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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: AUTailgatingRules on January 16, 2009, 06:09:57 PM
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We might could have gotten one of Kaos's choices
Gruden fired by Tampa
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3839188 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3839188)
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Whoa. Wow. WHY?
I understand that Gruden hasn't been the best coach since Lombardi, but he's had success. He's done a lot with teams that have been hurt by injuries. He never found that quarterback that he needed. Cadillac couldn't keep his tires from going flat.
I guess like Auburn, you eventually need to go in a different direction. Seven years is a long time considering he won the Super Bowl in his first. Someone will pick him up. Who still needs a head coach?
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The Jets and the Rams still need a coach. I would've been happy with him as our head coach.
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Nah 5-19 is just what we need.
New chizpanzee supporters bumper sticker.
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5-19....That'll get rid the '04 Bandwagon fans
If AU has a good year, next year
Your seat will be taken.
That's the new bumper sticker.
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5-19....That'll get rid the '04 Bandwagon fans
If AU has a good year, next year
Your seat will be taken.
That's the new bumper sticker.
Boo. He pulls another 5-19 there won't be any wagon at all except the one gassing up to run him down.
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Before we got Saban, Gruden was who I wanted to be 'Bamas coach.
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5-19....That'll get rid the '04 Bandwagon fans
If AU has a good year, next year
Your seat will be taken.
That's the new bumper sticker.
When the chizpanzee breaks it off deep in our collective annusses will you please never ever post on here again.
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Damnit all, I wanted Gruden as our next head coach...
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When the chizpanzee breaks it off deep in our collective annusses will you please never ever post on here again.
When you get a Fuckin' Clue.....will you never post on here again? Coach Chizik is a Great Coach and a Really Good Recruiter. He's surrounding himself with Great Coaches and Really Good to Great Recruiters. Once you get your head outta your ass, you'll realize what I've stated is fuckin' true.
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When you get a Fuckin' Clue.....will you never post on here again? Coach Chizik is a Great Coach and a Really Good Recruiter. He's surrounding himself with Great Coaches and Really Good to Great Recruiters. Once you get your head outta your ass, you'll realize what I've stated is fuckin' true.
No sir you pull yours out of your ass. Gene Chizik is a great Coordinator. That means he advises the coach about just 1 facet of the game. As a head coach he sucks. Also when a "coach" has to surround himself with GREAT RECRUITERS then you are in serious trouble. But your so busy being a complete believe what ever the hell they tell you fucktard that you never ever pause to stop look and think for yourself.
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No sir you pull yours out of your ass. Gene Chizik is a great Coordinator. That means he advises the coach about just 1 facet of the game. As a head coach he sucks. Also when a "coach" has to surround himself with GREAT RECRUITERS then you are in serious trouble. But your so busy being a complete believe what ever the hell they tell you fucktard that you never ever pause to stop look and think for yourself.
Go Home
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No sir you pull yours out of your ass. Gene Chizik is a great Coordinator. That means he advises the coach about just 1 facet of the game. As a head coach he sucks. Also when a "coach" has to surround himself with GREAT RECRUITERS then you are in serious trouble. But your so busy being a complete believe what ever the hell they tell you fucktard that you never ever pause to stop look and think for yourself.
You, are a bammer. I haven't heard what "They" are telling me, I already fuckin' know...I know football and I know that EVERY COACH that Coach Chizik has hired are GREAT COACHES and Really Good to GREAT RECRUITERS.
So, I'm guessing that you'll keep posting on this board, apparently because you'll never get a fuckin' clue.
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We need our first TigersX steel cage death match between The Prowler and GreasyDick.
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When a coach has to surround himself with great recruiters, then you're in serious trouble???? Where the hell did that come from? NO successful coach at this level will survive if he doesn't surround himself with good recruiters. NO coach can be in Miami, Atlanta, Louisiana, Memphis, Texas, Mobile etc. all at the same time.
Well, maybe Saban...sure..but we're talking about mere mortals here.
Seriously, what's the big stink up at the Crapstoned? Kevin Steele and Lance Thompson just left. Anyone crying about the football knowledge they're taking with them? Nope. Bama fans are holding their breath over top 5 recruits like Trent Richardson and hoping he doesn't open it back up now because of the defection. Recruiting is a huge part of any assistant's duties and no one, Pete Carroll included, is going to stay at the top without guys around him that can go out and get the job done on the recruiting trail.
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You, are a bammer. I haven't heard what "They" are telling me, I already fuckin' know...I know football and I know that EVERY COACH that Coach Chizik has hired are GREAT COACHES and Really Good to GREAT RECRUITERS.
So, I'm guessing that you'
ll keep posting on this board, apparently because you'll never get a fuckin' clue.
That's pretty weak prowler. Just because somebody doesn't buy into your (IMO seriously warped) view on Chiz doesn't mean they're a bammer.
Am I one? I think hiring chiz was a loser move. I'm just not as vocal or direct.
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That's pretty weak prowler. Just because somebody doesn't buy into your (IMO seriously warped) view on Chiz doesn't mean they're a bammer.
Am I one? I think hiring chiz was a loser move. I'm just not as vocal or direct.
I think yall are assembling a pretty good staff.
If Chiz will delegate responsibility, I think yall will do all right. I like having people working for me that are smarter than me. I makes my job a lot easier vs having to watch over them all the time fearing they will screw up.
Our old coach thought he was smarter than his staff. He still has the ones that are dumber than him. The really smart ones bailed. Now yall have a couple of them.
