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Wednesday, 28 July 2010 00:19 Ben Dial .User Rating: / 31
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The Ole Miss Rebels are finding out what Houston Nutt justice is all about. The Rebel general may be known as the “Right Reverend,” but a closer look at history presents a different persona. The fact is that he resembles more that of a smarmy TV evangelist than a real holy man. Houston Nutt has a long history of preaching right and wrong, but that history is also blemished with actions based on self-preservation rather than moral fortitude. Ole Miss fans are following their newfound leader of glory, but Houston Nutt is still in first-class Robert Tilton form.
The reports coming out of Oxford seem to indicate that Jeremiah Masoli, the former Oregon Duck quarterback, will be a member of the Rebels on the 2010 depth chart. Obviously, for a team with only two scholarship quarterbacks on roster, a legit dual threat quarterback that led his squad to a Rose Bowl is an intriguing prospect. He already has his undergraduate degree and would not have to sit out a year if he transfers to a school and is accepted by a graduate program that is not offered at the University of Oregon. Masoli is a perfect fit for the Wild Rebel offense and could answer stinging questions that could keep Ole Miss from being a competitive team in the SEC this year. In fact, Masoli’s previous two seasons at Oregon were so strong, he was among the favorite preseason candidates for the Heisman trophy.
There is only one problem. Masoli is a repeat criminal and won’t be suiting up in the Oregon green and yellow for his last collegiate year because he was caught with pot after a traffic stop. Oh, and he was driving on a suspended license. Oh, and this comes after he was arrested and pleaded guilty to stealing computers from a frat house. Oh, and all of this is after serving some time in juvenile detention after a string of armed robberies when he was in high school. It would certainly appear that Jeremiah Masoli used up his three strikes and a few of his teammates’. Oregon Coach Chip Kelly made the only decision he could make and gave Masoli the boot.
Someone is going to take a chance on Jeremiah Masoli, and it is looking more and more like Houston Nutt. But if Houston Nutt and Ole Miss accept this habitual criminal, then the message he sends to further recruits is quite clear- “If you are a star player necessary for the success of our team, the rules do not apply.” A week ago, Houston Nutt announced they were not interested in Jeremiah Masoli. What changed?
Redshirt freshman quarterback Raymond Cotton is transferring out of Ole Miss this week. That’s what changed. And people shouldn’t find fault in Cotton wanting out. Houston Nutt develops quarterbacks like Fidel Castro develops civil liberties. But with Cotton no longer a part of the quarterback depth chart, all of a sudden, Masoli ’s checkered past isn’t quite as checkered for the Right Reverend, and Ole Miss is reportedly leaning toward bringing him aboard.
Right now, somewhere on a couch, Pat Patterson is thinking in text language (Houston Nutt’s favorite medium to communicate), “WTH?” Earlier this month, Pat Patterson was dismissed from the Rebel football team for violating team rules. The specific team rules that were broken has not been made public knowledge, but it can’t be as bad as theft or armed robbery. Dismissing a sophomore for violating team rules only to consider bringing in a player with Masoli’s past for one year in an effort to save a season is beyond hypocritical.
Make no mistake. Dismissing Pat Patterson is another chapter in Nutt justice. Patterson is a wide receiver, an unnecessary commodity for a Houston Nutt football team. Wide receivers in a Houston Nutt offense should really be called offensive DB’s-“downfield blockers” or perhaps “decoy boys.” Nutt’s history of treating star players at positions that he actually uses and develops is entirely different.
This is not new territory for Houston Nutt. When he was the head Hog at the University of Arkansas, star players such as Kenny Hamlin and Cedric Cobbs found themselves in the middle of legal trouble. For Hamlin, it was multiple DWI’s. For Cobbs, a possible Heisman candidate at the time, it was a DWI involving marijuana. Neither player was suspended for a single game. In 2004, Jimarr Gallon and Sam Olajubutu were arrested within a week’s time for essentially the same offense. Gallon, a senior role player, was dismissed from the team. Olajubutu, a rising SEC star as a sophomore, was suspended for a single game.
Masoli fits the bill for accepted criminal behavior because he can make an impact on the field and because of the loss of Raymond Cotton due to transfer. Unfortunately for Pat Patterson, he plays the wrong position for Houston Nutt to care, and the Right Reverend feels that he can make a statement by dismissing a highly regarded talent off the team.
Perhaps Houston Nutt will do some soul searching of his own during the Masoli decision in the upcoming days. Perhaps a personal revival will lead him to conduct his own actions to match those of his preached words. Somehow, it seems doubtful.
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KAPOW.
I'd say that would leave a mark, but Nutt is too fucking crazee to even feel it.
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Wednesday, 28 July 2010 00:19 Ben Dial .User Rating: / 31
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The Ole Miss Rebels are finding out what Houston Nutt justice is all about. The Rebel general may be known as the “Right Reverend,” but a closer look at history presents a different persona. The fact is that he resembles more that of a smarmy TV evangelist than a real holy man. Houston Nutt has a long history of preaching right and wrong, but that history is also blemished with actions based on self-preservation rather than moral fortitude. Ole Miss fans are following their newfound leader of glory, but Houston Nutt is still in first-class Robert Tilton form.
The reports coming out of Oxford seem to indicate that Jeremiah Masoli, the former Oregon Duck quarterback, will be a member of the Rebels on the 2010 depth chart. Obviously, for a team with only two scholarship quarterbacks on roster, a legit dual threat quarterback that led his squad to a Rose Bowl is an intriguing prospect. He already has his undergraduate degree and would not have to sit out a year if he transfers to a school and is accepted by a graduate program that is not offered at the University of Oregon. Masoli is a perfect fit for the Wild Rebel offense and could answer stinging questions that could keep Ole Miss from being a competitive team in the SEC this year. In fact, Masoli’s previous two seasons at Oregon were so strong, he was among the favorite preseason candidates for the Heisman trophy.
