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This is the type of stuff that worries the crap out of me on both sides of the argument. The issue of Iran possibly being able to create nuclear weapons sounds alarmingly like the weapons of mass destruction debate, which was supposedly one of the top reasons for starting a war that's now in it's 7th year. No doubt that both Dumbass Hussein and now Ahmanejahdilbadidad were/are crazy enough to pull that kind of shit off. But, is this something that the U.S. of A. needs to spearhead the fight against? Why is it that when this is something going on in Germany's back yard...and the front doorstep of all of Europe...why are we the ones perceived as the bad guy? Why is our fight when no one else seems to give a shit enough to do anything about it. Lord knows, our armed forces and guys right here on this board have been put through enough when it comes to seemingly fighting the battles no one else has the coconuts to take on.
Just my thoughts. Feel free to opine openly.
Israel Has Until Week's End to Strike Iran Nuclear Facility, Bolton Says
Published August 17, 2010
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In this November 2009 photo released by the semi-official Iranian Students News Agency (ISNA), the reactor building of Iran's Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant is seen. (AP Photo)
Israel has until the weekend to launch a military strike on Iran's first nuclear plant before the humanitarian risk of an attack becomes too great, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton said Tuesday.
A Russian company is expected to help Iran start loading nuclear fuel into its plant starting on Saturday, after which an attack on the Bushehr reactor could trigger harmful radiation, which Israel wants to avoid, Bolton said. So unless the Israelis act immediately to shut down the facility, it will be too late.
"Once it's close to the reactor ... the risk is when the reactor is attacked, there will be a release of radiation into the air," Bolton told FoxNews.com. "It's most unlikely that they would act militarily after fuel rods are loaded."
Earlier Tuesday, Bolton told Fox Business Network the Israelis will have to move in the "next eight days" if they want to attack the Bushehr facility -- a reference to the window between when the start-up was announced last week and the loading date. Bolton said Tuesday that the date has fluctuated, but he described the start-up as the ultimate deadline.
Though Iranian officials insist the reactor is for peaceful purposes, Bolton warned about the danger of the up-and-running reactor.
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Bolton, who was U.S. ambassador during the Bush administration, expressed doubt that Israel was planning a military strike but suggested it's an open question.
"If they were going to do anything, they certainly wouldn't be talking about it," he said.
He noted that the reactor gives Iran something that both Iraq and Syria were never able to achieve because their facilities were destroyed.
"Iran will have achieved something that no other opponent of Israel, no other enemy of the United States really in the Middle East has, and that is a functioning nuclear reactor," he said on Fox Business Network.
Iranian officials on Tuesday warned Israel not to take military action. Iranian media quoted Ahmad Vahidi, Iran's defense minister, as saying Israel would be taking a huge risk with such an attack.
"We may lose a power plant, but the whole existence of the Zionist regime will be jeopardized," Vahidi was quoted as saying.
The reactor project has been in existence for decades, but the Russians have helped push it to the finish line. Russian state firm Rosatom announced last week that the Bushehr facility would be starting up on Aug. 21. According to the Iranian state Mehr news agency, the head of that company, Sergey Novikov, says the plant "just generates electricity."
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All I know is that the US doesn't have the stones to do anything. I just hope we don't fuck over Israel when they defend themselves.
And it's not like MAD scares the Iranians. They nuke Israel and then get nuked, they don't care, they're with their 75 virgins.
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This is the type of stuff that worries the crap out of me on both sides of the argument. The issue of Iran possibly being able to create nuclear weapons sounds alarmingly like the weapons of mass destruction debate, which was supposedly one of the top reasons for starting a war that's now in it's 7th year. No doubt that both Dumbass Hussein and now Ahmanejahdilbadidad were/are crazy enough to pull that kind of poop off. But, is this something that the U.S. of A. needs to spearhead the fight against? Why is it that when this is something going on in Germany's back yard...and the front doorstep of all of Europe...why are we the ones perceived as the bad guy? Why is our fight when no one else seems to give a poop enough to do anything about it. Lord knows, our armed forces and guys right here on this board have been put through enough when it comes to seemingly fighting the battles no one else has the coconuts to take on.
Just my thoughts. Feel free to opine openly.
