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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on April 27, 2022, 12:33:44 PM
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In this past recruiting class, the biggest story was Bimbo Fisher hauling in, what many said, was the top rated class ever signed. I don’t know all the in’s and outs of how every program is handling the NIL dealio, but many reports are that some are setting up these “collectives”, wherein boosters, donors etc. can simply contribute to the fund and you’re basically paying players from it. Whatever A&M is doing, big money programs are sure to follow.
I think it’s too early to tell, but the question is whether or not this will somewhat even the playing field. Here’s the thing. I’ll go ahead and be Captain Obvious in saying Bama is where they are because they have been paying whatever it takes to get whoever they want since Lord Saybinz got there. Yes, everybody cheats. Everybody is looking for an edge. But according to one of Bama’s long time staffers, neither the NCAA or SEC wants to police their activities, because having that juggernaut, that dynasty, is reeeeaally good for business. And when the Auburn recruiting coordinator asks me for a $30K donation because, “We don’t have the resources to pay what Coach Saban is paying for players”, that kind of confirms that. I told him I didn’t have $30K to spare, but I would pick up lunch.
But things changed in an instant. Now, there are no rules. Now, just flat out paying players is legal, and there’s nothing to police. All the Bag Men are out of work. So, if Bama will offer a $500K “NIL Deal” for a 5* wide receiver, he may wind up at LSU because they can go $750K. If you’re a program with stupid rich boosters who love em’ some good ole State U Football, there’s no reason you can’t load the wagon with equal talent to anybody in the country.
But, I do question if it really will level the playing field, because after hearing some back and forth on sports talk this morning, I don’t believe the Crimson horde will allow it. The topic was when Lord Saybinz retires, who would replace him. What I gleaned from the conversation was that unless Lord Saybinz could clone himself as a younger Lord Saybinz, nobody could possibly take that job. One of the hosts said the Bama Nation doesn’t want Dabo because he’s got to prove he can win. He’s fallen off. (They were 10-3 last year) But Bama, it doesn’t matter who the coach is anymore. You sold your souls to the devil when you hired Saban. They’ve given him every resource possible to get to the top and stay there. They feel it’s their birth right to be Nayshunal Champeens year in and year out. They will accept nothing less. So, now that everybody is playing by the same rules, or lack thereof, are they simply going outbid everybody?
Wait, so you’re saying LSU offered a $750K deal? How about $1.25 million?
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It'll level the playing field for the twenty or so teams with any actual chance at a natty in any given year.
Saban hates it because he's been proven to be exceedingly mediocre when everyone has access to the same caliber of player.
I'm for it because it'll help Auburn.
I understand it's going to put the squeeze on a bunch of little schools. Hate it for 'em.
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It'll level the playing field for the twenty or so teams with any actual chance at a natty in any given year.
Saban hates it because he's been proven to be exceedingly mediocre when everyone has access to the same caliber of player.
I'm for it because it'll help Auburn.
I understand it's going to put the squeeze on a bunch of little schools. Hate it for 'em.
I'm still not 100% sold it will help Auburn...unless the Nevilles or Tim Cook decide to open up the checkbook to go along with Yella Fella.
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It'll level the playing field for the twenty or so teams with any actual chance at a natty in any given year.
Saban hates it because he's been proven to be exceedingly mediocre when everyone has access to the same caliber of player.
I'm for it because it'll help Auburn.
I understand it's going to put the squeeze on a bunch of little schools. Hate it for 'em.
Troof. On a side note, not that the NCAA has any teeth anymore, but Lord Saybinz dick buddy, Mark Emmert is stepping down next year.
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Troof. On a side note, not that the NCAA has any teeth anymore, but Lord Saybinz dick buddy, Mark Emmert is stepping down next year.
Just in time for a bammer grad to take over.
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Just in time for a bammer grad to take over.
Steve Shaw FTW
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I'm for it because it'll help Auburn.
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Beat me to it. I wanna hear this one. We are at the bottom of the ncaa and sec with nil right now. Our first crack at it went belly up. Our coach hates it. Aggie on the other hand is raping errrbody with it.
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Oh shit, we didn't knock it out of the park with our first step out of the gate!!!! The Sky is FALLLIN!
Fuck's sake, some of y'all need a valium, blowjob and a vacay.
The landscape is new and changing. The early adopters might get a minor advantage by hitting on some winning strategies, but those will be copied and incorporated with other things that we're trying.
The point is, the same 20 or so teams are still going to be in contention and Auburn has the resources to compete with most of them. This can only help by removing the danger of courting/competing for the superstars.
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Oh shit, we didn't knock it out of the park with our first step out of the gate!!!! The Sky is FALLLIN!
Fuck's sake, some of y'all need a valium, blowjob and a vacay.
The landscape is new and changing. The early adopters might get a minor advantage by hitting on some winning strategies, but those will be copied and incorporated with other things that we're trying.
The point is, the same 20 or so teams are still going to be in contention and Auburn has the resources to compete with most of them. This can only help by removing the danger of courting/competing for the superstars.
:meme:
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Jar sent this story last night.
Isaiah Wong wants a bigger NIL deal, or he's transferring.
The Miami guard's NIL agent, Adam Papas, says that his client will enter the transfer portal on Friday if his NIL compensation is not increased, according to ESPN.
"If Isaiah and his family don't feel that the NIL number meets their expectations they will be entering the transfer portal tomorrow, while maintaining his eligibility in the NBA draft and going through the draft process," Papas said.
