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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: wesfau2 on April 17, 2010, 06:49:43 PM
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I just finished watching most of the A-Day game (pre-empted for fucking lacrosse?) and here are my thoughts in no particular order:
QBs:
-Caudle throws very nice, tight passes. He's patient and seems to work his way through the progression to find an open man. Neil had a nice scramble in the 3rd quarter.
- Newton was patient in the pocket, but his accuracy is pretty poor. The long bomb to Carr was short, otherwise it would have been a TD. He threw another deep ball, this time to Blake, that was low and in front of the receiver.
- Trotter was impressive. Accurate passing and the offense seemed very efficient with him on the field. Not sure of the level of competition that Trotter was facing, though. He was sacked by Joe Jones. Who the fuck is Joe Jones? Trotter showed some good mobility outside the pocket.
- Mosely throws a very pretty pass. He was, however, the only QB to fumble the exchange. He recovered the ball, though, and that's good work for a frosh.
RBs:
-Fannin did a good job of adjusting back to RB mentality and away from slot receiver. He had some opportunities to bounce the ball outside, but he stayed patient and ran inside. He showed that he still has good hands with a nice catch from Trotter.
-McCalebb is...slower. He's not the same kid that came out of the gate last year.
-Eric Smith looks bigger than last year. Showed good hands on a play negated by a hold, but dropped a Caudle pass later (pass was low).
-Dontae Aycock had some nice runs and made a very nice block to pick up a blitz in the first quarter.
-Davis Hooper. I don't know who the fuck he is either, but he was a busy man today.
WRs:
-Wisner had some ugly drops in the first half. Redeemed himself a bit in the 3rd quarter with a nice 3rd down grab.
-TZach had a beautiful catch and run for TD. Lots of poor tackling on the play, but Zachary looked like nothing was going to keep him out of the endzone.
-Carr is very, very fast, but that play doesn't go yard if Savage (I think he's #8) doesn't stumble inside at the line of scrimmage. Lucky break.
Defense:
-Antoine Carter was everywhere. The kid looks ready to ball.
-That's it. No one else made any memorable plays on defense. You saw the scoreboard, right? Which leads me to...
I was confused by the distribution of talent on the squads, so I can't tell if our defense is fucking horrible, our offense is scoring on scrubs or our offense is remarkably efficient and productive. With Malzahn that last option doesn't seem so far-fetched. Notice that all the QBs had very efficient numbers...except Newton. Which leads me to...
If I had to pick a QB right now to start the season, it would be Barrett Trotter, with Neil Caudle a very, very close 2nd. Newton is 3rd place until his passing accuracy improves. I realize that he didn't run the ball much and that some will say that his performance was hindered by not being able to showcase his entire arsenal. HOWEVER, his only attempt was a loss of yardage and all the other QBs (save Mosely, but he's not really in this race) managed to scramble for positive yards and look good doing it.
Lots of good in this game and some cause for concern. We need that frosh class to show up ready to play in some places.
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I thought you guys looked alright. I didn't watch most of the game but it seemed like every time I flipped the channel over a big play was being made.
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Just got back from the game and getting ready to head back out to dinner, so a few thoughts quickly...
RB's... Fannin looked great. Looked like the Fannin vs. GA a few years ago, and now he's the man. Aycock looked pretty good and stayed with the blocks the most. Sometimes that was good, sometimes it wasn't. He'll need to pick his spots as he picks up the speed of the game. McCalleb looked a little slower, but it seemed like his runs were mostly to the outside and the speed on defense was very telling there. I wouldn't sell him short, but he's going to have to be a Brad Lester type, and get more aggressive up the central gaps. JMO there....
QB's... Mosley looked good in the second half. Stronger arm than I imagined. Sat in the end zone, and paid most attention to the throws to the flats, as it seems that's going to be a large part of our base offense. Newton was strong, but lacked some accuracy when on the run. When he set and threw, it was beautiful. Looked a lot like Campbell with a wrist flick and it's gone type feel. His throws to the outside were quick and gave the receivers time to adjust and make plays. Trotter was similar. Strong arm, and quicker on his feet than most people expected I think. Caudle looked just like he should. Efficient. I don't believe that he had the strongest arm out there today. I'd have Trotter 1. Newton 2. and Caudle a close 3rd.
Our offense has the QB's making some runs, and it was very clear that Trotter and Newton were very quick. If a lineman farted in the direction of a QB the play was dead, so it was hard to gauge, but the QB running function seems to be well in hand with this group.
Special teams. There were definitely some hit or miss punts. A few great ones at the beginning. A few real shitty ones in the middle, and a few average ones a the end. Byrum looked solid for the most part. Not sure who kicked the missed PAT early in the game. Demond Washington looked REALLY quick on kick offs. He breaks at least one or two this year if he gets ANY space and stays healthy. Quindarius Carr looked great all day and did a solid job of catching punts. Never had a bobble that I noticed and secured the ball before he started running.
It was very fast paced out there, and was very basic and repetitive, so I'm not sure how much one could really take, but there definitely seems to be a good bit of talent out there. Our coaches have their hands full over the rest of this spring before summer. I'll be ready to see some of our newbs come in and mix it up in August.