Watch Ole Miss start a nose dive in a year or two when Nutt gets his own players in there.
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I would have been disgusted to the point of vomiting if gruden had been hired. Nothing to do with his coaching abilities. He just comes across like one of the biggest posers ever with that scowl and mean look he is always forcing on his face.
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No sir you pull yours out of your ass. Gene Chizik is a great Coordinator. That means he advises the coach about just 1 facet of the game. As a head coach he sucks. Also when a "coach" has to surround himself with GREAT RECRUITERS then you are in serious trouble. But your so busy being a complete believe what ever the hell they tell you fucktard that you never ever pause to stop look and think for yourself.
Weasel, you are an idiot in so many ways. You knock chizik for "having" to surround himself with great recruiters. That's fucking retarded. Everyone knows that Chizik is an excellent recruiter himself. Seems like any intelligent hc would surround himself with great recruiters unless they want to be the next terry bowden on the plains.
The fact of the matter is that there were many extinuating circumstances at ISU that caused chizik to go 5-19 and they were pissed off when he left because they felt he was in the process of building a winner at possibly the biggest armpit in cfb.
Your and kaos' entire argument is based on his record and only his record at isu and as stated there is a lot more to that story than his record. When you're 5-19 and the school and fan base are pissed when you leave, obviously there is a lot more to the story than the record.
But you stay here and post like an absolute fucking retard on the subject if you must. Stating your point is one thing. To hammer into the ground that it is a loser deal and success is impossible makes you a nasty fucking boil on the ass of this board. It doesn't hold water. It makes you a conmplete dickhead in nearly everyones eyes.
Thanks for bringing this guy here kaos. He has added so much to the board.
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That's pretty weak prowler. Just because somebody doesn't buy into your (IMO seriously warped) view on Chiz doesn't mean they're a bammer.
Am I one? I think hiring chiz was a loser move. I'm just not as vocal or direct.
I don't fuckin' care what the bammers buy into. My point of view is Far, Far from warped. Now, yours and greaseydick's point of view is, IMO, horribly warped and there's a good possibility that it will never be straightened out.
A Good Head Coach surrounds himself with Good to Great Coaches and Good to Great Recruiters, a Great Head Coach knows what to do with them.
All your fuck buddy, greaseypussy, wants to do is cry, Five and Nineteen!!!! WAaaaaa.
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You, are a bammer. I haven't heard what "They" are telling me, I already fuckin' know...I know football and I know that EVERY COACH that Coach Chizik has hired are GREAT COACHES and Really Good to GREAT RECRUITERS.
So, I'm guessing that you'll keep posting on this board, apparently because you'll never get a fuckin' clue.
You sir do not know jack shit about football. You may know Broadway musicals, gay fashions and The Dave Matthews band ..... but you know zero about football.
When a coach has to hide behind his staff..... then you do not have a decent coach.
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You sir do not know jack shit about football. You may know Broadway musicals, gay fashions and The Dave Matthews band ..... but you know zero about football.
When a coach has to hide behind his staff..... then you do not have a decent coach.
Why do you hate Musicals?
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Weasel, you are an idiot in so many ways. You knock chizik for "having" to surround himself with great recruiters. That's fucking retarded. Everyone knows that Chizik is an excellent recruiter himself. Seems like any intelligent hc would surround himself with great recruiters unless they want to be the next terry bowden on the plains.
The fact of the matter is that there were many extinuating circumstances at ISU that caused chizik to go 5-19 and they were pissed off when he left because they felt he was in the process of building a winner at possibly the biggest armpit in cfb.
Your and kaos' entire argument is based on his record and only his record at isu and as stated there is a lot more to that story than his record. When you're 5-19 and the school and fan base are pissed when you leave, obviously there is a lot more to the story than the record.
But you stay here and post like an absolute fucking retard on the subject if you must. Stating your point is one thing. To hammer into the ground that it is a loser deal and success is impossible makes you a nasty fucking boil on the ass of this board. It doesn't hold water. It makes you a conmplete dickhead in nearly everyones eyes.
Thanks for bringing this guy here kaos. He has added so much to the board.
So I need to wait until mid season to add you to the list of "people who are ready for this shit to be over with and resume a legitimate coaching search".
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Why do you hate Musicals?
I don't hate musicals. I just understand football not musicals.
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You sir do not know jack shit about football. You may know Broadway musicals, gay fashions and The Dave Matthews band ..... but you know zero about football.
When a coach has to hide behind his staff..... then you do not have a decent coach.
I've played and learned under Coach Willie Wyatt (uat nose guard that was described as "a shear nightmare for any Center that lined up across from him"), Coach Thomas Rayam (The uat player that blocked the PSU FG), and Coach Tracy Rocker.....so, yeah, I know about football. Coach Chizik is doing everything BUT hid behind his staff, now if Coach Chizik was going Duck Hunting right around this time, then yeah you could say that he was hiding behind his staff....But, he isn't. Since you know so much about football, who would you've hired and give more than one reason why.
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So I need to wait until mid season to add you to the list of "people who are ready for this shit to be over with and resume a legitimate coaching search".
Your level of certainty of this being a failure shows that you are an irrational fool.
Hell the guy goes out and puts together a group of top notch coaches that happen to be great recruiters and you accuse him of hiding behind his staff. :rofl: :bugs: but :cage: I suppose he should have hired a bunch of average to below average coaches and took em under his wing and "coached them up". Hired a bunch of non-recruiters and painfully taught them people skills and how to recruit. That would only take years.
