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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Kaos on December 26, 2020, 01:55:07 PM
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Since I know everyone here is waiting impatiently for my take on the Harsin hire, might as well create my own thread.
Background (as well known): Kaos had grown disillusioned with all things Auburn lately. I was never completely sold on the Gus Malzahn hire, although the first 22 games caused me to doubt my thought processes. But something changed in that 23rd game. Something caused a Gus glitch in a fumbled fourth down against Texas A&M and he was never the same. I don't know exactly what it was, but the confident, determined cocksure Gus turned into an indecisive, befuddled, overthinking mess. That team tumbled from 7-1 to an 8-5 finish. Every season thereafter was marked by the same galling displays of ineptitude at times, by the same inability to develop a quarterback, by the same reliance on certain players to the point of breaking them, by the same confusion on the sidelines, by the same patterns of failure that led to a steady progression of four-plus loss seasons. I won't belabor the lack of resources that I said from the outset was a liability, or the stubborn (or simply inept) refusal to adapt. Nothing was going to change, that much was assured. As such, it was time to see if Auburn could do any better. No malice, but we either accepted what he clearly was or we aspired to something different and hopefully better.
After he was canned, the local media gleefully took the opportunity to ridicule Auburn and smear our reputation. As usual, the "insiders" knew nothing, but said much more. As usual, they were able to make Auburn look about as bad as possible. Just a bunch of meddling hillbillies with fortunately fat pockets. And we (me included, sadly) took their bait and fretted. As the names appeared on the alleged hot board -- Kevin Steele, Hugh Freeze, Mario Cristobal, Neal Brown, Bill Clark, Billy Napier, Jiminy Cricket -- the Kaos despair grew. As the stories of Steele privately coordinating a coup (reminding me of the despised democrats like Schumer and the old Bill Oliver tales) Kaos resigned himself to walking away forever if the boosters who supposedly encouraged and abetted the coup attempt got their way and Steele took the reins.
And then Auburn hired Harsin. It wasn't what I expected. For the first time since 1981, Auburn didn't "Auburn." We didn't hire a Terry Bowden because we liked his deddy's name and he was friends with a banker (prior to porking his daughter, of course). We didn't poach a guy from a pine box (even though that hire turned out well). We didn't grab a 5-19 walking bag of ego because the AD enjoyed going to church with him. We didn't get a guy with no experience because the AD thought Waffle House was fine dining.
So what about Harsin? It's a pretty bold move, honestly. Auburn's current AD has staked his career on it. If the guy fails? He will take the AD and the president down with him more than likely. If he fails, the good-ol-goober cabal of pine-tree barons and daddy's-money titty babies will almost certainly swoop in with "told-ya-so" smugness and destroy Auburn forever.
As for Harsin himself? He's got his detractors in Boise, mainly because he's blunt, demanding and direct. I personally believe that's exactly what Auburn needs right now. The change from "good guy Gus" to hardass Harsin is a cultural shift. Reminds me of Carter's America shifting to the Reagan years or Barfield's buddy boys turning into Dye-hards.
We have the dumbest, most impatient fanbase in the world. That's going to have to be controlled. I've seen our moron fans wondering aloud if "yew thank we culd get ol' Coarch Boom to come back? He wuz a good-un! I'd make him say no three times afore I give up. And whut bout one-a them Grimes boys?? They shore could coarch the offense line! An' hey, LSU gon' cut Pellini loose, and he useta be a helluva cordnator. Oh, man, whatchoo thank bout maybe gettin Chiz back for the defense? He lives in Auburn and I thank he'd wanna coarch agin! We definately gotta keep Caddylack there, he's a legend! Reckon why he cain't jus keep Steele and let the defense be, it's been perty good! Man, I thank we ain't got no choice but ta try and get Coarch Whitt back. Reckon we could git TRob or Coarch Rocker back? An' we gotta keep Coarch Garner, he's the glue on thet staff!"
I've come to loathe a certain (large) segment of our fanbase. They're so much like the Bama fans I grew up despising. Some of that is, I think, because they are the late-comers. They're the progeny of former Bama fans who switched sides during AU's run in the 80s. Their grandpappy was a Bammer, but deddy picked Auburn. They've got that blood in them.
The key to learning to live with Harsin is patience. I don't expect miracles out the gate. Wouldn't surprise me if next year's record is no better than that of the average Gus season. At that point our moron fans will start the "hayull, he ain't no better than Gus" griping.
It's going to take patience.
Why will it take patience?
Recruiting.
Goober Gus did pretty well at getting skill players in. But the offensive line recruiting over the last four seasons has been ABYSMAL. When was the last time Gus got a 4-5 star OL in who stuck around? There's a significant void on the offensive line and that's not something Harsin can overcome in a year or two. It's going to take two recruiting cycles to resolve that.
I'm not looking for some miracle from the jump. I want to see a team that's organized, plays hard and doesn't look like a monkey fucking a deflated football for long stretches.
I think Harsin can give us that while he learns the region and builds on recruiting. Caveat? If he doesn't recruit moderately well, none of the rest matters. He's got to do that.
I think he's a decent coach, but his entire life has been pretty much in Boise. I've spent a lot of time in Boise over the last ten years or so. It's a completely different world. It moves at a different pace. But football is football. Knowing how to develop and motivate players doesn't really change no matter where you're from. The question is, can Harsin overcome the culture shock and the reality of battling for recruits with programs that dwarf his Broncos. If he can? He's got a chance.