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There are certainly enough stupid money boosters at Auburn to put us in the mix as far as NIL. My point, or maybe conjecture, above was that the mentality of the Bama fan base/boosters will probably be one of, "If that's the way we're doing it now, we're just going to make sure and outbid everyone else".
Go ahead and set up a $10 million collective. We'll put $25 million in the kitty. Lord Saybinz hath spoken.
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"NIL agent"... :jaw:
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Oh shit, we didn't knock it out of the park with our first step out of the gate!!!! The Sky is FALLLIN!
Fuck's sake, some of y'all need a valium, blowjob and a vacay.
The landscape is new and changing. The early adopters might get a minor advantage by hitting on some winning strategies, but those will be copied and incorporated with other things that we're trying.
The point is, the same 20 or so teams are still going to be in contention and Auburn has the resources to compete with most of them. This can only help by removing the danger of courting/competing for the superstars.
Projection much?
Who tf said anything to that degree? You’re simply being questioned as to why you think this is some kind of advantage for auburn right now with valid reasons listed. We’re actually getting left behind more since the advent of it. We’re not remotely pulling on the same end of the rope here. And that probably won’t change anytime soon.
No one is stepping up to the plate to put the organization needed in place. The last guy tried but lacked the skills to get buy in from big money and he also had a terrible subscription model.
We have a coach who - openly - does not particularly care for players getting paid via nil. Auburn has a longgggggg way to go to resemble a heart beat in nil in football.
If you think the sky is falling then that’s you. No one said that. Just giving you some facts…..
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Oh shit, we didn't knock it out of the park with our first step out of the gate!!!! The Sky is FALLLIN!
Fuck's sake, some of y'all need a valium, blowjob and a vacay.
The landscape is new and changing. The early adopters might get a minor advantage by hitting on some winning strategies, but those will be copied and incorporated with other things that we're trying.
The point is, the same 20 or so teams are still going to be in contention and Auburn has the resources to compete with most of them. This can only help by removing the danger of courting/competing for the superstars.
Pull that string of pearls out of your ass and listen to them pop. Like a wet machine gun if you yank them just right.
Here’s my problem with AU and the NIL.
I don’t believe Auburn can or will do it right. For years we’ve watched out chief rivals blatantly and openly buy players. And succeed. We knew the landscape but for reasons entirely Auburn we never broke bad. We might have been grey but we refused to go full black even as the most corrupt enterprise in US history (with the exception of the Clinton and Biden cabals) set up shop just hours away.
Why? The reasons are myriad.
1) Fear. The last time corruption ran rampant in Tuscaloosa the situation was similar. Bahr Brunt’s cozy relationship with the NCAA and adoration from the media afforded them immunity and kept us in the crosshairs. Those of us who were there remember. And as we saw them come after us with the Cam situation…. It felt familiar.
2) Hubris. I’m part of this. We are AUBURN dammit. We don’t pay players. We are above that. They come to Auburn because they love it as much as we do. They should want to play for free just to wear that uniform. We won’t buy championships like those other filthy riff raff. We have a fucking CREED, dammit. Our boosters are less likely to line up to shovel money at kids. They just are. That goes back to gentleman Shug. It’s not who we were or who we are.
3) Attractiveness. This is on Gus. Dye, Tuberville and even Chiz had a history of getting kids to the NFL. Say what you will but that’s gone. Playing at AU gives you no draft day benefit of the doubt. It’s not a positive. We are not a gateway or a path. Gus didn’t have and wouldn’t make the connections. Harsin doesn’t have them. Even if you’re on equal NIL footing - and AU is NOT - it’s not enough if you don’t believe the coaching staff can get you ready for your ultimate goal. And let’s be honest. Who here believes that now?
4) Strategerie. We have a dysfunctional administration. The worst. I love AU but the place is fucked up in a hundred dozen ways.
5) Us. We are not the worst fan base when it comes to being obnoxious. We are the most fickle. The most divided. The most likely to inflict damage on ourselves. We rarely pull in the same direction. I’m one of the old ones who sees AU through a nostalgic lens. The AU I grew up with and fell in love with does not exist any more. It just doesn’t. The AU experience was vastly different for my daughter than it was for me, my bother, my uncle, my dad or my grandparents. We say we are a family. And we are. A fractured family that doesn’t get along really well. More than any other college I know of we have factions. Some just screaming into the sky. Some actively plotting the demise of another faction.
I may be wrong. I honestly don’t care if I am or not. A lot of the AU I loved died years ago. It’s my opinion, however, that AU will not be able to unite in a manner to compete in this idiotic NIL world. Five, maybe ten years or less? We will be what we’ve always denied and fought not to be- irrelevant. A second tier program. It would not surprise me to see the top 15-20 teams abandon the NCAA to establish a super conference. If that happens AU won’t be among the chosen few.
If I’m honest? I don’t really care any more. The college game as it is now holds little interest to me.
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Some details in the interview they mention here:
https://twitter.com/1thom_/status/1521134227630215168
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Some details in the interview they mention here:
https://twitter.com/1thom_/status/1521134227630215168
Sweet.
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Some details in the interview they mention here:
https://twitter.com/1thom_/status/1521134227630215168
Wrong. Just another fuckhole with a computer. Opinion no more or less valid than mine, CCT, yours or greasy weasel’s.
Auburn is not in the game here. We can’t even see the game from the where we sit.
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Wrong. Just another fuckhole with a computer. Opinion no more or less valid than mine, CCT, yours or greasy weasel’s.
