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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: The Prowler on May 29, 2009, 09:34:25 PM
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This might just top that. This weekend Auburn is tentatively hosting around 23 of some of the top prospects in the country. The Auburn Coaches are calling it the "Big Cat Weekend". Coach Loop said that when he was thinking about what to call it, he just kept thinking about all of the big cats that are coming in this weekend. There will be several contests for the prospects and the parents and coaches of the prospects will be taken away for their own special weekend.
Here's the visitors:
RB
Lache Seastrunk - Temple, Tx.
Marcus Lattimore - Duncan, SC.
WR
Shaun Kitchens - College Park, Ga. (Auburn Commitment)
Trovon Reed - Thibodaux, La.
Jeremy Richardson - Springville, Ala.
Antonio Goodwin - Atlanta, Ga.
OL
Shon Coleman - Olive Branch, Ms. (Auburn Commitment)
Eric Mack - St. Matthews, SC.
Chase Hughes - Springville, Ala. (Late Addition)
James Stone - Nashville, Tenn.
DL
Mike Thornton - Stone Mountain, Ga.
Ken Adams - Wesson, Ms. (JUCO)
Damian Jacobs - Houma, La.
Kenneth Carter - Greenville, Ala. (Late Addition)
Tank Sessions - Decatur, Ga. (Late Addition)
J.C. Copeland - LaGrange, Ga. (UT Commitment)
LB
Jake Holland - Pelham, Ala. (Auburn Commitment)
Khairi Fortt - Stamford, Conn.
Nigel Terrell - Pelham, Ala.
Ladarius Owens - Bessemer, Ala.
Jawara White - Troy, Ala.
Tyrone Cornelius - Stone Mountain, Ga.
Jessel Curry - Buford, Ga. (WVU Commitment)
Victor Beasley Jr. - Adairsville, Ga.
DB
Ryan Ayers - Douglasville, Ga.
Deion Belue - Tuscumbia, Ala. (Late Addition)
Dquan Menzie - Wesson, Ms. (JUCO) (Late Addition)
Jonathan Mincy - Decatur, Ga.
There will be more coming from the surrounding areas and possibly a couple more big names.
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So, all of these kids are burning one of their official visits on this?
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So, all of these kids are burning one of their official visits on this?
They only get one. Why not? Skeered?
Good stratagery in my book. Bring a bunch in and see if they mesh. I don't know of anyone else doing this.
Auburn ain't the biggest school in your state and Tuscaloosa ain't the smartest school in yall's state.
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Nope, these are Un-Official visits. And the players will be separated into 5 or 6 competing teams along with current Auburn players.
Here's a picture of Lache Seastrunk during a recent camp:
(http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/56/566799.jpg)
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Nope, these are Un-Official visits. And the players will be separated into 5 or 6 competing teams along with current Auburn players.
Here's a picture of Lache Seastrunk during a recent camp:
(http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/56/566799.jpg)
10' overthrown? So Kobi has a chance?
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They only get one. Why not? Skeered?
Good stratagery in my book. Bring a bunch in and see if they mesh. I don't know of anyone else doing this.
Auburn ain't the biggest school in your state and Tuscaloosa ain't the smartest school in yall's state.
Last I checked, they get 5 each. Skeered? It almost reminds me of my 3 year old's birthday party, except without a huge inflatable pirate ship slide. AU will get who they are going to get, regardless. If a kid wants to commit to AU because of a glorified birthday party, then thats his choice, and he feels that is the best fit for him. I'm not going to run a kid into the ground because he made a choice that he thinks is best for him and his family. Alabama is going to get who they get, same for AU.
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Nope, these are Un-Official visits. And the players will be separated into 5 or 6 competing teams along with current Auburn players.
Here's a picture of Lache Seastrunk during a recent camp:
(http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/56/566799.jpg)
With them staying two days and with stuff being provided by AU, I assumed they were officials. Especially with some of them coming from far away and stuff being done for the parents.
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Not all of them will have their parents and/or HS coaches with them. Also word is, some, if not most, are going to plan on being down at Auburn, together, for the same weekend, during the season.
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Not all of them will have their parents and/or HS coaches with them. Also word is, some, if not most, are going to plan on being down at Auburn, together, for the same weekend, during the season.
Leave it to a Mullet to try and put a damper on the fact that some of the top prospects in the nation are visiting Auburn this weekend. They are. Deal with it.
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Last I checked, they get 5 each. Skeered? It almost reminds me of my 3 year old's birthday party, except without a huge inflatable pirate ship slide. AU will get who they are going to get, regardless. If a kid wants to commit to AU because of a glorified birthday party, then thats his choice, and he feels that is the best fit for him. I'm not going to run a kid into the ground because he made a choice that he thinks is best for him and his family. Alabama is going to get who they get, same for AU.
If this many quality recruits were visiting Alabama this weekend, your dick would have exploded with gloating/pride.
Fair's fair.
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Last I checked, they get 5 each. Skeered? It almost reminds me of my 3 year old's birthday party, except without a huge inflatable pirate ship slide. AU will get who they are going to get, regardless. If a kid wants to commit to AU because of a glorified birthday party, then thats his choice, and he feels that is the best fit for him. I'm not going to run a kid into the ground because he made a choice that he thinks is best for him and his family. Alabama is going to get who they get, same for AU.
They only get one per school. If they took all 5 to one school they would be bammers fer shur.
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it's going to be more than a birthday party bash. I'm not going to divulge into what the contests are nor what the coaches have in store for the parents and coaches. But, it will be things that haven't been done during the un-official visits that anyone knows about.
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I'm not going to divulge into what the contests are nor what the coaches have in store for the parents and coaches.
Mainly because you have no fucking idea what they are going to do, because the coaches even said they aren't going to tell everything.
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If this many quality recruits were visiting Alabama this weekend, your dick would have exploded with gloating/pride.
Fair's fair.
Actually, we've had alot of quality recruits on campus at once before, sans birthday party. Will AU get a few commits out of it? Probably. Does it concern me? No. AU is going to get theirs, and we're going to get ours. We've done fine without cake and pie eating contests up to this point, and I don't really see that changing. If it works for you guys, then thats cool too.
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Mainly because you have no fucking idea what they are going to do, because the coaches even said they aren't going to tell everything.