Israel Has Until Week's End to Strike Iran Nuclear Facility, Bolton Says
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Nuclear Arms proliferation is a constant threat to the civilized world. I've always had an issue with this kind of power in the hands of the criminally insane (please reference the pot-bellied dictator of North Korea). We did nothing and have done nothing to North Korea or Pakistan for distributing this kind of materiel and support to their friends. We did nothing to prevent them from getting it and even helped them during the Clinton years (remember Maddy Albright clinking champagne glasses with Kim Jong-il? I do.). The only success story is with Libya. They did dismantle their nuclear facility under the auspices of a UN threat (backed by the US of course). Do you think this will work with Iran? Maybe, but The ONE won't do anything now as this kind of power is put in the hands of the mad mullahs. The ONE loves the Muslim world, hell, I'm convinced now more than ever that he is a closet Muslim, so he will do nothing. That leaves NATO with making some kind of decision. Also, you can bet if Israel thinks they are threatened they will take action. It is not unprecedented; except this time they will not have our support.
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Nuclear Arms proliferation is a constant threat to the civilized world. I've always had an issue with this kind of power in the hands of the criminally insane (please reference the pot-bellied dictator of North Korea). We did nothing and have done nothing to North Korea or Pakistan for distributing this kind of materiel and support to their friends. We did nothing to prevent them from getting it and even helped them during the Clinton years (remember Maddy Albright clinking champagne glasses with Kim Jong-il? I do.). The only success story is with Libya. They did dismantle their nuclear facility under the auspices of a UN threat (backed by the US of course). Do you think this will work with Iran? Maybe, but The ONE won't do anything now as this kind of power is put in the hands of the mad mullahs. The ONE loves the Muslim world, hell, I'm convinced now more than ever that he is a closet Muslim, so he will do nothing. That leaves NATO with making some kind of decision. Also, you can bet if Israel thinks they are threatened they will take action. It is not unprecedented; except this time they will not have our support.
I'm all for eliminating any and all nuclear threats from the face of the earth. I just don't get why very few others around the world seem to share that concern or have the hairy hangers to jump in to do anything about it. Why is it up to the US to force N. Korea's hand? It's in S. Korea's lap and they don't seem to give two shits as long as the USA has troops right there to hold their hands and fight for them. Spain has been the victim of terrorism. Why don't you see any outcry from them on Iran's nuclear threat. France? (Don't answer that) Whenever Ahmdamiijahididad speaks, it's the U.S he condemns. Are we and a small handful of others the only ones that really give a flying fuck about nukes and terrorism? And the bigger concern for me is...do we have the manpower and will to see something through like a war with Korea or even Iran with what's been happening over the last two decades? I may be wrong, but with so many troops committed to Iraq and Afghanistan and the unwillingness of our leaders to let our soldiers fight the way they know how, the way you fight to win, I don't see the ability to lead the charge against these threats.
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I'm all for eliminating any and all nuclear threats from the face of the earth. I just don't get why very few others around the world seem to share that concern or have the hairy hangers to jump in to do anything about it. Why is it up to the US to force N. Korea's hand? It's in S. Korea's lap and they don't seem to give two shits as long as the USA has troops right there to hold their hands and fight for them. Spain has been the victim of terrorism. Why don't you see any outcry from them on Iran's nuclear threat. France? (Don't answer that) Whenever Ahmdamiijahididad speaks, it's the U.S he condemns. Are we and a small handful of others the only ones that really give a flying fuck about nukes and terrorism? And the bigger concern for me is...do we have the manpower and will to see something through like a war with Korea or even Iran with what's been happening over the last two decades? I may be wrong, but with so many troops committed to Iraq and Afghanistan and the unwillingness of our leaders to let our soldiers fight the way they know how, the way you fight to win, I don't see the ability to lead the charge against these threats.
You make a great point...Ive always thought this.
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the unwillingness of our leaders to let our soldiers fight the way they know how, the way you fight to win, I don't see the ability to lead the charge against these threats.
This.
I'm a grunt at heart, and believe that the function of our military is one of two things. Kill people and break things. And we do both of those very well.
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Let me clarify something. My perspective does not come from a military background. I have family members who have served multiple tours during all this and know several of you on here who have also in the Midle East and other places around the world. I have never served and don't even pretend to know what your service or your experiences are and have been all about. Seriously, God bless you and I raise a glass of fine bourbon (And a splash of coke) in toasting you. I think I'm looking as much for that perspective, from those who are and have served on whether it should be us that seem to be the world's police force. Why don't more countries get involved in serious issues like Nukes and terrorism. And as I stated before, is our military in a position at this time to take on something like Iran and/or N. Korea?
