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The Library => Broun Hall => Topic started by: GH2001 on November 09, 2017, 09:22:49 AM
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Been talking to a couple on here this morning about this travesty that occurred last night.
Other than being irritated with the unfunny paisley/underwood schtick (yes I'm aware she's hot) - the quality and reasoning behind the show, the performances, who they acknowledge and the bewildering criteria behind who wins - it's all a travesty. And mind boggling.
I'm not a huge fan of "new Nashville country". I have my reasons - much of it having to do with my family's history in bluegrass and country music. I grew up idolizing my grandparents and great uncles who could play anything and everything. Good enough that they occasionally would join some of the more famous artists of the time for sessions and concerts. That aside, I haven't been content with the genre since Garth came along and took it to the shitter.
That said, I've made of it what I can if the artist is remotely decent - picking out their good stuff and rolling with it. Artists like Brad Paisley, Luke, Kenny, Aldean even newer ones like Rhett and Stapleton.
But.....the Cma awards are apparently devoid of even being able to deliver those guys to the stage. Last night was the Garth and Keith Urban show. Urban has talent. He can kill a guitar. And can carry a tune decently. But he's from Australia, looks like a chick and has totally sold out to writing love ballads these days. Booooo.
Garth? I will say it. He's a no talent hack. He has average at best instrument skills. His over the top synthesized twangy voice is not good. His theatrics on stage make me want to vomit. He has been the benefactor of great choreographers, sound engineers and record producers who have great marketing skills and ties to radio station owners. He has released one album in recent memory. And one single that has gotten airplay. His tour just started this fall and has had issues with sound quality thus far. And this asshat gets Entertainer of the year last night. An absolute fail. Look up the definition of what that award means. I don't like everything Eric church puts out but he's legit and about half of his material resembles the genre. And frankly his concert tours the last two years have been stuff of legend. That's an entertainer. Kenny Chesney is an entertainer. KISS are entertainers. Mick Jagger is an entertainer. Garth Brooks is a desperate joke.
George, Hank, Lefty, Merle and many others are rolling in their graves. Not because of the evolution of country music and the aforementioned artists. But because there is a system in place in nashvegas that annoints someone like Garth to be the standard bearer for the genre for over twenty years regardless of what he does or how awful he is.
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Didn’t watch. Have never really paid much attt to award shows.
Interesting to learn about your family history.
No fan of today’s radio and I simply don’t care about their political views.
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I watched about an hour of it. Far less entertaining than some of the other country award shows. Hell, one of the best songs I saw performed was by Pink.
Agree with GH. I'm not a big fan of today's country or the country music of just about any generation. There are several artists from any time period I can pick out and really enjoy. But, the only time I listen to it for any length of time is when Snagette is in the car and threatening to throw my balls out the window if I don't change the channel. Then, I love me some country. One thing I do love is a good concert just about regardless of what the genre is.
Anyway, I also echo GH's sentiments on Keith Urban. Extremely talented guitar player and musician. But, his music hasn't remotely resembled anything to do with country in years. Go check out "The Fighter". It recently hit #1 and has about as much relation to country as Hip Hop. At least throw in a fiddle to make it look like you're trying. Garth? Jeez Louise! Seriously??? I was never a fan of his anyway, but since he came back, it's like an old Larry Holmes stepping into the ring with young Mike Tyson. Dude, you should have stayed retired. But EOY??? He can't even sing on key anymore.
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How come no one ever echos my sentiments around here?
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"Country" music died the moment that piece of shit fraud Garth Brooks waddled out on stage.
Everything about him is phony.
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How come no one ever echos my sentiments around here?
You really have to ask?
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How come no one ever echos my sentiments around here?
New phone. Who dis?
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"Country" music died the moment that piece of shit fraud Garth Brooks waddled out on stage.
Everything about him is phony.
Including his performance at the very awards show that gave him the biggest prize of the night.
https://www.today.com/popculture/garth-brooks-wins-cma-award-admits-lip-syncing-during-performance-t118585
Lamest excuse I've ever heard. Pudding pop just started touring. His voice should be fresh. Mick Jagger and Gregg allman used to keep that kind of busy schedule for decades. Makes you wonder if this is some of the reason behind the "technical sound issues" at his concerts so far. Hmmmm.
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On one of the shows last year, I told Snagette that Rascal Flatts was definitely lip syncing. They weren't even faking it well. Came out the next day that they were. So now, the almighty Entertainer of the Year ain't even entertaining?
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There are a lot of good artists out there. They just aren't getting play time.