There is only one problem. Masoli is a repeat criminal and won’t be suiting up in the Oregon green and yellow for his last collegiate year because he was caught with pot after a traffic stop. Oh, and he was driving on a suspended license. Oh, and this comes after he was arrested and pleaded guilty to stealing computers from a frat house. Oh, and all of this is after serving some time in juvenile detention after a string of armed robberies when he was in high school. It would certainly appear that Jeremiah Masoli used up his three strikes and a few of his teammates’. Oregon Coach Chip Kelly made the only decision he could make and gave Masoli the boot.
Someone is going to take a chance on Jeremiah Masoli, and it is looking more and more like Houston Nutt. But if Houston Nutt and Ole Miss accept this habitual criminal, then the message he sends to further recruits is quite clear- “If you are a star player necessary for the success of our team, the rules do not apply.” A week ago, Houston Nutt announced they were not interested in Jeremiah Masoli. What changed?
Redshirt freshman quarterback Raymond Cotton is transferring out of Ole Miss this week. That’s what changed. And people shouldn’t find fault in Cotton wanting out. Houston Nutt develops quarterbacks like Fidel Castro develops civil liberties. But with Cotton no longer a part of the quarterback depth chart, all of a sudden, Masoli ’s checkered past isn’t quite as checkered for the Right Reverend, and Ole Miss is reportedly leaning toward bringing him aboard.
Right now, somewhere on a couch, Pat Patterson is thinking in text language (Houston Nutt’s favorite medium to communicate), “WTH?” Earlier this month, Pat Patterson was dismissed from the Rebel football team for violating team rules. The specific team rules that were broken has not been made public knowledge, but it can’t be as bad as theft or armed robbery. Dismissing a sophomore for violating team rules only to consider bringing in a player with Masoli’s past for one year in an effort to save a season is beyond hypocritical.
Make no mistake. Dismissing Pat Patterson is another chapter in Nutt justice. Patterson is a wide receiver, an unnecessary commodity for a Houston Nutt football team. Wide receivers in a Houston Nutt offense should really be called offensive DB’s-“downfield blockers” or perhaps “decoy boys.” Nutt’s history of treating star players at positions that he actually uses and develops is entirely different.
This is not new territory for Houston Nutt. When he was the head Hog at the University of Arkansas, star players such as Kenny Hamlin and Cedric Cobbs found themselves in the middle of legal trouble. For Hamlin, it was multiple DWI’s. For Cobbs, a possible Heisman candidate at the time, it was a DWI involving marijuana. Neither player was suspended for a single game. In 2004, Jimarr Gallon and Sam Olajubutu were arrested within a week’s time for essentially the same offense. Gallon, a senior role player, was dismissed from the team. Olajubutu, a rising SEC star as a sophomore, was suspended for a single game.
Masoli fits the bill for accepted criminal behavior because he can make an impact on the field and because of the loss of Raymond Cotton due to transfer. Unfortunately for Pat Patterson, he plays the wrong position for Houston Nutt to care, and the Right Reverend feels that he can make a statement by dismissing a highly regarded talent off the team.
Perhaps Houston Nutt will do some soul searching of his own during the Masoli decision in the upcoming days. Perhaps a personal revival will lead him to conduct his own actions to match those of his preached words. Somehow, it seems doubtful.
NUt knows the meaning of "What have you done for me lately?"
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good thing you have a nice upstanding coach now who wins more games, recruits better and doesn't walk out on his players in the middle of the night to go where the grass is greener.....
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good thing you have a nice upstanding coach now who wins more games, recruits better and doesn't walk out on his players in the middle of the night to go where the grass is greener.....
POW!!
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good thing you have a nice upstanding coach now who wins more games, recruits better and doesn't walk out on his players in the middle of the night to go where the grass is greener.....
That may chafe.
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good thing you have a nice upstanding coach now who wins more games, recruits better and doesn't walk out on his players in the middle of the night to go where the grass is greener.....
well played!
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good thing you have a nice upstanding coach now who wins more games, recruits better and doesn't walk out on his players in the middle of the night to go where the grass is greener.....
The italicized portion is the only valid knock on Petrino.
Nothing Petrino has ever done, however, has been egregious as some of the shit Nutt has pulled.
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The italicized portion is the only valid knock on Petrino.
Nothing Petrino has ever done, however, has been egregious as some of the poop Nutt has pulled.
Nutt won 9 and 8 games (17-7) in his first 2 years at Arky in 1998 and 1999 with substantially less talent left for him by Danny Ford who went 26-30 the previous 5 years (93,94,95,96,97), than what Petrino inherited 2 years ago and he has won 13 games (13-12). Just saying...
Nutt on average has also recruited better although that is more subjective than the aforementioned statement.
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The italicized portion is the only valid knock on Petrino.
Nothing Petrino has ever done, however, has been egregious as some of the shit Nutt has pulled.
For instance?
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The italicized portion is the only valid knock on Petrino.
Nothing Petrino has ever done, however, has been egregious as some of the shit Nutt has pulled.
Nutt won 9 and 8 games (17-7) in his first 2 years at Arky in 1998 and 1999 with substantially less talent left for him by Danny Ford who went 26-30 the previous 5 years (93,94,95,96,97), than what Petrino inherited 2 years ago and he has won 13 games (13-12). Just saying...
Nutt on average has also recruited better although that is more subjective than the aforementioned statement.