War Eagle....
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I thought Trotter looked the sharpest but it's hard to get a read when the defense is at such a disadvantage.
Fannin looked strong and Carr had a good day. About what I expected.
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Defense was awful. Absolutely awful. That's all I got.
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Without knowing what the coaches were looking at/for...it's hard to take much from what you see at A-Day. The fact that Cam isn't wowing anybody concerns me, but it's only 2 weeks in to the system for him. If they get 2 weeks in to fall camp without getting down to a 1 and 2 QB, we may be headed for a tough season.
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I agree with most of the observations, as all of those things were the things that clearly stood out.
However, for Newton, I really don't feel like I know any more about him now than I did yesterday. He only threw 8 passes, and there was all kinds of time and series in between his appearances. I don't know that it really told us anything. We've all seen some of the best quarterbacks in all of football history look like poop, going 3 for 10 to start a game, then get in a groove later and go 9 of their next 10. Reaching any kind of conclusion based on 8 passes is like watching a guy warm up before a game and then making a decision about what kind of player he is. It's just not enough to go on.
I don't think we saw nearly enough of him to know anything at all. That isn't as true for Caudle. He threw 21 times and I felt better about him than I did last year, for sure, no question. Trotter looked alright too, but I don't think I would take him over Caudle at this point. They're similar.
I kind of feel the same about the defense. It's hard to tell anything because of how things were broken up. It was too hard to tell who was going against who (from a talent stand point). Chizik said during the broadcast that it was just a base defense vs base offense set up that was just for evaluating random things.
Outside of a "feeling" about individual players, I don't think much can be gleaned from what we saw, good or bad.
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I don't think the rotation or playcalling really worked in Newton's favor today. That's the way it is when you're in every few series with a different bunch. Caudle looked sharp as hell. I think the O is going to be unbelievable no mater who they choose at QB. The addition of Carr stepping up and TZach seemingly coming into his own..makes me moist.
The D? As one hell of an incredibly knowledgeable AU person told me today..."Underwhelming at best".
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With as veteran an O-line as we've ever had and the emergence of so many skill position players, this offense should do incredible things. Defensively...I'm so not a Roof fan yet. I railed on his lack of schemes all last year until the Bama game when he threw the kitchen sink at them with his formations. But, the bottom line is that nobody has tackled under Roof. They ALL try to knock you off your feet instead of breaking down & wrapping up. It seems they would have learned after the Northwestern embarrassment but I saw the same crap out there all day today. Even the announcers for ESPN were commenting on it.
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I was happy to see DeAngelo Benton actually catch the ball a lot. Also, no dropped punts....and Caudle's throws were not all tight, notice they didn't call that many deep passes for Caudle...probably because the coaches didn't want to see interceptions. Just going off of today's scrimmage, Trotter looked the best...but, taking all 15 days of Spring Practice, IMO, the QB Depth Chart will be 1. Cam, 2. Trotter, 3. Caudle...Also, the no contact on the QBs handcuffed what Newton can and will do.
#13 Craig Sanders and #33 Jessel Curry had pretty good games. Curry was all over the field.
I'll be surprised if Demond Washington doesn't return a couple Kickoffs for TDs.
I was very impressed with Hot Boy, he's gotten bigger.
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I was happy to see DeAngelo Benton actually catch the ball a lot. Also, no dropped punts....and Caudle's throws were not all tight, notice they didn't call that many deep passes for Caudle...probably because the coaches didn't want to see interceptions. Just going off of today's scrimmage, Trotter looked the best...but, taking all 15 days of Spring Practice, IMO, the QB Depth Chart will be 1. Cam, 2. Trotter, 3. Caudle...Also, the no contact on the QBs handcuffed what Newton can and will do.
#13 Craig Sanders and #33 Jessel Curry had pretty good games. Curry was all over the field.
I'll be surprised if Demond Washington doesn't return a couple Kickoffs for TDs.
Throwing the ball to the flats is going to be a huge part of this offense. C. Newton and Trotter did that with the most authority in my opinion. Trotter got it out there quickly. Newton made a few NFL calibur strength throws to the sidelines. Caudle seems to be Todd2.0 to me in the arm strength department. He's an improvement over Todd, but he's not going to have the big arm threat that Trotter and Newton seemed to have. ....and just because he didn't hit Carr in stride on that bomb didn't mean he couldn't have, he just missed on his touch.
Summer practice is going to be very interesting come fall. I'd be happy with Trotter over Cam, but see either one starting. I think Caudle is capable, but I don't think he'll beat out Trotter and Newton.
As Prowler said, not being live left a LOTTTTTTT on the table. I have confidence in all three being a threat in the open field.
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Throwing the ball to the flats is going to be a huge part of this offense. C. Newton and Trotter did that with the most authority in my opinion. Trotter got it out there quickly. Newton made a few NFL calibur strength throws to the sidelines. Caudle seems to be Todd2.0 to me in the arm strength department. He's an improvement over Todd, but he's not going to have the big arm threat that Trotter and Newton seemed to have. ....and just because he didn't hit Carr in stride on that bomb didn't mean he couldn't have, he just missed on his touch.