Kaos? All but a few of his AU things had been put away. Sickened by the BLM virtue signaling, disgusted by the bumbling administration, by the destruction of everything that Auburn meant to me (Jacobs started that). They're coming back out again. This hire -- whether it succeeds or fails -- has given Kaos the hope that things can and will change. That the voices of the REAL Auburn actually do mean something. The refusal to accept Steele because of his perceived betrayal and the fact that the administration heard us gives Kaos a glimmer of hope that other things can be reversed if we just care enough. Maybe we CAN run all the fucking white tents out and let people do their own tailgating again. That'd be a start.
I'm not hyping the Harsin train, but I'm encouraged by what it might mean in the long run for the school and program that's always been mine even though it never really was.
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100% with you on the Harsin hire.
True he has to recruit at an insane pace as any new head coach in the SEC West would if they want to contend. And I don't want any old hands hanging around unless Harsin finds them an absolute must to retain, even Garner.
Encouraged that he is considered a developer of talent and indeed he needs a few cycles to refine the product we see on the field.
Going to require an adjustment period and some patience but I'm very pleased with the new direction and future of Auburn Football.
Nevertheless, I still reserve the right to bitch and complain as I see fit.
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2 things. Agree 100% basically. Love the hire because it's outside the box and not good ole boy. The other, I'd love to have TRob and Rocker back in Auburn. Both are damn good position coaches. TRob has coached some damn good DB's. Plus Rocker is a mean SOB and his players took on that persona. I'd love for us to have mean, nasty DL. Both are also solid recruiters.
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2 things. Agree 100% basically. Love the hire because it's outside the box and not good ole boy. The other, I'd love to have TRob and Rocker back in Auburn. Both are damn good position coaches. TRob has coached some damn good DB's. Plus Rocker is a mean SOB and his players took on that persona. I'd love for us to have mean, nasty DL. Both are also solid recruiters.
Nothing against them specifically, just the concept that so many can’t seem to look beyond our past.
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Nothing against them specifically, just the concept that so many can’t seem to look beyond our past.
I gotcha. Yeah, it seems our fan base isn't happy unless we have someone that is connected to Auburn in some capacity. We hired Pearl and he has worked out great. Hoping this non-Auburn hire works out as good as him.
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I'm out. I was out before Gus was fired, I'm staying out now. What little gear I still had, donated or vacuumed sealed in a box in the back of the garage. 44 years of fandom gone, but it was time. I'll still hang around here - y'all are too fun not to - but I'm out.
1. Bryan Harsin is a very good coach who knows how to build culture, and doesn't give a damn what the internet says about him. This is a good thing but it won't work (or be allowed to work) at Auburn. If he's lucky, Texas will fire Tom Herman next year, Urban Meyer will once again say "No" to them, and he'll be off to Austin. It's a better fit for him anyway and I think he'll do quite well there. If that doesn't happen, see #5 below.
2. Auburn culture (the culture we all know, love, and cherish) is dead as a doornail. We are now petulant children who wish we could be any other team other than Auburn. It's our fatal flaw. Probably always was but we had a stretch where the enemies were down and we looked poised to take the spot. We were merely warming it.
3. Allen Greene's career at Auburn is over. When this fails - more on that in a bit - he'll go down with it along with the NCAA basketball sledgehammer that IS coming for Bruce Pearl and the basketball team. Pearl's been in their sights for over a decade, now they will have their pound of flesh. Dr. Gogue doesn't care. He already retired once and only came back to save Auburn from itself after the disastrous Dr. Leath tenure. (The ripples of Leath's poison are still flowing strong throughout campus, by the way.) Greene will be lucky to run a YMCA in Yazoo City, Mississippi once this is done.
4. Auburn is a mediocre football program. Glimpses of more always fool the fools. Cam and Cecil Newton are the worst things that ever happened to us. I want more than anything for Cam to go away and never darken Lee County's boarder again. Charlatan. We are more like those 2004 & 2013 teams. Tons of heart and guts and always just a bit short.
5. Harsin will have the chance to succeed here. Too many power brokers with hurt butts and feelings will conspire to see that his run is ruinous. Shut doors to recruits, lack of funds for capital projects, and the impatient fan base (and willing media to fan the flames) will lead to his downfall in three seasons or less. Once again, JABA will reign and 8-4 will seem like a fresh spring's dream. They'll go back to the "Auburn man" tree and continue the wallowing in mediocre slop all while the price for everything goes up.
6. It's not fun anymore. The corporate feel of the experience, the willingness to try and be everything to everyone while emulating everyone else makes Auburn a cheap facsimile and a dated one. In a decade, no one will remember that Auburn once chased the league's elite as we fight Ole Miss and Arkansas for lower-tier bowl game spots and 3 star problem child recruits the Big Boys didn't want anyways.
In an image, here's what I think is Auburn's football future.
(https://www.iamag.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Melting-the-iron-Throne-8.jpg)
I could be totally wrong about all of the outcomes above, but I don't think I'm wrong about why I think that's the course and causes.
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Great post, k. I sure hope we can keep Coach G, too.
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Damn. Ain’t Six just a little ray of sunshine...
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I'm out. I was out before Gus was fired, I'm staying out now. What little gear I still had, donated or vacuumed sealed in a box in the back of the garage. 44 years of fandom gone, but it was time. I'll still hang around here - y'all are too fun not to - but I'm out.
That's where I was before. I get it, but the Harsin hire and the refusal to knuckle under to the booster mafia gave me a little hope. It might be just another case of the abuser saying he's not going to do it any more and me stupidly believing, but I want to give it another chance.