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Nutt won 9 and 8 games (17-7) in his first 2 years at Arky in 1998 and 1999 with substantially less talent left for him by Danny Ford who went 26-30 the previous 5 years (93,94,95,96,97), than what Petrino inherited 2 years ago and he has won 13 games (13-12). Just saying...
Nutt on average has also recruited better although that is more subjective than the aforementioned statement.
This analysis in a vacuum is worthless.
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Who cares?
Nutt is a piece of shit always has been.
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Nutt is a piece of shit always has been.
Eloquent in its simplicity. I salute you, sir.
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This analysis in a vacuum is worthless.
Its as close to apples and apples as you can get given the information and common ground for these 2. I've provided a case for Nutt. Do you care to provide a concrete argument for Petrino that isn't apples and oranges? Or just admit you personally don't like him?
BTW - I don't really care for Nutt personally but I won't question his record or coaching ability. He does a lot with little. That is something that he has proven time and time again. These things are mutually exclusive of him dancing around the sidelines like a monkey on viagra.
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Ever notice how titz gets these Nutt/Petrino arguments going? And we fall for it everytime.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d4mVHDtkK4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d4mVHDtkK4#)
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Dirty Donna
Don't Bragg.
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Nutt won 9 and 8 games (17-7) in his first 2 years at Arky in 1998 and 1999 with substantially less talent left for him by Danny Ford who went 26-30 the previous 5 years (93,94,95,96,97), than what Petrino inherited 2 years ago and he has won 13 games (13-12). Just saying...
Nutt on average has also recruited better although that is more subjective than the aforementioned statement.
You really should do your homework on the talent left to Nutt by Danny Ford and the lack of talent left to Petrino by Nutt. As an Arkansas fan I know you are monumentally incorrect but will refrain from calling you stupid, you are just uniformed. I would also like to point out that most people don't call giving up nearly $2 Million a year to go back to college as greener pastures from a financial standpoint (I will agree that moving from Atlanta to Fayetteville is moving to greener pastures). Also while recruiting a bunch of 4* athletes looks good on paper for Nutt, look at the re-ranking of classes from 2003, 2004, and 2005 for Louisville to see how well Petrino really recruits since the on-field production is what really counts.
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You really should do your homework on the talent left to Nutt by Danny Ford and the lack of talent left to Petrino by Nutt. As an Arkansas fan I know you are monumentally incorrect but will refrain from calling you stupid, you are just uniformed. I would also like to point out that most people don't call giving up nearly $2 Million a year to go back to college as greener pastures from a financial standpoint (I will agree that moving from Atlanta to Fayetteville is moving to greener pastures). Also while recruiting a bunch of 4* athletes looks good on paper for Nutt, look at the re-ranking of classes from 2003, 2004, and 2005 for Louisville to see how well Petrino really recruits since the on-field production is what really counts.
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Welcome...post often.
Paging Jumbo!!!
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Its as close to apples and apples as you can get given the information and common ground for these 2. I've provided a case for Nutt. Do you care to provide a concrete argument for Petrino that isn't apples and oranges? Or just admit you personally don't like him?
I'm not in a number crunching mood this afternoon. My comment above was remarking that you can't judge Ws and Ls without taking into account the teams on the other side of the column. The SEC of 98-00 was strong...but not nearly as strong as the SEC of 07-09. That's not the sum total of my argument that Petrino is twice the coach Nutt wishes he was, rather a knee-jerk counter to your comparison of the first two years of each coach's tenure.
I don't like Nutt, admittedly, but he's not a good coach. At all. He's a worse person, but he's a very poor coach.
For instance?
How do you feel about a head coach, his brother/asst coach, and a fat lesbian hanger-on threatening Mustain's mother and harassing the kid until he transferred? The offense that Mustain committed to deserve this treatment: he call the Right Reverend a "dork" in an offhand remark that someone included in a book. What about an extra-marital affair carried on at times Nutt was supposedly engaged in charity work?
Titz and RCH can probably recite these things, chapter and verse, to you. Nutt is a shitstain.
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Ever notice how titz gets these Nutt/Petrino arguments going? And we fall for it everytime.
I missed the part about Petrino in the OP.
Did you know that Nutt slunk off from Arkansas in the middle of the night to go to OSU? I heard that Lou Holtz called him a dumas and it hurt his feelings.
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This kid takes after Nutt.
http://friendsoftheprogram.net/2010/07/28/bryce-brown-gets-textual/ (http://friendsoftheprogram.net/2010/07/28/bryce-brown-gets-textual/)
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You really should do your homework on the talent left to Nutt by Danny Ford and the lack of talent left to Petrino by Nutt. As an Arkansas fan I know you are monumentally incorrect but will refrain from calling you stupid, you are just uniformed. I would also like to point out that most people don't call giving up nearly $2 Million a year to go back to college as greener pastures from a financial standpoint (I will agree that moving from Atlanta to Fayetteville is moving to greener pastures). Also while recruiting a bunch of 4* athletes looks good on paper for Nutt, look at the re-ranking of classes from 2003, 2004, and 2005 for Louisville to see how well Petrino really recruits since the on-field production is what really counts.
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Yeah, all that 26-30 talent he left him. Nice try fuck face. Danny Ford was under an NCAA eagle eye from his Clemson days on and didn't get anywhere near the talent he reeled in at CU. Danny Ford was NOT a bad coach by any means, which shows even more so the talent was lacking. If you go with the argument that the talent was not lacking, just for argument's sake, then you are saying Nutt and Ford had the same crop of talent/players for a couple of years although Nutt's record was light years ahead of Ford's at Arky. Could that be implying that Nutt is not a bad coach and possibly a better coach than Ford - who has a NC at Clemson? No way. Way.