Summer practice is going to be very interesting come fall. I'd be happy with Trotter over Cam, but see either one starting. I think Caudle is capable, but I don't think he'll beat out Trotter and Newton.
As Prowler said, not being live left a LOTTTTTTT on the table. I have confidence in all three being a threat in the open field.
I went back and watched the replay of that pass. It was a 45-50 yard BOMB (from where the QB threw the ball to where the WR caught it), that Newton floated out there...which is pretty fuckin' amazing. Newton stepped up to throw the ball, but he didn't step into it.
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However, for Newton, I really don't feel like I know any more about him now than I did yesterday.
lol, couldn't have said it better myself, I bet you don't. Let me help you since he confirmed exactly what I posted on this board a few days ago. He will disappoint you. He's not very good at football. The end.
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lol, couldn't have said it better myself, I bet you don't. Let me help you since he confirmed exactly what I posted on this board a few days ago. He will disappoint you. He's not very good at football. The end.
You will be wrong.
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Also....over 63K to watch Auburn's A-Day game was pretty fuckin' awesome. We didn't have a brass statue or "special" NASCAR paint theme for 'Dega to unveil and we charged $5 a head ($316,085 at the gate for Auburn/$0 at the gate for SPuat).
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I really feel Fannin is ready for an outstanding senior season. He looks really good carrying the ball. McCalleb didn't impress but it's kind of hard to overcome expectations he created for himself after last years A-Day. Carr does look really good. The WR corp should be ready to roll for the 2010 season. Watching the game on TV, Chizik stated to Mr. Tom recruitnik that the coaches were more interested in calling plays for Newton to examine and polish his run game skills and operating that part of the offense. Chizik also stated that they were not too concerned with his ball throwing or scrambling skills and that is the purpose for play selection. As for Trotter, I really like this kid. I too would not be concerned one bit if Trotter won the starting job. This guy has the skills to be a big time SEC QB.
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Without knowing what the coaches were looking at/for...it's hard to take much from what you see at A-Day. The fact that Cam isn't wowing anybody concerns me, but it's only 2 weeks in to the system for him. If they get 2 weeks in to fall camp without getting down to a 1 and 2 QB, we may be headed for a tough season.
You're right. There's not much to get from an A-day game. I think Luginbill and Belotti explained it the best - you're just looking to see guys fly around the ball and try to get better technique wise.
I wasn't expecting Cam to come in and look like Peyton Manning with Michael Vick legs. I wasn't expecting the defense to knock helmets off and cause snot bubbles. I wasn't expecting Mario Fannin and McCalleb to have Reggie Bush-like highlights.
I was expecting to see basic, fundamental football. I saw a lot of that from the offense. They looked like typical spring football caliber football players.
The defense? They don't have a damn clue what's going on. Josh Bynes, god bless his heart, is slow as molasses. I guess he can't do much about that except take proper pursuit angles. And that's the worst part about it. They don't track the ball carrier. They get out of position and can't make a proper tackle.
I don't care if the offense outsmarts us in a spring game. But Quindarrius Carr, who by no means is a superstar, should not be running by our entire defense. Way too many missed tackles. Way too many guy still looking like they don't know how to read and react.
That's you, Ted Roof and Gene Chizik. Get it right, or just give Malzahn the head coaching job.
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You're right. There's not much to get from an A-day game. I think Luginbill and Belotti explained it the best - you're just looking to see guys fly around the ball and try to get better technique wise.
I wasn't expecting Cam to come in and look like Peyton Manning with Michael Vick legs. I wasn't expecting the defense to knock helmets off and cause snot bubbles. I wasn't expecting Mario Fannin and McCalleb to have Reggie Bush-like highlights.
I was expecting to see basic, fundamental football. I saw a lot of that from the offense. They looked like typical spring football caliber football players.
The defense? They don't have a damn clue what's going on. Josh Bynes, god bless his heart, is slow as molasses. I guess he can't do much about that except take proper pursuit angles. And that's the worst part about it. They don't track the ball carrier. They get out of position and can't make a proper tackle.
I don't care if the offense outsmarts us in a spring game. But Quindarrius Carr, who by no means is a superstar, should not be running by our entire defense. Way too many missed tackles. Way too many guy still looking like they don't know how to read and react.
That's you, Ted Roof and Gene Chizik. Get it right, or just give Malzahn the head coaching job.
Couldn't agree more with the defensive take. They all seem to take the wrong angles and don't tackle when they do get there. What the hell has happened to the art of tackling? What is this obsession with trying to knock someone off their feet intstead of wrapping up and exploding through the ball carrier? As I said earlier, the Northwestern game wasn't embarrassing enough to make them go back to Tackling for Dummies 101? They did that shit all last season and it culminated with The Outback Bowl. ESPN even showed that one play where every guy on the defense had a shot at the one white boy as he ambled down the sidelines for a 164 yard score.
Chizik is supposedly the defensive guru. He needs to forget everything else, get together with Roof and get that unit's shit together.
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Simple take from me.