I don't know what your agenda is, but you have one here. Are you a big CTT fan? Do you just hate that the PTB get to change things when they want to?
One thing I know is that it was time for a change with ctt. I didn't really trust him to take another shot in the dark at OC, because that is what it always was with him. Our offensive side of the ball was ready for a clean sweep and we got it. We got an excellent defensive coach to replace tubs and the new guy seems very capable of bringing in some really good coaches on offense. Guys with character. Guys with proven track records. Guys that other big schools would love to have.
It is so obvious that you want chizik to fail and that is what is pissing everyone here off. You don't root against AU if you are an AU fan. You give the guy a shot. Don't come in and say, "no, I really want him to succeed", because you obviously don't. That makes you a complete dickhead in this case in my book.
All signs are good so far and I hope Chizik turns out to be the read deal and makes JJ look like a genius for hiring him. I know that thought causes you great mental anguish. One thing for certain, I have heard nothing but good things about Chizik afa being a good man inside and outside of football and you are a complete dickhead for saying some of the things you have on this board against him. You may not be a bammer, but there is no way in hell you are an AU man in my book. The numbers just don't add up.
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Proves you don't pay attention. His god awful record at ISU is only a part of the argument against Chiz. The record does reflect his abysmal mismanagement of the program but it is a symptom of the problems not the problem itself.
Make all the excuses you want but as Prowler so conveniently confirmed in another thread, ISU declined in every quantifiable measure of a coach while Chiz was there.
The only thing his disciples (and there are few) have to offer are excuses and hopes that he won't ass up as badly here.
Excuses are for losers. Winners win. Period.
You put Meyer, Saban, Nutt or Richt at ISU and they're not 5-19 over two years. No matter what excuses you come up with, great coaches don't have ten-game losing streaks.
Weasel, you are an idiot in so many ways. You knock chizik for "having" to surround himself with great recruiters. That's fucking retarded. Everyone knows that Chizik is an excellent recruiter himself. Seems like any intelligent hc would surround himself with great recruiters unless they want to be the next terry bowden on the plains.
The fact of the matter is that there were many extinuating circumstances at ISU that caused chizik to go 5-19 and they were pissed off when he left because they felt he was in the process of building a winner at possibly the biggest armpit in cfb.
Your and kaos' entire argument is based on his record and only his record at isu and as stated there is a lot more to that story than his record. When you're 5-19 and the school and fan base are pissed when you leave, obviously there is a lot more to the story than the record.
But you stay here and post like an absolute fucking retard on the subject if you must. Stating your point is one thing. To hammer into the ground that it is a loser deal and success is impossible makes you a nasty fucking boil on the ass of this board. It doesn't hold water. It makes you a conmplete dickhead in nearly everyones eyes.
Thanks for bringing this guy here kaos. He has added so much to the board.
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Proves you don't pay attention. His god awful record at ISU is only a part of the argument against Chiz. The record does reflect his abysmal mismanagement of the program but it is a symptom of the problems not the problem itself.
Make all the excuses you want but as Prowler so conveniently confirmed in another thread, ISU declined in every quantifiable measure of a coach while Chiz was there.
The only thing his disciples (and there are few) have to offer are excuses and hopes that he won't ass up as badly here.
Excuses are for losers. Winners win. Period.
You put Meyer, Saban, Nutt or Richt at ISU and they're not 5-19 over two years. No matter what excuses you come up with, great coaches don't have ten-game losing streaks.
I'm sorry but Meyer, Richt, Saban, or Nutt (good God) could not make ISU a winner in 2 years.
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I'm sorry but Meyer, Richt, Saban, or Nutt (good God) could not make ISU a winner in 2 years.
Did I say that? Nope.
I said they would not go 5-19. Instead of steady and comprehensive decline, there would have been improvement. Look at what Nutt did with 3-8 Ole Miss.
I hate all those bastards. I hope they all lose every game they coach. It sickens me to have to use them for comparison. But the fact is that those fucks win.
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Did I say that? Nope.
I said they would not go 5-19. Instead of steady and comprehensive decline, there would have been improvement. Look at what Nutt did with 3-8 Ole Miss.
I hate all those bastards. I hope they all lose every game they coach. It sickens me to have to use them for comparison. But the fact is that those fucks win.
Well Nutt got himself a pretty good QB (as you know from our offensive troubles that means alot) and played in an SEC west that was as weak as it has ever been. Hell AU almost did, and maybe should have beat OM this year, so how good were they? Nutt's turn around from 3-8 is not all that special. Let's see if he can do it again in 2009.
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You can rationalize why he shouldn't have and justify why Chizik didn't. But the proof is in the pudding.
Ole miss improved under Nutt. ISU went to hell under Chiz
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You can rationalize why he shouldn't have and justify why Chizik didn't. But the proof is in the pudding.
Ole miss improved under Nutt. ISU went to hell under Chiz
ISU has basically always been in hell, they did not need Chiz to take them there
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You can rationalize why he shouldn't have and justify why Chizik didn't. But the proof is in the pudding.
Ole miss improved under Nutt. ISU went to hell under Chiz
Coach O said he was 1 year away from having something special at Ole Miss, but he wasn't around to enjoy the success. Orgeron signed that gunslinger Jevon Sneed, the 2nd best Qb in the Sec in 09' the big time game changer. You can't give Nutt all the credit for Ole Miss's success, yes he's a lot better coach than Orgeron but look how Nutt left Arkansas? in a fucking mess.