This guy comes up with some good original stuff at times:
https://www.facebook.com/creed.fisher/videos/1947624215253571/
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Went and seen Aaron Lewis in Huntsville this past Sunday. That guy is more country than anyone in the country genre right now. And he puts on a hell of a show.
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Went and seen Aaron Lewis in Huntsville this past Sunday. That guy is more country than anyone in the country genre right now. And he puts on a hell of a show.
There are even some mainstream artists like Church and Paisley who are immensely talented at the trade but to satisfy record producers they have to sell the garbage half the time. Anyone who is a purist won't ever get known or if they do they will get ruined very shortly. Very few can pull off still being big while doing their own thing and not beholden to Nashville - yokam, Alan jackson, etc.
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Why didn't Walker Wheeler Jr. win anything?
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Didn’t watch. Have never really paid much attt to award shows.
Interesting to learn about your family history.
No fan of today’s radio and I simply don’t care about their political views.
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Didn’t watch. Have never really paid much attt to award shows.
Interesting to learn about your family history.
No fan of today’s radio and I simply don’t care about their political views.
Best insight yet in this thread
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Didn’t watch. Have never really paid much attt to award shows.
Interesting to learn about your family history.
No fan of today’s radio and I simply don’t care about their political views.
Bout time someone posted a good response.
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Why didn't Walker Wheeler Jr. win anything?
Earl Dibbles beat him out .....barely.
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Earl Dibbles beat him out .....barely.
Dammit
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Which one of those goobers gargled Amazing Grace at the beginning ? Whoever that was needs his dick shot off and fed to him through a straw.
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Which one of those goobers gargled Amazing Grace at the beginning ? Whoever that was needs his dick shot off and fed to him through a straw.
Eric church
Usually I like him. But he didn't need to be singing that one. It would be like hank jr singing a lullaby to your toddler. Church also totally effed up later on too singing some garbage.
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There are even some mainstream artists like Church and Paisley who are immensely talented at the trade but to satisfy record producers they have to sell the garbage half the time. Anyone who is a purist won't ever get known or if they do they will get ruined very shortly. Very few can pull off still being big while doing their own thing and not beholden to Nashville - yokam, Alan jackson, etc.
A tiny bit of devil's advocate here. If it's all about the music, don't sell out. Just play your music and if you're talented enough to be offered the "sell out" by Nashville, you'll build your own following. But if you want to set yourself up for life, play what they tell you. AUT1, how many time have you seen Jason Isbell? You're going to need to take off your shoes to keep counting, amirite? BTW, he was nominated for Album of the Year last night. I found this from a Q&A with Isbell on his nomination.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Congratulations! Album of the Year is a big nomination. How did you and your band, the 400 Unit, react to the news?
JASON ISBELL: Thank you! We’re definitely grateful. It’s weird: I don’t really see myself as a country musician. [Laughs] I see what we do as rock & roll. But when you’re from Alabama and you have a Southern accent and you sing about rural things…
He's built one hell of a following without the help of Nashville or country radio. But his nomination alone just made that boy an ass load of money.
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Didn’t watch. Have never really paid much attt to award shows.
Interesting to learn about your family history.
No fan of today’s radio and I simply don’t care about their political views.
Didn't even know it was on and would not have watched it anyway.
I truly don't see how anybody listens to any local radio. It is truly shit here in Dallas. XM has gotten terrible lately. I cancelled it last year. They basically have DJ's now on most stations that fucking cackle with their opinions on shit.
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A tiny bit of devil's advocate here. If it's all about the music, don't sell out. Just play your music and if you're talented enough to be offered the "sell out" by Nashville, you'll build your own following. But if you want to set yourself up for life, play what they tell you. AUT1, how many time have you seen Jason Isbell? You're going to need to take off your shoes to keep counting, amirite? BTW, he was nominated for Album of the Year last night. I found this from a Q&A with Isbell on his nomination.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Congratulations! Album of the Year is a big nomination. How did you and your band, the 400 Unit, react to the news?
JASON ISBELL: Thank you! We’re definitely grateful. It’s weird: I don’t really see myself as a country musician. [Laughs] I see what we do as rock & roll. But when you’re from Alabama and you have a Southern accent and you sing about rural things…
He's built one hell of a following without the help of Nashville or country radio. But his nomination alone just made that boy an ass load of money.
Isbell is an exception to an extent. For everyone of him you have sturgill Simpson who is excellent but a starving artist. Same with hank 3. And hank 3 wouldn't even have what he does without his name. End of the day, the millions are hard to turn down. I don't blame them. I just hate the music becomes a casualty.