Auburn is not in the game here. We can’t even see the game from the where we sit.
Sure. Nothing happening.
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2022/03/28/Upfront/Name-Image-Likeness.aspx
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Sure. Nothing happening.
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2022/03/28/Upfront/Name-Image-Likeness.aspx
Glad to see Auburn is trying to stay ahead of the game. Or at least stay in the game.
I like the collective concept, and that may ultimately be the way college football, however it is governed, maintains some control on this thing. I have no problem with athletes casing in, as long as it doesn't involve revenue sharing, which in my opinion, would be the beginning of the end for the sport.
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How can we afford to pony up for NIL when they are charging $10,000/year for a tailgate tent? Where to put our money???
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Five, maybe ten years or less? We will be what we’ve always denied and fought not to be- irrelevant. A second tier program. It would not surprise me to see the top 15-20 teams abandon the NCAA to establish a super conference. If that happens AU won’t be among the chosen few.
And so it has begun...
https://twitter.com/247Sports/status/1521946511105576965
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And so it has begun...
https://twitter.com/247Sports/status/1521946511105576965
Are...you citing a blog preseason poll (in early May) to support Kaos's position that Auburn will be left out of any prospective "super leagues"????
I feel like my head might explode.
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Are...you citing a blog preseason poll (in early May) to support Kaos's position that Auburn will be left out of any prospective "super leagues"????
I feel like my head might explode.
We ain't gettin' the snub on any Super Conference. Here's a long copy/pasta from 247 written this past December. Just scroll to the good parts.
From overwhelming fan support to expansive media contracts and conference revenue sharing, college football is big business and some programs are expected to recover in record-setting financial fashion following a return to normalcy this season. With attendance numbers beginning to strengthen again, the programs in this list saw substantially-improved revenue figures this fall, but that data isn't available just yet.
Using financial information from Forbes, GOBankingRates ranked the top 25 teams based on their three-year average revenue prior to the start of the 2021 season. A running total of each program's "three-year average profit" was also used for reference.
The pandemic-infused season of 2020 altered some of these numbers and those will be reflected when the next grouping of fiscal averages are released spring 2022.
Here's a look at college football's most valuable programs entering the 2022 season.
25. Clemson Tigers
Estimated annual value: $77 million
With a three-year profit average of $27 million according to the GoBankingRates study, Clemson football is worth more now than it ever has been previously because of Dabo Swinney and the program's two national championships in recent years. Will the Tigers sustain their success after losing veteran coordinators Brent Venables and Tony Elliott to head coaching jobs this month? Clemson will also have a new athletic director heading into the offseason.
24. Ole Miss Rebels
Estimated annual value: $84 million
As long as the Rebels are able to keep Lane Kiffin as their head coach, this number should soar in the coming years. Ole Miss heads to the Sugar Bowl this season after winning 10 games, the most ever during the regular season at the program.
23. Wisconsin Badgers
Estimated annual value: $86 million
Like all major college football programs, Wisconsin's updated numbers over a three-year average (when those are available in 2022) will be lower thanks to the pandemic and its effect on revenue. The Badgers' athletic department reportedly cut $26 million in expenses during the past fiscal, a number likely bigger at other programs.
22. Michigan State Spartans
Estimated annual value: $87 million
Mel Tucker and the Spartans agreed to a 10-year, $95 million contract extension this season after a 10-2 finish and trip to the New Year's Six, a banner year at Michigan State who is investing in its future with the sizable deal.
21. Iowa Hawkeyes
Estimated annual value: $89 million
One of several Big Ten football programs in the top 25 nationally, Iowa keeps printing money thanks to success and a hungry fanbase. The Hawkeyes finished one win shy of a conference championship this season under veteran Kirk Ferentz.
20. Nebraska Huskers
Estimated annual value: $91 million
Following a staff overhaul, Scott Frost accepted a salary reduction for 2022 earlier this season on a restructured deal. Despite four-consecutive losing seasons under his watch, Nebraska fans have not wavered in their support as one of college football's most loyal groups.
19. Washington Huskies
Estimated annual value: $92 million
Washington hopes the hire of Kalen DeBoer brings instant credibility to a program that has fallen on hard times since Chris Petersen's departure. The contract is for five years and worth up to $16.5 million before incentives kick in based on DeBoer's level of success. Seems affordable compared to other signings this cycle, doesn't?
18. USC Trojans
Estimated annual value: $93 million
Keep this number in mind and let's revisit five years down the road when new coach Lincoln Riley has the Trojans inside the top five nationally as a perennial championship contender. USC won this season's coaching carousel after coaxing Riley away from Oklahoma with a record contract.
17. Arkansas Razorbacks
Estimated annual value: $95 million
This number will continue to rise under the direction of Sam Pittman, who took a dormant SEC program and pushed the Razorbacks to eight wins in Year 2. An Outback Bowl win would go a long way in continuing this team's momentum into 2022 and create quite the fanfare for next season.
16. South Carolina Gamecocks
Estimated annual value: $95 million
The end of the Will Muschamp era is 2020 resulted in a sizable buyout, but the Gamecocks believe they've got the right guy in charge now with Shane Beamer taking over. Beamer finished 6-6 in his first season at a program that was in the SEC cellar, so it's obvious South Carolina is moving in a positive direction.