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The only success story is with Libya. They did dismantle their nuclear facility under the auspices of a UN threat (backed by the US of course).
Amazing how much of an attitude change will take place when a few well placed cruise missiles come down your chimney, kill your kids and concubines. He was also the first world leader to call the US on 9/11 to say "that he had nothing to do with the attacks", he started the dismantling a few months later. Right after Saddam was found I do believe.
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Amazing how much of an attitude change will take place when a few well placed cruise missiles come down your chimney, kill your kids and concubines. He was also the first world leader to call the US on 9/11 to say "that he had nothing to do with the attacks", he started the dismantling a few months later. Right after Saddam was found I do believe.
And I think part of that is b/c we had a leader who wouldn't take shit from anyone.
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And I think part of that is b/c we had a leader who wouldn't take poop from anyone.
Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner!
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And I think part of that is b/c we had a leader who wouldn't take shit from anyone.
Reagan wore him down...Bush finished him off?
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The only thing I can say is we best stay buddies with that little speck of a country called Israel. If Iran seriously fucks with them, Israel will open up like a canned good with millions and millions of stockpiled weaponry and blow the hell outta Aslambidadildoamigo.
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This.
I'm a grunt at heart, and believe that the function of our military is one of two things. Kill people and break things. And we do both of those very well, when allowed to do so.
FTFY.
OoohRah
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And I think part of that is b/c we had a leader who wouldn't take shit from anyone.
Are you talking about Dick Chenney or the full blown retard?
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Are you talking about Dick Chenney or the full blown retard?
My first thought was neither....but more Reagan from his battles with him in the 80's and the Lockerbie shit.
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It was Reagan that dropped a cruise missile or two down his chimney. Gaddafi hasn't given us any shit since. That is what I was referring to.
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It was Reagan that dropped a cruise missile or two down his chimney. Gaddafi hasn't given us any poop since. That is what I was referring to.
As was I.
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As was I
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fuck yeah....Reagan had teh testes satchel...
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It was Reagan that dropped a cruise missile or two down his chimney. Gaddafi hasn't given us any poop since. That is what I was referring to.
As was I.
As was I
phuk yeah....Reagan had teh testes satchel...
So Say We All!
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So Say We All!
See, I knew you were ok from day one when I saw you were a UNC fan.....
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See, I knew you were ok from day one when I saw you were a UNC fan.....
And I'm old enough to have actually voted for Reagan.
Requiescat in pace, et lux aeterna dona est, domine.
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Fucking Heels pollutin' up the board again. :)
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Fucking Heels pollutin' up the board again. :)
UNC has always been a fav of mine behind AU. Hate them Dookies.
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phuking Heels pollutin' up the board again. :)
:)
"You SIR, have the hygiene of an overly ripe avocado and the speaking habits of a vaguely deranged chess set. I find your manner to be unctuous and possibly libelous, and whatever standard you set for orthodontia care, it's not one I care for. Your choice in news sources are semi-literate at best and I do believe your favourite news anchor writes erotic literature for university mascots. While I'm not one to point out so obvious a failing, there has been rumour that the brunches you host every other Sunday are made with too much lard and cilantro. There is something to be said about your choice of motor-car fuel, but it is not urbane and if I were to repeat it, mothers would cover their children's ears and perhaps not a few longshoremen within earshot would blush."
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Don't get that shit started up'n herah. DOOOOOOOKIEEEESSS
Although I have to admit, that was probably the weakest national championship club I've seen evah. Happy they won but come on. D1 ball was teh suxed this year.
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UNC has always been a fav of mine behind AU. Hate them Dookies.
We're going to get along just fine.
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We're going to get along just fine.
Go Heels... :vn:
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You two get a room!
On a side note, I have it on good authority that Coach K abuses puppies and kills kittens.
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I say we show them just how powerful a Nuke really is. That should set them back a century or two
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Don't get that poop started up'n herah. DOOOOOOOKIEEEESSS
Although I have to admit, that was probably the weakest national championship club I've seen evah. Happy they won but come on. D1 ball was teh suxed this year.
The whole season teh sucked for the Tarheels. If I hadn't been distracted by so much work I would have been on Suicide Watch.