Good to see you like comparing Apples and Oranges with Arky and Louisville. Going to Fayetteville from Atlanta is not greener pastures in a general sense. It was at the time because Atlanta was in turmoil. And please refrain from calling someone on here stupid. You are an Arky - remember that. Your program had been in ruins since Broyles stepped down until Nutt came along. The guy exceeded all of your historical averages and you guys start acting like your fucking Notre Dame all of a sudden. We can post stats if you would like to. The same stats that shut titz up about a month ago. Yeah, they hurt.
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Your program had been in ruins since Broyles stepped down until Nutt came along. The guy exceeded all of your historical averages and you guys start acting like your phuking Notre Dame all of a sudden. We can post stats if you would like to. The same stats that shut titz up about a month ago. Yeah, they hurt.
I usually stay out of these b/c of my hatred of Dale, and I think he is a shitty coach as well.....but
Fuck you
Signed,
Ken Hatfiled and Lou Holtz.
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The same stats that shut titz up about a month ago. Yeah, they hurt.
I just got tired of beating my head against the wall about the same ole same ole.
Yall are statistically better than us, you just can't whip our asses on the field like your statistics show you should.
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I usually stay out of these b/c of my hatred of Dale, and I think he is a shitty coach as well.....but
Fuck you
Signed,
Ken Hatfiled and Lou Holtz.
Holtz was there 7 years. And you are right, while it wasnt in ruins as far as wins - there was a ton of political BS between Holtz and Broyles and the fans. Or else he would have been there more than 7 years and we probably wouldn't even be having these discussions.
Disclaimer: I think Nutt is a nut personally. I just don't think he is a terrible coach. He was par or better than par for the course where he was.
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I just got tired of beating my head against the wall about the same ole same ole.
Yall are statistically better than us, you just can't whip our asses on the field like your statistics show you should.
Just poking the stick at you titz. Its all good.
Thanks Tubs for our Arky complex. With Gus here, it may continue.
Before Tubs:
5-2-1 against Arky with an avg score of 26-19
During Tubs:
5-6 against Arky with an avg score of 19-26 (ironically the same score but reversed)
You guys should be writing him nice letters. HA!
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Yeah, all that 26-30 talent he left him. Nice try phuk face. Danny Ford was under an NCAA eagle eye from his Clemson days on and didn't get anywhere near the talent he reeled in at CU. Danny Ford was NOT a bad coach by any means, which shows even more so the talent was lacking. If you go with the argument that the talent was not lacking, just for argument's sake, then you are saying Nutt and Ford had the same crop of talent/players for a couple of years although Nutt's record was light years ahead of Ford's at Arky. Could that be implying that Nutt is not a bad coach and possibly a better coach than Ford - who has a NC at Clemson? No way. Way.
Good to see you like comparing Apples and Oranges with Arky and Louisville. Going to Fayetteville from Atlanta is not greener pastures in a general sense. It was at the time because Atlanta was in turmoil. And please refrain from calling someone on here stupid. You are an Arky - remember that. Your program had been in ruins since Broyles stepped down until Nutt came along. The guy exceeded all of your historical averages and you guys start acting like your phuking Notre Dame all of a sudden. We can post stats if you would like to. The same stats that shut titz up about a month ago. Yeah, they hurt.
Way to have a civil discussion. I get called Fuck Face while the worst that I called you was uninformed (specifically about the Arkansas program). When Ford was at Arkansas he was about as interested in coaching as you are in listening to factual information from some more familiar with the Arkansas program and the history of HDN.
The fact is that HDN's first two years. both at Ole Miss and Arkansas, were improvements over the previous coaches records. If you did some research it would reveal at both places the majority of the talent was in the Jr. and Sr. classes when HDN took over meaning that Ford was playing in the SEC his last two years with talented Fr. and Sophs. That allowed him to mix his special brand of Rah-Rah coaching with talent acquired from the previous coach and post good but not great seasons. Ford said his greatest regret at Arkansas was not getting to coach the team in 1997-1998 when he knew the talent was there.
You also seem confused about Ford at Clemson. Was he a poor/good coach that cheated to get great talent at Clemson or was he a good/great coach that just couldn't get the talent at Arkansas?
Also while you are at it could you explain the apples and oranges thing to me when I only mentioned Louisville and the re-ranking of classes. It is a fact that UL classes that were ranked between 40-60 at the time were re-ranked 4 years later in the 10-15 range or better. Research would show that HDN's classes show the opposite trend.
As for the Arky and stupid comment, I assumed it would be beneath an Aubie to post that. I live in Alabama, so I have knowledge of both places, and if you think there is that much difference then once again you are uninformed
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Way to have a civil discussion. I get called Fuck Face while the worst that I called you was uninformed (specifically about the Arkansas program). When Ford was at Arkansas he was about as interested in coaching as you are in listening to factual information from some more familiar with the Arkansas program and the history of HDN.
The fact is that HDN's first two years. both at Ole Miss and Arkansas, were improvements over the previous coaches records. If you did some research it would reveal at both places the majority of the talent was in the Jr. and Sr. classes when HDN took over meaning that Ford was playing in the SEC his last two years with talented Fr. and Sophs. That allowed him to mix his special brand of Rah-Rah coaching with talent acquired from the previous coach and post good but not great seasons. Ford said his greatest regret at Arkansas was not getting to coach the team in 1997-1998 when he knew the talent was there.
You also seem confused about Ford at Clemson. Was he a poor/good coach that cheated to get great talent at Clemson or was he a good/great coach that just couldn't get the talent at Arkansas?