T-15. Florida State Seminoles
Estimated annual value: $96 million
FSU felt it had to make a change in leadership in 2019 when the Seminoles departed ways with Willie Taggart before landing Memphis coach Mike Norvell. A pandemic-infused campaign ensued, but there was hope entering a full season in 2021 that progress would be noticeable. FSU missed out on bowl season with a loss to Florida, but the program is on solid footing, or at least better than it was two years ago.
T-15. Oregon Ducks
Estimated annual value: $96 million
With Nike founder Phil Knight as the program's biggest donor is making sure to fill its current coaching vacancy following Mario Cristobal's departure to Miami with the right choice. The Ducks have one of college football's most recognizable brands and is trying to get back to its heightened level of success sustained under Chip Kelly's reign.
13. Penn State Nittany Lions
Estimated annual value: $104 million
Like other major programs who have invested in their head coach, James Franklin is currently embarking on a new, 10-year deal with the Nittany Lions. It's clear the power brass in Happy Valley believe in Franklin and don't want to see him go elsewhere in the future.
12. Tennessee Volunteers
Estimated annual value: $113 million
Tennessee is energized with the arrival of coach Josh Heupel and will try and end its season with a win in Nashville against Purdue in the Music City Bowl. Positive momentum is all any program could ask for entering 2022 and still recovering from revenue losses during the 2020 season.
11. LSU Tigers
Estimated annual value: $114 million
LSU is banking on new coach Brian Kelly to challenge for championships after bringing him over from Notre Dame for a sizable fee. Revenue numbers are a three-year stretch are widely-skewed for the Tigers, given their perfect season in 2019 that was followed by two disappointing campaigns in the middle of a pandemic.
T-10. Auburn Tigers
Estimated annual value: $117 million
Per Auburn Undercover, Auburn and the other 13 colleges in the SEC received a $23 million supplement from the league to help with the finances occurred dealing with lost revenues as the result of the COVID-19 pandemic. Auburn was limited to 20 percent capacity for home football games last season, the major revenue-producing sport. Additionally, the league’s stringent testing requirements added expenses for programs in all sports.
T-10. Florida Gators
Estimated annual value: $117 million
Can the Gators get back to being an annual title contender at an Urban Meyer-like level? Those are the expectations in Gainesville and is precisely why Florida moved on from Dan Mullen and his buyout in November in favor of Louisiana's Billy Napier. Florida has shifted recent focus to facility improvements too, a big step in becoming a mainstay again inside the top 10.
8. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Estimated annual value: $120 million
Notre Dame enters an era of somewhat uncertainly in 2022 with 35-year-old defensive coordinator Marcus Freeman taking over as a first-time head coach, this coming after Brian Kelly unexpectedly left for LSU without notice. Fans are energized and ready to support Freeman, but like all new coaches, the wins must come early.
7. Georgia Bulldogs
Estimated annual value: $125 million
No SEC program has made a bigger statement than Georgia this season, but the Bulldogs could not finish the deal in Atlanta against Alabama. However, the quest for the program's first national championship since 1980 is still in play for Kirby Smart's team. The nation's most consistent recruiter alongside Alabama, Georgia is built to last under Smart, but needs to find a way to win those showdown games against the Crimson Tide.
6. OKLAHOMA SOONERS
Estimated annual value: $129 million
There's a season Brent Venables didn't take the Auburn job in 2020 and waited for a prime opportunity at blueblood Oklahoma. This program is already built to win big and despite losing coach Lincoln Riley to USC this month, should not miss a beat in terms of annual revenue with the former Clemson defensive coordinator and Sooners assistant coming back to lead. The promise of SEC sizable growth in the coming years as a new entry into the nation's superleague will only expand Oklahoma's footprint.
5. OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
Estimated annual value: $132 million
Ohio State sells itself, but you have to think many were worried that losing Urban Meyer a couple years ago may have resulted in a diminished placement within the Big Ten, but the opposite has happened. Ohio State has continued its impressive play as an annual title contender under Ryan Day and the 2021 season is the first time in five years the Buckeyes did not play for a Big Ten Championship. Ohio State changed defensive coordinators to make sure two regular-season losses don't show up against next fall.
4. ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE
Estimated annual value: $134 million
There doesn't seem to be a shut-off switch for the SEC's annual money-printer, not with Nick Saban signed through 2028 and the national championship continuing to go through Tuscaloosa every year. Alabama won the national title during the abbreviated 2020 campaign and has a chance to win another this season after knocking off Georgia for the league title earlier this month. Sustained success is one of the toughest challenges in sports and somehow, the Crimson Tide have managed to be the "it" program for more than a decade without a hiccup.
3. MICHIGAN WOLVERINES
Estimated annual value: $139 million
If Michigan wins the national championship this season, there's a chance the Wolverines could be in the No. 2 or top spot by the time revenue figures are updated sometime after the next fiscal year. Jim Harbaugh and the Wolverines captured the program's first Big Ten title in more than a decade, have sold-out the Big House every home game during an era in which ranked teams are finding it increasingly more difficult to fill venues weekly and now have seen their star his supernova status with a playoff trip. No program nationally has done more for its bottom line than the Wolverines in 2021.
T-1. TEXAS A&M AGGIES
Estimated annual value: $147 million
Ten years and $75 million. That's what deep-pocketed Texas A&M supporters were willing to pay Jimbo Fisher a couple of years ago to leave Florida State for the Aggies and bring a title to College Station, Texas. It hasn't happened yet, but the Aggies are in a better spot as an annual contender and have made a divot in SEC recruiting. Losing Mike Elko to Duke leaves a substantial hole on Fisher's staff with the Early Signing Period approaching. Texas A&M is in a great place financially, even post pandemic, and resources being earmarked for football is a great sign for Fisher and his staff.