The only two high-lights of last season I enjoyed were the Tarheels beating Michigan again and Auburn beating Alabama.
You two get a room!
On a side note, I have it on good authority that Coach K abuses puppies and kills kittens.
Don't be gay for Coach K.
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I say we show them just how powerful a Nuke really is. That should set them back a century or two
Yes. What say I? Nuke Abajamadidmysisterjihad and improve the entire damn neighborhood.
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Yes. What say I? Nuke Abajamadidmysisterjihad and improve the entire damn neighborhood.
CALL OFF the bombings! We have nothing to worry about. The nuclear reactor is for peaceful purposes and they are planning to build 10 to 20 more for peaceful purposes. Nothing to see here. The Iranian Supreme Leadership has spoken:
Iran's atomic chief said the country had no alternative than resisting world powers in the dispute over its nuclear programs, the ISNA news agency reported earlier Wednesday.
"Today, our only option in the nuclear dispute is resistance, and if we do resist, then the opposition against our nuclear programs will collapse," Ali-Akbar Salehi predicted.
Using nuclear power to generate energy would also generate economic benefits because no fossil fuels are necessary, he said.
Iran has insisted that all its nuclear projects are solely for peaceful purposes and rejected Western charges that it is working on a secret military program.
Tehran rejected all past demands to suspend its uranium enrichment, saying it is its legitimate right to pursue nuclear technology.
"We have so far succeeded to resist all political pressures, and the more they pressure us, the more we accelerate the speed of our programs," Salehi said.
Iran's first nuclear power plant, which was built by Russia, is to be opened Saturday in the southern Gulf port of Bushehr. The 1,000-megawatt reactor is to become fully operational within six to seven months.
"There are 1,000 Iranian experts in Bushehr who will take charge of the plant from the Russians as soon as the guarantee phase is over," Salehi said.
He also said "more happy news" about Iran's nuclear achievements would be announced in the coming days.
Iran plans to build 10 to 20 nuclear power plants and enrichment sites in the coming years with the final aim to produce enough nuclear fuel to cover its electricity needs.
Iran currently operates one uranium conversion and one enrichment site. A second enrichment plant is under construction.
According to Salehi, construction of a third enrichment site is to start by March.
Source:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/iran-s-supreme-leader-no-nuclear-talks-with-u-s-until-sanctions-lifted-1.308783 (http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/iran-s-supreme-leader-no-nuclear-talks-with-u-s-until-sanctions-lifted-1.308783)
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You two get a room!
On a side note, I have it on good authority that Coach K abuses puppies and kills kittens.
Well, if they had played defense like he taught them to play it, this wouldn't be happening.
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It worked to end WWII but more people worry about the fall out and emotional toll than winning a damn war. Sometimes humans think too damn much....
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Don't be gay for Coach K.
Coach K loves teh gays.
Signed,
Christian Leitner.
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Coach K loves teh gays.
Signed,
Christian Leitner.
Screw you. He loves me and me only even with all of my freak injuries.
Signed,
Grant Hill
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I love you Grant!
Signed,
:fag:
Christian Leitner
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I love you all.
Signed,
Bobby Hurley
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I hate you all.
Signed,
Rick Pitino and Jamal Mashburn
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Keep hatin' on the Dookies. Coach K will just keep hangin' more banners. BTW, love the powder blue uni's. My neighbor and his friend have a Dodge Intrepid the same color.
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Keep hatin' on the Dookies. Coach K will just keep hangin' more banners. BTW, love the powder blue uni's. My neighbor and his friend have a Dodge Intrepid the same color.
I'm just going to sit down and shut up. After last season I've got no bragging rights other than saying when Carolina has a 'building year' it really is a building year not an excuse for continued bad performance.
By the way it's called "Carolina Blue" (I understand you infidels not being able to get that right)...NOT powder blue...powder blue is teh ghey.
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I'm just going to sit down and shut up. After last season I've got no bragging rights other than saying when Carolina has a 'building year' it really is a building year not an excuse for continued bad performance.
By the way it's called "Carolina Blue" (I understand you infidels not being able to get that right)...NOT powder blue...powder blue is teh ghey.
This man knows....Caroline Blue! I have a UNC Basketball Shirt I wear when I visit NC that is completely Carolina Blue with white writing. Love it.