Also while you are at it could you explain the apples and oranges thing to me when I only mentioned Louisville and the re-ranking of classes. It is a fact that UL classes that were ranked between 40-60 at the time were re-ranked 4 years later in the 10-15 range or better. Research would show that HDN's classes show the opposite trend.
As for the Arky and stupid comment, I assumed it would be beneath an Aubie to post that. I live in Alabama, so I have knowledge of both places, and if you think there is that much difference then once again you are uninformed
Civil is no way to have a discussion about FB on this board. :bar: Ok...I will go the civil route here since, as in titz' words, the end result will be nothing but banging our heads on the wall. And at the end of the day, we still don't agree and we have a bad headache in addition.
Like I told titz, its all good RCH. Take most things you would normally consider 'offensive' as normal spirited debate and tongue in cheek at worst. Unless it involves Birmingham.
Its just obvious people view HDN is different lights. And thats fine. I'm just not gonna call a coach that normally wins 8-9 games a year a bad coach when he is at a place that has not even averaged that number in their recent history. Especially after the move to the SEC. I think Petrino is a great technical coach actually. Choosing between him and HDN would just depend on what you are looking for I guess. Some of it may be that HDN blew our doors off more times than not (see my stat above concerning Tubs) and it may have left an impression.
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Just watch what Nutt is doing at Ole Miss. History will repeat itself. He has peaked out already.
Have yall been following the Cotton leaving/Masoli deal? He's on the verge of fucking up the whole team's psyche.
And the fans are in favor of this move. Hell I thought Nutt was a pretty good coach after his 2nd year here. Familiarity breeds comtempt.
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Just watch what Nutt is doing at Ole Miss. History will repeat itself. He has peaked out already.
Have yall been following the Cotton leaving/Masoli deal? He's on the verge of fucking up the whole team's psyche.
And the fans are in favor of this move. Hell I thought Nutt was a pretty good coach after his 2nd year here. Familiarity breeds comtempt.
I think it's human nature to dismiss the recent victims of his fuckedupedness.
How many AR fans initially believed the Boise State player that called Nutt a "used car salesman"?
Now the opinions of AR fans are being dismissed similarly.
You would think that a decade with the guy would buy the Hog fans some credibility.
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1. Houston Nutt is a retard.
2. He will fuck up Ole Mrs.
3. Who cares? Ole Mrs sucks anyway.
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I thought this thread was about Birmingham.
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I thought this thread was about Birmingham.
I'm not sure his nuts have dropped yet.
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I thought this thread was about Birmingham.
It should be.
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http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/7/29/1594561/welcome-wild-samoan-here-is-your (http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/7/29/1594561/welcome-wild-samoan-here-is-your)
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http://yallsports.com/index.php/ys/post/24891/ (http://yallsports.com/index.php/ys/post/24891/)
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/07/27/masoli/index.html?eref=sihp (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/07/27/masoli/index.html?eref=sihp)
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http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/7/29/1594561/welcome-wild-samoan-here-is-your (http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/7/29/1594561/welcome-wild-samoan-here-is-your)
THAT is freaking hysterical. Those are the best sports writers on teh intrawebs...
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Just watch what Nutt is doing at Ole Miss. History will repeat itself. He has peaked out already.
Have yall been following the Cotton leaving/Masoli deal? He's on the verge of fucking up the whole team's psyche.
And the fans are in favor of this move. Hell I thought Nutt was a pretty good coach after his 2nd year here. Familiarity breeds comtempt.
Ive been reading about the Cotton/Masoli fiasco. Thats what I call it anyway. Some people say he is, but I DO NOT think Masoli is worth it. Cotton was the real deal in HS and was to be our QB of the future until Tubs departed. I agree this is screwing up the team chemistry.
Like AWK said, Old Mrs sucks ass anyway so let them be. Boise should wax them next year. :rofl: :rofl:
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Here's a pretty good analysis of Nutt by Hurtt. I think it still holds up.
http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=67244.msg1144166#msg1144166 (http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=67244.msg1144166#msg1144166)
The whole series is in that thread.
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Here's a pretty good analysis of Nutt by Hurtt. I think it still holds up.
http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=67244.msg1144166#msg1144166 (http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=67244.msg1144166#msg1144166)
The whole series is in that thread.
Here's my question to you and RCH: Since you guys hate Nutt so much, aren't you GLAD he is in Oxford and NOT Fayetteville?
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Here's my question to you and RCH: Since you guys hate Nutt so much, aren't you GLAD he is in Oxford and Fayetteville?
I'm glad he's gone from here and it is fun to watch the drama at another school.
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Here's my question to you and RCH: Since you guys hate Nutt so much, aren't you GLAD he is in Oxford and Fayetteville?
Every day of the week that ends in Y. I just jumped in on your post about the talent level left for Nutt being better than the talent left for Petrino and tried to provide a differing opinion.
As for Nutt, he is just one of those "All about Me" guys that seemingly float through life falling in shit and smelling like a rose afterwards that have done nothing to deserve the credit they think they are entitled to. If you are not familiar, HDN throughout his career at Arkansas assumed himself to be a better OC/QB coach than All-Pro Joe Ferguson (taught Stoerner) and an equivalent Coach/Playcaller to Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells.
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an equivalent Coach/Playcaller to Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells.
Now thats funny
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HDN is like a hot girl who is pretty damn good in the sack but is crazier than a shit-house rat. Then the guy has to ask himself the question "Is the hot sex worth putting up with all the crayzee??" And maybe at first it is, but eventually, you think "I can find some good pussy elsewhere..." and you dump the psycho bitch.
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HDN is like a hot girl who is pretty damn good in the sack but is crazier than a shit-house rat. Then the guy has to ask himself the question "Is the hot sex worth putting up with all the crayzee??" And maybe at first it is, but eventually, you think "I can find some good pussy elsewhere..." and you dump the psycho bitch.