T-1. TEXAS LONGHORNS
Estimated annual value: $147 million
Football is everything in Texas, evidenced by the two programs in this list both being from the Lonestar State. The Longhorns exhausted resources and put everything they had into Steve Sarkisian and a new coaching regime this season and it still resulted in a six-game losing skid at one point, the longest drought for Texas since the 1950s. It got worse before it got better and forward process must be shown in 2022 for the revenue giant in Austin.
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This is the way.
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This is the way.
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Are...you citing a blog preseason poll (in early May) to support Kaos's position that Auburn will be left out of any prospective "super leagues"????
I feel like my head might explode.
So now you know how the rest of us feel when you get on your liberal keyboard and spit your gibberish opinions on the rest of us.
This "blog preseason poll (in early May)" is no different than any other article being posted and shared in early May. My point was that AU is dwindling in the national eye. AU is starting to resemble USC (west coast), in the fact that we were very promising program with talent and now the most you get from them is they may be in a preseason poll but overall are just mediocre at best.
Habbernots and TPTB need to realize that we are falling right now and our "prominence" is becoming a thing of the past. To sum it up, they need to get their heads out of their rumps, and start working overtime, making deals with people to bring NIL opportunities to the plains. Like their heads were on fire and their asses were catching type urgency.
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So now you know how the rest of us feel when you get on your liberal keyboard and spit your gibberish opinions on the rest of us.
This "blog preseason poll (in early May)" is no different than any other article being posted and shared in early May. My point was that AU is dwindling in the national eye. AU is starting to resemble USC (west coast), in the fact that we were very promising program with talent and now the most you get from them is they may be in a preseason poll but overall are just mediocre at best.
Habbernots and TPTB need to realize that we are falling right now and our "prominence" is becoming a thing of the past. To sum it up, they need to get their heads out of their rumps, and start working overtime, making deals with people to bring NIL opportunities to the plains. Like their heads were on fire and their asses were catching type urgency.
Get your facts out of here again. Its about the feels man.
Oh, by the way....we got NIL Punked again today by Knoxville, with Julian Phillips. The whiffs just keep coming. I hope Bruce is screaming at some fools.
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Wes may tilt slightly to the left with his politics....okay, his friends call him Lefty, but he loves him some Auburn football.
Yeah GH, I think the Julian Phillips dealio really does expose where we are on NIL. We may be trying, and it looks like we are, but you gotta' keep Bruce happy and get him what he needs.
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Wes may tilt slightly to the left with his politics....okay, his friends call him Lefty, but he loves him some Auburn football.
Yeah GH, I think the Julian Phillips dealio really does expose where we are on NIL. We may be trying, and it looks like we are, but you gotta' keep Bruce happy and get him what he needs.
What did I say?
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What did I say?
No tomatoes?
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No tomatoes?
K gonna go all Snags and cut some folks.
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Here is my warning.
We are so far behind in the stupid NIL nonsense we may never catch up. Perception-wise we are trolling along the catfish bottom with Mississippi State.
If we cannot get it together, it's not only going to sink Harsin's (dead in the water) football ship, but we will lose Bruce Pearl to a program that can at least compete for recruits and not be submarined by push-pop hillbillies. And then it's over.
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Here is my warning.
We are so far behind in the stupid NIL nonsense we may never catch up. Perception-wise we are trolling along the catfish bottom with Mississippi State.
If we cannot get it together, it's not only going to sink Harsin's (dead in the water) football ship, but we will lose Bruce Pearl to a program that can at least compete for recruits and not be submarined by push-pop hillbillies. And then it's over.
I’m hoping this is not the case, and I think this recruiting cycle for Hartline will tell the story. So far, I haven’t seen anything to indicate that it’s affecting Pearl. There haven’t been any real high profile players hitting the portal, and the players he added look to make us one of the favorites in the SEC again. Yes, we missed out on the Phillips kid, but he had every option in the world, and who said he was a lock for Auburn anyhowz?
On another note, the State of Missouri just passed an amendment, which will allow coaches to get involved with helping players get NIL deals. Didn’t know that was prohibited, but I would expect most football crazed States to follow suit.
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https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2022/05/17/ohio-high-school-principals-vote-against-name-image-likeness-nil/9798275002/
OHSAA referendum: Name, image, likeness (NIL) in Ohio high schools fails by wide margin
I suspect states like Illinois and California to allow it for high school students sooner or later.
Then watch 5* athletes start moving.
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I’m hoping this is not the case, and I think this recruiting cycle for Hartline will tell the story. So far, I haven’t seen anything to indicate that it’s affecting Pearl. There haven’t been any real high profile players hitting the portal, and the players he added look to make us one of the favorites in the SEC again. Yes, we missed out on the Phillips kid, but he had every option in the world, and who said he was a lock for Auburn anyhowz?
On another note, the State of Missouri just passed an amendment, which will allow coaches to get involved with helping players get NIL deals. Didn’t know that was prohibited, but I would expect most football crazed States to follow suit.
Everybody. Including his momma and them.
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Everybody. Including his momma and them.
Yep ^....even the Vol crystal ball guys on Rivals and 247 had him pegged for Bruce.
We got outbid....period. Nothing more or less. Its that simple.
