Its said that Cameron Newton will announce on Christmas Day between Auburn and Miss St. As far as I can tell he is a heavy AUburn lean, but who knows.Re: #1 JUCO prospect visiting Auburn
Re: #1 JUCO prospect visiting Auburn
« Reply #64 on: December 21, 2009, 07:12:18 PM »Newton will sign with Auburn. At one point he said he would sign his LOI with a school tomorrow.
Backtracking??
No. I still say he will sign with AUburn and I stand by that. The date has changed to Christmas day. Oklahoma is no longer in the picture.Just checking I'm starting a Newton for Heisman campain!
Still waiting on that BIG TIME commit before xmas, could it be Newton?Nope..try a few days later on CN.
It sounds like the Christmas day announcement has been canned. Daddy I guess wants a normal Christmas and is telling the Scouting services that the original date for next Tues or Wed. is still confirmed. More than likely Wed, since this is the New Years Eve that is being posted.You must be from the same skreets as me, lol. Word on the skreets is that the Newton family wants a normal Christmas in Georgia, and that Daddy Newton has put everyone on a gag order until the press conference on New Year's Eve.
You must be from the same skreets as me, lol. Word on the skreets is that the Newton family wants a normal Christmas in Georgia, and that Daddy Newton has put everyone on a gag order until the press conference on New Year's Eve.
New year's Eve now...
Whats your thoughts Chizad?I gotta believe we'll be happy with his decision, but I don't claim to know Jack Schitt.
Any chance we can start calling the "skreets" for what they are....Rivals, AuburnUndercover, Scout, etc? :poke:
Wow.....yall just can't stand it. I don't get all of my information from Rivals, Scout, AuburnUndercover, whatever, a lot of my information I receive from emails or texts. Now, I'm not sure if those people get their information of those websites, but I do know that there have been times when I've post info here before it was on either of the other sites. Therefore, the "Skreets" stay.
Emails or texts..... from Rivals or Scout.Nope or Nope
And... no.
Nope or Nope
And......Yeah. Sorry, fuckhead, the Skreets stays and "da skreets" have been correct more than your "inside sources"...so, in reality, your "sources" should go.
Kaos' "inside sources"...
:haha:
The Prowler's "Skreets"...
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Right....Yes he does. But, I'm not at work today, I took a week of vacation.
Does your boss know you drink at work?
Any chance we can start calling the "skreets" for what they are....Rivals, AuburnUndercover, Scout, etc? :poke:
I'm not sure why, but I kinda feel like he's going to go to Mississippi State. I think if he had announced right after his visit he would have gone with Auburn, but for some reason I feel like as time goes by, especially during a dead period, he'll fall back on his relationship with Mullen and end up there. I hope I'm wrong because I think adding him could only help us, even if he's a back up or just in-house competition....although I have a feeling he would start.
Guess we'll see New Years Eve? (so say the "skreets"....and all the other sites ;) )
I wasn't so much saying it's technically those sites, as I know many of you guys know people who know things (yes Kaos, perhaps even Prowler ;) ). I just said it because I always see the exact same information on those sites and on this site, and typically at nearly the exact same time.
It doesn't mean anything, it just means ultimately the rumors start from the one originating source and then make their way out to everyone through various means (Rivals, AUC, "da skreets" on here, a buddy in the athletic department, etc).
I put the :poke: icon because I was just poking fun.
Wow.....yall just can't stand it. I don't get all of my information from Rivals, Scout, AuburnUndercover, whatever, a lot of my information I receive from emails or texts. Now, I'm not sure if those people get their information of those websites, but I do know that there have been times when I've post info here before it was on either of the other sites. Therefore, the "Skreets" stay.I swear on all that is holy that I am NOT taking sides, but ironically enough, you posted "Da word on da skreets" about Meyer's resignation at the SAME EXACT TIME that the crawl came across the bottom of the screen during whatever football game was on ESPN the other night - I saw your thread title because I started my thread on the subject about 30 seconds before you did - and the thread you posted was immediately deleted when you saw I had beat you to it - and from subsequent posts, it was obvious you were watching ESPN just like I was.
I swear on all that is holy that I am NOT taking sides, but ironically enough, you posted "Da word on da skreets" about Meyer's resignation at the SAME EXACT TIME that the crawl came across the bottom of the screen during whatever football game was on ESPN the other night - I saw your thread title because I started my thread on the subject about 30 seconds before you did - and the thread you posted was immediately deleted when you saw I had beat you to it - and from subsequent posts, it was obvious you were watching ESPN just like I was.My friend, that lives in Gainsville, texted me about the resignation and that I'd hear about it "pretty soon"...I was watching the movie "UP" when he texted me. That's when I jumped on the Internet to find out what the hell was going on, only to find two more messages in my inbox with the last one telling me that ESPN is talking about it. That's when I posted about it on The X, because, at the time, there wasn't a post about it (probably because you were posting about it at about the same time that I was).
So one would be lead to assume that ESPN lives on your skreets.
My friend, that lives in Gainsville, texted me about the resignation and that I'd hear about it "pretty soon"...I was watching the movie "UP" when he texted me. That's when I jumped on the Internet to find out what the hell was going on, only to find two more messages in my inbox with the last one telling me that ESPN is talking about it. That's when I posted about it on The X, because, at the time, there wasn't a post about it (probably because you were posting about it at about the same time that I was).Again, not taking sides - just an observation...
My friend, that lives in Gainsville, texted me about the resignation and that I'd hear about it "pretty soon"...I was watching the movie "UP" when he texted me. That's when I jumped on the Internet to find out what the hell was going on, only to find two more messages in my inbox with the last one telling me that ESPN is talking about it. That's when I posted about it on The X, because, at the time, there wasn't a post about it (probably because you were posting about it at about the same time that I was).
Prowler's cat is wired for the skreets.Nope....no plea for legitimacy here and if you're calling "da skreets" as ultimate failure, you might want to re-check all of the times that it has been correct. Everyone will be awaiting your next post about the legitimacy of "da skreets" and you backing up the statement that it's an ultimate failure.
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BTW, I'm not taking sides either, I'm just chuckling in amusement at the depth of the plea for legitimacy -- and its ultimate failure.
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Everyone will be awaiting your next post about the legitimacy of "da skreets" and you backing up the statement that it's an ultimate failure.
To be fair to Kaos on your challenge to get him to find bad information, I don't think he's so much questioning if your skreets are right or wrong, but if the information your skreets produces is unique to the skreets, and is in fact "insider"...or if it's the same as (as TigerWench impartially pointed out) ESPN, etc.
I'm not actually taking sides either, as I mentioned earlier, I know some of you guys do know people that know things and are closer to the root of a lot of the information that comes out.
Uniqueness or promptness of the information aside, the skreets are at least good for discussion.
In case anyone is wondering, for the record, I gotz no skreets...
But I read the shit out of Rivals...
And I say CN is ours...
He looks like one of my cats.
The thing about cats is, that by admitting to owning one or more, you've basically announced to everyone that you have a box of poop in your house.