It's not time to push the panic button, but it might be a good idea to at least know where it is.
We're still in the "we have five quarterbacks but no quarterback" quandry.
Prop Fannin all you want, but he's going to make us miss Ben Tate like a fat kid misses cake.
I stand firmly by my "if the 2010 team can just sustain the level of last year's team it will be a win" statement. I saw a team that could win eight games -- and could just as easily lose six or seven.
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Simple take from me.
It's not time to push the panic button, but it might be a good idea to at least know where it is.
We're still in the "we have five quarterbacks but no quarterback" quandry.
Prop Fannin all you want, but he's going to make us miss Ben Tate like a fat kid misses cake.
I stand firmly by my "if the 2010 team can just sustain the level of last year's team it will be a win" statement. I saw a team that could win eight games -- and could just as easily lose six or seven.
I know we hate the "skreets" concept, but supposedly, yesterday was about picking a backup between Trotter and Caudle. They were running option plays with Newton to get him a few reps but limited his PT.
He's got the job all locked up and has looked good all spring.
Just what I read...
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I think Newton with legs wins out but Trotter looks good to me either as number one or two.
I still think Fannin starts the season until Dyer gets worked into a few SEC games and finally shares the position if both can stay healthy. This is assuming that Dyer is the hoss we want to believe he is, might become or never be (as with hopes for Newton) as replacing the key elements with unknown quantities is critical.
I still do not think Fannin is an every-down back and how can a former QB carry the ball on the wrong side after all of the football he has played ?
Punting and kick-offs suck. Hope Kansas brought his slippers and Parkey can kick it past the fifteen yard line. That can't be a work in progress because it beats you.
Not as concerned with poor tackling yet as I think the defense was told not to maim the offense. I am more concerned with positioning by the regulars on defense as the poorest angles were from definite back-ups. The over touted names have to finally show up for this to work. Relentless pass rushing ends can overcome some poor coverage while poor tackling cannot.
Receivers are coming along nicely but still to many drops.
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I know we hate the "skreets" concept, but supposedly, yesterday was about picking a backup between Trotter and Caudle. They were running option plays with Newton to get him a few reps but limited his PT.
He's got the job all locked up and has looked good all spring.
Just what I read...
I do understand that when you take away the option for the QB to actually run, you negate a lot of what Newton can do (supposedly). I still didn't see a lot that inspired confidence in him running the offense.
Granted, we haven't seen it all, but based on that limited glimpse I'd rank it Trotter, Caudle, Newton, Jumbo, a dolphin and Wilford Brimley. Pretty even competition.
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"Granted, we haven't seen it all, but based on that limited glimpse I'd rank it Trotter, Caudle, Newton, Jumbo, a dolphin and Wilford Brimley. Pretty even competition."
Careful, that phucking Brimley guy was a stone cold killer in "The Firm." He works better from a horse though.
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Also....over 63K to watch Auburn's A-Day game was pretty phukin' awesome. We didn't have a brass statue or "special" NASCAR paint theme for 'Dega to unveil and we charged $5 a head ($316,085 at the gate for Auburn/$0 at the gate for SPuat).
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Scarbinsky: Was Auburn's A-Day mission to camouflage Cam Newton?
By Kevin Scarbinsky -- The Birmingham News
April 18, 2010, 5:30AM
cam newton autographs.jpgThe most work Cameron Newton did all day was signing lots of autographs afterward. (Birmingham News / Frank Couch)AUBURN
Cameron Newton was smooth. He showed tremendous poise. He handled everything that was thrown at him and did it with a smile.
It was quite a performance.
At the podium.
What did Newton think of the ovation that greeted him when he took the field for his first series?
‘‘I thought that was for Mario Fannin."
Ha. And that’s just a sample of his dexterity.
The can’t-miss, must-see QB won the postgame press conference going away Saturday, but that’s not what you and I and the largest A-Day crowd in Auburn history came to see.
We came to see the 6-foot-6, 247-pound juco phenom play a game with which most quarterbacks are not familiar. We came to see him, if not win the starting job on the spot, at least demonstrate why it’s only a matter of time.
Instead, someone handed him one of Pat Dye’s old game plans.
Auburn played four quarterbacks, three of them in the first half, and Newton threw the fewest passes of any of them. He was the only quarterback who didn’t throw a pass on a first down.
He spent less time on the field than ESPNU analyst Tom Luginbill.
Newton is the most mobile and physical of the Auburn quarterbacks, but there’s a reason those guys wore orange shirts. For them, this wasn’t tackle football. It was two-hand touch.
In short, the difference between what Newton is capable of doing and what the coaches allowed him to do was as vast as the gap between shooting a bullet and throwing it.
Neil Caudle and Barrett Trotter, metro Birmingham’s entrants in the Auburn quarterback derby, didn’t have the full playbook at their disposal, either. But if the offense was vanilla for them, at least it was brand-name vanilla, like Breyer’s.
For Newton, it was store-brand all the way.
A suspicious observer suggested as much to head coach Gene Chizik. The heart of his reply: ‘‘Don’t read anything into that."
Offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn expanded that message.