Yes I do haha and I ain't gonna tell you SHIT. I knew about the "Big Cat Weekend" about a month ago, but I only told a select few...my "inside source" on the weekend festivities is Coach Luper.
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Yes I do haha and I ain't gonna tell you SHIT. I knew about the "Big Cat Weekend" about a month ago, but I only told a select few...my "inside source" on the weekend festivities is Coach Luper.
Riiiiiight.
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Coach Luper follows Prowler on Twitter.
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Coach Luper follows Prowler on Twitter.
Prowler was driving the limo.
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Coach Luper follows Prowler on Twitter.
It's the other way around, but same idea.
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http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/124367130731010.xml&coll=2 (http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/124367130731010.xml&coll=2)
Big Cat Weekend
Saturday, May 30, 2009
CHARLES GOLDBERG
News staff writer
AUBURN - The nation's top two high school running backs have a new hangout this weekend.
Lache Seastrunk and Marcus Lattimore are in Auburn for a recruiting visit along with the nation's No.2-rated wide receiver, the No.2-rated linebacker and the No.2-rated offensive guard and the No.4 offensive tackle.
Auburn coaches have dubbed this recruiting effort the Big Cat Weekend, and the marquee names make it one of Auburn's most attractive recruiting weekends in years.
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Bringing in Seastrunk and Lattimore on the same visit is perhaps the boldest move since they play the same position.
Seastrunk and Lattimore are being courted by many of the country's top schools. But this new coaching staff has not been averse to stepping out.
Auburn generated plenty of headlines last month with its Tiger Prowl limo tour of state high schools.
Seastrunk is the No.1 running back in the nation according to Rivals. Lattimore is the No.1 running back according to Scout. Also on hand are Trovon Reed, the No.2 wide receiver, Khairi Fortt, the No.2 linebacker; and Eric Mack, the No.2 offensive guard, according to Rivals and Scout. Also visiting is James Stone, the No.4 rated tackle by Rivals.
Those six - none of whom is from Alabama - are part of a group of approximately 23 recruits visiting, according to AuburnSports.com.
Seastrunk and Lattimore have been wooed by the Auburn coaches, and both have spoken highly of the Tigers. Seastrunk is from Texas, and Lattimore is from South Carolina.
Mack is from South Carolina and plays a position Auburn desperately needs to fill.
Another big-timer is Fortt, a linebacker from Stamford, Conn. Rivals rates him as the No.2 outside linebacker, and he has offers from the likes of Florida, Georgia, Notre Dame, Miami, Ohio State and Southern California.
Others visiting, according to AuburnSports.com, include:
Receivers: Shaun Kitchens of College Park, Ga., (already committed to Auburn). Also, Jeremy Richardson of Springville and Antonio Goodwin of Atlanta.
Offensive lineman: Shon Coleman of Chatham, Va.
Linebackers: Jake Holland of Pelham (committed to Auburn). Also, Jawara White of Troy, Nigel Terrell of Pelham, Victor Beasley of Adairsville, Ga., LaDarius Owens of Bessemer and Jessel Curry of Buford, Ga. Check out Goldberg's blog at blog.al.com/goldmine. cgoldberg@bhamnews.com
So what's going on at Toomer's?
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http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/124367130731010.xml&coll=2 (http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/124367130731010.xml&coll=2)
So what's going on at Toomer's?
James Stone wasn't able to make it in, neither was JC Copeland. Also, Shon Coleman is from Olive Branch, Ms.
Tonight there will be a "Big Cat" festival, at Toomer's around 9 O'Clock. Everyone is welcome. At the end of the festival, everyone will take part in Rollin' the trees.
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James Stone wasn't able to make it in, neither was JC Copeland. Also, Shon Coleman is from Olive Branch, Ms.
Tonight there will be a "Big Cat" festival, at Toomer's around 9 O'Clock. Everyone is welcome. At the end of the festival, everyone will take part in Rollin' the trees.
Pie, cake, watermelon eating contests, AND rolling a tree with toilet paper. Impressive.
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Pie, cake, watermelon eating contests, AND rolling a tree with toilet paper. Impressive.
They did a lot more that just have eating contests, which by the way, all of the prospects had a blast at.
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They did a lot more that just have eating contests, which by the way, all of the prospects had a blast at.
Oh, my bad. I forgot about the darts and ping-pong.
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Oh, my bad. I forgot about the darts and ping-pong.
2-9 against Auburn in the last 11 meetings still fucking hurts, doesn't it?
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Oh, my bad. I forgot about the darts and ping-pong.
They did more than that too.
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1-7 against Auburn in the last 8 years still fucking hurts, doesn't it?
Yeah, but hey, I can deal with that. I don't see a streak like that happening again for a while. Hopefully we can keep some stability in the program. Even though it was only one win, if you said 36-0 didn't hurt, you would be lying. It seemed to hurt the higher-ups. A thorough ass whipping will do that sometimes.
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They did more than that too.
Oh, ok.
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Pie, cake, watermelon eating contests, AND rolling a tree with toilet paper. Impressive.
Thou doth protest too much.
To this day I think the limo thing was cheesy and quasi-ridiculous. But having a lot of quality players on campus at the same time, coordinating that deal to make sure they were all there and then doing your best to show them a decent time? I got no beef with that.
Hope it pans out and does some good. The limo stunt had zero lasting impact, IMO, but this just might.
Note: Can we hire a PR person to come up with names and concepts? "Tiger Prowl" and "Big Cat" make me queasy.
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Pie, cake, watermelon eating contests, AND rolling a tree with toilet paper. Impressive.
Hater, should we have taken the recruits to a Dodge dealership instead?
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Yeah, but hey, I can deal with that. I don't see a streak like that happening again for a while. Hopefully we can keep some stability in the program. Even though it was only one win, if you said 36-0 didn't hurt, you would be lying. It seemed to hurt the higher-ups. A thorough ass whipping will do that sometimes.
It didn't hurt as bad as you fucktards would have liked. We had the worst team in the last ten years. You think our team really gave a shit after halftime in the Iron Bowl? Alabama was playing for a spot in the NC; Auburn was still wondering when two-a-days started. 36-0 sucked, but it's not like you crushed our dreams last season.