This.
But if she let's you stir them collard greens then you extend that period by a couple of weeks.
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Now thats funny
Nutt actually said that.
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HDN is like the sorta cute girl who puts out but is crazier than a poop-house rat. Then the guy has to ask himself the question "Is the hot sex worth putting up with all the crayzee??" And maybe at first it is, but eventually, you think "I can find some good pussy elsewhere..." and you dump the psycho bitch.
fixt
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This.
But if she let's you stir them collard greens then you extend that period by a couple of weeks.
But at the end of the day, you still kick her to the curb and are just relieved that your dog is still alive, your house has not burned down, and all of your body parts are still intact...
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But at the end of the day, you still kick her to the curb and are just relieved that your dog is still alive, your house has not burned down, and all of your body parts are still intact...
this was not the case for wartiger.
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this was not the case for wartiger.
Well played sir!
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He does love that helmet.
His brother did invent the Wildcat in a brain injury induced haze.
He did call that play, brutha. He called a lot of good plays today!
So, he's got all that going for him.
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He does love that helmet.
His brother did invent the Wildcat in a brain injury induced haze.
He did call that play, brutha. He called a lot of good plays today!
So, he's got all that going for him.
Giggitah!
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But at the end of the day, you still kick her to the curb and are just relieved that your dog is still alive, your house has not burned down, and all of your body parts are still intact...
True but there will be a couple of collard stirring rendezvous before it is officially over.
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this was not the case for wartiger.
Thank goodness SOMEONE was paying attention!!
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Posted this in the shout box. Thought I would post it here since HDN was topic.
http://blogs.clarionledger.com/um/2010/07/30/masoli-expected-to-visit-ole-miss-this-weekend/ (http://blogs.clarionledger.com/um/2010/07/30/masoli-expected-to-visit-ole-miss-this-weekend/)
Edit, the other link was sending you to the main page of the blog and not the piece on Masoli.
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Every day of the week that ends in Y. I just jumped in on your post about the talent level left for Nutt being better than the talent left for Petrino and tried to provide a differing opinion.
As for Nutt, he is just one of those "All about Me" guys that seemingly float through life falling in poop and smelling like a rose afterwards that have done nothing to deserve the credit they think they are entitled to. If you are not familiar, HDN throughout his career at Arkansas assumed himself to be a better OC/QB coach than All-Pro Joe Ferguson (taught Stoerner) and an equivalent Coach/Playcaller to Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells.
It is Petrino that is described by Tom Coughlin as the best play caller he has ever seen. I think Nutt is Emsfinger next to Petrino as an offensive mind. Nutt is a players coach that can rally the troops but is out of his element when it comes to strategy and somewhat rivaled by Miles who has had more with which to work. A poll would probably place Petrino no worse than fourth among all SEC coaches.
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http://twitter.com/RebelMasoli (http://twitter.com/RebelMasoli)
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http://twitter.com/RebelMasoli (http://twitter.com/RebelMasoli)
I chortled.
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From Stewart Mandel-
Your Houston Nutt article is an outrage! Who are you, Mr. Stewart Mandel, to call a fine coach trying to help someone dirty or question his integrity? You should be fired!! I think you, sir, are a big A$$!!
-- Steve, North Mississippi
After reading your latest article on Houston Nutt, I only have one thing to say: Thank you so much for publishing that article. I honestly can't thank you enough for exposing this man for who he truly is.
-- James, Little Rock, Ark.
I knew the Nutt column would elicit some strong reactions, but I had no idea they would split so diametrically between the states of Mississippi and Arkansas. I literally received hundreds of e-mails just like these two. It's no surprise Ole Miss fans so vociferously defended their coach (though I have no doubt the same exact people would have crucified Dan Mullen if by chance Mississippi State had taking Masoli instead), but apparently Nutt is about as popular in Arkansas as Kiffin is in Tennessee.
But the point of the column was not to rile up those two fan bases. Let me address a less partisan e-mail.
Stewart, your writing is usually spot-on in regards to the ever-wavering ethics of college football, but your criticism of Houston Nutt's acceptance of Masoli is uncharacteristically harsh to the point of seeming almost personal. I'm not saying that you're wrong about Nutt, just that you seem to have lost your perspective as a journalist on this one. What gives?
-- James, Edmond, Okla.
I don't dispute that the column was harsh, but it wasn't without reason.
My hope with the Nutt-Masoli piece was that readers might take a moment to rethink what truly constitutes "dirty" in this day and age. It's been an eventful off-season for scandal-related headlines, and as I wrote in the lead, I've noticed fans throwing around the d-word with reckless abandon, demonizing coaches and programs based mostly on blanket assumptions and innuendo. Listening to some of the revisionist history out there about Pete Carroll's USC tenure, you'd think he was handing Reggie Bush money out of his own wallet, which couldn't be further from the truth. If you're going to accuse someone of being "dirty," it really ought to be for something of his own doing.
Admittedly, Nutt has broken no rules, and if that's your sole criteria for judging a coach's ethics, then you're obviously going to disagree with the column. But as I wrote, Nutt has demonstrated a repeated pattern over the past several years of shameless win-at-any-cost tactics. Taking on Masoli just happens to be his most brazenly transparent. No one's buying the cover that this has anything to do with "helping" a wayward kid. As Nutt himself told the Memphis Commercial Appeal: "I could have not gone after him, gone 6-6 this season and got ready to reload [for 2011]. But when you think about your team, you have an obligation to them to do everything you can to put them in the best situation to win."