‘‘I wouldn’t read anything into anything," Malzahn said.
If this football thing doesn’t work out for them, Chizik and Malzahn have a promising future working for the CIA.
They’re experts at keeping state secrets.
It’ll be an upset of Tubervillian proportion if Newton isn’t the starting quarterback Sept. 4 against Arkansas State, but the coaches have convinced the players that this is a real competition and the winner has not been decided.
‘‘I think it’s still open," Trotter said.
Spring practice won’t end until after one more practice on Monday, but Caudle said, ‘‘I’m gonna come back in the fall and try to earn (the starting job)."
Trotter threw two touchdown passes Saturday, and Caudle tossed one more. Newton’s best chance was a 100-mph fastball that overshot an open receiver in the end zone.
It won’t be his last shot.
It’s not exactly a secret that the A-Day game, the most visible practice of the spring, is the least instructive. The Auburn defense was more basic than the Auburn offense.
As Newton said, ‘‘Today wasn’t a practice that you really could evaluate. It was just something to give the Auburn fans to brag about."
They didn’t see enough from Newton to brag -- though his 61-yard rainbow to Quindarius Carr was nice -- but holding him back had to be part of the grand plan, right?
‘‘I didn’t see it," Newton said. ‘‘The only thing holding me back is that I had this orange jersey on."
So don’t read anything into anything from A-Day, but this: The quarterbacks and the coaches are on the same page, so far.
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Simple take from me.
It's not time to push the panic button, but it might be a good idea to at least know where it is.
We're still in the "we have five quarterbacks but no quarterback" quandry.
Prop Fannin all you want, but he's going to make us miss Ben Tate like a fat kid misses cake.
I stand firmly by my "if the 2010 team can just sustain the level of last year's team it will be a win" statement. I saw a team that could win eight games -- and could just as easily lose six or seven.
Mario is faster than he was last year. He's not going to make everyone miss Tate "like a fat kid misses cake". The RB situation is good, WR situation is good, QB situation is good (the competition is for the 2nd string spot), OL situation will be good once Auburn finds a RT that doesn't get pushed back into the backfield like Brandon Mosely was, DL situation is good, LB situation is good and will be getting better once Holland, Owens and RaRa arrive. DB situation needs some work.
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I was at the game and I was NOT drunk. From What I could tell, Caudle looked very comfortable and seemed to get in a good rhythm from the beginning. Caudle is much faster and does a better job of carrying out the fakes after hand off. It allowed him to score a TD (which they stopped) He kept the ball on the run what seemed to be a few more times than any other QB, and looked good doing it. Cam looked very slow ans out of sync. He did not make quick decisions down field but stayed int the pocket a little too long at times. Trotter looked great. I'm not sure he is ready just yet, but the future looks REALLY good. I would not put him ahead of Caudle just yet.
If I had to play tomorrow, I would have to start Caudle. He looked like he understood the offense just a little better. He is not slouch running the ball either. Cam looked like he would be ready about the middle of the season. Malzahn is all about stability and Caudle really did show that. He did not go down field a lot because I think he was playing it really safe knowing that he has made a few INTs here lately. I thought he did the best job with the crossing routes and throwing on the run. I did not see enough of Cam to say he would be the most efficient QB.
The one thing I really liked about Trotter is that he plays to stick the knife in and twist. HE looks long first and then goes short. HE has the best long ball I have seen from and AU QB in a long time. He would have easily had two TD bombs if the wasted spot KB could have run a decent route without letting the DB tie him up. If we wre in a year where we were totally rebuilding, I would go ahead and start Trotter. The upside seems to be tremendous.
I like Derrick Winter. The guy just catches the ball. Three throws, three reception (same as last scrimmage) yet KB still takes up space. Winter is not the fastest but always seems to find the open spot. A guy like that can win games for you. Carr stepped up nicely. Darvin looked good. I do not think he needs to be catching screens though. Need a quicker cat for that. TZ looked step faster. Which is good because every time I see him running the ball I find myself wondering when he's gonna turn it on. He does make yards though? MF will have to be the guy this season. Not sure if he can hold up, but Dyer will need to come on strong. Aycock....looked OK. Had a little burst toward the end, but overall seemed a step slow?
Who was number 47 that caught Trotter's long bomb?
From what I could tell, the offense will give folks fits next season. The players are all getting comfortable with it and turning it loose. I feel the difference offensively between a good season and a great season next year will be the QB play. From what I could tell the competition is still open. Command of the offense will be key. flashes of greatness do not always start a fire, but a slow burning ember can heat up quickly. We'll see before the first game next season exactky what we are getting.
I did not see any of the QBs with weak arms out there. The out routes are definitely gonna get hit quickly.
I will now go put my shades on.
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I think back to last year and how Caudle looked in the spring game. In my armchair QB analysis I thought Caudle looked exactly the same last year. Caudle had won the job in my estimation last year and out of nowhere, the corches picked Todd. I'm just going to say that I think there's something to the limits they placed on Newton. 8 passes to 21 for Caudle? None on 1st down?