1. Bryan Harsin is a very good coach who knows how to build culture, and doesn't give a damn what the internet says about him. This is a good thing but it won't work (or be allowed to work) at Auburn. If he's lucky, Texas will fire Tom Herman next year, Urban Meyer will once again say "No" to them, and he'll be off to Austin. It's a better fit for him anyway and I think he'll do quite well there. If that doesn't happen, see #5 below.
Same said about Dye. I think he gets his chance. We'll see in how the assistant spots are filled. If Kodi, Garner, Steele are still around when the staff if built then I'll move back to the edge again.
2. Auburn culture (the culture we all know, love, and cherish) is dead as a doornail. We are now petulant children who wish we could be any other team other than Auburn. It's our fatal flaw. Probably always was but we had a stretch where the enemies were down and we looked poised to take the spot. We were merely warming it.
It might be dead. Part of our problem these days is that we took on a huge influx of ex-Bammers. Kids who grew up in the Brunt culture but switched during the Dye years. They brought their attitude with them. Ones like me who suffered those dark lean years at the end of Shug's tenure and during the Barfield years when Brunt was at the height of his cheating, drunken power are old now. Our memories grayed. I never went to school on Monday after an Auburn Iron Bowl win. My daughter never went after an Iron Bowl loss. As bad as things are with Saban, they aren't as bad as they were then. There's no decade-long string of ass whippings. There was a NC in there (something I thought I'd never live long enough to see). Even the Iron Bowl has been relatively competitive. This generation has never known famine. They never had to walk that lonely road. So they're a little spoiled maybe. I see that. It's our job to remind them who we are -- something I forgot in my own sick of the bullshit resignation.
3. Allen Greene's career at Auburn is over. When this fails - more on that in a bit - he'll go down with it along with the NCAA basketball sledgehammer that IS coming for Bruce Pearl and the basketball team. Pearl's been in their sights for over a decade, now they will have their pound of flesh. Dr. Gogue doesn't care. He already retired once and only came back to save Auburn from itself after the disastrous Dr. Leath tenure. (The ripples of Leath's poison are still flowing strong throughout campus, by the way.) Greene will be lucky to run a YMCA in Yazoo City, Mississippi once this is done.
Not willing to go there yet. He's going to meet resistance especially if Harsin struggles. There IS NO NCAA HAMMER coming. That's wishful thinking. Yeah, Leath was a disastrous choice. But so was Obama. So is Biden. I'm not completely sold on Greene because he let that asinine social justice shit go way farther than it should have. But he could have caved here and let AU continue to just be AU. He could have sucked up to the pine barons and titty babies and insulated himself (like Jacobs did).
4. Auburn is a mediocre football program. Glimpses of more always fool the fools. Cam and Cecil Newton are the worst things that ever happened to us. I want more than anything for Cam to go away and never darken Lee County's boarder again. Charlatan. We are more like those 2004 & 2013 teams. Tons of heart and guts and always just a bit short.
This is wrong on 180,000 different levels. Cam's not a charlatan. He's an oddball but he's one of the single greatest talents to ever set foot on a college field. I truly thought I was going to die without ever seeing Auburn reach the top of the mountain (same with Red Sox and Cubs). Cam and the rest of that talented team gave me something I never thought I'd see. I got to be a grown man, crying tears of joy in the desert because of Cam and no matter what came after, that is a memory I will hold on to forever. Auburn has never been mediocre. We're a good program. Top 15ish historically. But you're right it always seems like there's that one trip-wire that keeps us from being truly remembered as truly great. LSU in 1988. Miami in 1993. Unbeaten USC and OU in 2004. And so on. That's why the gift that Cam and that crew gave us, that opportunity to stand alone is and will forever be worth it. Cam, the man, fully embraced Auburn. Would have been easy for him to turn his back when he left, but he didn't. For better or worse, he's one of us and always will be.
5. Harsin will have the chance to succeed here. Too many power brokers with hurt butts and feelings will conspire to see that his run is ruinous. Shut doors to recruits, lack of funds for capital projects, and the impatient fan base (and willing media to fan the flames) will lead to his downfall in three seasons or less. Once again, JABA will reign and 8-4 will seem like a fresh spring's dream. They'll go back to the "Auburn man" tree and continue the wallowing in mediocre slop all while the price for everything goes up.
This? It's a concern. There are so many parallels to Trump that it's mind-boggling. The media is against us. So is most of the big money. And now there are those within our own party who would prefer that we fail so they can retain their illusion of power. I don't know about Harbert, but Jimmy "Fatass" Rayne wants to be on the sidelines. He proved that when he was on camera tromping around yelling at players during a horrific game in Arkansas with Tuberville. He got his jowly ass relegated to the background where he belonged then. Took him a long time to weasel his way back. Those guys are cancers, there's no doubt. But their mirror images were cancers at Bama prior to Saban. They fought him (hard) at the beginning especially when he started kicking them out of the complex.
I see this as a real chance to change the trends, to reverse some of the insular damage we've done to ourselves for decades. Harsin has to win, obviously, and it sickens me that our own so-called fans might hamstring that effort. I heard one Friday say "I don't care about wins and losses, I care about what kind of men our coach makes out of these kids and that's why I can't support us getting rid of Gus..."
If Harsin wins, though? Not really even wins, but looks like a fucking football team and not a herd of monkeys brawling over a banana, he can keep the cancers at bay.
They won't ever go away, you're right. The minute Saban steps down at Alabama? Those same clowns that hired Shula and Mike Price will be right back to their meddling ways and will bring that program to its knees. You watch.