Sadly, this has become the standard operating mentality for a lot of coaches, and I happen to find it more troublesome than many of the things others might consider "dirty," but unfortunately, a lot of fans now tacitly accept it.
I am an Ole Miss fan, and if taking Masoli helps us win more games, so be it. This is what college football has become. Get over it.
-- David Davis, Taylorsville, Miss.
Case in point.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/08/04/next-generation/#ixzz0vfh3J1E6 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/08/04/next-generation/#ixzz0vfh3J1E6)
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Well. If Old Mrs. wins a lot of games this season, the Ole Nutsy will be vindicated.
Unless his QB gets arrested before the new year.
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Sometimes corches just have to weigh the possible backlash against the probable reward when it comes to signing a "troubled" athlete. Your multi-million dollar job is based almost solely on wins and losses so in analyzing the risk/reward, you'll almost always choose the latter. I have no problem with second or third chances as long as the "crime" is not of a violent nature. If a college kid smokes a little weed, like probably 50% or more of his fellow college students...what the hell. Give him his punishment under the law, suspend him and run him til he pukes. Then put him on a short leash. If he screws up again, then maybe another setting, another program is better suited for him.
I have no idea about Nuttybars past in these matters. Some of you on the board know far more about it. Bottom line, I hate to see this kid come in and make an average team a really dangerous team.
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I have no idea about Nuttybars past in these matters. Some of you on the board know far more about it. Bottom line, I hate to see this kid come in and make an average team a really dangerous team.
I wouldn't worry too much about Masoli. His non-conf numbers were pretty awful. SEC defenses will eat him alive.
The funniest part of all of this is that Nutt said he could have refused to take Masoli and gone 6-6, or he could do right by his players and try to put them in a position to win.
My questions are:
1) What does that statement do to the psyches of Stanley and the other QB?
2) Why, after 3 recruiting classes, is Nutt so short on QBs?
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I wouldn't worry too much about Masoli. His non-conf numbers were pretty awful. SEC defenses will eat him alive.
Betting man are ya?
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Betting man are ya?
I yam.
Whatcha got?
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I yam.
Whatcha got?
Gotta have something to bet on...the general "SEC Defenses will eat him alive" is a bit subjective. I'm up for a handle of your fave spirit though...does Bartles and James come in a handle size?
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Gotta have something to bet on...the general "SEC Defenses will eat him alive" is a bit subjective. I'm up for a handle of your fave spirit though...does Bartles and James come in a handle size?
You know not of which you speak. This man knows the ways of the spirits.
Masoli
5'11 220
2009 Stats 177-305 2147 yds 15 TD's 6 Int. 121 Rushes for 668 yds 5.5 avg. 13TDs.
Doesn't overwhelm you but you can't argue his numbers don't look pretty solid. I'd love to have that coming back at the QB position.
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You know not of which you speak. This man knows the ways of the spirits.
Masoli
5'11 220
2009 Stats 177-305 2147 yds 15 TD's 6 Int. 121 Rushes for 668 yds 5.5 avg. 13TDs.
Doesn't overwhelm you but you can't argue his numbers don't look pretty solid. I'd love to have that coming back at the QB position.
He faced two non-Pac 10, BCS teams last year: Purdue and Ohio St.
His stats:
Purdue: 11/21 163 0/0; 14/84 1TD
Ohio St: 9/20 81 0/1; 6/9 1TD
Big 10 defense is the most comparable to SEC that Masoli has faced...and he was very unimpressive.
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He faced two non-Pac 10, BCS teams last year: Purdue and Ohio St.
His stats:
Purdue: 11/21 163 0/0; 14/84 1TD
Ohio St: 9/20 81 0/1; 6/9 1TD
Big 10 defense is the most comparable to SEC that Masoli has faced...and he was very unimpressive.
USCs defense was chopped liver eh?
Soooooo.....
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i will be more interested in masoli's ability to adjust to the humid, hot south. did he condition himself during the past few months? that i don't know. perhaps it's not a factor.
pac 10 wasn't that impressive last season either.
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i will be more interested in masoli's ability to adjust to the humid, hot south. did he condition himself during the past few months? that i don't know. perhaps it's not a factor.
pac 10 wasn't that impressive last season either.
Reckon he'll steal an air conditioner right off the bat?
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USCs defense was chopped liver eh?
Soooooo.....
USC's 2009 defensive rankings:
Total defense: 40th (7 SEC teams ranked higher)
Rush defense: 39th (3 SEC teams ranked higher)
Pass defense: 48th (8 SEC teams ranked higher)
Scoring defense: 22nd (4 SEC teams ranked higher)
http://www.ncaa.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/ncaa-m-footbl-stats-index.html (http://www.ncaa.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/ncaa-m-footbl-stats-index.html)
Not chopped liver, but not appreciably better than what he'll see day in and day out in the SEC.
EDIT NOTE: For the sake of completeness, I thought I should include Masoli's stats in the 2009 UO/USC game:
19/31 222 1/0; 13/164 1TD
This represented his season-high rushing yardage. His next best rushing performance was against Purdue (84 yds).
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Gotta have something to bet on...the general "SEC Defenses will eat him alive" is a bit subjective.
Completely agree. My "Whatcha got?" was inclusive of conditions and stakes. We can go any number of ways and I'm open to suggestions.
I'm up for a handle of your fave spirit though...does Bartles and James come in a handle size?
B&J was almost a perfect union...damn that ampersand. Handle (or equivalent volume) of Bombay Sapphire will do nicely.
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How about this one for the Masoli fan?
Auburn's transfer QB will have better numbers than Ole Miss's Heisman contender transfer QB.
Just a suggestion.
I already have my bets in with Jumbo and Birmingham(if he comes back)for the year.
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How about this one for the Masoli fan?