Why are so many Alabama fans (I'm referencing other message boards too) trying to downplay Auburn's big recruiting weekend? Is it because Gene Chizik went 5-19 at Iowa St? Is it because Auburn won 6 in a row against Alabama? Is it because Alabama doesn't have a shot at a lot of the names in Auburn right now?
None of your bashing makes any sense. You and your kin should stay the fuck out of these threads. You all look ridiculous.
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Thou doth protest too much.
To this day I think the limo thing was cheesy and quasi-ridiculous. But having a lot of quality players on campus at the same time, coordinating that deal to make sure they were all there and then doing your best to show them a decent time? I got no beef with that.
Hope it pans out and does some good. The limo stunt had zero lasting impact, IMO, but this just might.
Note: Can we hire a PR person to come up with names and concepts? "Tiger Prowl" and "Big Cat" make me queasy.
That late night Pussy Party will get the recruits.
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Thou doth protest too much.
To this day I think the limo thing was cheesy and quasi-ridiculous. But having a lot of quality players on campus at the same time, coordinating that deal to make sure they were all there and then doing your best to show them a decent time? I got no beef with that.
Hope it pans out and does some good. The limo stunt had zero lasting impact, IMO, but this just might.
Note: Can we hire a PR person to come up with names and concepts? "Tiger Prowl" and "Big Cat" make me queasy.
Khairi Fortt (sp?) drove from fucking Connecticut to hang out in Auburn for a few days.
If these recruits are spending their own money to come to AU, they must have some serious interest. They can have a cake eating contest in their own kitchen if they wanted to. Something special is keeping them interested.
Queasy, Kaos? Come on. I know you're skeptical of Chizik, but this is brilliant.
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Khairi Fortt (sp?) drove from fucking Connecticut to hang out in Auburn for a few days.
If these recruits are spending their own money to come to AU, they must have some serious interest. They can have a cake eating contest in their own kitchen if they wanted to. Something special is keeping them interested.
Queasy, Kaos? Come on. I know you're skeptical of Chizik, but this is brilliant.
The name, not the event. The names make me queasy. That's why I said to hire a PR person.
Christ a mighty, I give the guy some credit and it goes unnoticed....
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The name, not the event. The names make me queasy. That's why I said to hire a PR person.
Christ a mighty, I give the guy some credit and it goes unnoticed....
It was noticed that you gave credit but also took a stab as well. Just be positive all the way through. Try it with me:
"Thou doth protest too much.
To this day I think the limo thing was cheesy and quasi-ridiculous. But Having a lot of quality players on campus at the same time, coordinating that deal to make sure they were all there and then doing your best to show them a decent time? I got no beef with that.
Hope it pans out and does some good. The limo stunt had zero lasting impact, IMO, but This just might have a lasting impact
Note: Can we hire a PR person to come up with names and concepts? "Tiger Prowl" and "Big Cat" make me queasy. "
I agree, Kaos! War Eagle!
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It was noticed that you gave credit but also took a stab as well. Just be positive all the way through. Try it with me:
"Thou doth protest too much.
To this day I think the limo thing was cheesy and quasi-ridiculous. But Having a lot of quality players on campus at the same time, coordinating that deal to make sure they were all there and then doing your best to show them a decent time? I got no beef with that.
Hope it pans out and does some good. The limo stunt had zero lasting impact, IMO, but This just might have a lasting impact
Note: Can we hire a PR person to come up with names and concepts? "Tiger Prowl" and "Big Cat" make me queasy. "
I agree, Kaos! War Eagle!
But I don't like the names... Still think the Tiger Prowl (name and concept) was cheesy and won't have a long-term benefit.
But this was a good move. I think pointing out that I'm not a sunshine pumper and willing to be objective makes the praise stronger.
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Thou doth protest too much.
To this day I think the limo thing was cheesy and quasi-ridiculous. But having a lot of quality players on campus at the same time, coordinating that deal to make sure they were all there and then doing your best to show them a decent time? I got no beef with that.
Hope it pans out and does some good. The limo stunt had zero lasting impact, IMO, but this just might.
Note: Can we hire a PR person to come up with names and concepts? "Tiger Prowl" and "Big Cat" make me queasy.
I don't think the whole getting them all on campus is a bad concept at all, but pie/cake/watermelon eating contests? Excellent concept, weird execution.
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IMO the name "Tiger Prowl" wasn't cheesy, but if it was up to you what would you have named it? Also the concept, might've been cheesy to fans over 30, but it wasn't cheesy for kids at the age of 16-17.
Kaos, what would you have called this weekend's festivities?
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It didn't hurt as bad as you fucktards would have liked. We had the worst team in the last ten years. You think our team really gave a shit after halftime in the Iron Bowl? Alabama was playing for a spot in the NC; Auburn was still wondering when two-a-days started. 36-0 sucked, but it's not like you crushed our dreams last season.
And what did we contend for the majority of those years that AU beat us, other than the bottom of the SEC? Our program was pretty fucked up during that time as well, so if you can put a disclaimer on 36-0, then I could just as easily put one on most of the wins during the streak. AU enjoyed alot of success during that time. Our program was in shambles. That street runs both ways, you know. At the end of the day, you guys still beat us just the same.
Why are so many Alabama fans (I'm referencing other message boards too) trying to downplay Auburn's big recruiting weekend? Is it because Gene Chizik went 5-19 at Iowa St? Is it because Auburn won 6 in a row against Alabama? Is it because Alabama doesn't have a shot at a lot of the names in Auburn right now?
I think it is mainly because some AU fans are quick to throw it in our faces. During last season, I believe even you noted the "monster" that was developing in Tuscaloosa. Some AU fans were seeing the writing on the wall. Its the same reason our fans would throw shit in people's faces about Shula. Our program was in some deep shit and would magnify the smallest thing he did as a reason he was a God. I'm not saying this is the deal with AU, but I'm just trying to get you in the same ballpark that I'm thinking in, you know?
None of your bashing makes any sense. You and your kin should stay the fuck out of these threads. You all look ridiculous.
Again, I think the CONCEPT of the "Big Cat" weekend is good. I just think everything thereafter is a little shakey. Thats just the opinion of a rival fan, and you can take that however you want it. The ultimate indicator will be results.