6. It's not fun anymore. The corporate feel of the experience, the willingness to try and be everything to everyone while emulating everyone else makes Auburn a cheap facsimile and a dated one. In a decade, no one will remember that Auburn once chased the league's elite as we fight Ole Miss and Arkansas for lower-tier bowl game spots and 3 star problem child recruits the Big Boys didn't want anyways.
Once again, you're wrong in 180,000 ways. It will take way more than a decade to relegate us to the Ole Miss and Arkansas scrap heap. Even Tennessee's 20-year wander through the desert hasn't done that to them yet. Tennessee's problem is they never fought the backstabbing powers. Fulmer? He's the biggest cancer that program has ever seen and he's still there pulling strings. That slimy bastard stabbed Johnny Majors in the back and got away with it. We didn't let Brother Oliver or Steele complete that task. Both times our people, the core people who don't have all the money, but are the heart of what Auburn really is (or can be) collectively joined to prevent that. Everything you're talking about in this point is traced back to Jay fucking Jacobs. The giant screen, the stupid white tents, the blaring rap, the shitting on lifelong fans by fucking with their traditional seats... everything has his prints on it. That one man is at the swirling center of most of my dissatisfaction with the direction AU took. I didn't expect that to be any different once he got that ball rolling, but maybe -- just maybe -- it can be. I've got to take that chance, because I've loved Auburn for too long and too hard to quit if there's even a small chance that the trends can be reversed. A week ago I didn't think they could. Now, there's that tiny spark of hope. I want to give it a chance to grow into a flame again.
Maybe it can't.
Here's the thing, though. Maybe it can.
I don't necessarily want championships. Alabama fans have plenty and are some of the most miserable people I've ever met. It's never enough. All I really want is for Auburn to "be Auburn." I want our guys to play with heart, to be prepared, to win the ones they're supposed to win and occasionally -- through preparation, guts and determination -- win some they aren't. Auburn hasn't "looked" like a football team for almost ten years. We've been a top ten program with a bottom ten staff for a very long time. Talent is there, but it's wasted or sent packing. I'm tired of Auburn ruining guys careers (Kerryon, Tre, Duke come to mind) because our coaches aren't college caliber. I'm tired of apologizing.
In an image, here's what I think is Auburn's football future.
(https://www.iamag.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Melting-the-iron-Throne-8.jpg)
I could be totally wrong about all of the outcomes above, but I don't think I'm wrong about why I think that's the course and causes.
Nobody's been a harsher critic than me. Nobody's been more disgusted and disillusioned than me over the last few years. I've done things I never thought I'd do because I thought it was too late to save the AU I loved. I could be wrong and I'm no fucking pollyanna, but today, at this moment, I have that small flicker of hope again. That's worth something. It could all play out like you suggest, and then I will grieve because at that point it will be over for me forever. The guy who expected to be buried wearing an AU pin, will go unadorned. But maybe there's a chance. Might as well wait and see.
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I watched the entire press conference. I like the cut of his jib. He comes across as a no nonsense type of person which as some others have already said and I agree with, Auburn needs. I think some folks are underestimating the larger body of Auburn people. Auburn people want to win but more importantly they don't want to be bullshitted.
There are a lot of fan bases that are fine swallowing the same ole shit that is shoveled down their throats. I believe (and I hope that I am right) that the larger sect of Auburn folks are willing to give him a chance to be successful as long as we are not treated like mushroom fans. What's a mushroom fan? It is a fan that is kept in the dark and shit on. I understand there is a part of the coach speak game that everyone has to play but what we need (and have needed for quite some time) is a fire breather that calls a spade a spade and owns the program, good and bad and then works like hell to correct the problems, through personnel, coaching, perception, or whatever else.
Count me as one on the train.
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I watched the entire press conference. I like the cut of his jib. He comes across as a no nonsense type of person which as some others have already said and I agree with, Auburn needs. I think some folks are underestimating the larger body of Auburn people. Auburn people want to win but more importantly they don't want to be bullshitted.
There are a lot of fan bases that are fine swallowing the same ole shit that is shoveled down their throats. I believe (and I hope that I am right) that the larger sect of Auburn folks are willing to give him a chance to be successful as long as we are not treated like mushroom fans. What's a mushroom fan? It is a fan that is kept in the dark and shit on. I understand there is a part of the coach speak game that everyone has to play but what we need (and have needed for quite some time) is a fire breather that calls a spade a spade and owns the program, good and bad and then works like hell to correct the problems, through personnel, coaching, perception, or whatever else.
Count me as one on the train.
Always about race with you. Oh there's no doubt the majority of fans will give him a chance. With the exception of a couple of fan bases like those of Bama and The Ohio State University, where anything less than a champeenship is a failure, Auburn fans are pretty much like any other Power 5 school's fan base. Expectations will differ somewhat from one program to another, but for the most part, if you win more than you lose and the program looks as if it's consistently moving in the right direction, a coach is going to get a fair shake.
We're no different. Pat Dye got 12 years, but his time was up due to a declining record and NCAA problems. Tuberville got 10 years but his record was headed straight down and he had some personal issues. It was time. Gus got 8 and a shit ton of money. I think he earned enough good will from a good bit of the fan base with the MNC run and holding his own for the most part with Saban. But in my view, the fans and PTB finally accepted the fact that he is what he is and $7 million a year is too much to pay for 4-6 losses every single year. And yes, I believe it is absolutely NOT unrealistic to expect more than that.