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From Julian Phillips himself. This was part of a piece from on3 released on April 1st. All the buzz about Auburn was because he took an official there in April. Understandable. But it's clear the guy was looking for a hot program with a recent history of putting players in the show. That's the common theme. Yes, Auburn fits the bill, but so does Tennessee and Gonzaga and a lot of others.
We probably did get outbid. Nobody will ever know either way. Certainly not all the bloggers and recruiting "insiders", who were WRONG AGAIN!!!
“I have been hearing from a lot of schools,” Phillips said. “Tennessee, Florida State, Gonzaga, Auburn, South Carolina, and Southern Cal are some of the schools I hear from most off the top of my head. I took all five visits for my junior year; I still have three or four official visits left for my senior year.”
Tennessee: “Coach (Rick) Barnes has had a lot of success coaching bigger wings like myself. They just won the SEC championship, so they are a hot team right now. He is putting guys, more importantly guards, in the league. He has a lot of experience winning.”
Florida State: “Coach (Leonard) Hamilton runs a great program. They have had a lot of success with guys like me; he puts them into the league. Even though they didn’t have a great year this year, they are bridging in a lot of guys who could help.”
Auburn: “Coach (Bruce) Pearl is another hot team who played really well in the SEC. He also has had success putting a lot of guys into the NBA; look at Jabari Smith this year. I think I could fit into their system and how they play as well.”
Southern Cal: “I have a good relationship with Coach (Andy) Enfield. I got to visit there my junior year and really liked it. He has had some success putting guys in the league. They also had a good year this year, following last year’s good year. Everything is good with them.”
South Carolina: “I talked to Coach (Lamont) Paris once already. He said he would start talking to me more once I get back home to Columbia after the season ends. I don’t know much about him personally, but I know the USC culture. Being from South Carolina, I saw them a lot growing up and have been around that program a lot. He did not set an exact date or time that we would start back talking, but he said we would be talking ‘in the future.’
Gonzaga: “That program and the culture speaks for itself. They have had a lot of success on the court with winning. And they put a lot of guys, at every position, in the pros. Their coaches tell me how much they like my game, and they think that I could fit into their culture and system, and I could help them a lot.”
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From Julian Phillips himself. This was part of a piece from on3 released on April 1st. All the buzz about Auburn was because he took an official there in April. Understandable. But it's clear the guy was looking for a hot program with a recent history of putting players in the show. That's the common theme. Yes, Auburn fits the bill, but so does Tennessee and Gonzaga and a lot of others.
We probably did get outbid. Nobody will ever know either way. Certainly not all the bloggers and recruiting "insiders", who were WRONG AGAIN!!!
“I have been hearing from a lot of schools,” Phillips said. “Tennessee, Florida State, Gonzaga, Auburn, South Carolina, and Southern Cal are some of the schools I hear from most off the top of my head. I took all five visits for my junior year; I still have three or four official visits left for my senior year.”
Tennessee: “Coach (Rick) Barnes has had a lot of success coaching bigger wings like myself. They just won the SEC championship, so they are a hot team right now. He is putting guys, more importantly guards, in the league. He has a lot of experience winning.”
Florida State: “Coach (Leonard) Hamilton runs a great program. They have had a lot of success with guys like me; he puts them into the league. Even though they didn’t have a great year this year, they are bridging in a lot of guys who could help.”
Auburn: “Coach (Bruce) Pearl is another hot team who played really well in the SEC. He also has had success putting a lot of guys into the NBA; look at Jabari Smith this year. I think I could fit into their system and how they play as well.”
Southern Cal: “I have a good relationship with Coach (Andy) Enfield. I got to visit there my junior year and really liked it. He has had some success putting guys in the league. They also had a good year this year, following last year’s good year. Everything is good with them.”
South Carolina: “I talked to Coach (Lamont) Paris once already. He said he would start talking to me more once I get back home to Columbia after the season ends. I don’t know much about him personally, but I know the USC culture. Being from South Carolina, I saw them a lot growing up and have been around that program a lot. He did not set an exact date or time that we would start back talking, but he said we would be talking ‘in the future.’
Gonzaga: “That program and the culture speaks for itself. They have had a lot of success on the court with winning. And they put a lot of guys, at every position, in the pros. Their coaches tell me how much they like my game, and they think that I could fit into their culture and system, and I could help them a lot.”
Thank you for all that you do to keep us updated. This is great. The interviews are fresh and the analysis is tittylating.
Makes me want to strap some of this hot pussy on you.
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He's right, and he's a hippo-krit copy/pasta from Roy Gaydos @ foxynews :popcorn:
Alabama football coach Nick Saban went on a lengthy rant against Texas A&M and accused the Aggies of buying players via name, image and likeness (NIL) deals.
Saban, who has likened the emergence of NIL deals and the increased use of the transfer portal to free agency, spoke Wednesday night at a conference in Birmingham and took issue with how Texas A&M was able to attain the No. 1 recruiting class in 2022.
"I know the consequence is going to be difficult for the people who are spending tons of money to get players," Saban said, via AL.com. "You read about it, you know who they are. We were second in recruiting last year. A&M was first. A&M bought every player on their team. Made a deal for name, image and likeness.
"We didn’t buy one player. Aight? But I don’t know if we’re going to be able to sustain that in the future, because more and more people are doing it. It’s tough."
Jimbo Fisher said in May there had to be "rules and guardrails" when it came to NIL, according to The Eagle. He added "uniform rules, laws and everything that goes with it" should be in place. He denied, however, NIL impacted his players.