The thing about cats is, that by admitting to owning one or more, you've basically announced to everyone that you have a box of poop in your house.
As someone once pointed out to me, some things are said and should be taken as "tongue in cheek". Some people live by it and even fail to recognize it. Myself at times...When somebody mentions it nearly every other post, its not really tongue in cheek. I mean, is it really that hard to say "per ESPN" or "according to some message boards", etc? But, I forgot, Prowler knows things and has somebody on the inside. According to him, anyways.
Just a thought...
I know things rws....Damn, you'd thought that by now
Anyone could go and look at the player's profile, that isn't reserved for premium members. But, knowing when or who's going to commit to where is...unless you know someone that's on the "inside"....*cough* *cough*
When somebody mentions it nearly every other post, its not really tongue in cheek. I mean, is it really that hard to say "per ESPN" or "according to some message boards", etc? But, I forgot, Prowler knows things and has somebody on the inside. According to him, anyways.
Yeah, cause if I knew it got under your skin that much, I'd certainly stop for sure....right? Think about it two seconds...It doesn't really get under my skin when he says it either, I just think its stupid to make yourself out to be something that you aren't. Just like in the Urban Meyer thread, where "da skreets" were saying that Dan Mullen was a done deal and would be announced within a week or so. And the statement was made while taunting Kaos, for that matter. But hey, he's the one who looks stupid when it comes to be that Meyer is just going to take a leave, thus showing Prowler doesn't know dick other than what he reads on message boards, Rivals, and AUC. Its just stupid to try and be something you aren't, especially on the internet.
It doesn't really get under my skin when he says it either, I just think its stupid to make yourself out to be something that you aren't. Just like in the Urban Meyer thread, where "da skreets" were saying that Dan Mullen was a done deal and would be announced within a week or so. And the statement was made while taunting Kaos, for that matter. But hey, he's the one who looks stupid when it comes to be that Meyer is just going to take a leave, thus showing Prowler doesn't know dick other than what he reads on message boards, Rivals, and AUC. Its just stupid to try and be something you aren't, especially on the internet.
Yeah. It gets under your skin.Call it whatever you want to. I just think its a stupid thing to do. And if you think he does it JUST to get under my skin, then you must have missed the thread about the Big Cat Weekend penalties being announced. Or, you're just as delusional as he is. Oh, wait.....
Call it whatever you want to. I just think its a stupid thing to do. And if you think he does it JUST to get under my skin, then you must have missed the thread about the Big Cat Weekend penalties being announced. Or, you're just as delusional as he is. Oh, wait.....
"Oh, wait"... Whatever dude.And if you think it has ANYTHING to do with me or Kaos, then my previous statement still stands.
...Seriously, there ISSS a reason he keeps pushing it in your face (and Kaos's for that matter). Figure it out, or don't. Has nothing to do with me. I'll leave you to keep bitching and moaning about it..you know... cause it doesn't bother you and all.
And if you think it has ANYTHING to do with me or Kaos, then my previous statement still stands.
Yeah. You're right. He makes sure he pushes it in ALL of our faces. He doesn't seem to go after you two more than others at all.
What was I thinkin... :bc:
Again, not taking sides, but I think Prowler is dead serious about his skreets. He does like to push that fact at Kaos and RWS, but it's not in the "tongue in cheek) way you're implying.
You're saying he knows he gets his information from Rivals, Scout, ESPN, etc and only calls it "da skreets" to annoy Kaos and RWS? I don't believe that for a second. I think he is completely serious about knowing things others don't know, calls it the skreets, aaaannnnnd pushes it in the face of Kaos and RWS.
He doesn't push anything anywhere with me.
No comment on what Chopper's **** *** looks like with his perpetual inability to accurately comprehend anything going on around him.
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Nice cast. Lots of arm action. You got it way out there that time. :thumbsup:
Right. Because I mentioned your name first. **** ***.
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What we have here is a failure to comprehend. Yes, I know I said communicate in the movie, but there's no doubt comprehension is -- as always -- the problem here. This boy scored a two on the reading comprehension part of the ACT. He would have scored a three, but he bubbled his last name in the address block and marked both male and female on the gender question. He claims he meant he was a male looking for females, but we got our questions about that. Let's just say comprehension ain't his strong suit.
Right. Because I mentioned your name first. **** ***.
***BAIT ALERT***No comment on what Chopper's **** *** looks like with his perpetual inability to accurately comprehend anything going on around him. ***BAIT ALERT***
Hey, Captain Comprehension. YOU, not me, started the name calling (as usual). I just pointed out that he gets under your skin (which he CLEARLY does). YOU, as usual went directly to "dumb ass" and name calling. So...again... Yeah, when you posted the following... It was bait.
I'm not going to out my sources, but I have it on good authority from a very reliable inside member of the skreets that everything Chopper has said about Prowler playing up the skreets thing solely to fuck with Kaos & RWS is 100% accurate.
Bait.
Another word Chopper fails to comprehend.
And in the words of Dwight Schrute, I'm turning the shunning back on.
Remember when you asked me about shit in the box?I predicted this response. And I'm never wrong with my predictions.
Question answered, Porthos.
I predicted this response. And I'm never wrong with my predictions.
Just sayin, I've recieved numerous PMs chuckling at how certain posters melt down in response to him using the term. You're prime target.
Right. Okay.
I hear ya. We've ALL heard this gem before. You love to dish it, but you CAN'T and will NOT take it. It will take virtually NOTHING to drop the shunning and have you ranting and raving as usual. Don't be dishonest here. You know you will.
Just sayin' I've received numerous PMs chuckling at how ignorant he looks when he keeps pushing it and snickering at him being goaded. So the sword has two edges. The targeted is the targetee.
If he's doing it for that reason, he should know that a) it's a fail because all it gets him is mocked and b) it's a fail because it just makes him look silly to the 95% of the people who don't get it.
For the record? The prodding of Chopper has its fans, too, as tiresome as that gets to me. I do requests.
** Shun off **
I'll take anything a worthy adversary can dish.
Consider that for a minute. Or more.
** Shun on **
What does any of this have to do with the latest and greatest on Newton? I really don't care who you guys are blowing or what site you pay to get recruiting info. At least start a different thread to bitch about this shit so you don't waste other people time on reading this shit. Assholes.Another fan has spoken.
What does any of this have to do with the latest and greatest on Newton? I really don't care who you guys are blowing or what site you pay to get recruiting info. At least start a different thread to bitch about this shit so you don't waste other people time on reading this shit. Assholes.
This is also your failure, because you've made it clear that it bothers you (RWS as well), and knowing Prowler personally, I know he doesn't give two shits about what other people think. So you ranting and raving and paying it attention, is YOUR failure. Not his in that respect.
Yeah. I get the messages too. Texts, calls...etc... etc... Sorry, but you're not as special as you think you are.
Also, the bolded is: :bs:
:bs: ....again.
Shun fail.
In one post you mention blowing, bitch AND assholes.