Look, Cam Newton was recruited by Florida for a reason. He got in games for UF for a reason. He was the fucking JUCO all world player of the year for a reason. He's got skillz out the ass and I don't give a ratz azz how you spin it...he's vastly superior to Chris Todd in every department. If our corches can't take a 6'6" 247 beast like this and make him an SEC QB, then I question them. Did anyone see his interview during the game? He said he doesn't want to run. He's in there to run the offense and pass. 8 passes and we're making a judgment? 8? Some of which were pretty damn good.
I say give the ball to Cam and let's move forward for 2 years. Fix the fucking defense and we'll be fine. Defense is the only thing I'm worried about.
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I did not see any of the QBs with weak arms out there.
I agree about Trotter, this kid is good. I really hope to him starting QB soon. This kid is a field general. I'm not sure I agree about Cam though. I wasn't at the game but I did catch comments from Chizik as I mentioned. Once I heard him say they were "trying to get a real good look on how Cameron handles the run game", I didn't expect to see much from Cam.
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Many thought that Rollinson had a shot at starting and it was rumored that Caudle would transfer while Trotter might fall out of sight after his knee injury last spring. A knee injury in high school actually slowed Caudle's progress too, but both battled back into the fray. Moseley has wondered if he made the right decision, all of them have since this hulk of a QB came to town.
And Cam's stature as a runner has to inspire quite a bit of confidence among his teamates as well as the staff considering the departure of Tate, multipurpose Mario with a recovered shoulder and the anticipated arrival of freshman Michael Dyer. This offense will require more than one back as Newton might be counted on as much for his durability as a runner behind a veteran line until a true ground game develops. This buys Auburn some time.
It would be hard for many two year starters to best a guy as large as Daunte Cullpepper that has above average speed. I'm not even sure about Newton's long ball yet but he has some touch when required. Cam might not read as well as we hope but when he comes out of the pocket a DB has to do a double take and figure out how to make a take down on this guy without looking like Deion Sanders.
As for the other QB's, I see a lot of promise in Moseley as a one day starter and feel very comfortable knowing that Caudle or Trotter can do the job, however I think Newton has a decided advantage and will be the guy come fall.
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As it always is, A-day is for the fans. It is never going to tell us much of anything, hell last year Caudle was the MVP, how was he at QB last year. It doesn't mean shit...never has. The only thing I took away as impressive was the vast V-A-S-T improvement of our WR's since Trooper has been there. I was highly impressed with Darvin and TZach as to be expected, but also Carr, who's speed on TV seemed to be faster than McCalebb.
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The only thing that stood out for me was it appears the AU logo on the helmet is much larger. Very strange.
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The only thing that stood out for me was it appears the AU logo on the helmet is much larger. Very strange.
I thought the same thing and forgot to mention it here. Anyone else notice that?
(http://www.auburnundercover.com/classes/image.php?i=767)
(http://photos.upi.com/slideshow/lbox/c819e1e45e9811cbef0b2a3c21583a81/AUBURN-LSU-FOOTBALL.jpg)
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Maybe it's the drugs, but I thought I noticed that the mow pattern of the grass was different.
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It's a Malzahn thing. Objects appear, disappear and morph at random.
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Maybe it's the drugs, but I thought I noticed that the mow pattern of the grass was different.
It was the drugs and the mow pattern.
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It was the drugs and the mow pattern.
Hence the 60k+ at A-Day this year.
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I thought it was neat Chizik wore an orange shirt the first half and a blue shirt the second.
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Maybe it's the drugs, but I thought I noticed that the mow pattern of the grass was different.
The grass cut was cool, maybe they were trying to tell you something.
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I thought it was neat Chizik wore an orange shirt the first half and a blue shirt the second.
I noticed that too. Chizik has gots some stylze.
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I noticed that too. Chizik has gots some stylze.
Unlike Saban with the powder blue suit and not a hint of Crimson or an Alabama logo, or anything whatsoever to indicate that he was coaching a football game for the Tahd.
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Unlike Saban with the powder blue suit and not a hint of Crimson or an Alabama logo, or anything whatsoever to indicate that he was coaching a football game for the Tahd.
Yes! I'm betting this suit is the same one he wore to his 10th grade Athletic Banquet. We all know he hasn't grown any since then.
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Unlike Saban with the powder blue suit and not a hint of Crimson or an Alabama logo, or anything whatsoever to indicate that he was coaching a football game for the Tahd.
(http://tigersx.com/images/dumbstupid.jpg)
Dumb and Dumber?
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(http://tigersx.com/images/dumbstupid.jpg)
Dumb and Dumber?
:thumsup:
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(http://tigersx.com/images/dumbstupid.jpg)
Dumb and Dumber?
FUCKING Dr. Pepper ALL over the screen.
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Mr. K,
That is a stunning work of genius and I applaud you, good sir. Cheery-o!
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Mr. K,
That is a stunning work of genius and I applaud you, good sir. Cheery-o!
Tis a work of beauty.
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(http://tigersx.com/images/dumbstupid.jpg)
Dumb and Dumber?
nice
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(http://tigersx.com/images/dumbstupid.jpg)
my new screensaver.