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The name is cheezy (according to 3 different 16-18 teenagers I asked). However the concept is a good one. I'll admit it shocked me, not as much as it probably shocked chizik but I was still shocked. In fact the concept helps to erase some of the limo embarrassment of course it will not matter much since these recruits will actually sign AFTER they see the product that chizik and the insane clown posse put on the field.
But still it was a good try.
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For your information greaseybammer, the "Tiger Prowl" was anything BUT an embarrassment. So, you asked your classmates what they thought about the "Tiger Prowl"? As for shocking Coach Chizik? What the fuck are you talking about? The only thing that shocked Coach Chizik, was the amount of publicity the "Tiger Prowl" created all across the Country. I agree that most, if not all, of these prospects will want to wait and see what Auburn can do on the field.
IMO, here's what they'll see, they'll see marked improvement among the Wide Receivers, a Defense that will swarm to the ball and will create more turnovers than last year's unit did, a more physical Offensive Line, Offensive plays that have the RB run North/South as opposed to the East/West running plays of last year. They'll notice the lack of Depth on the OL as well as the LBers and they'll see marked improvement on the overall record than last year's team.
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One of the fans, that was getting his picture taken with Lache, said that while he was getting it taken, a guy jumped up and snapped a picture of Lache and yelled "raw taghd". The Auburn fan looked at Lache to see what his response was, the Auburn guy said that Lache gave the mouthbreather a "Go To Hell" look before he quickly tucked tail and got out of his face. That guy would've gotten dropped right were he stood, if I was Lache. :rofl: That's what people call having Little Brother Syndrome or being the retarded, red-headed, mouthbreathing, neckbearded, step-child.
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IMO the name "Tiger Prowl" wasn't cheesy, but if it was up to you what would you have named it? Also the concept, might've been cheesy to fans over 30, but it wasn't cheesy for kids at the age of 16-17.
Kaos, what would you have called this weekend's festivities?
I don't know. I just want those fucking whippersnappers to get off my lawn.
Maybe this is the way things are done now. I'm just having trouble correlating dignified, austere """We are Auburn" with "Big Cat Weekend..." Why does it even need a name?
It's like the difference between Haverty's Fine Furniture and Crazy Eddie's Sofa Shack.
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That's what people call having Little Brother Syndrome or being the retarded, red-headed, mouthbreathing, neckbearded, step-child.
Says the fan of the fanbase who is having to do all of this to simply try and catch up.
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Says the fan of the fanbase who is having to do all of this to simply try and catch up.
Says the fan of the fanbase that is bitchin' and moanin' about how the coaches broke a handful of NCAA violations....blah, blah, blah. Also, says the fan of a rival fanbase that goes onto nearly all of the websites of his rival.
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Says the fan of the fanbase that is bitchin' and moanin' about how the coaches broke a handful of NCAA violations....blah, blah, blah. Also, says the fan of a rival fanbase that goes onto nearly all of the websites of his rival.
And I even commented to some of those folks that its the same thing we get upset at AU fans for doing, and we shouldn't get into that. If I think its bullshit for one, its bullshit for everybody. I don't agree with the wild accusations AU fans come up with, and its embarassing when our fans do it back. Some idiot posted a thread on BOL about Seastrunk being an "idiot", and it was quickly zapped too.
I don't know if AU broke a handful of NCAA violations or not, so I'm not going to come up with whatever story I can. If AU broke rules, and it gets out, I'm sure it will be dealt with accordingly. If AU broke rules and nobody finds out, then whatever. If AU didn't break any rules, then whatever. I wasn't there, so I don't know. From what I've seen publically, I don't really see any rules AU broke. I think the only thing that was called into question was having fans at Toomer's corner. Some said it was the same as having fans staged in a stadium and cheering for recruits when they took the field. It has something to do with some rule about organized recruiting or something, I don't know if thats something we've been in trouble for before, or if it happened at some other school and they got in trouble, or what. I don't know the rule so I'm not going to speculate on if it was broken or not.
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Says the fan of the fanbase that is bitchin' and moanin' about how the coaches broke a handful of NCAA violations....
I don't know if AU broke a handful of NCAA violations or not,
Point of order?
You can't actually break a violation. You can commit one, but to break a violation would mean that you actually did it correctly. (The double-negative rule applies).
So in this case, I hope that Auburn broke a ton of violations.
English. Learn it. Live it.
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For your information greaseweasel, the "Tiger Prowl" was anything BUT an embarrassment. So, you asked your classmates what they thought about the "Tiger Prowl"? As for shocking Coach Chizik? What the fuck are you talking about? The only thing that shocked Coach Chizik, was the amount of publicity the "Tiger Prowl" created all across the Country. I agree that most, if not all, of these prospects will want to wait and see what Auburn can do on the field.
IMO, here's what they'll see, they'll see marked improvement among the Wide Receivers, a Defense that will swarm to the ball and will create more turnovers than last year's unit did, a more physical Offensive Line, Offensive plays that have the RB run North/South as opposed to the East/West running plays of last year. They'll notice the lack of Depth on the OL as well as the LBers and they'll see marked improvement on the overall record than last year's team.
Blah blah blah.....chizik was shocked that something he was responsible for didn't blow up in his face.
and the tiger prowl was not an embarrassment if you were looking for something that makes Auburn look desperate and bush league.
To the rest of us it was very much an embarrassment.
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To the rest of us it was very much an embarrassment.
by "rest of us" I assume you're meaning all of your bammer brothers. So, greasey have you received your Sons of Sabban (SOS) t-shirt yet? Again, you are wrong, it wasn't an embarrassment to all of the Auburn fans that knows that things need to be done in recruiting to catch the recruits attention, to bad you're too fuckin' retarded to understand that.
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by "rest of us" I assume you're meaning all of your bammer brothers. So, greasey have you received your Sons of Sabban (SOS) t-shirt yet? Again, you are wrong, it wasn't an embarrassment to all of the Auburn fans that knows that things need to be done in recruiting to catch the recruits attention, to bad you're too fuckin' retarded to understand that.
While GW's opinion isn't the majority, it should be noted that yours isn't either, Prowler. You're just as fringe as he is, but in a different direction.