I truly don't think AU fans are unrealistic. And I don't recall any torches and pitch forks involved in any of our coaching changes with the exception of Chizik. That was an intolerable situation and had to get fixed, sharpish. Hell, if you listen to Finebaum,(And I do catch some of his show) the majority of callers have been far more up in arms about Jeremy Pruitt than Gus. If you do think our fan base is unrealistic, take a quick look outside the Auburn bubble. Spurrier and Meyer won at Florida. Ron Zook, Charlie Skrong, Will Muschamp and Jim Baby Shark McElwain didn't. Fulmer won at Tennessee. He retired just 12 years ago and they're on their 4th head coach and this one is on the hot seat. Morehead lasted what, 2 years at Miss. State? How about that turnstile at Arkansas, huh?
Bottom line, if you win more than you lose, keep out of trouble and keep the program headed in a positive direction, you'll get your shot to build the program. Unless he's a total bust, Harsin will get his shot too.
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I watched the entire press conference. I like the cut of his jib. He comes across as a no nonsense type of person which as some others have already said and I agree with, Auburn needs. I think some folks are underestimating the larger body of Auburn people. Auburn people want to win but more importantly they don't want to be bullshitted.
There are a lot of fan bases that are fine swallowing the same ole shit that is shoveled down their throats. I believe (and I hope that I am right) that the larger sect of Auburn folks are willing to give him a chance to be successful as long as we are not treated like mushroom fans. What's a mushroom fan? It is a fan that is kept in the dark and shit on. I understand there is a part of the coach speak game that everyone has to play but what we need (and have needed for quite some time) is a fire breather that calls a spade a spade and owns the program, good and bad and then works like hell to correct the problems, through personnel, coaching, perception, or whatever else.
Count me as one on the train.
I’m onboard. We all have to commit to helping Coach Haversham in order for this to work.
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I’m onboard. We all have to commit to helping Coach Haversham in order for this to work.
You know, you're really showing your ignorance here. On board is not a compound word.
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Count Buzz in on the Harsherthanyou train as well. Got the vibe from his presser that he's got no time for bullshit. He really needs to get some assistants with experience recruiting and coaching in the SEC...but I have seen no reason to doubt that he can be successful in Auburn long-term.
The one thing that the firing of Gus, the process of looking for and hiring the new coarch and the new coarch himself have given me is hope. That's all you can ask for at this point...couldn't really say that at the beginning of any season since 2014.
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Count Buzz in on the Harsherthanyou train as well. Got the vibe from his presser that he's got no time for bullshit. He really needs to get some assistants with experience recruiting and coaching in the SEC...but I have seen no reason to doubt that he can be successful in Auburn long-term.
The one thing that the firing of Gus, the process of looking for and hiring the new coarch and the new coarch himself have given me is hope. That's all you can ask for at this point...couldn't really say that at the beginning of any season since 2014.
This is a big step for you. I'm sure you're aware that Coach Haberdashery has never run a double fakey twirly bird play with the fullback in the wildcat in his entire career. Is that something you can live with, because you may never see that awesomeness again at Auburn.
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This is a big step for you. I'm sure you're aware that Coach Haberdashery has never run a double fakey twirly bird play with the fullback in the wildcat in his entire career. Is that something you can live with, because you may never see that awesomeness again at Auburn.
RIP Twirlybird. Coarch Haliburton has killed you.
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RIP Twirlybird. Coarch Haliburton has killed you.
Not so fast, my friend. I saw video evidence of 3 stack receiver set doing a syncopated 360 before they said hut. You do not know what you are talking about, again.
However, I agree that Coach Hawkins seems like he don’t put up with the bullshit. I like that.
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I'm onboard with Coach Heisenberg. Don't know that I can say much more. Seems like a no- nonsense kind of guy. Can only hope the transition goes smoothly.
Might get a top twenty recruiting class based on his reputation and the positive draw of Auburn.
I'm preparing for a 6-6 regular season. Could turn out better.
Just have to wait and see.
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I'm onboard with Coach Heisenberg. Don't know that I can say much more. Seems like a no- nonsense kind of guy. Can only hope the transition goes smoothly.
Might get a top twenty recruiting class based on his reputation and the positive draw of Auburn.
I'm preparing for a 6-6 regular season. Could turn out better.
Just have to wait and see.
Coach Heidlebum will do much better than that. You’ll see.
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Coach Heidlebum will do much better than that. You’ll see.
Agree. Coach harbertstein also likes Bruce. Birds of a feather....
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Problem is, he has no quality linemen on either side of the ball. He’s got to build that up first. Get all up in that transfer portal.
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Problem is, he has no quality linemen on either side of the ball. He’s got to build that up first. Get all up in that transfer portal.
No more Braden Smith's in sight on the offensive side.
And the defensive side minus Truesdale doesn't strike any fear in the opposition.
It doesn't look promising.
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No more Braden Smith's in sight on the offensive side.
And the defensive side minus Truesdale doesn't strike any fear in the opposition.
It doesn't look promising.
True and New were the best we had on the interior and I'm not sure either could have started for any other SEC team outside Vanderbilt. Behind them was skrate up road kill.
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Problem is, he has no quality linemen on either side of the ball. He’s got to build that up first. Get all up in that transfer portal.
Don't worry. Coach Hindenburg got this.
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Don't worry. Coach Hindenburg got this.
Coach Bryan Hfuhruhurr better have two brains.
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Coach Bryan Hfuhruhurr better have two brains.
I read up a bit on his offensive line coach and defensive coordinator.
Hard to decipher much when all you read are plaudits. And I don't view enough late night football to have a feel for what all-conference even means west of the Mississippi.
I saw a Dakota and a Montana team play one another in a wild one.
Reminded me of smear the queer.
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We interrupt this Coach Harvard thread for a little classic Gary Larson.