Btw, BK.....My Auburn Family shirt was the coolest at A-day. Bar none.
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my new screensaver.
Btw, BK.....My Auburn Family shirt was the coolest at A-day. Bar none.
Mine too...this one girl was like, awesome fuckin' shirt man. I thought she said she wanted to fuck me for my shirt and I thought...here in front of all these people??? This would be a first. So, I flopped it out. Well, needless to say, I realized quickly that she didn't say what I thought she did and....she couldn't handle the hammer.
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Yes! I'm betting this suit is the same one he wore to his 10th grade Athletic Banquet. We all know he hasn't grown any since then.
EPIC FAIL simp. We all know Saban has never played any sport but pocketball and checkers.
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EPIC FAIL simp. We all know Saban has never played any sport but pocketball and checkers.
Organized kickball for little people is a sport too.
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(http://tigersx.com/images/dumbstupid.jpg)
Dumb and Dumber?
This is award winning stuff right here....on par with Tuberville and the drill presser.
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$1 to you if you can incorporate their faces in here...
(http://www.zomgz0rz.com/brad/img/gif/dumb-and-dumber.gif)
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$1 to you if you can incorporate their faces in here...
(http://www.zomgz0rz.com/brad/img/gif/dumb-and-dumber.gif)
If that happens, it may qualify for best post of the year
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The only thing that stood out for me was it appears the AU logo on the helmet is much larger. Very strange.
http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2010/04/eagle-eyed_fans_spot_slight_di.html (http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2010/04/eagle-eyed_fans_spot_slight_di.html)
Eagle-eyed fans spot slight difference in Auburn helmet logo
By Evan Woodbery
April 20, 2010, 2:25PM
If you were one of the fans who noticed that the interlocking AU logo was slightly larger on the helmets Saturday, congratulations! You have really good eyes.
I didn't notice, but I got enough e-mails to ask the folks at Auburn about it. The logo is, in fact, slightly larger. The old one was about three inches; the new one is about five-eighths of an inch larger, I'm told. The logo painted on the field was also larger, but not as many people noticed it.
The larger logo is still in the testing phase, according to Scott Carr, an Auburn associate athletic director.
"With the new SEC televison contract increasing the amount of national exposure we receive, we wanted to see if a larger helmet decal would be more visible and thus enhance our brand," Carr said. "No decisions have been made on whether we will increase the actual size permanently."
So there you have it.
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our brand
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Really?
Off with his head.
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Really?
Off with his head.
Yeah, that did sound a bit generic didn't it. Like he is trying to sell rice crispy treats or something.
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Yeah, that did sound a bit generic didn't it. Like he is trying to sell rice crispy treats or something.
That too. I was thinking it made us sound more like the attention whores from West Vance.
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That too. I was thinking it made us sound more like the attention whores from West Vance.
I am damn proud of my University of Auburn logo...thank you very little.
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I am damn proud of my University of Auburn logo...thank you very little.
Your infatuation with all things Auburn are truly inspiring.
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Your infatuation with all things Auburn
Just the way things should be.
And damn sexy, IMHO. In my mind, all men should love Auburn.
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Just the way things should be.
And damn sexy, IMHO. In my mind, all men should love Auburn.
Ricky says HOWARSE-SHI-ATTE! Real men wear Crimson and White shakers with boat shoes. And threaten to kill refs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW1bJeqYdG0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW1bJeqYdG0#)
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Just the way things should be.
And damn sexy, IMHO. In my mind, all men should love Auburn.
My children are taught these fundamentals.
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_74ORY2uICKs/S8VQXN1gKuI/AAAAAAAACnA/mhX0FLPGCeE/s1600/4.14p+sanders.jpg)
#13 Craig Sanders (17-18 years old)
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#13 Craig Sanders (17-18 years old)
I love Tracy Rocker and I am not ashamed.
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#13 Craig Sanders (17-18 years old)
I love Tracy Rocker and I am not ashamed.
I've got a good idea of what Coach Rocker was saying at the time of the photo. "Fuckin' shit bird, hit dat mutha fuc...at away numba 13."
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I've got a good idea of what Coach Rocker was saying at the time of the photo. "Fuckin' shit bird, hit dat mutha fuc...at away numba 13."
Your posts make me cringe. Have you suffered a recent head injury?
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Your posts make me cringe. Have you suffered a recent head injury?
I have to agree with you on this one. Thats probably what Rocker said to Prowler after reading that post.
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Your posts make me cringe. Have you suffered a recent head injury?
Then you're a fuckin' pussy, because that's more than likely what Coach Rocker was saying. That's how he says it..."Fuckin' shit bird", "hit dat mutha fucka", "at away numba (whatever)".
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That's exactly what Coach Rock would say shitbird.
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Then you're a fuckin' pussy, because that's more than likely what Coach Rocker was saying. That's how he says it..."Fuckin' shit bird", "hit dat mutha fucka", "at away numba (whatever)".
Do you dribble and drool when you make those sounds? I think you do.
Seriously. Have you suffered some significant brain damage?
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Do you dribble and drool when you make those sounds? I think you do.