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ISU has basically always been in hell, they did not need Chiz to take them there
Okay. So he took them from the fourth rung to the seventh. Point is, ISU didn't improve. That's the hallmark of a quality coach -- he takes the situation, whatever it is, and makes it better.
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Coach O said he was 1 year away from having something special at Ole Miss, but he wasn't around to enjoy the success. Orgeron signed that gunslinger Jevon Sneed, the 2nd best Qb in the Sec in 09' the big time game changer. You can't give Nutt all the credit for Ole Miss's success, yes he's a lot better coach than Orgeron but look how Nutt left Arkansas? in a fucking mess.
Coach O says. Of course he does. Yawyawyawyawyaw turnthecorner yawyawyaw.
Yes, Snead made a difference. But ask the Ole Miss players why they improved. They'll tell you it was Nutt.
Don't doubt that he left a mess in Arkansas. But that was sort of his pattern. A year of mess, a year of overachieving and a year of underwhelming. But he took the Hogs to three SEC title games (is that right?) in his time there.
I wouldn't want Nutt at AU because his coaching style is 90% emotional and I don't think you can sustain that. Rah-rah coaches eventually lose their grip and have to hold out until a new group comes in that hasn't already heard their bullshit.
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You can rationalize why he shouldn't have and justify why Chizik didn't. But the proof is in the pudding.
Ole miss improved under Nutt. ISU went to hell under Chiz
A ridiculous comparison. Ole Miss was loaded to the gills with talent when nutt got there as opposed to what chizik inherited at isu.
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You can rationalize why he shouldn't have and justify why Chizik didn't. But the proof is in the pudding.
Ole miss improved under Nutt. ISU went to hell under Chiz
ISU was hell before and after chiz left. Rhodes will have a shot maybe based on the groundwork chizik laid. We know he had something going because the folks there were upset when he left. They, and he, and the players, believed they were headed in the right direction. He started like 11 or 12 freshmen last year. You act like no great coaches have ever had similar situations to what he had at isu. Not saying he is a great coach because he has a lot to prove.
Chizik is, no doubt, a question mark. However, he is already making things happen on the plains afa coaching and possibly recruiting. You can hammer away on the record but there were many extenuating circumstances involved.
He is the coach and we are the fans. We can sit back and moan and whine like a bunch of losers or we can dwell on the positives. Like, we now have one of the best OC's in the country. I mean he passes your ultimate litmus test. He went into an armpit situation and made them the #1 offense in America. We have a great selection of assistants so far. Our recruiting appears to be staying solid. Let the 5-19 go and lets see what happens. If he fails pull out your block of cheese and whine away because many others will be to. It's just hard for others to see how you can't give the guy a chance based on what we've seen so far.
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A ridiculous comparison. Ole Miss was loaded to the gills with talent when nutt got there as opposed to what chizik inherited at isu.
If your going to compare the talent then you need to examine also the quality of the opponent that the talent is going to face. He went shitty and shittier against some weak opponents where his talent should have been more than good enough. So his talent at Auburn is going to have to be coached against the talent that Auburn has to play and out perform out play and yes outcoach the hardest murderers row of coaches from top to bottom ever assembled on the face of the planet. The players will give it their all but chizik as a headcoach is grossly outmatched.
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If your going to compare the talent then you need to examine also the quality of the opponent that the talent is going to face. He went shitty and shittier against some weak opponents where his talent should have been more than good enough. So his talent at Auburn is going to have to be coached against the talent that Auburn has to play and out perform out play and yes outcoach the hardest murderers row of coaches from top to bottom ever assembled on the face of the planet. The players will give it their all but chizik as a headcoach is grossly outmatched.
We'll soon see weasel. I just don't see why you and a few others are in such a hurry to skewer the guy. The fact is that nutt to chizik and isu to ole miss is apples to oranges comparison. It is a worthless waste of time to sit around and debate it one way or the other. The two situations were night and day and nutt has fielded his share of toilet bowl teams that were loaded with talent. I think if nutt went to isu he has a losing record his first two years as well but, as mentioned, it is a worthless debate.
The only thing worth mentioning is that chizik record at ISU couldn't have been much worse, but there are MANY extenuating circumstances involved. Since he has arrived on the plains he has done nothing but make good moves and things look very promising at the moment. If he royally fucks it up then we will go from there. At the moment I am genuinely optimistic that we are going to have a helluva year next year. If we don't, then we don't. Anything above 50% is a good improvement. I'm hoping for 8-4, 9-3 or better and looking at our schedule it is doable.
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Extenuating circumstances is a more polite way of saying "excuses.".
Winners don't need them.
Elite programs don't hire coaches whose entire resume consists of them.
ISU was hell before and after chiz left. Rhodes will have a shot maybe based on the groundwork chizik laid. We know he had something going because the folks there were upset when he left. They, and he, and the players, believed they were headed in the right direction. He started like 11 or 12 freshmen last year. You act like no great coaches have ever had similar situations to what he had at isu. Not saying he is a great coach because he has a lot to prove.
Chizik is, no doubt, a question mark. However, he is already making things happen on the plains afa coaching and possibly recruiting. You can hammer away on the record but there were many extenuating circumstances involved.