(https://i.imgur.com/FZQxOVs.jpg)
We now return you to the Coach Herbert thread, already in progress..
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Generally a given that a new coach brings a couple of trusted and true guys with him and the likeliest candidate is offensive line coach Brad Bedell since they were together as far back as Arky State.
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Generally a given that a new coach brings a couple of trusted and true guys with him and the likeliest candidate is offensive line coach Brad Bedell since they were together as far back as Arky State.
Well I'm certainly in favor of Hadley bringing Coach Bedrail with him.
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Generally a given that a new coach brings a couple of trusted and true guys with him and the likeliest candidate is offensive line coach Brad Bedell since they were together as far back as Arky State.
I had not even considered the My Pillow guy as a choice but you may be right. I know that you have been before.
It has just been a very long time.
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Problem is, he has no quality linemen on either side of the ball. He’s got to build that up first. Get all up in that transfer portal.
I’d sure like to get up in your transfer portal. Wait. I mean...
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I read up a bit on his offensive line coach and defensive coordinator.
Hard to decipher much when all you read are plaudits. And I don't view enough late night football to have a feel for what all-conference even means west of the Mississippi.
I saw a Dakota and a Montana team play one another in a wild one.
Reminded me of smear the queer.
If we ever play smear the queer here, it is going to look like a Chinese fire drill.
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From 247
Auburn coach Bryan Harsin (https://247sports.com/Coach/Bryan-Harsin-799) is welcoming Boise State co-defensive coordinator Spencer Danielson (https://247sports.com/Coach/Spencer-Danielson-4050) to his staff on the Plains, AL.com reports (https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2021/01/another-boise-state-coach-set-to-be-hired-at-auburn.html). Danielson will be the second carryover from the Broncos to join Harsin's staff in some capacity, joining strength coach Jeff Pitman (https://247sports.com/Coach/Jeff-Pitman-1598), who was announced as the first official hire on Tuesday (https://247sports.com/college/auburn/Article/bryan-harsin-ryan-russell-jeff-pitman-auburn-strength-and-conditioning-coach-new-158610711/).
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From 247
Auburn coach Bryan Harsin (https://247sports.com/Coach/Bryan-Harsin-799) is welcoming Boise State co-defensive coordinator Spencer Danielson (https://247sports.com/Coach/Spencer-Danielson-4050) to his staff on the Plains, AL.com reports (https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2021/01/another-boise-state-coach-set-to-be-hired-at-auburn.html). Danielson will be the second carryover from the Broncos to join Harsin's staff in some capacity, joining strength coach Jeff Pitman (https://247sports.com/Coach/Jeff-Pitman-1598), who was announced as the first official hire on Tuesday (https://247sports.com/college/auburn/Article/bryan-harsin-ryan-russell-jeff-pitman-auburn-strength-and-conditioning-coach-new-158610711/).
The late night wire has Coach Harrigan looking at Bobo and Mason as potential coordinators.
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Derrick Mason is a tremendous hire at DC.
Mike Bobo is... uninspiring.
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Derrick Mason is a tremendous hire at DC.
Mike Bobo is... uninspiring.
Boo on Bobo.
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Derrick Mason is a tremendous hire at DC.
Mike Bobo is... uninspiring.
For recruiting purposes, they are probably both very solid. Not sold on Bobo as an OC though...and lort knows he has had a big enough sample to study.
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Derek Mason hired by Auburn as defensive coordinator
ByRILEY GATES (https://247sports.com/User/Riley Gates/)2 hours ago
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Former Vanderbilt head coach Derek Mason (https://247sports.com/Coach/Derek-Mason-726) has a new coaching job in college football, as he has been hired by the Auburn Tigers to be the new defensive coordinator under Bryan Harsin (https://247sports.com/coach/Bryan-Harsin-799), according to AL.com (https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2021/01/auburn-hiring-derek-mason-as-defensive-coordinator.html). The news comes shortly after 247Sports reporter Brandon Marcello reported (https://247sports.com/Article/Auburn-Tigers-football-offensive-coordinator-defensive-coordinator-search-hire-Mike-Bobo-Derek-Mason-158719890/) the Tigers were targeting Mason. It becomes the third college coaching job that Mason has landed since returning to the college coaching ranks in 2010.
After leaving the Minnesota Vikings following the 2009 season, Mason was the defensive backs coach for then-Stanford head coach Jim Harbaugh (https://247sports.com/Coach/Jim-Harbaugh-732). He was promoted to associate head coach and co-defensive coordinator under David Shaw (https://247sports.com/coach/David-Shaw-723) after Harbaugh left for the San Francisco 49ers. Mason remained with Stanford until the end of the 2013 season until Vanderbilt hired him to act as its head coach, replacing James Franklin (https://247sports.com/Coach/James-Franklin-56) after his departure for Penn State.
While Mason looked like one of the hottest coaches on the market and a young defensive mind that could help sustain Franklin’s success at Vanderbilt, things did not go as planned with the hire. The Commodores went to three bowl games in three years under Franklin, including two seasons of nine wins. But when Mason got there, things turned south rather quickly.
Vanderbilt won just three games in Mason’s first season and the bowl streak was snapped. Mason never was able to post a winning record in a season and he only had a .500 record twice, both of which ended in losses in bowl games. He finished his time at Vanderbilt with a record of 27-56, which led to the school firing him on November 29 (https://247sports.com/Article/Derek-Mason-fired-Vanderbilt-football-SEC-154127647/).