Auburn's transfer QB will have better numbers than Ole Miss's Heisman contender transfer QB.
Just a suggestion.
I already have my bets in with Jumbo and Birmingham(if he comes back)for the year.
I'm confused. Who are you saying will have better numbers?
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I'm confused. Who are you saying will have better numbers?
Neither one. Just a suggestion for betting purposes. Masoli vs Newton.
Both are transfers. The one with the Heisman mention is under the tutelage of the Killa, the one with no mention of Heisman in his resume is under Gus's wing.
I think it will be interesting to see how they measure up once the season's stats are in on them.
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From a talent standpoint, Masoli is an upgrade for Ole Mrs. They now have a chance where before they had none. And an SEC defense on HIS side could give hem a chance to do just enough to win...even without the "numbers". I am more nervous now about playing them.
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Neither one. Just a suggestion for betting purposes. Masoli vs Newton.
Both are transfers. The one with the Heisman mention is under the tutelage of the Killa, the one with no mention of Heisman in his resume is under Gus's wing.
I think it will be interesting to see how they measure up once the season's stats are in on them.
Won't even be a race.
Let's see. One has been on campus nine months and one has been on campus not quite nine days.
I'll take all comers on this one.
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Completely agree. My "Whatcha got?" was inclusive of conditions and stakes. We can go any number of ways and I'm open to suggestions.
B&J was almost a perfect union...damn that ampersand. Handle (or equivalent volume) of Bombay Sapphire will do nicely.
So who is going to come up with the quantifiable bet?
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So who is going to come up with the quantifiable bet?
Uh...I was throwing open the door for your suggestions.
Options:
1) Masoli will not finish higher than sixth in SEC QB rating.
2) OM will not win more than 6 games (Hoot's Masoli-less prediction) even with Masoli.
The wildcard in a bet like this is Nutt's total and complete insanity. He kept McCluster handcuffed last season until the Ark game. Mostly because that game is his Superbowl now. How will he play Masoli? Starter, Wild-Samoan, part of a platoon of qbs?
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Uh...I was throwing open the door for your suggestions.
Options:
1) Masoli will not finish higher than sixth in SEC QB rating.
2) OM will not win more than 6 games (Hoot's Masoli-less prediction) even with Masoli.
The wildcard in a bet like this is Nutt's total and complete insanity. He kept McCluster handcuffed last season until the Ark game. Mostly because that game is his Superbowl now. How will he play Masoli? Starter, Wild-Samoan, part of a platoon of qbs?
Nutt didn't bring this cat in to mess around. He's the starter game one.
I like the O/U on wins. I was thinking that yesterday, and thinking without Masoli they're a 6 win team, with they were an 8. So, O/U is 7, and I take the over.
I say he has 2500 yards of total offense, and 18 total TDs.
We can make it three total (separate) O/U bets (3 means there should be no tie except in the case of a push). O/U 7 Wins, 2500 total yds, 18 TDs. I take the over on each. A "Handle" on each. BTW, I choose the same brand.
If you got better ideas, I'm open.
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Here's my thing with Masoli. I have no dog in the fight other than he now plays for a division rival so I hope he eats shit and dies. However, I would say that if he does consume said shit and pass on, it will be because of the Nuttjob and not his abilities. When you talk about how he will now be facing SEC defenses, you have to also factor that he'll be facing that behind his own SEC line and handing off to SEC backs and throwing to SEC caliber pass catchers. Not that OM is loaded but they are in fact an SEC team.
Other than that, I hope he eats shit and dies, right along with Howdy Doody, Freekishly Tall Mallet Cat and whoever LSU's QB is.
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Nutt didn't bring this cat in to mess around. He's the starter game one.
I like the O/U on wins. I was thinking that yesterday, and thinking without Masoli they're a 6 win team, with they were an 8. So, O/U is 7, and I take the over.
I say he has 2500 yards of total offense, and 18 total TDs.
We can make it three total (separate) O/U bets (3 means there should be no tie except in the case of a push). O/U 7 Wins, 2500 total yds, 18 TDs. I take the over on each. A "Handle" on each. BTW, I choose the same brand.
If you got better ideas, I'm open.
I'll take the under on each of those. Handle on each. Bet.
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Here's my thing with Masoli. I have no dog in the fight other than he now plays for a division rival so I hope he eats poop and dies. However, I would say that if he does consume said poop and pass on, it will be because of the Nuttjob and not his abilities. When you talk about how he will now be facing SEC defenses, you have to also factor that he'll be facing that behind his own SEC line and handing off to SEC backs and throwing to SEC caliber pass catchers. Not that OM is loaded but they are in fact an SEC team.
Other than that, I hope he eats poop and dies, right along with Howdy Doody, Freekishly Tall Mallet Cat and whoever LSU's QB is.
Well done sir!
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Well done sir!
Yall are rough on my man. Die instead of just breaking his foot again?
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I'll take the under on each of those. Handle on each. Bet.
witness
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witness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqiOAzzcC1Q# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqiOAzzcC1Q#)
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Yall are rough on my man. Die instead of just breaking his foot again?
No..eat shit and die. He can be resurrected after the season. But for now, eat shit and die.
Nothing personal, I just want to win.
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How about this one for the Masoli fan?
Auburn's transfer QB will have better numbers than Ole Miss's Heisman contender transfer QB.
Just a suggestion.
I already have my bets in with Jumbo and Birmingham(if he comes back)for the year.
A huge thanks to Boartitz for my Sassy Jones BBQ sauce :thumsup:
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A huge thanks to Boartitz for my Sassy Jones BBQ sauce :thumsup:
Is Sassy Jones tart and tangy with ample heat?