He is the coach and we are the fans. We can sit back and moan and whine like a bunch of losers or we can dwell on the positives. Like, we now have one of the best OC's in the country. I mean he passes your ultimate litmus test. He went into an armpit situation and made them the #1 offense in America. We have a great selection of assistants so far. Our recruiting appears to be staying solid. Let the 5-19 go and lets see what happens. If he fails pull out your block of cheese and whine away because many others will be to. It's just hard for others to see how you can't give the guy a chance based on what we've seen so far.
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Coach O says. Of course he does. Yawyawyawyawyaw turnthecorner yawyawyaw.
Yes, Snead made a difference. But ask the Ole Miss players why they improved. They'll tell you it was Nutt.
Don't doubt that he left a mess in Arkansas. But that was sort of his pattern. A year of mess, a year of overachieving and a year of underwhelming. But he took the Hogs to three SEC title games (is that right?) in his time there.
I wouldn't want Nutt at AU because his coaching style is 90% emotional and I don't think you can sustain that. Rah-rah coaches eventually lose their grip and have to hold out until a new group comes in that hasn't already heard their bullshit.
I was going to say the same thing, Nutt left Arkansas a mess. That mess also beat our ass this year. At least we have something to talk about for the next 8 months.
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Well, as you so love to say, you weren't there. You don't know squat. There is something about chizik that made JJ want to hire him. I'm guessing it is the same something that has enabled him to draw in some high caliber coaching talent to assist him. Everything about chizik looks great other than his record at the armpit he was in the process of turning around.
He is the fucking coach now matter how long and hard you beat your drum. Everyone knows how you feel. If he fails you will get all your kudos for ringing the warning bell harder than anyone except weasel. We get the freaking point. JJ has rolled the dice and he will either look like a genius or an idiot when it is over.
The ridiculous thing is that you refuse to acknowledge the positives and say, hey who knows, it is possible this could work. Fortunately there is a lot of good karma working to combat the negative nellies.
Extenuating circumstances is a more polite way of saying "excuses.".
Winners don't need them.
Elite programs don't hire coaches whose entire resume consists of them.
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I'll just inject that there is one simple lesson to be learned here that I learned last Sunday. There is going to be no debate, or arguing with Kaos. There will be no arguing with Greasy. They have ground rules nobody can follow. The fact is, just as there are as many different personalities on this board, there are different approaches in what to think about Auburn's coaching situation.
Nobody at this point has enough to prove anything one way or the other. I didn't. As much as it may pain him, Kaos doesn't either. Fact is, that regardless of what results came from ISU, it was different than Auburn's situation. One can NOT measure at this point, based on the many different variables, and sheer differences between the two schools geographically, socially and in many other ways to make an ironclad, or factual summation of Gene Chizik and his worth as Auburn Head Coach. Impossible. Period.
At this point, I think that the current actions of the staff, and opinions on the history and facts built every day is the only thing that can be debated.
Kaos telling me, tiger, jumbo, or tailgate we just fell off the turnip truck because we support Chizik, is an incredible example of playing smear the queer. All kinds of running around and occassional tackles, but the game will never end untill the dinner bell rings, or people just finally give it up. There just isn't an endgame in it. No way to say, "I win".
So, simply put, Kaos saying we're wrong about Chizik is ridiculous. However, at the same time, telling Kaos he's an idiot for believing what he does is ridiculous as well.
I'd rather just debate current recruiting, bama, the SEC and current events, rather than thread after thread of your stupid, no you're stupid.
JMO.... Keep hammerin' away though if you want....
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Al I got out of that is that you don't understand the rules of engagement (it was one simple rule, not the magna carta). And that you're queer.
Lots of coming out of the closet around here.
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Al I got out of that is that you don't understand the rules of engagement (it was one simple rule, not the magna carta). And that you're queer.
Lots of coming out of the closet around here.
I'd expect nothing from you but this type of response. Exactly my point.
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See, Kaos is retarded...and his breath stinks.
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You take shit waaaay to seriously.
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Al I got out of that is that you don't understand the rules of engagement (it was one simple rule, not the magna carta).
What value does that one simple rule have if you don't abide by it while trying to enforce it against others?
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You take shit waaaay to seriously.
Says Pot to the Kettle.
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You take shit waaaay to seriously.
Oh yeah, well your breath smells like shit, so I'm guessing that you eat it....YEAH!!!!!!
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Oh yeah, well your breath smells like shit, so I'm guessing that you eat it....YEAH!!!!!!
Figures. Third grade mentality. Explains a lot.
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Says Pot to the Kettle.
Hahahaha. You Fuckin' wish. This all for my amusement.
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He is the fucking coach now matter how long and hard you beat your drum. Everyone knows how you feel. If he fails you will get all your kudos for ringing the warning bell harder than anyone except weasel. I am one bell ringing mother fucker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I-4XS3XtZQ&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I-4XS3XtZQ&NR=1)We get the freaking point. JJ will look like an idiot when it is over. But pat dye will be happy.
The ridiculous thing is that you refuse to acknowledge the positives and say, hey who knows, it is possible this could work. It is also possible that the ghost of dead pirates could kill us all in our sleep. Fortunately there is a lot of good karma working to combat the pirate ghost.
I fixed your post for you. You can thank me when we hire a coach worth a damn.
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What value does that one simple rule have if you don't abide by it while trying to enforce it against others?
I still don't know where the statement you pulled out comes from or in what context it was made.
But if it makes you feel better I was probably bullshitting for effect.
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Hahahaha. You Fuckin' wish. This all for my amusement.
"Serious" + "amusement" then. You're language, attention and the persistance of your posts imply that "serious" might not be strong enough actually.