After his firing, Mason released a statement (https://247sports.com/Article/Derek-Mason-fired-Vanderbilt-football-coach-releases-statement-after-firing-155648991/) about his time with the Commodores and what the school meant to him. Mason thanked Vanderbilt for the time he was allowed to lead the program.
“It is with gratitude that I have served as the head football coach at Vanderbilt University, a world-class institution, for the past seven years,†Mason said. “I am blessed to have worked alongside and built relationships with some of the finest and most dedicated coaches, staff and faculty in the nation. It has truly been my honor to have been given the opportunity to teach, mentor, champion and coach hundreds of Vanderbilt young men and one courageous female.
“I am confident that our current student-athletes and their families are in good hands with Chancellor (Daniel) Diermeier and Director of Athletics Candice Storey Lee and will continue to rise to today's challenges with integrity and character.
“Form the entire Mason family, including my beautiful wife LeighAnne and our incredible daughters Makenzie and Sydney, we thank the Nashville community and Commodore Nation for consistently embracing us with your kindness, friendship and warmth. God bless, stay safe. Anchor Down.â€
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So it looks like we get Will Friend as OL coach with the Bobo hire, according to
Jay G. Tate.
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The Mason hire seems great.
I like the Bobo hire. QB's improved under his watch.
What's not to like?
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The Mason hire seems great.
QB's improved under his watch.
Can you elaborate on this? I am not sure how this happens.
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Can you elaborate on this? I am not sure how this happens.
Large thumbs?
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The Mason hire seems great.
I like the Bobo hire. QB's improved under his watch.
What's not to like?
For starters, I don’t like the fact this his name is Bobo. I’m not hiring a fucking clown.
I will have to think about some more stuff and get back.
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For starters, I don’t like the fact this his name is Bobo. I’m not hiring a fucking clown.
I will have to think about some more stuff and get back.
He doesn't appear to have any clown qualities as far as I know. Was a workable QB as a player and has a forgetable record as a head coach but we know that's not the job for everyone. He's well regarded by peers and should be a very good recruiter. I don't care if he wears makeup and costume as long as the offense is productive.
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He doesn't appear to have any clown qualities as far as I know. Was a workable QB as a player and has a forgetable record as a head coach but we know that's not the job for everyone. He's well regarded by peers and should be a very good recruiter. I don't care if he wears makeup and costume as long as the offense is productive.
So, you’re ok if he wears a big red nose?
You can be a bit ridiculous sometimes, jmar.
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So, you’re ok if he wears a big red nose?
You can be a bit ridiculous sometimes, jmar.
He's big on using hand signals to communicate with the QB.
(https://i.imgur.com/6Ay56jp.jpg)
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So, you’re ok if he wears a big red nose?
You can be a bit ridiculous sometimes, jmar.
Good point.
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He's big on using hand signals to communicate with the QB.
(https://i.imgur.com/6Ay56jp.jpg)
God, I sincerely hope we don't see a return of the jazz hands.
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I don’t like the Bobo hire.
His offense only works with huge OL.
But then again, so did Gus’.
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So he's nothing fancy with two back sets but South Carolina had their best run game since 2013.
All I can say is his offense's always moved the ball against us.
https://247sports.com/college/south-carolina/LongFormArticle/South-Carolina-Football-Gamecocks-offensive-coordinator-Mike-Bobo-first-year-offense-150334672/
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I don’t like the Bobo hire.
His offense only works with huge OL.
But then again, so did Gus.
Friend had a gigantic line at Tennessee.
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Friend had a gigantic line at Tennessee.
Think maybe he can bring it along?
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Will Friend was arrested today on 27 counts of downloading child pornography.
(https://i.imgur.com/XK7FERD.png)
Okay, maybe I made most of that up. It just looks like a mug shot to me.
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WT has a gigantic johnson.
Yep
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Don’t know about mason.
Underwhelmed with Bobo and Will.
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Don’t know about mason.
Underwhelmed with Bobo and Will.
Your optimism is like the glue that holds the x together.
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Your optimism is like the glue that holds the x together.
Maybe most here will now agree with my prediction that we go 6-6 given the deep seated hatred they have for Bobo and Friend.
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Will Friend was arrested today on 27 counts of downloading child pornography.
(https://i.imgur.com/XK7FERD.png)
Okay, maybe I made most of that up. It just looks like a mug shot to me.
Looks like a mouth breather
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Looks like a mouth breather
Well he did play for the Tahd.
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Well he did play for the Tahd.
She sounds hideous
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Maybe most here will now agree with my prediction that we go 6-6 given the deep seated hatred they have for Bobo and Friend.
Their names don’t exactly strike fear in the opponents.
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She sounds hideous
Well she's a guy, so.....
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Their names don’t exactly strike fear in the opponents.
You don't say much friend, but when you do it's to the point and I salute you for it.
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I would honestly love to see both of them retained. Linebackers have progressed immensely since T-Will joined the staff and Caddy...well, he's Caddy.
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You don't say much friend, but when you do it's to the point and I salute you for it.
Don't encourage this mo-mo.
I used that line earlier in the thread. Actually feeding him material.
Why do you think Martin and Lewis broke up?
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I would honestly love to see both of them retained. Linebackers have progressed immensely since T-Will joined the staff and Caddy...well, he's Caddy.
That's right...he's not a Lincoln.
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Don't encourage this mo-mo.
I used that line earlier in the thread. Actually feeding him material.
Why do you think Martin and Lewis broke up?
Because Martin was a flaming racist?
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Because Martin was a flaming racist?
I did not know that. Thought the funniest kikes got a pass from whops. You see that's what sets our little site apart from all of the others.