Saban accused smaller schools of making big money deals for players. He accused Jackson State of paying a player $1 million to come to the school, referencing Travis Hunter flipping his commitment to the school from Florida State. Tigers head coach Deion Sanders denied that notion.
"We have a rule right now that said you cannot use name, image and likeness to entice a player to come to your school. Hell, read about it in the paper," Saban said. "I mean, Jackson State paid a guy a million dollars last year that was a really good Division I player to come to school. It was in the paper and they bragged about it. Nobody did anything about it."
Saban made clear he has no problem with players being able to make money via NIL deals but had issues with how schools are allegedly exploiting the current system. He said the NCAA can’t enforce their rules "because it’s not against the law."
The legendary college football coach said recruits in Alabama won’t commit to the Crimson Tide unless they match or beat whatever they’re getting from other schools. He said creating and using collectives funded by boosters wasn’t what NIL was supposed to be.
" The thing that I fear is at some point in time, they’re just going to say, ‘We’re going to have to pay players. If we start paying players, we’re going to have to eliminate sports,'" Saban added. "This is all bad for college sports. I mean, we probably have 450 people on scholarship at Alabama, whether they’re women’s tennis players, softball players, golfers, baseball players -- non-revenue sports that have, for years and years and years been able to create a better life for themselves because they’ve been able to get scholarships and participate in college athletics.
"That’s what college athletics is supposed to be. It’s not supposed to be something where people come to make money and you make a decision about where you go to school based on how much money you’re going to make. You should make a decision based on where you have the best chance to develop as a person, as a student and as a player, which is what we’ve always tried to major in and we’re going to continue to that. Hopefully there’s enough people out there that will want to do it."
Last week, the NCAA’s Division I Board of Directors approved guidance developed by a group of college administrators clarifying the types of NIL payments and booster involvement that should be considered recruiting violations.
"Specifically, the guidance defines as a booster any third-party entity that promotes an athletics program, assists with recruiting or assists with providing benefits to recruits, enrolled student-athletes or their family members," the NCAA said. "The definition could include ‘collectives’ set up to funnel name, image and likeness deals to prospective student-athletes or enrolled student-athletes who might be considering transferring."
The new guidance is effective immediately, but the organization neither changed its rules nor created new ones. The NCAA directed enforcement staff to look for possible violations that may have occurred before May 9, 2022, but to "pursue only those actions that clearly are contrary to the published interim policy, including the most severe violations of recruiting rules or payment for athletics performance."
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Hey Sabbin! Fuck you!
https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/alabama%27s-long-history-unpunished-ncaa-violations-under-nick-saban
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I'm sure everybody has by now, but if you haven't heard Fisher's response....GOOGLE CHROME that shit, sharpish. I just read a bunch of Finebaum's quotes from an interview this morning. He didn't pull any punches in saying Saybin came away from that exchange bloodied and beaten.
PF was right in saying nobody has ever challenged Lord Saybinz. If you think about it, as much as I loathe a slimeball like Fisher, it was eye opening to hear a prominent Corch like himself say, "That mofo's a cheatin' bitch. I know. I used to work for the man." (Slightly paraphrasing there)
But what also blows my mind is why LS even went there in the first place. And then to say I've never paid players. And he said it with a straight face. Gawt damn!!! There is obviously a very strict unwritten code in the game. Everybody cheats. All of em'. But this is the only time I've ever heard two coaches, especially two of this stature, come out throwing hands at each other about being dirty.
Wow! When are Media Days?
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I'm sure everybody has by now, but if you haven't heard Fisher's response....GOOGLE CHROME that shit, sharpish. I just read a bunch of Finebaum's quotes from an interview this morning. He didn't pull any punches in saying Saybin came away from that exchange bloodied and beaten.
PF was right in saying nobody has ever challenged Lord Saybinz. If you think about it, as much as I loathe a slimeball like Fisher, it was eye opening to hear a prominent Corch like himself say, "That mofo's a cheatin' bitch. I know. I used to work for the man." (Slightly paraphrasing there)
But what also blows my mind is why LS even went there in the first place. And then to say I've never paid players. And he said it with a straight face. Gawt damn!!! There is obviously a very strict unwritten code in the game. Everybody cheats. All of em'. But this is the only time I've ever heard two coaches, especially two of this stature, come out throwing hands at each other about being dirty.
Wow! When are Media Days?
It's been a great day on twitter with all of this shit. Great time for the old Never To Yield article (something about a fire) with all the links and evidence to resurface. I googled around, but couldn't find it. The search function here...leaves something to be desired.
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While I am disappointed that we didn't get Phillips, I am not upset about it and far away from Mad about it. We managed to snag, Yohan, Westery, Donaldson and Broome and we sit ranked #13 in recruiting rankings. Those along with what he have coming back and I think we are in good shape. If we got outbid for him then so be it. We outbid a lot of teams for Yohan.
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While I am disappointed that we didn't get Phillips, I am not upset about it and far away from Mad about it. We managed to snag, Yohan, Westery, Donaldson and Broome and we sit ranked #13 in recruiting rankings. Those along with what he have coming back and I think we are in good shape. If we got outbid for him then so be it. We outbid a lot of teams for Yohan.
These NIL deals are absolutely ridiculous.
I refuse to sign up contractually to give any of these kids a million dollar plus package. That’s insane.
I do not, however, mind giving them a check. There is no amount that scares me. I’ll write the shit out of check, in no time.