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"Serious" + "amusement" then. You're language, attention and the persistance of your posts imply that "serious" might not be strong enough actually.
And yet again you transfer your own thoughts and feelings to someone else.
I spend half my time laughing at the shit I see spewing around here. It's funny as hell to me.
If you let it get you worked up, if you forget that it's a message board that's your problem, not mine.
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And yet again you transfer your own thoughts and feelings to someone else.
I spend half my time laughing at the shit I see spewing around here. It's funny as hell to me.
If you let it get you worked up, if you forget that it's a message board that's your problem, not mine.
2.0 hasn't gotten worked up. This has been much nicer actually. In addressing your statement though, nobody sees you laughing. Quite the contrary actually. At least now we know your mission.
What are your thoughts on Grimes? My OPINION is, is that it's a good hire...
Thoughts?
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Don't know him.
I'm with GW a little in that if you have to obsess this much over a freaking OL coach there are problems at the top.
Quick -- without looking -- tell me who coaches the OL at USC, Florida, Ohio State or Oklahoma.
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Don't know him.
Fair enough.
I'm with GW a little in that if you have to obsess this much over a freaking OL coach there are problems at the top.
Haha. Okay. I actually wouldn't expect you and GW to come up with anything different.
Quick -- without looking -- tell me who coaches the OL at USC, Florida, Ohio State or Oklahoma.
Don't know. Don't follow them. However, I know Alabama fans could tell you about how important good OL coaching can be for example.
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Don't know him.
Fair enough.
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I'm with GW a little in that if you have to obsess this much over a freaking OL coach there are problems at the top.
Haha. Okay. I actually wouldn't expect you and GW to come up with anything different.
OK but that is because we understand what is going on
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Quick -- without looking -- tell me who coaches the OL at USC, Florida, Ohio State or Oklahoma.
Don't know. Don't follow them. However, I know Alabama fans could tell you about how important good OL coaching can be for example.
But I bet you can tell me who their head coaches are can't you. So you admit then that the headcoach is who the wins/losses and recruits are attribited to. So do you now admit in the face of your own admission that a strong respected head coach is more important than his underlings?
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Quote from: Kaos on Today at 02:44:55 PM
Don't know him.
Fair enough.
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I'm with GW a little in that if you have to obsess this much over a freaking OL coach there are problems at the top.
Haha. Okay. I actually wouldn't expect you and GW to come up with anything different.
OK but that is because we understand what is going on
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Quick -- without looking -- tell me who coaches the OL at USC, Florida, Ohio State or Oklahoma.
Don't know. Don't follow them. However, I know Alabama fans could tell you about how important good OL coaching can be for example.
But I bet you can tell me who their head coaches are can't you. So you admit then that the headcoach is who the wins/losses and recruits are attribited to. So do you now admit in the face of your own admission that a strong respected head coach is more important than his underlings?
GW, I'm glad the color button was easy for you since the quote function has kicked your ass from here to next Sunday. :poke:
Here's what makes your "I bet you can tell me who their head coaches are" statement moot. It IS possible that some coaches that are successful today, had little to none in other places. I don't mind that you have the opinion you do. In fact, Kaos is okay in my book as well. I'm just not going to run your response through a "bullshit" meter and call you blind and stupid for believing something different. There's just too much that's open to interpretation at this point. So, believe what you want. Beauty of the "X".
Just a note, I just think your delivery eight times out of ten detracts from your point. This is something I took FOREVER to learn. You'd be best learning that lesson as well. You're earning more "foes" than friends because of your delivery, more than your opinion on Chizik.
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I'm just not going to run your response through a "bullshit" meter and call you blind and stupid for believing something different. There's just too much that's open to interpretation at this point. So, believe what you want. Beauty of the "X".
You might want to pass that along to others. Maybe a memo or something. Seems to have been forgotten lately.
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Feel free to run me and my post through the bullshit meter any place, any time. I guess my delivery is a tad on the bad side. But then again I was sold on this joint as being an anything goes speak your mind honestly kind of forum.
I have a hard time sitting on my hands and not speaking my mind while others allow Auburn to be placed on the human sacrifice table just to satisfy the egos of certain individuals. I live not far outside the "West Vance" area and have to deal with the zombie horde of bammers on a daily basis. There are still morons today who wear the dark pink that still think shula would have been having the success that satan is having had they left him alone. That is what skeers me to death about the members of the Auburn family who accept or even enjoy the hiring of the chizpanzee. The similarities of the hiring and the blankness stupidity behind their eyes (yes I've had the stoumach wrenching displeasure of shaking both their hands).
chizik got the silver spoon shoved up his ass thanks to certain prominent members of the Auburn "family" who decided that his loyalty to them would suffice. But I don't hold that against him, I would have taken the job and got the holy hell outta Iowa too. At least now he gets to have "Former Auburn Headcoach" on his record and that will beenough to get him a job in division II ball one day.
Again I do not hold your personnal opinion on the chizpanzee against you. Hell if I ever run across your path please say the following phrase "Auburn can survive stupid hires" and the first round of drinks are on me. Call me a son of a bitch and ask me just how big my fist is and I'll prolly spring for the second round too.
Let's agree to disagree.
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You might want to pass that along to others. Maybe a memo or something. Seems to have been forgotten lately.
How 'bout I pass it to you then, and you pass it to your left after reading. Fair? It is something we ALL need to do though. Shit, it's been more than just a little intense here lately.