You don't speak for the "majority" any more than he does.
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Apparently AU is now investigating possible secondary violations during the "Big Cat" weekend....
http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2009/05/auburn_to_review_possible_seco.html (http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2009/05/auburn_to_review_possible_seco.html)
It appears that the issues at hand are:
-Coach Luper doing a roll call of each recruit before they each rolled the tree.
-An "obvious organized recruiting event" at Toomer's Corner. This involved advertisement on all three major AU sites and push-pinned posts by moderators on major AU boards urging fans to attend, but none of them said it was at the coaches urging that people attend. Aubie also attended and AU police were called in to assist with traffic control for the event.
It wouldn't surprise me if AU knew they would violate these, but felt it would be worth it since they would not affect the eligibility of any recruit and would be a secondary violation. However, I really don't think I would want to push the envelope like that very often. No determination at this time though, only a review. I was a little curious after AU's Rivals site originally posted a video that showed the coaches with everybody and him calling recruits' names but then all of a sudden it was edited from about 4 minutes of video to around 2 minutes.
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Hater, should we have taken the recruits to a Dodge dealership instead?
This made me chortle. :bowl:
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Apparently AU is now investigating possible secondary violations during the "Big Cat" weekend....
http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2009/05/auburn_to_review_possible_seco.html (http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2009/05/auburn_to_review_possible_seco.html)
It appears that the issues at hand are:
-Coach Luper doing a roll call of each recruit before they each rolled the tree.
-An "obvious organized recruiting event" at Toomer's Corner. This involved advertisement on all three major AU sites and push-pinned posts by moderators on major AU boards urging fans to attend, but none of them said it was at the coaches urging that people attend. Aubie also attended and AU police were called in to assist with traffic control for the event.
It wouldn't surprise me if AU knew they would violate these, but felt it would be worth it since they would not affect the eligibility of any recruit and would be a secondary violation. However, I really don't think I would want to push the envelope like that very often. No determination at this time though, only a review. I was a little curious after AU's Rivals site originally posted a video that showed the coaches with everybody and him calling recruits' names but then all of a sudden it was edited from about 4 minutes of video to around 2 minutes.
When it comes to secondary violations, we learned from the best. You can have credit for that.
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For your information rws, Coach Trooper nor Coach Luper didn't yell out any of the player's names. Again, you need to go back and watch the videos...as does the rest of your mouthbreathing fanbase. The guy that's yellin' out the names of the players is coming from a little white guy.
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you need to go back and watch the videos...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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It's a white guy callin' out the names, so whoever wrote the article about Coach Luper callin' out the names needs to do a little more homework....Sounds more like some bammer spin to me. Maybe Coach Sabben got his widdle panties in a wad when the #1 RB in the country told him that he's SOL in regards to Ladarius Owens? Hmmm?
http://www.oanow.com/oan/sports/college/article/watch_toomers_corner_is_rolled_during_big_cat_weekend/74538/ (http://www.oanow.com/oan/sports/college/article/watch_toomers_corner_is_rolled_during_big_cat_weekend/74538/)
Kaos, you're gonna start your shit here? I'd figured that you were already bled out. Keep gettin' up and I'll keep knockin' you back down.
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Kaos, you're gonna start your shit here? I'd figured that you were already bled out. Keep gettin' up and I'll keep knockin' you back down.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You couldn't knock me down if I bought you a bazooka and tattooed directions for use on the back of your hand, chump.
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You couldn't knock me down if I bought you a bazooka and tattooed directions for use on the back of your hand, chump.
:tehebay:
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:tehebay:
I bid on a bazooka. Doubt I'll win.
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I bid on a bazooka. Doubt I'll win.
Make sure you check the sellers feedback rating.
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Make sure you check the sellers feedback rating.
It's cool. He's only got one negative and that was a fatwa. Guess that's like a "no harm no foul" in Arabic or something.
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For your information rws, Coach Trooper nor Coach Luper didn't yell out any of the player's names. Again, you need to go back and watch the videos...as does the rest of your mouthbreathing fanbase. The guy that's yellin' out the names of the players is coming from a little white guy.
The original one, or the edited one with all of the coaches taken out of it? Either way, if it was Luper, Taylor, or not, they still had their names announced to a crowd at an organized recruiting event, and coaches were present. If you try to argue that it wasn't an organized recruiting event, then thats just plain dumb.
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The original one, or the edited one with all of the coaches taken out of it? Either way, if it was Luper, Taylor, or not, they still had their names announced to a crowd at an organized recruiting event, and coaches were present. If you try to argue that it wasn't an organized recruiting event, then thats just plain dumb.
He is just plain dumb.
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13.10.6 Introduction of Prospective Student-Athlete.
An institution may not introduce a visiting prospective student-athlete at a function (e.g., the institution’s sports award banquet or an intercollegiate athletics contest) that is attended by media representatives or open to the general public. Violations of this bylaw do not affect a prospective student-athlete’s eligibility and are considered institutional violations per Constitution 2.8.1. (Revised: 1/14/97)
13.7.3 Activities During Unofficial Visit.
An institution may not arrange miscellaneous, personalized recruiting aids (e.g., personalized jerseys, personalized audio/visual scoreboard presentations) and may not permit a prospective student-athlete to engage in any game-day simulations (e.g., running onto the field with the team during pregame introductions) during an unofficial visit. Personalized recruiting aids include any decorative items and special additions to any location the prospective student-athlete will visit (e.g., hotel room, locker room, coach’s office, conference room, arena) regardless of whether or not the items include the prospective student-athlete’s name or picture.
1. The University did not advertise the event, the fans did, and the University didn't introduce recruits, a fan did; hence, no violation.
2. Toomer's corner gets rolled on several occasions throughout the year, not just on gameday (Toomer's was rolled when Barak Obama was elected President). So technically, its not a "gameday" simulation....also it says the institution cannot arrange miscellaneous, personalized recruiting aids. The coaches did not give the recruits toilet paper, only fans did; hence, no violation.
The only thing that I could see as being a violation is Coach Trooper leading the crowd in a chant, I'm guessing that's a violation.