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These NIL deals are absolutely ridiculous.
I refuse to sign up contractually to give any of these kids a million dollar plus package. That’s insane.
I do not, however, mind giving them a check. There is no amount that scares me. I’ll write the shit out of check, in no time.
We all know where that ends...
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And while we are here talking about this. Fuck you bammers!
All I have heard since 2010 was SCAM NEEWTEEN!!! YALL CHEATED!
Today? Well, we all know everybody cheats.
Fuck you all with an XL bag of Goat Aids infected dicks.
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And while we are here talking about this. Fuck you bammers!
All I have heard since 2010 was SCAM NEEWTEEN!!! YALL CHEATED!
Today? Well, we all know everybody cheats.
Fuck you all with an XL bag of Goat Aids infected dicks.
Thou mayest ingest a satchel of Richards.
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I can't think of two coaches I dislike more than Lord Saybinz and Jimbo Fisher. Jimbo went scorched earth back in February, and then again last week when LS made his comments about A&M buying every one of the players in this past class. I heard the full interview this morning, some of which is referenced below. For whatever reason, the writer left out some of the more pertinent quotes from Fisher. It was a contentious interview, and I had to give the man credit. He held the reporter's feet to the fire. And he was right!
Look, I get it. Common sense tells you that class was bought and paid for. But then, so were so many of Saybinz' classes. The parts of the interview that were left out, were where Jimbo said, "All this started with some blog from a guy going by "Bro-Bible/Sliced Bread". He put it on social media, so automatically, it must be true. He didn't do his research, Nick Saban didn't do his research, and you (The reporter) didn't do yours. Whether or not what Fisher is saying about this class not being bought is true or not, he's 100% spot on with how this all came about. Anywho....copy/pasta from Matt Young at chron.
A day after Texas A&M coach Jimbo Fisher called a press conference to rip Nick Saban as a “narcissist” and say “maybe somebody should have slapped” the Alabama coach, Fisher visited San Antonio and got into a heated verbal tussle with KSAT-TV’s Greg Simmons.
Fisher, who was in San Antonio for a speaking engagement, appeared agitated when Simmons continued to press him on Saban’s accusation that Texas A&M “bought every player” in their No. 1 recruiting class.
Texas A&M had 11 of the 30 players in their top-ranked recruiting class enroll early in January. Of those 11 recruits already on campus, Fisher said only one has a deal for his name, image and likeness (NIL). The NCAA has made it legal for players to earn money with NIL deals, but it has caused concern among some coaches that it will allow teams to try and buy recruits.
There was social media chatter - all unverified - that Aggies boosters had raised more than $30 million in NIL money to help entice recruits, which is what set Saban off in his rant last week.
“One guy has an NIL deal. Just one. So, all these stories you’re hearing are complete lies,” Fisher said in an interview that KSAT aired for the first time Sunday night.
"It was written on social media so everybody believes it. You got news channels believing it, big people believing it, and you believed it. You’re news, you’re media. Do you guys not research?,” Fisher asked Simmons.
Someone off camera tried to interrupt the interview a couple times, but both times Fisher said he had it under control, including one time telling someone off camera, “Just let me handle it.”
“I’m asking you, did you do your research? See, you can’t answer,” Fisher tells Simmons. “You just assumed, and that’s the way this world goes now. As soon as it’s written on social media and someone says it, you believe it. So where does that put you guys as reporters?”
Fisher later chuckled when he appeared to momentarily stump the reporter.
"Nobody wants the truth. You want a story and a click and a hit,” Fisher said. “What’s the next question? See, I threw you off your game right now. You’re off your game, you’re out of questions.”
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I will hate Fisher with the burning heat of a billion suns for all eternity.
I wish him nothing but epic failure on a monumental scale.
If he were bagging groceries I’d try to get him fired from that.
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I will hate Fisher with the burning heat of a billion suns for all eternity.
I wish him nothing but epic failure on a monumental scale.
If he were bagging groceries I’d try to get him fired from that.
and while I agree totally....im still glad he said what he said about Saban last week. It needed to be said. By somebody. Anybody.
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and while I agree totally....im still glad he said what he said about Saban last week. It needed to be said. By somebody. Anybody.
I don't want to give the guy too much credit, but, while ripping Lord Saybinz a new one was schweet, his indictment on our current environment of disinformation was epic. One nameless blogger makes an accusation. Social media runs with it and after it has been parroted countless time, it becomes truth. Sound familiar?
If you hear the interview I was referencing, Fisher embarrasses the reporter, and rightfully so. Again, I personally loathe the guy, and yes, my OPINION, is that this class was in fact, bought and paid for. But until somebody has something more substantial than Bro-Bible/Sliced Bread bloggage, go fuck yourself.
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Just saw an article about Bo Nix' NIL money at Auburn. Between 15 minute appearances on the JBoy Show, and Milo's Tea, he made between $8,000.00 and $9,000.00 for the semester.
Not what I was expecting.
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Just saw an article about Bo Nix' NIL money at Auburn. Between 15 minute appearances on the JBoy Show, and Milo's Tea, he made between $8,000.00 and $9,000.00 for the semester.
Not what I was expecting.
Talk about overpaid...
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Just saw an article about Bo Nix' NIL money at Auburn. Between 15 minute appearances on the JBoy Show, and Milo's Tea, he made between $8,000.00 and $9,000.00 for the semester.
Not what I was expecting.
Gotta figure Daddy Phil K. is gonna give his star QB a raise.