Remember- Duke had a building year last year! And look what happened this year. Kent, Duke and UNC reload and adjust - every year. When Kentucky has a good coach anyway.
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I'm just going to sit down and shut up. After last season I've got no bragging rights other than saying when Carolina has a 'building year' it really is a building year not an excuse for continued bad performance.
By the way it's called "Carolina Blue" (I understand you infidels not being able to get that right)...NOT powder blue...powder blue is teh ghey.
Spot on...with the powder blue. :)
Quick story on the powder blue. I said that because on my 17th birthday, my dad bought me a car. The man bought me a car. Thrilled, right? I couldn't believe he did that until I walked outside, only to find....a powder blue Chevrolet Chevette. Are...you....fuckin'...kidding ...me? Total sticker price, brand new..$3,800.00. No air..but a kickin' vent. Plus, an A/M radio that actually worked. Did I mention it was baby blue? I don't care how hard you try, you can't rub that shit out.
Like I said earlier, when the national championship is between Butler and a bunch of 6'7" white boys, we're not talking clash of the titans here.
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I'm just going to sit down and shut up. After last season I've got no bragging rights other than saying when Carolina has a 'building year' it really is a building year not an excuse for continued bad performance.
By the way it's called "Carolina Blue" (I understand you infidels not being able to get that right)...NOT powder blue...powder blue is teh ghey.
It is definitely Carolina Blue.
I still can't figure out why they have a goat for a mascot though?
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Spot on...with the powder blue. :)
Quick story on the powder blue. I said that because on my 17th birthday, my dad bought me a car. The man bought me a car. Thrilled, right? I couldn't believe he did that until I walked outside, only to find....a powder blue Chevrolet Chevette. Are...you....phukin'...kidding ...me? Total sticker price, brand new..$3,800.00. No air..but a kickin' vent. Plus, an A/M radio that actually worked. Did I mention it was baby blue? I don't care how hard you try, you can't rub that poop out.
Like I said earlier, when the national championship is between Butler and a bunch of 6'7" white boys, we're not talking clash of the titans here.
Good times! That IS a few steps below my gold (with black vinyl interior) 1975 Mustang Ghia. You can't hide money.
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It is definitely Carolina Blue.
I still can't figure out why they have a goat for a mascot though?
Rameses is a Ram. A Ram. Not a goat.
Not nearly as great a story as the War Eagle but it is what it is...
For nearly 70 years the mascot of North Carolina's football team has been a ram. Since Carolina's nickname is Tar Heels, it might seem strange to have a ram as a mascot. It is. But, there is a good explanation. It's offered by Vic Huggins, Carolina's head cheerleader back in 1924.
"In 1924 school spirit was at a peak," Huggins once explained. "But something seemed to be missing. One day it hit me. State had a wolf. What Carolina needed was a symbol."
Two years earlier the Tar Heels had posted a brilliant 9-1 record. The star of that 1922 team was a bruising fullback named Jack Merritt. Merritt was nicknamed "the battering ram" for the way he plunged into lines. It seemed natural to Huggins to link a mascot with Merritt's unusual sobriquet.
"Charlie Woollen, the athletic business manager at that time, agreed with the idea and gave us $25 to purchase a fitting mascot," said Huggins.
Rameses the First was shipped in from Texas, arriving just in time to be introduced at a pep rally before the VMI game. Complete with a monogram blanket on his back, Rameses helped make the pep rally one of the school's greatest.
Then the ram was taken to Emerson Field where Carolina was an underdog to a strong VMI team. But, for three quarters the Tar Heels battled the visitors to a scoreless tie.
Late in the fourth period Carolina's Bunn Hackney was called upon to attempt a field goal. Before taking the field he stopped to rub Rameses' head for good luck.
Seconds later Hackney's 30-yard dropkick sailed between the goalposts, giving the Tar Heels a 3-0 victory and a legendary mascot.
Tar Heels rams have traveled everywhere from New York City (for the Carolina-Notre Dame game in 1949) to Jacksonville for Carolina's Gator Bowl appearances.
The story of the name Tar Heel is much better but we'll save that for another time and place.
http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/trads/unc-trads-mascot.html (http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/trads/unc-trads-mascot.html)
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The story of the name Tar Heel is much better but we'll save that for another time and place.
So I never knew why they were called Tarheels, and had to go google. Great mascot name. That's why I love college sports.