Are you in prison or is this just an interest of yours? :fag:
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Comprehend fail:
"Bothers me" and "Think it's Stupid" are not equivalent. All I've made clear is that I think it's laughable (and that he is making himself look ridiculous in the process). So you failed to comprehend that.
I also really like your classic Pee Wee Herman "I know you are, but what am I" defense. Par for your typical course. Please follow with "coming from you" so that the circle will be complete and you can fail the irony litmus test again.
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I'd say Newton is 5% Oklahoma, 47.5% MSU, and 47.5% Auburn.
Anything could happen. I know, genius statement.
No, learned all of it at a KISS concert.
Good point and I would be willing to bet that has a small play in his decision but in the end this kid wants to be the starting QB, and have a chance at the NFL. In my opinion, his chances are better at AUburn at this point.
Is is just me or does anybody else have any trouble following the concept ofI use the pg dn key on my computer, makes my life better.
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It's pretty self explanatory.
Oh, I forgot. Comprehension.... yeah.... nevermind.
I tend to agree, but in reality, and he may realize this, if you can play the position, they will take you. The team around you and the stats they help you produce don't mean much to the NFL these days.
Think of guys at both extremes. You have Graham Harrell who didn't get drafted after throwing for over 15,000 yds and 134 TDS. Then you have guys like Joe Flacco that played at Delaware or Tony Romo who played at Eastern Illinois.
Ultimately, in my opinion, his NFL status wouldn't be helped or hurt at either school. Hopefully he doesn't feel that way though. Hopefully he thinks he needs to go for the best stats he can get, which, after seeing that Chris Todd set Auburn passing records, would lead him to us.
What does any of this have to do with the latest and greatest on Newton? I really don't care who you guys are blowing or what site you pay to get recruiting info. At least start a different thread to bitch about this poop so you don't waste other people time on reading this poop. buttholes.
You forgot Rothlisberger.
How many of the starting QBs in the NFL played at "big time" schools?
Vince Young? He's sort of a major bust. JaDumbass Russell (to whom I've heard this Newton kid compared, ugh...)? Significant bust. Jason Campbell? Jury still out. All quarterbacked successful, national title-esque teams.
Palmer, Cassell and Sanchez from USC? Meh on all.
Brees and Orton are both from Purdue. What the phuk is a Purdue?
Eli Manning? Labored at a crappy Ole Miss program. Done well in the NFL. McNabb played at Syracuse in 1973. Not exactly a powerhouse.
It's really kind of a crapshoot. You don't even have to be on a successful team to be a successful NFL QB. But there's never, ever been one from Mississippi State. That's a factor (and I love the Bulldogs second best).
There isn't a thread on this site that stays on topic. Well, unless it's about dogs.
So stop trying to ruin my entertainment.
Is is just me or does anybody else have any trouble following the concept of
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It's pretty self explanatory.
Oh, I forgot. Comprehension.... yeah.... nevermind.
Here you go though Capt. "Comprehension":
shun /ʃʌn/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [shuhn]
–verb (used with object), shunned, shun⋅ning. to keep away from (a place, person, object, etc.), from motives of dislike, caution, etc.; take pains to avoid.
Complete utter failure on your end... just drop the "shun" gig, nobody believes you're capable of it.
You take everything (particularly yourself) waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay (way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way) too seriously.
He only does it because it gets under your skin. At least, thats what somebody told me one time......
Here you go though Capt. "Comprehension":
shun /ʃʌn/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [shuhn]
–verb (used with object), shunned, shun⋅ning. to keep away from (a place, person, object, etc.), from motives of dislike, caution, etc.; take pains to avoid.
Complete utter failure on your end... just drop the "shun" gig, nobody believes you're capable of it.
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Sorry... :rofl:
Ample proof that you've never understood the first fucking thing around here.
Ample.
Christ, dude, even the Bammers get it, but you plod relentlessly on.
Unreal.
HAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA..................
OH man... You got to warn me first when you do this comedy shit..... Throwing the "bammers" bit in there was priceless....
Because you take yourself seriously and completely lack simple self-awareness.
You know, it's sleeting outside.
You know, it's sleeting outside.Sweet....
JaDumbass Russell (to whom I've heard this Newton kid compared, ugh...)? Significant bust.
But, don't let facts get in your way of making yourself stupid. Just remember, you should never go full retard.Practice what you preach.
Sweet....
Kaos:
Donovan had a really good receiver to throw to while quarterbacking the Orangemen of Syracuse as a redshirt freshman in '95 (Marvin Harrison)...Also he played for them in '95-'98, he redshirted in '94, not in '73. Don't forget about a couple of other players (Dwight Freeney and Keith Bulluck). So, Syracuse was actually pretty damn good during McNabb's time.
Purdue Boilermakers were actually pretty good too.
And...I'm guessing that if Cameron Newton does decide to sign with Auburn then you'll never be in his corner and you'll probably state that if he ever starts for Auburn, then we're in deep trouble (much like you do with every QB on Auburn's roster) just because some have compared him to Jamarcus Russell.
But, don't let facts get in your way of making yourself stupid. Just remember, you should never go full retard.
like *******2.0 take everything literally and just don't appreciate the art of subtlety, self deprecation or humor.
Practice what you preach.I usually stick to the facts, fuckin' dork. Here's a fact for ya....
I usually stick to the facts, fuckin' dork. Here's a fact for ya....
Nebraska's defensive coaches spoke at length to Coach Sheban, Sheban was asking them about what they did to, basically, shut down the Texas offense.....Hmmm, I thought I had heard that "the great one" was above asking other coaches how to attack another team.
Blah, blah, blah.....appreciate the art of self deprecation.What you do behind closed doors, is your business.
The unfortunate answer for Saban was.... "Go get a Suh. Good luck."Lol, it was more like..."you can borrow our front four, LMAO. Good luck. Another thing...wear a fuckin' bra."
http://auburnundercover.com/news/articles/2009/12/28/recruiting-rewind-dec-28-quarterback-plans-thursday-announcement
Quarterback Cam Newton, as best we can tell, is seriously set on making his decision known on Thursday.
Newton, a Florida transfer who led Blinn (Texas) College to the junior college national championship, has apparently eliminated Oklahoma and will apparently choose between Auburn and Mississippi State.
I usually stick to the facts, fuckin' dork. Here's a fact for ya....A "fact" that you can't prove beyond what you hear beyond whatever message boards you lurk/post on. Yes, Prowler, I'm certain our coaches are totally incapable of gameplanning against a team on their own. I'm sure they had to consult somebody to beat every team we played this season. Anyway, I think our coaches can gameplan just fine by themselves. I don't really see why they would seek the input of a team that lost to Iowa State, a school nobody can win at. I doubt our coaches got the team to a 25-2 record the past two years by tugging on the coat tails of other coaches for some scraps every game.
Nebraska's defensive coaches spoke at length to Coach Sheban, Sheban was asking them about what they did to, basically, shut down the Texas offense.....Hmmm, I thought I had heard that "the great one" was above asking other coaches how to attack another team.