Seriously. Have you suffered some significant brain damage?
Keep making posts that have nothing to do with my posts or the original topic, that's your MO. I can't help you understand and I couldn't care less if you do, but that's exactly the way Coach Rocker talks on the practice field....you saying I'm suffering from some kind of brain damage really makes ZERO sense. I've seen three World's Fairs and Hog screwing, but I've never seen posts as retarded as yours. So, why don't you go hump someone else's leg muttface, before I push your's in.
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Do you dribble and drool when you make those sounds? I think you do.
Seriously. Have you suffered some significant brain damage?
I hate to agree with Prowler here...but I played on a team where Rock coached...and as dumb as it looks typed out, I am pretty sure Prowler nailed this one.
And unlike Prowler and Jumbo and a couple of others, I am not a fan of Rocker. I like him because he is a good coach at Auburn and was an all time great on the field, but I think he is a fucking prick. Or he at least acted like that to me...
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I hate to agree with Prowler here...but I played on a team where Rock coached...and as dumb as it looks typed out, I am pretty sure Prowler nailed this one.
And unlike Prowler and Jumbo and a couple of others, I am not a fan of Rocker. I like him because he is a good coach at Auburn and was an all time great on the field, but I think he is a fucking prick. Or he at least acted like that to me...
Ever occur to you that maybe you needed/need someone to be prick to you?
just sayin'.
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I hate to agree with Prowler here...but I played on a team where Rock coached...and as dumb as it looks typed out, I am pretty sure Prowler nailed this one.
And unlike Prowler and Jumbo and a couple of others, I am not a fan of Rocker. I like him because he is a good coach at Auburn and was an all time great on the field, but I think he is a fucking prick. Or he at least acted like that to me...
He's a fucking prick, but his d-line would run through a wall for him. His shitbird line makes me laugh so many years later.
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He's a fucking prick, but his d-line would run through a wall for him. His shitbird line makes me laugh so many years later.
Pretty sure "shit bird" was something he picked up from Wayne Hall. Although, I had a drill sgt. that used to call just about everyone shit bird at one time or another...so it's not that uncommon I don't guess.
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Pretty sure "shit bird" was something he picked up from Wayne Hall. Although, I had a drill sgt. that used to call just about everyone shit bird at one time or another...so it's not that uncommon I don't guess.
Hell, I studied with a knockout blonde at Auburn who called everyone "shitbird".
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"I can't believe you shot me, you poopbird"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niNY7PXQrVs&feature=related#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niNY7PXQrVs&feature=related#ws) (2:48 - 3:05 mark.......language and gratuitous violence warning)
:bar:
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Ever occur to you that maybe you needed/need someone to be prick to you?
just sayin'.
Possibly. But I was a little white walk-on, playing fucking wide receiver, that was less athletic than most of the players in my position, and that was only where I was because I worked 10 times as hard as anyone on the team. Not sure how I needed to be ignored when walked passed in the hall or not looked at when trying to ask him a direct question.
But whatever. Like I said, he is Auburn's coach now and players seem to like him so whatever works is fine with me.
Me, personally? I don't like him.
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Possibly. But I was a little white walk-on, playing fucking wide receiver, that was less athletic than most of the players in my position, and that was only where I was because I worked 10 times as hard as anyone on the team. Not sure how I needed to be ignored when walked passed in the hall or not looked at when trying to ask him a direct question.
But whatever. Like I said, he is Auburn's coach now and players seem to like him so whatever works is fine with me.
Me, personally? I don't like him.
Why does it always have to be about race with you people?
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Why does it always have to be about race with you people?
What do "you" mean you people?
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Possibly. But I was a little white walk-on, playing fucking wide receiver, that was less athletic than most of the players in my position, and that was only where I was because I worked 10 times as hard as anyone on the team. Not sure how I needed to be ignored when walked passed in the hall or not looked at when trying to ask him a direct question.
But whatever. Like I said, he is Auburn's coach now and players seem to like him so whatever works is fine with me.
Me, personally? I don't like him.
We're all real sorry Rock didn't give you the warm and fuzzies.
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We're all real sorry Rock didn't give you the warm and fuzzies.
This is funny.
Fuck you.
fuck it...not worth it...
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This is funny.
Fuck you.
fuck it...not worth it...
Whatever Greasy...and your secret I don't like coaches.
:haha:
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What do "you" mean you people?
What do YOU mean YOU people?
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What do YOU mean YOU people?
Pump yo brakes boy.
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Pump yo brakes boy.
I'm a national treasure.
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This is funny.
Fuck you.
fuck it...not worth it...
But you did take the time.
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Coach Rock is a racists fucker...but I'd run through a wall for that racist sumbitch. I understood where he stood, therefore I didn't ask him questions that didn't pertain to his coaching position. He and one of my HS Coaches and friend (former SPuat player NG Willie Wyatt) were really good friends and would send messages to each other through me, which was pretty fun. "Coach Rock, Coach Wyatt said you still slow and weak"..."Coach Wyatt, Coach Rock said that you still coaching in HS for a reason."
BTW, Coach Wyatt was a fuckin' bad ass too.