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by "rest of us" I assume you're meaning all of your bammer brothers. So, greasey have you received your Sons of Sabban (SOS) t-shirt yet? Again, you are wrong, it wasn't an embarrassment to all of the Auburn fans that knows that things need to be done in recruiting to catch the recruits attention, to bad you're too fuckin' retarded to understand that.
No spineless fucker I am not a bammer. But fear not you will flip flop on this and soon. You've already shown your spineless ability to stand up and rah-rah what ever you feel will make you liked by Auburn people.
You weak, spineless and basically pathetic.
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No spineless fucker I am not a bammer. But fear not you will flip flop on this and soon. You've already shown your spineless ability to stand up and rah-rah what ever you feel will make you liked by Auburn people.
You weak, spineless and basically pathetic.
You are a sad fucking piece of bammer shit. When Coach Chizik was hired, I was one of many that didn't like the hire, but then I realized that this isn't Iowa "Cesspool II" State and that just because he wasn't successful there, doesn't neccessarily mean that he won't be successful here...with better players, better facilities and more money to hire better assistants. I wanted to wait and see what assistants that he'd be able to bring in. After the last assistant said that he wanted to be a part of what was going on, I was very, very impressed. Also, I could give two shits what other people think about me. Open your fuckin' eyes, maybe then you'll be able to see the type of coaches that Coach Chizik has surrounded himself with....that is if you really know anything about College Football.
Am I saying that Auburn will be successful, just because of a talented coaching staff? No. What I am saying is that nearly all of the coaches are a player's coach and that if they can gel with each other and gel with the players (which I think that they'll be able to), then Auburn could become successful....maybe even, very successful. It's going to come down to what these coaches can do behind the scenes and on the field. So far, they've been nothing but impressive. Word of advice for you, greaseybammer, go to you nearest Optometrist and see if he can empty out your shit filled eyeballs.
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13.10.6 Introduction of Prospective Student-Athlete.
An institution may not introduce a visiting prospective student-athlete at a function (e.g., the institution’s sports award banquet or an intercollegiate athletics contest) that is attended by media representatives or open to the general public. Violations of this bylaw do not affect a prospective student-athlete’s eligibility and are considered institutional violations per Constitution 2.8.1. (Revised: 1/14/97)
The deal at Toomer's was attended by media representatives, and was open to the general public. According to Woodberry's writeup, it was advertised on the three major sites that cover AU. Then it was also advertised on thos sites that fans are encouraged to attend. There were over 100 people there, and it was held in a public place. I would call that open to the general public. It might be one thing if the assistant coaches were not in attendance. You could sort of argue it your way then, but assistant coaches were present. The freaking school mascot was present. Thats where the institution is brough it, and gives it the sense that it was sponsored by the institution. It does not matter whether the person doing the announcing actually works for AU or not.
13.7.3 Activities During Unofficial Visit.
An institution may not arrange miscellaneous, personalized recruiting aids (e.g., personalized jerseys, personalized audio/visual scoreboard presentations) and may not permit a prospective student-athlete to engage in any game-day simulations (e.g., running onto the field with the team during pregame introductions) during an unofficial visit. Personalized recruiting aids include any decorative items and special additions to any location the prospective student-athlete will visit (e.g., hotel room, locker room, coach’s office, conference room, arena) regardless of whether or not the items include the prospective student-athlete’s name or picture.
What has been brought up is an organized recruiting event. Evan Woodbery says he would be surprised if AU didn't self report themselves for violations that occured during the event. There were police there 45 minutes before the event. As I previously stated, Aubie was there. At least one AU assistant coach was there. Its not that difficult to see, that this was organized by AU staff. Even you yourself said your "inside source" for this weekend was Coach Luper. Ah, the wonders of Twitter. Thats great that he tells AuburnUndercover that he has "no idea" how word about it got out, but something tells me he isn't being truthful.
Also, you forgot one:
13.10.1 Presence of Media during Recruiting Contact.
A member institution shall not permit a media entity to be present during any recruiting contact made by an institution’s coaching staff member. Violations of this bylaw do not affect a prospective student-athlete’s eligibility and are considered institutional violations per Constitution 2.8.1. (Adopted: 1/9/96, Revised: 1/14/97)
I don't think I have to list why this bylaw was broken.
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Also, you forgot one:
13.10.1 Presence of Media during Recruiting Contact.
A member institution shall not permit a media entity to be present during any recruiting contact made by an institution’s coaching staff member. Violations of this bylaw do not affect a prospective student-athlete’s eligibility and are considered institutional violations per Constitution 2.8.1. (Adopted: 1/9/96, Revised: 1/14/97)
I don't think I have to list why this bylaw was broken.
If we listed the exact bylaws that Nick Saban has broken since he arrived at Alabama, would it shut you people up?
Good fucking lord. In case you missed it, I posted an article yesterday about Georgia self reporting 3 secondary violations in football recruiting. 3 actual violations. Not speculation.
The negative press happening against Auburn due to the POSSIBILITY of secondary...SECONDARY...violations occurring has been unreal.
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If we listed the exact bylaws that Nick Saban has broken since he arrived at Alabama, would it shut you people up?
Good fucking lord. In case you missed it, I posted an article yesterday about Georgia self reporting 3 secondary violations in football recruiting. 3 actual violations. Not speculation.
The negative press happening against Auburn due to the POSSIBILITY of secondary...SECONDARY...violations occurring has been unreal.
I don't think the big issue here is breaking secondary violations, per se. Everybody commits secondary violations, fact of life. However, I think the idea of self reporting secondary violations is that they are meant to be under the premise that they were not intentionally broken in the first place. I think what is causing the outrage, and I guess what you do not see, with this is that the violations were seemingly broken intentionally, knowing they would be minor violations that the university would not be penalized for. Had Nick Saban done something similar you guys would have gone through the roof, and you know it. You would have went on an on that it is an obvious sign that CNS is willingly and publically thumbing his nose at authority.
No problem with AU committing secondary violations. The problem is with them being committed in such an open and public way, with an obvious disregard to the rules. This would leave one to believe that they would be willing to break other rules as well. AU did a VERY public thing. Why are you so shocked that the public is now calling them out on it? It may take a few months for the violations to be reported for the NCAA, but if you think no violations were committed at Toomer's, you are mistaken.