A "fact" that you can't prove beyond what you hear beyond whatever message boards you lurk/post on. Yes, Prowler, I'm certain our coaches are totally incapable of gameplanning against a team on their own. I'm sure they had to consult somebody to beat every team we played this season. Anyway, I think our coaches can gameplan just fine by themselves. I don't really see why they would seek the input of a team that lost to Iowa State, a school nobody can win at. I doubt our coaches got the team to a 25-2 record the past two years by tugging on the coat tails of other coaches for some scraps every game.
Oh, and just so you know, if AU wins against Northwestern, its because AU's coaches consulted heavily with Michigan State's coaches to figure out how to stop them.
A "fact" that you can't prove beyond what you hear beyond whatever message boards you lurk/post on......I don't really see why they would seek the input of a team that lost to Iowa State, a school nobody can win at. I doubt our coaches got the team to a 25-2 record the past two years by tugging on the coat tails of other coaches for some scraps every game.No one said that your coaches tugged on the coat tails of other coaching staffs for EVERY game. No one, just you...being a fuckin' Drama Queen.
No one said that your coaches tugged on the coat tails of other coaching staffs for EVERY game. No one, just you...being a fuckin' Drama Queen.That didn't happen
I guess Carl Pelini telling ESPN that they had spoken at length to Coach Sheban and having ESPN talk about it during the Nebraska raping of Arizona just isn't enough...is it?
No one said that your coaches tugged on the coat tails of other coaching staffs for EVERY game. No one, just you...being a fuckin' Drama Queen.Nebraska's secret: blitz the fuck out of Texas' OL. Wow. Amazing. They didn't do anything special except get pressure on the QB. And no, I didn't catch anywhere in that game where they were talking about Nebraska's coaches helping Alabama's gameplan.
I guess Carl Pelini telling ESPN that they had spoken at length to Coach Sheban and having ESPN talk about it during the Nebraska raping of Arizona just isn't enough...is it?
Nebraska's secret: blitz the fuck out of Texas' OL. Wow. Amazing. They didn't do anything special except get pressure on the QB. And no, I didn't catch anywhere in that game where they were talking about Nebraska's coaches helping Alabama's gameplan.
Nebraska's secret: blitz the fuck out of Texas' OL. Wow. Amazing. They didn't do anything special except get pressure on the QB. And no, I didn't catch anywhere in that game where they were talking about Nebraska's coaches helping Alabama's gameplan.Nebraska didn't blitz Texas, that much. Their front four were the ones that got the pressure on Colt all night...some of them were coverage sacks. And yes they did talk about Coach Sheban begging the Nebraska defensive coaches to hand over information...Third Quarter.
Nebraska didn't blitz Texas, that much. Their front four were the ones that got the pressure on Colt all night...some of them were coverage sacks. And yes they did talk about Coach Sheban begging the Nebraska defensive coaches to hand over information...Third Quarter.
Saban was begging coaches to hand over information. Bullpoop.
Did they talk? Wouldn't surprise me. Coach Bob Stoops was in Tuscaloosa for a practice in the last week. Stoops also met with Saban before the season started. Saban and Pete Carrol met before the season started. It isn't uncommon for coaches to speak about strategies.
But to imply that ANY professional coach at any level of competition is begging another coaching staff to hand over information is first class bullpoop. And it sounds completely phuking ridiculous to make such a claim with ZERO first hand information.
I hope Newton -- if he commits, signs, qualifies and emerges as a possible starter -- turns out well. I feel better about him than I ever did about Rollison.
I don't like the comparisons to Russell but don't think they're entirely accurate anyway.
Saban was begging coaches to hand over information. Bullpoop.Yes, he begged for information...Begged I say, even offering up his first born. :rolleyes:
Did they talk? Wouldn't surprise me. Coach Bob Stoops was in Tuscaloosa for a practice in the last week. Stoops also met with Saban before the season started. Saban and Pete Carrol met before the season started. It isn't uncommon for coaches to speak about strategies.
But to imply that ANY professional coach at any level of competition is begging another coaching staff to hand over information is first class bullpoop. And it sounds completely phuking ridiculous to make such a claim with ZERO first hand information.
Yes, he begged for information...Begged I say, even offering up his first born. :rolleyes:That insider info, plain and simple...
That insider info, plain and simple...Yup, directly from the next skreet over, so...TIFWIW.
Nebraska's secret: blitz the phuk out of Texas' OL. Wow. Amazing. They didn't do anything special except get pressure on the QB. And no, I didn't catch anywhere in that game where they were talking about Nebraska's coaches helping Alabama's gameplan.
That was from the 28th, on the 29th is when the dad said the press conference for Thursday was off for now. He said they were still looking over everything.
He ended it with..."But we will give everyone 48 hours notice of when and where the press conference will be. Once that happens, we will put on a gag order until Cam announces."
They could still do it today, but it would be a surprise based on what the dad just said on Tuesday. My guess is that they announce today that the press conference will be Saturday (48 hours notice). Who knows, I just hope we get him, today or Saturday or whenever.
Nebraska didn't blitz Texas, that much. Their front four were the ones that got the pressure on Colt all night...some of them were coverage sacks. And yes they did talk about Coach Sheban begging the Nebraska defensive coaches to hand over information...Third Quarter.This is exactly why I went to the line of comments I went to in the first place. I've heard plenty of your bullshit over time, and I knew EXACTLY where you were about to go with that. Thats fine if they talked. Lots of coaches do, even I myself have said that. But BEGGING them to hand over information? You're full of shit. Oh, but I bet it was actually said tongue in cheek. So, you actually didn't mean it. Right?
But BEGGING them to hand over information? You're full of shit. Oh, but I bet it was actually said tongue in cheek. So, you actually didn't mean it. Right?Holy Shit...are you really that fucking stupid??
Holy Shit...are you really that fucking stupid??I promise that you are.
I promise that you are.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4Gj7JsET4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4Gj7JsET4#)
For those interested, I was told to watch ESPN at 5 pm EST (I think EST), that AUburn fans would be pleased.5pm ET would put it at the Halftime of the Texas Bowl (Navy v. Missouri).
OK, it's 4:15 central time (5:15 eastern). What happened?
OK, it's 4:15 central time (5:15 eastern). What happened?Lou Holtz was talking about the firing of Mike Leach.
Oklahoma committed a personal foul and gave stanford a first down.I've been watching the 3 Stooges marathon on AMC. Moe hit Curly on the head with a sledehammer. I've always admired his management skill.
Just sayin
(http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr185/johnofbham/the-three-stooges-football.jpg)Of course not......
Could it be the holder's fault?
Of course not......Interesting. Anytime an AU prospect or commit has a bad performance, any excuse can be found to smooth it over. If it were an Alabama prospect or commit, there would be post after post talking about how he sucks. They mentioned him missing alot and said the holds looked fine, so maybe he was having an off day. Maybe the holder was using his jedi mind tricks. Maybe Parkey farted right after the ball was snapped.