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I've played and learned under Coach Willie Wyatt (uat nose guard that was described as "a shear nightmare for any Center that lined up across from him"), Coach Thomas Rayam (The uat player that blocked the PSU FG), and Coach Tracy Rocker.....so, yeah, I know about football. Coach Chizik is doing everything BUT hid behind his staff, now if Coach Chizik was going Duck Hunting right around this time, then yeah you could say that he was hiding behind his staff....But, he isn't. Since you know so much about football, who would you've hired and give more than one reason why.
Ahhhh yes I found where you explain how much better of a player and how much more you know football than the rest of us.
Lets see if you played under the Rock then you were still a squirt of your daddy's nutbutter when I was playing ball.
Just because the information was put out there for you does not mean you were able to understand it.
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How 'bout I pass it to you then, and you pass it to your left after reading. Fair? It is something we ALL need to do though. Shit, it's been more than just a little intense here lately.
The things that have been done to us have made everyone a little on edge lately.... except for certain bleating sheep who I see infest this board also.
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Feel free to run me and my post through the bullshit meter any place, any time. I guess my delivery is a tad on the bad side. But then again I was sold on this joint as being an anything goes speak your mind honestly kind of forum.
I have a hard time sitting on my hands and not speaking my mind while others allow Auburn to be placed on the human sacrifice table just to satisfy the egos of certain individuals. I live not far outside the "West Vance" area and have to deal with the zombie horde of bammers on a daily basis. There are still morons today who wear the dark pink that still think shula would have been having the success that satan is having had they left him alone. That is what skeers me to death about the members of the Auburn family who accept or even enjoy the hiring of the chizpanzee. The similarities of the hiring and the blankness stupidity behind their eyes (yes I've had the stoumach wrenching displeasure of shaking both their hands).
chizik got the silver spoon shoved up his ass thanks to certain prominent members of the Auburn "family" who decided that his loyalty to them would suffice. But I don't hold that against him, I would have taken the job and got the holy hell outta Iowa too. At least now he gets to have "Former Auburn Headcoach" on his record and that will beenough to get him a job in division II ball one day.
Again I do not hold your personnal opinion on the chizpanzee against you. Hell if I ever run across your path please say the following phrase "Auburn can survive stupid hires" and the first round of drinks are on me. Call me a son of a bitch and ask me just how big my fist is and I'll prolly spring for the second round too.
Let's agree to disagree.
I hear ya man. Look, it's okay to have your opinion. We all live, and react to different things with different circumstances steering those reactions in a hundred different ways. Chances are we'll disagree about other things down the road, but once the arguement has been had, it's been had and should end there. Just my opinion...
It's cool. ....and just so you know... I wasn't able to say that at one time. haha....
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How 'bout I pass it to you then, and you pass it to your left after reading. Fair? It is something we ALL need to do though. Shit, it's been more than just a little intense here lately.
Show me where I've accused anybody on here of being a bama fan or of being stupid and I'll read it.
I'll cop to calling people dense, but that's only out of love and concern so it doesn't count.
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Show me where I've accused anybody on here of being a bama fan or of being stupid and I'll read it.
I'll cop to calling people dense, but that's only out of love and concern so it doesn't count.
I said "it's something we ALL need to do." I was inferring that we all could afford to take a chill pill, but if you think I was attacking you with that statement, I don't know what to tell you.
Chill out Beavis! Have a drink! :bar:
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I hear ya man. Look, it's okay to have your opinion. We all live, and react to different things with different circumstances steering those reactions in a hundred different ways. Chances are we'll disagree about other things down the road, but once the arguement has been had, it's been had and should end there. Just my opinion...
It's cool. ....and just so you know... I wasn't able to say that at one time. haha....
But we don't dissagree about pussy or do we??
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I said "it's something we ALL need to do." I was inferring that we all could afford to take a chill pill, but if you think I was attacking you with that statement, I don't know what to tell you.
Chill out Beavis! Have a drink! :bar:
You said you were going to hand it to me first. What was I supposed to think?
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But we don't dissagree about pussy or do we??
Somewhere during today's discourse I distinctly remember him saying he was queer. So maybe?
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But we don't dissagree about pussy or do we??
My absence from the board over the weekend, and from the Basketball gathering in Auburn, was in direct relation to my love, and need of pussy. My fiance was here. Pussy is good, and our friend.
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My absence from the board over the weekend, and from the Basketball gathering in Auburn, was in direct relation to my love, and need of pussy. My fiance was here. Pussy is good, and our friend.
Let's all raise a glass...to the pussy.
TO THE PUSSY
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Ahhhh yes I found where you explain how much better of a player and how much more you know football than the rest of us.
Lets see if you played under the Rock then you were still a squirt of your daddy's nutbutter when I was playing ball.
Just because the information was put out there for you does not mean you were able to understand it.
I'd say that I've probably forgotten more about College Football and Football in general than you know all together.
FYI, I've never stated how good of a player that I was, nor will I ever....and my post was in response to yours talking about how I don't know anything about College Football and something about the Opera.
As for speaking about my father, that's a touchy subject and you might want to keep him out of your post for now on. Capish
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I'd say that I've probably forgotten more about College Football and Football in general than you know all together.
FYI, I've never stated how good of a player that I was, nor will I ever....and my post was in response to yours talking about how I don't know anything about College Football and something about the Opera.
As for speaking about my father, that's a touchy subject and you might want to keep him out of your post for now on. Capish
Ah, Christ on buttered toast.
Do you seriously want to crank all this up again?