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You are so fucking full of shit. Blatantly broken? No. Pushing the envelope? Probably. To take what happened and spin it the way you do is beyond ridiculous...
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You are so fucking full of shit. Blatantly broken? No. Pushing the envelope? Probably. To take what happened and spin it the way you do is beyond ridiculous...
Please explain how none of those rules were broken. An AU assistant coach was there. Aubie was there. Fans attended. Media was there. The police were asked to handle crowd and traffic control beforehand in anticipation of a large event. How is that not an organized recruiting event? Am I missing something? The big indicator here, imo, is Aubie and at least one assistant coach was there. It is not just me spinning it either, AU blogs and beat writers are even weighing in that they more than likely broke some rules.
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If we listed the exact bylaws that Nick Saban has broken since he arrived at Alabama, would it shut you people up?
How 'bout we don't? That was BG03's typical "I know you are, but what am I" dodge on the old site. If you said a Bama player had head lice, he'd bring up all the Auburn players who had been bitten by a mosquito.
Taking a page from that playbook is a fail.
If we did something wrong, we just did and we'll deal with it. Motes, beams and whatnot.
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All this is speculation...but I will play along. Just like EVERY time a big recruiting weekend happens, Rivals or Scouts report on it. The sites reported that the recruits would go "see Toomer's corner" and perhaps experience rolling it. Students and fans took it apon themselves to go and see the recruits do this. No one was encouraged to go. Asst. Coaches are pretty much with the recruits all the time, so I don't see what's wrong with them "being there". Leading a cheer.....maybe. Aubie is a student. They keep the outfit at the house and can use it for whatever. I had a good friend that was Aubie and he wore it to a little kids birthday party once. Aubie could have come on his own. Fans no what these recruits look like now aday. Like it or not, but these guys are mini celebrities. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that a student could have taken it upon himself do to something like that...at toomer's corner....near bars...hell, it sounds like something I would do.
So...did Auburn plan this. Maybe. But they did it in a way that wasn't "planned". Did it push the envelope??? Absolutely. Until the NCAA makes a "Big Cat" rule though, you can't say shit...
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AU blogs and beat writers ...
FUCK them. Evan "I was sports editor of the Crimson White and would love to fuck that place up" Woodberry? Are you shitting me? He's fucking digging for shit every single day. Never passes an opportunity to take a shot. Fuck that clown. Hope he chokes on a dick.
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No one was encouraged to go.
Prowler's alleged sources (about which I will refrain comment) invalidate this comment.
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You can't stop people from gathering on a public street. Toomer's is the most popular corner on campus - if ANYONE is at Toomer's throwing toilet paper, not only will other people walk over to see what's up, and start throwing it themselves, but when they find out what is happening, they will text/tweet/call everyone they know and get them to show up too. In this day of instant communication, I think the AUAD could have kept a total lock on this whole thing right up until the players left to head for Toomer's - then the texting starts, and the calls start and the cops get notified, and by the time the players get there, party in progress...
...and life goes on...
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Wench, I agree.
Kaos, you can't have it both ways. You discredit prowler every chance you get then you use him as a source for arguement??? That's bad dude...
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All this is speculation...but I will play along. Just like EVERY time a big recruiting weekend happens, Rivals or Scouts report on it. The sites reported that the recruits would go "see Toomer's corner" and perhaps experience rolling it. Students and fans took it apon themselves to go and see the recruits do this. No one was encouraged to go.
Except for the part on the threads that were stuck to the top of the forum that contained wording "fans are encouraged to attend" by site administrators.
Asst. Coaches are pretty much with the recruits all the time, so I don't see what's wrong with them "being there". Leading a cheer.....maybe. Aubie is a student. They keep the outfit at the house and can use it for whatever. I had a good friend that was Aubie and he wore it to a little kids birthday party once. Aubie could have come on his own. Fans no what these recruits look like now aday. Like it or not, but these guys are mini celebrities. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that a student could have taken it upon himself do to something like that...at toomer's corner....near bars...hell, it sounds like something I would do.
Holy shit. And you were the one accusing ME of spinning this thing? That is one hell of a spin job if I've ever seen one. There isn't anything wrong with the coaches being there, except the fact that they were there when the violations took place, thus making it appear to be sanctioned by AU since somebody with NCAA compliance training was there. You spun it off the face of the planet with your take on Aubie, though. Out of this universe, to be exact.
So...did Auburn plan this. Maybe. But they did it in a way that wasn't "planned". Did it push the envelope??? Absolutely. Until the NCAA makes a "Big Cat" rule though, you can't say shit...
The fact that an hour after the event concluded AU was already looking into the possibility of violations tells me alot. Yes or no question: Regardless of how minor the violations are, do you think that some of the things that happened at Toomer's violate NCAA bylaw(s)?
The coaches simply could have asked the crowd to disperse. They had the PD there to assist them in doing that. It was an organized recruiting event, plain and simple. Complete with chants of "come to Auburn!", Aubie, and coaches present. To say that fans showing up all on their own out of the blue is ridiculous, because all of the AU media sites were encouraging people to attend. Whether coaches told them to say that or not, it really doesn't matter. There were coaches there when all of this was going down, and they made no attempt to stop it.
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Wench, I agree.
Kaos, you can't have it both ways. You discredit prowler every chance you get then you use him as a source for arguement??? That's bad dude...
Sarcasm eludes you...
Basically saying that if his "sources" are worth a shit -- and we all know that message boards are inviolate -- then your argument dies on the vine.
Frankly? I wouldn't rely on a single thing he said.
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FUCK them. Evan "I was sports editor of the Crimson White and would love to fuck that place up" Woodberry? Are you shitting me? He's fucking digging for shit every single day. Never passes an opportunity to take a shot. Fuck that clown. Hope he chokes on a dick.
While all of that may be true, was his article that far off base?
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The fact that an hour after the event concluded AU was already looking into the possibility of violations tells me alot. Yes or no question: Regardless of how minor the violations are, do you think that some of the things that happened at Toomer's violate NCAA bylaw(s)?
Here I must call bullshit, double bullshit and triple dog bullshit.