Interesting. Anytime an AU prospect or commit has a bad performance, any excuse can be found to smooth it over. If it were an Alabama prospect or commit, there would be post after post talking about how he sucks. They mentioned him missing alot and said the holds looked fine, so maybe he was having an off day. Maybe the holder was using his jedi mind tricks. Maybe Parkey farted right after the ball was snapped.I agree that Cody was a little off yesterday. But, you do realize that it doesn't take that much to cause the kick to be a little off, a slight tilt will cause the kick to be off...and that's when the Snapper (Dakota Moseley) and the Placekick Holder are in sync. If they aren't in sync, then that will throw the kicker's timing off, usually causing the kicks to be off.
First thing, this was Cody Parkey's first time to kick not using a block. Secondly, they had two days to practice the timing between the snapper, the holder and the kicker.
Did any of the other kickers get extra practice time? If not, did they have any problems? I didn't see the game so I don't know, but that looks like major league spinning. I mean, if all the other kickers have same practice time and didn't have those problems, I don't really see how that could even be considered. Unless you're agreeing that he may be worse than the other kickers.
I agree that Cody was a little off yesterday. But, you do realize that it doesn't take that much to cause the kick to be a little off, a slight tilt will cause the kick to be off...and that's when the Snapper (Dakota Moseley) and the Placekick Holder are in sync. If they aren't in sync, then that will throw the kicker's timing off, usually causing the kicks to be off.
The 1st FG attempt was tipped at the line. The 2nd was misshandled by the Placekick Holder causing him to pick the ball up and try to run it. The 3rd was off because of the snap by Dakota and the hold being off sync, causing Cody to check up before he attempted the kick. All of those issues are very, very easy to correct.
First thing, this was Cody Parkey's first time to kick not using a block. Secondly, they had two days to practice the timing between the snapper, the holder and the kicker.
Say what you want Token, but actually being at the game (as I was), it was CLEAR that Parkey, the holder and snapper were having timing issues. He stutter started several times.
He came out just before the second half and was roping some kicks from 45-55... Out of about 7 that he kicked, he missed one.
If Parkey has issues, the game on Saturday isn't going to tell you why.
Oh dear God.
If Prowler says the kid got sparkle chips in his eyes from the too-fresh paint on his helmet you can bank on Chopper riding up on his broke-down mule to provide support. He was THERE. He SAW the sparkle chips fall into his field of vision, you dumbass.
Is that anything like the pixie dust strippers give off?
Very similar. Also very hard to remove from clothes.
Oh dear God.
If Prowler says the kid got sparkle chips in his eyes from the too-fresh paint on his helmet you can bank on Chopper riding up on his broke-down mule to provide support. He was THERE. He SAW the sparkle chips fall into his field of vision, you dumbass.
Yeah. Since I was there, I shouldn't say anything about what I saw when directly talking with Token...
I hear ya though.... good one. Sparkle chips...nice. :thumbsup:
No, we've already established that anything personally witnessed is worthless. You set those ground rules yourself.
No, we've already established that anything personally witnessed is worthless. You set those ground rules yourself.
You also clearly established a pattern of rushing to Prowler's defense no matter how stupid his position (and he to yours). Therefore anything you say related to this topic -- regardless of the validity -- is rendered irrelevant. Even if 100% accurate, the taint of bias destroys the impact of anything you may or may not have observed.
So you've personally witnessed Tyrik Rollison? Oh...NO? Okay. We're done with that BS assertion and mischaracterization of my argument against you there.
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Taint no arguing ta do till we see 'em both play.
You also clearly established a pattern of rushing to Prowler's defense no matter how stupid his position (and he to yours). Therefore anything you say related to this topic -- regardless of the validity -- is rendered irrelevant. Even if 100% accurate, the taint of bias destroys the impact of anything you may or may not have observed.
You don't even know what you're talking about any more.
We already did. And one of them stunk it up.
You might not have seen this Token... Kaos had to play around and it got buried...
Say what you want Token, but actually being at the game (as I was), it was CLEAR that Parkey, the holder and snapper were having timing issues. He stutter started several times.
He came out just before the second half and was roping some kicks from 45-55... Out of about 7 that he kicked, he missed one.
If Parkey has issues, the game on Saturday isn't going to tell you why.
You might not have seen this Token... Kaos had to play around and it got buried...
Say what you want Token, but actually being at the game (as I was), it was CLEAR that Parkey, the holder and snapper were having timing issues. He stutter started several times.
He came out just before the second half and was roping some kicks from 45-55... Out of about 7 that he kicked, he missed one.
If Parkey has issues, the game on Saturday isn't going to tell you why.
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The only pattern that's been established is that you can't handle me posting. If I post something. ANYTHING. You're there to try and debunk it, make fun of it, or egg me into an argument.
Just stop.
Go ahead. Spin. You have NOT seen Tyrik Rollison in person. THAT was the debate you're drudging up. You said he will never....blah blah blah. We've all seen it. However, you'd NEVER seen him. Bringing THAT debate up, because I personally watched Parkey on Saturday is just stupid.
However, go ahead and do it... You know you're going to
Kicking in pregame is different than kicking from a snap with people in front of you.
Maybe Cody just had a bad day. I'm just saying the "they didn't have enough time to practice" excuse is pure spin when they got the same amount of time as everyone else. What's good for one is good for the other, unless one isn't as good as other.
With that said, Tiffin looked like the worst kicker in the history of kickers his freshman season against Arky. He turned out pretty good. Well, except for and extra point here and there.
We're on the same page. I think some are taking a bad game and turning it into "he must suck". He was making great contact on Saturday. Not using the practice excuse, or at least I wasn't. Even though some have tried to make it sound that way.:rofl:
The timing was off. It sucked. I don't think that translates to Parkey exclusively. My opinion is all....
See? This is what I've been saying for a while now. You just proved it.
You don't see or hear anything but the buzzing between your own ears. You make something up, decide how it applies and then run with it. What was actually said is of no consequence to you, because you're charging ahead trying to butt down imaginary windmills with your head.
You don't have any idea what you're talking about. Nobody said a word about Rollison. Your ass is chapped because I said he wasn't going to be the alpha-omega some (two) of you tried to spin him into being and now that he's gotten himself in trouble and another recruit may be taking the reins, you're pissed at Kaos for being "right." ** Poor you.
What you're trying to do here is just silly. Nobody brought Rollison into the discussion but you.
** For the record, I am not claiming to have been right about my general feeling on Rollison. Merely pointing out that the illusion of rightness (which has not come close to being determined yet) is what has Chop's ass in a knit.
Yawn.
1. Yes. Who here didn't see your assertions about Rollison and know directly that was what you were saying when you pulled up that nugget about seeing them in person. It's the ONLY reason you said that about me saying I saw Parkey in person. It's the argument I used against you when you refused to say WHY Rollison would be a failure, or at least "NEVER" be the man at AU. That's why Rollison came up. Nice try though...
2. I, in no way shape or form, claimed Rollison to be a guaranteed success. No matter how many times you make it up and say I did. It's just a lie.
1. Tyrick Rollison did not enter my mind. Unless you have some advanced electronics capable of reading people's thoughts... well...
You made that up. Manifestation of your own inferiority complex.