Nobody cares how much football you forgot. Nobody cares if you played for Knute Rockne and carried Bear Bryant's Dickel bottle.
You've got an opinion that's rooted in things you find important. Doesn't mean you know one molecule of shit more than anybody else when it comes to this debacle.
Let it go. You're never going to convince me (or it looks like GW either) that this was a good hire. Not now, not in a million years. I've been over it a million times. No matter what the result, the HIRE itself was bad and always will be. Sometimes you do things that are a bad idea and they work out okay. Doesn't mean that the idea was right. It was still wrong.
Capice?
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You may wanna lose the 'tude also boy. I have nothing personnal against anyone on this forum nor do I have time to. But the nuances of football are not the X's and O's. It is something else. I remember when the chizpanzee was hired they kept repeating "he had a plan.. hwe showed us a plan...etc." well fuck me running a coach with a plan. I've never in my born days seen nor heard of a coach with a plan to win. All I have seen from him is some decent hires in his understaff, Roof being hired to be scarificed and released at the end of the next season to buy him some more time. and some requoting of standard coaching phrases. I also see a 5-19 record against cupcakes and an unwillingness to accept any coaching responsibility for it. I see booster/alumni donations falling by a considerable margin while the $$$ numbers are up at Tennessee, Miss.St., and other schools that hired new coaches.
Football is a big picture, a picture you are having trouble grasping. I can't explain it to you but I will try. Its like they say about Texas Hold'em it takes minutes to learn and a lifetime to master. Its the subtle nuances of the human psyche that you don't understand about football. A man with 2 state championships and a superbowl ring told me that its not what the stats say that seperates the greats from the losers, its something more Zen like. But you either know what I'm talking about or you thinkits hokey.
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You may wanna lose the 'tude also boy. I have nothing personnal against anyone on this forum nor do I have time to. But the nuances of football are not the X's and O's. It is something else. I remember when the chizpanzee was hired they kept repeating "he had a plan.. hwe showed us a plan...etc." well fuck me running a coach with a plan. I've never in my born days seen nor heard of a coach with a plan to win. All I have seen from him is some decent hires in his understaff, Roof being hired to be scarificed and released at the end of the next season to buy him some more time. and some requoting of standard coaching phrases. I also see a 5-19 record against cupcakes and an unwillingness to accept any coaching responsibility for it. I see booster/alumni donations falling by a considerable margin while the $$$ numbers are up at Tennessee, Miss.St., and other schools that hired new coaches.
Football is a big picture, a picture you are having trouble grasping. I can't explain it to you but I will try. Its like they say about Texas Hold'em it takes minutes to learn and a lifetime to master. Its the subtle nuances of the human psyche that you don't understand about football. A man with 2 state championships and a superbowl ring told me that its not what the stats say that seperates the greats from the losers, its something more Zen like. But you either know what I'm talking about or you thinkits hokey.
I'll tell you what "BOY", you have your opinion, I have mine...no matter who's right or wrong.
I just feel that you're wrong with the way that you go around trashing Auburn on the football forums like you do, but hey, that's your thing...you're gonna make it do what it do.
As for the man that told you that "it's not what the stats say that seperates the greats from the losers, it's something more Zen like", that's exactly right.
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Here here Birdman!
TO THE PUSSY!!
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Finally, someone recognizes an issue we can all (Well, most us) can agree on.
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I'll tell you what "BOY", you have your opinion, I have mine...no matter who's right or wrong.
I just feel that you're wrong with the way that you go around trashing Auburn on the football forums like you do, but hey, that's your thing...you're gonna make it do what it do.
As for the man that told you that "it's not what the stats say that seperates the greats from the losers, it's something more Zen like", that's exactly right.
Yes Mam it is right.
And for the record I have not ever trashed Auburn. You have the time to look up my post. I have trashed the self serving turds inpower who sacrificed the football, no the athletics program in order to get someone in place who's A-1 responsibility was to not be CTT. I have trashed this abortion of a coaching search. I have trashed this hire. ButI have never trashed Auburn.
Now if you don't like the way I trash this shittiest of shitty hires I'm fine with that but Chowder you need to pay attention..... because I have never nor will you ever hear or read where I have trashed Auburn.
If you can't read and understand that what has been wrote and laid out in plain english in front of you how do you ever expect anyone to think you have the ability to think on the higher level that seperates winners from losers?
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The fact that you continuously trash Coach Chizik and just about all of his staffing hires, before they've given anyone any reason to, is what makes me feel that you're trashing Auburn. They're all really good to great coaches and really good to great recruiters, now we'll see if they can gel together, with the players on the roster, and the prospects coming this year.
But with the way that you've trashed just about everything, inregards to Coach Chizik, it would seem like you'd like nothing else but to see him fail. If he fails, then Auburn fails.
So...with your inability to think on a higher level, to see that the coaching hires, that Coach Chizik has made, have been great ones, up to this point, makes you a loser? :poke:
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Nope once again you got your shit all wadded up sideways. Now show where I trashed the staffing hires?
Dumbass except for roof (who I feel was hired to be fired as the scapegoat for next year) I feel most any of them would be a better HC than the chizpanzee.
I do not like the chizpanzee. He has made a career off of riding the coattails of some damn good coaches. When it came time for him to stand on his own he folded like a well worn condom.
Remember he said that you cannot win championships at Auburn. Then we went and hired his 5-19 can't win games ass as a head coach?
Fuck him, and fuck all who support him instead of supporting Auburn.