Evan "Douchebag motherfucker" Woodberry initiated the entire "NCAA violation" scenario when HE -- because he is at his core a bama-loving, auburn-hating motherfucking son of a trailer trash whore -- called the event into question and when HE -- because he is at his core a saban-sucking, auburn-loathing offspring of a hyena and a trailer-park bitch -- started asking questions.
It started with him.
I hope he chokes on a man pickle.
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How 'bout we don't? That was BG03's typical "I know you are, but what am I" dodge on the old site. If you said a Bama player had head lice, he'd bring up all the Auburn players who had been bitten by a mosquito.
Taking a page from that playbook is a fail.
If we did something wrong, we just did and we'll deal with it. Motes, beams and whatnot.
It's not about what's fair and what's equal. I'm not talking about if we did something wrong or not. I'm talking about how the media in this state has had numerous strokes over our recruiting weekend and has even listed - just like RWS did - the exact bylaws we violated. Have you read some of the bullshit articles that have been published in the newspapers over the last few days?
My argument isn't against fans' reactions/perceptions of secondary violation. I'm talking about what is supposed to be objective reporting - hell some of them are supposed to be biased FOR Auburn cough Evan fuckstick Woodberry cough as AU beat writers, and they are even ignoring the success of the weekend and focusing on the possible violations. Violations that won't matter in the long run. It's ridiculous that there isn't fair reporting in this state, and the media seems to believe they can help Alabama football by portraying Auburn in a negative light.
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Here I must call bullshit, double bullshit and triple dog bullshit.
Evan "Douchebag motherfucker" Woodberry initiated the entire "NCAA violation" scenario when HE -- because he is at his core a bama-loving, auburn-hating motherfucking son of a trailer trash whore -- called the event into question and when HE -- because he is at his core a saban-sucking, auburn-loathing offspring of a hyena and a trailer-park bitch -- started asking questions.
It started with him.
I hope he chokes on a man pickle.
He said his source for his information was an AU spokesperson. Do you think:
A) They are only investigating because he raised questions.
B) They were going to look into it anyway before he spoke to said "AU spokesman".
C) They have not and will not be looking into it.
Thats fine and great that you think he is a bama-loving auburn-hating motherfucking son of a trailer trash whore saban-sucking auburn-loathing offspring of a hyena and a trailer-park bitch, but you don't really give a clear opinion on where you stand on what he actually reported.
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He said his source for his information was an AU spokesperson. Do you think:
A) They are only investigating because he raised questions.
B) They were going to look into it anyway before he spoke to said "AU spokesman".
C) They have not and will not be looking into it.
Thats fine and great that you think he is a bama-loving auburn-hating motherfucking son of a trailer trash whore saban-sucking auburn-loathing offspring of a hyena and a trailer-park bitch, but you don't really give a clear opinion on where you stand on what he actually reported.
His source was an Auburn spokesperson BECAUSE HE FUCKING CALLED THE GUY AND QUESTIONED IT. That's where it started.
Everything that's come since is an extension of that.
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RWS,
It's been one bullshit monger after another. Woodberry, Finebaum, name the bammer cocksucker, has been on the misinformation bandwagon since this weekend. The weekend that Auburn had 20 TOP RANKED recruits on campus. Finebaum had to start his show monday, LYING...claiming it was Luper announcing the players names at Toomer's Corner. He was eventually called down about it, then went on a rant about how Auburn Sports dot come was editing video of the event at the request of Auburn coaches.
Bammers, and y'all can deny it until the end of time, Auburn is back on the recruiting trail, and y'all fucking can't stand it! You can laugh, poke fun at, giggle, (actually laugh nervously)...but here's the thing...recruiting is about hard work. Auburn is working at recruiting again, and it interferes with what bammers perceive as their rightful place. Saban's rule breaking ass was hailed as the hardest working coach in the biz because they had to make a rule to stop him from constantly violating the bump rule. Contrary to what you fuckers call it, they didn't make the rule because the other coaches were too lazy to work as hard, they made it because he wouldn't abide by the other rules. I personally don't give a fuck if Auburn happened to violate some dumbass secondary violation rule...it won't result in sanctions, and thus means jack shit!
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RWS,
It's been one bullshit monger after another. Woodberry, Finebaum, name the bammer cocksucker, has been on the misinformation bandwagon since this weekend. The weekend that Auburn had 20 TOP RANKED recruits on campus. Finebaum had to start his show monday, LYING...claiming it was Luper announcing the players names at Toomer's Corner. He was eventually called down about it, then went on a rant about how Auburn Sports dot come was editing video of the event at the request of Auburn coaches.
I could give a shit less about Finebaum or what he says. Whether the video was edited at the behest of AU coaches, nobody knows that except the coaches and the AUSports staff. I don't know of anything that says they asked them to edit it, so whatever.
Bammers, and y'all can deny it until the end of time, Auburn is back on the recruiting trail, and y'all fucking can't stand it! You can laugh, poke fun at, giggle, (actually laugh nervously)...but here's the thing...recruiting is about hard work. Auburn is working at recruiting again, and it interferes with what bammers perceive as their rightful place. Saban's rule breaking ass was hailed as the hardest working coach in the biz because they had to make a rule to stop him from constantly violating the bump rule. Contrary to what you fuckers call it, they didn't make the rule because the other coaches were too lazy to work as hard, they made it because he wouldn't abide by the other rules. I personally don't give a fuck if Auburn happened to violate some dumbass secondary violation rule...it won't result in sanctions, and thus means jack shit!
Actually, I'm not nearly as worried as other Alabama fans are. You are going to get yours, and we are going to get ours, simple as that. Thats fine that yall are "back on the recruiting trail". We're still getting studs, and we're still getting who we are getting. Not a big deal. I don't preceive it as our "rightful place". Mind you, I wasn't around in the days of Bear, etc, so don't group me into that mentality to fit your argument. They didn't make a rule because he kept violating a rule. That in itself doesn't make sense. Thats like saying they are going to make a law about committing murder because so many people are violating the law for committng muder. They made a new rule to cover an ambiguous area that another rule left open. I never called it anything but simply the guys we got wanted to go to Alabama more than they wanted to go to the other schools that offered. I never said anything about other coaches being lazy. But hey, keep throwing out those inflammatory party lines. I'm sure some folks will bite on them.
In short, that shoe doesn't fit nearly as good when its on the wrong foot, does it?