And moving on...
Is that anything like the pixie dust strippers give off?
Very similar. Also very hard to remove from clothes.
You just need practice my young padawan learner.
ALWAYS keep a lint roller in your vehicle.
I do love stripper glitter.
Strippers have a smell that is uniquely their own. Nothing else like it in the world.
No, we've already established that anything personally witnessed is worthless. You set those ground rules yourself.
You also clearly established a pattern of rushing to Prowler's defense no matter how stupid his position (and he to yours). Therefore anything you say related to this topic -- regardless of the validity -- is rendered irrelevant. Even if 100% accurate, the taint of bias destroys the impact of anything you may or may not have observed.
Did any of the other kickers get extra practice time? If not, did they have any problems? I didn't see the game so I don't know, but that looks like major league spinning. I mean, if all the other kickers have same practice time and didn't have those problems, I don't really see how that could even be considered. Unless you're agreeing that he may be worse than the other kickers.
"I heard Foster's special teams coach tell him today that if he keeps kicking the ball 15 yards or more deep into the endzone, that he will not have to talk to him the rest of the week," said Every. "One of his kickoffs hit the crossbars of the goalpost. He is a huge kid physically. His natural leg strength is overpowering."
Word on the Rivals skreets is, Cade Foster will most likely take over the #1 ranking for kickers after this weeks All-American game.Hmmm....wonder why that might happen? One game, equals automatic jump...LMAO.
Hmmm....wonder why that might happen? One game, equals automatic jump...LMAO.
Hmmm....wonder why that might happen? One game, equals automatic jump...LMAO.
Every says the high school all-star games are one of the few opportunities where analyst are able to watch and grade recruits in person, together.So...those rumors coming from SPuat fans, correct? LMAO.
Parkey didn't impress, where Foster has. Every admits that he'll have to see Foster in game action, but leg strength wise, Foster is the best in the 2010 class.
Doesn't mean that it will happen, but after one day of practice, the Rivals analysts are already talking. Also, another rumor on the rivals skreets says that Keenan Allen may be ranked the #1 player in the nation before signing day.
Even if Chop or myself are 100% accurate, you're just going to go ahead and say it's "pa-fucking-thetic"? :thumbsup:
One day in some alternate reality or anti-matter universe, we might get to find out what i'd do. I'm not looking for it in this lifetime, however.I vote for a name change for ^^This Guy^^.....
Yours and his ridiculous spinning and whitewashing and explaining away in this topic has been really, really, really sad.
The one thing I hate more than anything is letting Bama fans make Auburn fans look ridiculous. The two of you.... wow.
Also, another rumor on the rivals skreets says that Keenan Allen may be ranked the #1 player in the nation before signing day.
One day in some alternate reality or anti-matter universe, we might get to find out what i'd do. I'm not looking for it in this lifetime, however.
Yours and his ridiculous spinning and whitewashing and explaining away in this topic has been really, really, really sad.
The one thing I hate more than anything is letting Bama fans make Auburn fans look ridiculous. The two of you.... wow.
You haven't offered ONE piece of "on-topic" discussion. Go fuck yourself.
I've heard this, and I think that decision would be very telling of the way Rivals evaluates prospects. I don't mean the "conspiracy" theories. I think Rivals is very inconsistent in the way they decide who is the top prospects and who isn't.
Don't get me wrong. Keenan Allen is a stud and will contribute on special teams and have a back up role next year. However, Seantrel Henderson builds a program. A stud left tackle is like getting a five star quarterback. You expect to build the offense around him. He could go anywhere in the country and compete for the starting job immediately. You don't remove the #1 ranking just because some skill player is making highlights during practice.
Also, Ronald Powell and the Okawindmebeuqegue kid are phenoms at the DE position. They have more of a case for being the #1 prospect. Those two kids will make an immediate impact at the next level and are as close to sure-things as you can get. Whoever gets them will have an immediate upgrade in the pass defense. Can't say the same for a safety.
Just my two cents.
Recruiting rankings have really gone the way of popular culture. Half of it is a popularity contest.Heidi was Lauren's Bff until Spencer ruined everything.
There are great actors who get rightful kudos -- Robert Downey, Jr. -- and then there are those who are famous for little else than being famous -- Heidi and Spencer (i still have no idea who either of them are).
Again with the comprehension problems.Still adding nothing of substance....*sigh*
You and your pal are hopeless. Absolutely hopeless.
Giving up now.
So...those rumors coming from SPuat fans, correct? LMAO.
So, since AU is taking Newton, one would assume Rollison probably isn't in the picture anymore, for whatever reason. If that is the case, will Chizik get a pass for him "not working out"? Some here have piled on CTT for guys who didn't work out talent-wise, medical issues, and guys who he had to cut loose for discipline/academics later. All of which are pretty hard to predict a few years down the road. However, Chizik got a pass on Aubrey Phillips who transfered to AU, then two weeks later was gone. And for that matter, it was already documented by one program that he had an issue. If Chizik gets a pass for not being able to see two weeks, or a year into the future, why doesn't CTT get a pass? I understand that the whole Rollison situation is hypothetical, but more than likely logical.
So, since AU is taking Newton, one would assume Rollison probably isn't in the picture anymore, for whatever reason. If that is the case, will Chizik get a pass for him "not working out"? Some here have piled on CTT for guys who didn't work out talent-wise, medical issues, and guys who he had to cut loose for discipline/academics later. All of which are pretty hard to predict a few years down the road. However, Chizik got a pass on Aubrey Phillips who transfered to AU, then two weeks later was gone. And for that matter, it was already documented by one program that he had an issue. If Chizik gets a pass for not being able to see two weeks, or a year into the future, why doesn't CTT get a pass? I understand that the whole Rollison situation is hypothetical, but more than likely logical.
So, since AU is taking Newton, one would assume Rollison probably isn't in the picture anymore, for whatever reason. If that is the case, will Chizik get a pass for him "not working out"? Some here have piled on CTT for guys who didn't work out talent-wise, medical issues, and guys who he had to cut loose for discipline/academics later. All of which are pretty hard to predict a few years down the road. However, Chizik got a pass on Aubrey Phillips who transfered to AU, then two weeks later was gone. And for that matter, it was already documented by one program that he had an issue. If Chizik gets a pass for not being able to see two weeks, or a year into the future, why doesn't CTT get a pass? I understand that the whole Rollison situation is hypothetical, but more than likely logical.
In other words its an argument of convenience.
Nope. We have had this discussion before. It's the truth. TR is probably not going to work out, so they put into affect Plan B...almost immediately, before any damage had taken place.
How is that a "convenient argument"?
So, since AU is taking Newton, one would assume Rollison probably isn't in the picture anymore, for whatever reason. If that is the case, will Chizik get a pass for him "not working out"? Some here have piled on CTT for guys who didn't work out talent-wise, medical issues, and guys who he had to cut loose for discipline/academics later. All of which are pretty hard to predict a few years down the road. However, Chizik got a pass on Aubrey Phillips who transfered to AU, then two weeks later was gone. And for that matter, it was already documented by one program that he had an issue. If Chizik gets a pass for not being able to see two weeks, or a year into the future, why doesn't CTT get a pass? I understand that the whole Rollison situation is hypothetical, but more than likely logical.
Yes, more than likely it is not a hypothetical situation. I am disappointed by it since I thought TR had a lot of potential.However, we don't really know if the problem is fixed. I totally agree with what you're getting at, though. He went out and got another QB. But then again, its not any different than what anybody else does. If a player doesn't work out, you go out and recruit somebody new. Rollison was the #2 dual-threat QB in the country last season, and we are where we are. So its not like Newton is the automatic solution, just because of ranking.
However, it is obvious that these coaches saw something with TR that wasn't going to work and made a quick move to get things saved. You aren't going to bat .1000 on every player, and when you don't, it's up to the coaches to realize this and then fix the problem. Yes, Chizik and Co. get a pass for TR because they immedietly "fixed" the problem. They didn't throw TR out to the wolves and let him get pummeled on the way to a 5 win season...
But the same critical standards have to apply.
Cannot apply the same critical standards with the small sampling we have at this point.
Then you have to judge Tuberville on his career and not the 2007 class. So the "lazy ass" and "BBQ" arguments are all failures of an epic scale.
He had one bad recruiting class -- and on paper it looked pretty phuking awesome at the time. In 2007 we were celebrating a Top Ten recruiting class, giddy over how we'd dominated Bama. And if you look at their 07 class they're not getting much mileage out of it. I'd wager we have more starters from the 07 class on our roster than they do theirs.
Kaos, I am not a TT basher. Not at all. I thought TT gave up a bit toward the end and lost some fire and Saban ate his lunch. That's it. I actually agree with you. But, if you are saying that TT "in his first years", did the same thing as Chizik "in his first year", why not give Chizik some credit for that. Why bash Chizik for doing what he thinks is best for the Auburn program?This.
I truly don't know if Chizik is the guy or not. I saw Auburn do some stupid shit this past year that makes me really doubt him. BUT, he has also done some really good things that make me believe in what he is selling. Why can't you admit that?
Every time this argument comes up, you bring up TT and compare him. "Well, TT did the same thing his first year." You know what? GREAT! Maybe, just maybe, we can have another 10 years like we had under TT. I wouldn't mind that...
We didn't have acoffinChristmas treerunning back in 1999 so he went and got Rudi from juco. While he was there he picked up Cobb -- who was the relative equivalent of Newton if you want to know the truth -- so Jason wouldn't be a freshman forced into a starting role.
Imagine Tubs with Malzahn as OC, and replace a couple of offensive coaches (Grimes for OL and Taylor for WR's).
Because Tuberville did that his entire time at AU. When people didn't work out or he was concerned about depth, he got backup.
We didn't have acoffinChristmas treerunning back in 1999 so he went and got Rudi from juco. While he was there he picked up Cobb -- who was the relative equivalent of Newton if you want to know the truth -- so Jason wouldn't be a freshman forced into a starting role.
The slamming he's taking now comes primarily because AU is short on defense. Tuberville didn't make Powers leave early, that was a reaction to Chizik or the situation. He didn't force Marks to bolt early either. Another reaction to Chizik or the situation in general. Tuberville didn't make Tray Blackmon crazy, but he did try to keep the kid playing. Can't blame him for that. Tuberville didn't injure Mike McNeill or Aairon Savage.
The "he lost 30 scholarship players" is really a lot of bullpoop backfill.
At least five that Chizik signed his first year didn't qualify -- that's more than all but one of Tuberville's classes if I'm not mistaken. Six players that were signed in 2008 left the team after Chizik was hired. Tuberville's fault? How?
Tuberville had one bad class -- 2007 -- that for a variety of reasons looked really good on paper but didn't translate. Eight members (22 total stars -- including three four-star players) of that signing class didn't qualify, which was a large number for a typical Tuberville class. By comparison, only four in 2008 and three in 2006 failed to qualify. Of the three that failed to qualify in 2006, all of them eventually made it back to AU but one, Raven Gray, never played.
Four of the 2007 class (including linebacker Bo Harris, whose absence contributed to the void at that position) left after Chizik was hired. Tuberville's fault? I guess he was hiding in the bushes telling them what to do.
But even in that bad class in 2007, you can't discount what worked: Byrum, Bynes, Burns, Carter, Carr, Fairley, Freeman, Adam Herring, Mike McNeill, Slade, Ziemba.
I'm really sick of this argument because it's nothing but spin (albeit on both sides). Blindly throwing down the "Tuberville was a lazy ass who ate BBQ and didn't care about recruiting because he was scared of Saban" bullpoop is asinine when the realities aren't taken into consideration.
He had one bad recruiting class -- and on paper it looked pretty phuking awesome at the time. In 2007 we were celebrating a Top Ten recruiting class, giddy over how we'd dominated Bama. And if you look at their 07 class they're not getting much mileage out of it. I'd wager we have more starters from the 07 class on our roster than they do theirs.
But we're going to rape Tuberville for not being able to see two years into the future?
I get that he's not coming back. Not asking for him to come back. But the same critical standards have to apply.
I think that's where we'd be (roughly) without Jay Jacobs.Thats what I've never understood. Everybody bitched about the lack of offensive production, even though AU was winning like 9 games a season. Fine, so he went and got a balls-to-the walls offense. Fans rejoice, and all they talk about is how AU will now beat everybody's brains in. CTT is a hero, and has hired the perfect OC. However, he realized the issue halfway through the season, and tried to unfuck it by firing Franklin. Ok, so at least he realized there was a problem. Thats half of it. Then he gets rid of the problem. Thats better than alot of coaches would do. Who is to say that since the groundwork and concepts for such an offense had been laid, that he wouldn't have gone out and hired Malzahn for this season? Should UA have fired Saban for Applewhite running our offense in 2007?
Tuberville understood the need to change the offensive direction, thus the hire of Franklin (which was designed to help him recruit against Saban). Franklin just turned out to be a bad move for everybody involved. No doubt whatsoever in my mind that he would have fixed it.
Actually, he picked up Cobb first from Coffeeville JC in KS. Cobb asked if they needed a RB, and suggested Rudi to the Auburn coaches.
The story (from the Auburn coaches) is that Luper was there (at Blinn) watching a wide receiver (Dexter Ransom, offers to Arizona, Cal, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, etc) and within about 5 minutes was on the phone with Malzahn and Chizik talking about Newton (who was throwing to Ransom).
Straight from Luper, correct?
I was walking down Rivals Sk. (that's short for Skreet) and this is Luper's quote in the middle of the story...
"I called back and talked to (offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach) Gus Malzahn and talked to coach Gene Chizik about it," .... "From there, we started looking into Cameron, doing research on him".
"We liked what we saw. We liked what we found."
Then you have to judge Tuberville on his career and not the 2007 class. So the "lazy ass" and "BBQ" arguments are all failures of an epic scale.
Thats what I've never understood. Everybody bitched about the lack of offensive production, even though AU was winning like 9 games a season. Fine, so he went and got a balls-to-the walls offense. Fans rejoice, and all they talk about is how AU will now beat everybody's brains in. CTT is a hero, and has hired the perfect OC. However, he realized the issue halfway through the season, and tried to unfuck it by firing Franklin. Ok, so at least he realized there was a problem. Thats half of it. Then he gets rid of the problem. Thats better than alot of coaches would do. Who is to say that since the groundwork and concepts for such an offense had been laid, that he wouldn't have gone out and hired Malzahn for this season? Should UA have fired Saban for Applewhite running our offense in 2007?
CTT makes damn near literally one coaching mistake in 10 years, and they can him just because their finger is itchy, and they have a knee jerk reaction to whats going on to the West of you? Thats some shitty management of an athletic program. I think that AU realized this, and they gave him a little pocket money to go hunting with, and sent him on his way. Anybody with connected brain cells knows the man didn't just walk away from 10 years quietly. I think CTT believes in running a clean program, and I believe HE did; but I guarantee you that he knows where some bodies are buried too.
I Franklin just turned out to be a bad move for everybody involved. No doubt whatsoever in my mind that he would have fixed it.
And why was Franklin a failure? Humor me here K. You know where I am going.
Because he was a disheveled, disorganized, erratic, eccentric, undisciplined, shit eating, indecisive, unprepared hack.
Period.
Because he was a disheveled, disorganized, erratic, eccentric, undisciplined, poop eating, indecisive, unprepared hack.
Period.
Yes - he IS who he IS.As Kaos would remind us...Tubs didn't hire Franklin. The assclown did.
So why wasn't he vetted and interiewed so that we could flush these things out some place OTHER than the playing field in September? What I am saying is that this all falls at the feet of the HC. Yes, Franklin was kinda weird and he did NOT fit in at Auburn (although he seems to fit in at MTSU and Troy). Thats fine. But he didn't hire himself. He was not looked at closely enough. He wasnt even interviewed. We could have seen these things before we hired him.
Yes - he IS who he IS.
So why wasn't he vetted and interiewed so that we could flush these things out some place OTHER than the playing field in September? What I am saying is that this all falls at the feet of the HC. Yes, Franklin was kinda weird and he did NOT fit in at Auburn (although he seems to fit in at MTSU and Troy). Thats fine. But he didn't hire himself. He was not looked at closely enough. He wasnt even interviewed. We could have seen these things before we hired him.
There is the major issue. "We" are not given that option and we should not be given that option. That is why there is a head coach, which brings us back to the point that the responsibility for the actions good and bad lay at the feet of Tuberville or any other head corch.That just makes too much sense for kaos' pitchfork and dildo parade.
That just makes too much sense for kaos' pitchfork and dildo parade.
Double dumbass on you.It's impossible for you to know this.
It was a mistake for Tuberville to hire Franklin. I know that, you know that. Tuberville realized it pretty quickly, too. He even took action.
Why is Franklin better at Musty Technical College or whereever he went? Maybe he learned something from how royally he fucked up things at Auburn. Maybe he's not having to compete against SEC-caliber athletes. Maybe he has the capacity to judge the capability of second-tier athletes, but he can't do it at a higher level.
Tuberville hired the guy because he was convinced it would help Auburn in recruiting and because he'd done a good job at Troy in making them competitive on a larger scale. The reasoning was right, but the fit was a fail.
He would have fixed it.
That just makes too much sense for kaos' pitchfork and dildo parade.You were one of the many people who were simply ecstatic about Franklin's hire. Chop's "Dr. Franklinstien" graphic in his signature will live forever as well. You fuckers were telling us every day how Franklin's offense was going to beat our brains in, along with any other SEC team who dared oppose the mighty coordinator. Remember all of the bullshit you trotted out post after post in defense of Franklin and his genius? Even after the season started, it was "SEE! I WAS RIGHT!!"...until the wheels fell off.
It's impossible for you to know this.The fact that he actually identified there was a problem is something that eludes alot of coaches. They at least give it a few seasons to make sure. CTT cut the cord in the middle of the season. If he was willing to do that, then I think its reasonable to assume that he wouldn't have fucked up two hires in a row. True enough, nobody can know for sure. But at least he showed that he identified a problem and fixed it as much as he could for being in the middle of the season.
True enough, nobody can know for sure.
Maybe he's not having to compete against SEC-caliber athletes.
Tuberville hired the guy because he was convinced it would help Auburn in recruiting and because he'd done a good job at Troy in making them competitive on a larger scale. The reasoning was right, but the fit was a fail.And double Bingo.
That seems to be all AWK said. No? Nice explaination...again...right after your other post saying the same thing.Thanks, Captain Obvious.
Bingo
And double Bingo.
Franklin also probably needed a little help from the position coaches but he was changing things too much too fast for those other coaches to feel comfortable with and already set in their ways.
This.... Franklin was a problem. I admitted I was wrong long ago. However, having a coaching staff so completely split and working against each other certainly expedited the downturn.
The fact that he actually identified there was a problem is something that eludes alot of coaches. They at least give it a few seasons to make sure. CTT cut the cord in the middle of the season. If he was willing to do that, then I think its reasonable to assume that he wouldn't have fucked up two hires in a row. True enough, nobody can know for sure. But at least he showed that he identified a problem and fixed it as much as he could for being in the middle of the season.I give Coach Tuberville credit for cutting the cord when he realized that Coach Franklin's coaching style wasn't going to mesh with his assistant's style. It was a dumbass move that most fans, including myself, didn't realize that Coach Tuberville had done when he hired him without looking into what type of person he was. It's almost as if he just looked at his stats at Troy, realized that he coached under Coach Hal Mumme and with Coach Leach and figured that he'd be able to light the fire under his stale offense...again, without actually doing his job in the search. No one thought that he would've been that fuckin' stupid just to bring him in, basically without doing a background check.
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn128/Fiyuri/facepalm.jpg)Yes...face palm, Coach Tuberville screwed the pooch on the search and he paid for it.
The fact that he actually identified there was a problem is something that eludes alot of coaches. They at least give it a few seasons to make sure. CTT cut the cord in the middle of the season. If he was willing to do that, then I think its reasonable to assume that he wouldn't have fucked up two hires in a row. True enough, nobody can know for sure. But at least he showed that he identified a problem and fixed it as much as he could for being in the middle of the season.You are also assuming that he did this because the offense wasn't working. When not 2 days before he said that they would not be getting rid of Coach Franklin. Something happened at practice that morning that forced Tubs hand, would Franklin have returned for next year? Probably not, but Tubs also did not fire him mid season because the offense wasn't performing.
You are also assuming that he did this because the offense wasn't working. When not 2 days before he said that they would not be getting rid of Coach Franklin. Something happened at practice that morning that forced Tubs hand, would Franklin have returned for next year? Probably not, but Tubs also did not fire him mid season because the offense wasn't performing.
I don't remember for sure, but wasn't there a morning in particular where Franklin basically snapped? Smelled like alchohol and raved like a lunatic during a practice???