We educate.
I won't bother fact checking it because your words are golden Buzz.
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Don't encourage this mo-mo.
I used that line earlier in the thread. Actually feeding him material.
Why do you think Martin and Lewis broke up?
A. Even if you typed an earlier post about this (which I have not found) it was not specifically about the names.
And 2, I feel like I need to start copywriting my material around here because there are so many that look to me in order to steal. And I’m sick of that. I’m not naming anyone yet but I’m on the verge. And it won’t be pretty when I go off on some motherfuckers for taking my material, I can promise.
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A. Even if you typed an earlier post about this (which I have not found) it was not specifically about the names.
And 2, I feel like I need to start copywriting my material around here because there are so many that look to me in order to steal. And I’m sick of that. I’m not naming anyone yet but I’m on the verge. And it won’t be pretty when I go off on some motherfuckers for taking my material, I can promise.
I'm smoking a butt and drinking beer. What you got going?
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I'm smoking a butt and drinking beer. What you got going?
It is way too early to be smoking a butt.
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I don't normally take selfies, but since we're talking about grilling...
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It is way too early to be smoking a butt.
Yeah I got a late start. No matter though. Took a few days off.
Hey the Harsin offense might not scare anyone (paraphrasing) but what more can the guy do?
Not exactly wowed by the offensive hires either.
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I don't normally take selfies, but since we're talking about grilling...
(https://i.imgur.com/H9bz6nK.png)
I was thinking you were more of a metrosexual type.
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I was thinking you were more of a metrosexual type.
That's only out in public.
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I'm smoking a butt and drinking beer. What you got going?
Are you talking about your sex life or grilling?
Either way, I have to work for a living. But I’ve been known to smoke a butt. I have also smoked some BBQ.
I put it in a cast iron skillet on top of some tin foil balls to keep it above the dripping. My own invention. Pretty liberal like Wes with S&P. Then 30 min before I take it up, some vinegar and water boiled and spread on with a towel or brush.
love an outer crust, too.
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Are you talking about your sex life or grilling?
Either way, I have to work for a living. But I’ve been known to smoke a butt. I have also smoked some BBQ.
I put it in a cast iron skillet on top of some tin foil balls to keep it above the dripping. My own invention. Pretty liberal like Wes with S&P. Then 30 min before I take it up, some vinegar and water boiled and spread on with a towel or brush.
love an outer crust, too.
You seem to be on the cutting edge of... something. I pretty much take a conventional approach to smoking meat. To each his own.
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You seem to be on the cutting edge of... something. I pretty much take a conventional approach to smoking meat. To each his own.
Growing up my mom’s family always bbq’d a hog for a reunion and did it over a pit. Block pit with charcoal coals. 12-14 butts. Requires a man turning for the 5-7 hours. Great if you like to be knee walking drunk before 5 am. But not very efficient.
I plan to build a covered pit that’s tall enough that it won’t require the turning. It’s on my to do list, along with a pool with the rock waterfall feature and a penis extension.
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Growing up my mom’s family always bbq’d a hog for a reunion and did it over a pit. Block pit with charcoal coals. 12-14 butts. Requires a man turning for the 5-7 hours. Great if you like to be knee walking drunk before 5 am. But not very efficient.
I plan to build a covered pit that’s tall enough that it won’t require the turning. It’s on my to do list, along with a pool with the rock waterfall feature and a penis extension.
Let us know when it all comes together.
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I don’t like the Bobo hire.
His offense only works with huge OL.
But then again, so did Gus’.
And that’s what friend recruits wise guy. Look up a few things before getting all huffy. And while you’re looking up facts - look at bobos o the last 5 years at ga versus gustard the last 6. Seriously. It may shock you.
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Their names don’t exactly strike fear in the opponents.
Most here don’t gaf and trust harsin with these things more than message board heroes. True story.
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Most here don’t gaf and trust harsin with these things more than message board heroes. True story.
You're arguing with a child. He never played football after the 6th grade. I played all the way into the 10th, which is why I have such an extensive knowledge about the game and its history. Like did you know that when Walter Payton didn't get to score a touchdown in the Super Bowl for the Browns, that he was actually very upset with the coach, Dipta I think his name was, for taking him out and letting William "The Freezer" Perry score that last TD? Most people never knew that.
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You're arguing with a child. He never played football after the 6th grade. I played all the way into the 10th, which is why I have such an extensive knowledge about the game and its history. Like did you know that when Walter Payton didn't get to score a touchdown in the Super Bowl for the Browns, that he was actually very upset with the coach, Dipta I think his name was, for taking him out and letting William "The Freezer" Perry score that last TD? Most people never knew that.
Would be interested in knowing your top three choices for Harsin's offensive coordinator
along with the others here.
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Most here don’t gaf and trust harsin with these things more than message board heroes. True story.
Some of this is probably true, Sport. But I gaf. And honestly, that matters a whole lot more.
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Would be interested in knowing your top three choices for Harsin's offensive coordinator
along with the others here.
1. Doug Barfield 2. Tommy Bowden 3. Jay Jacobs
no particular order
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You're arguing with a child. He never played football after the 6th grade. I played all the way into the 10th, which is why I have such an extensive knowledge about the game and its history. Like did you know that when Walter Payton didn't get to score a touchdown in the Super Bowl for the Browns, that he was actually very upset with the coach, Dipta I think his name was, for taking him out and letting William "The Freezer" Perry score that last TD? Most people never knew that.
Da Beers
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Da Beers
Somebody fix the damn like button
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1. Doug Barfield 2. Tommy Bowden 3. Jay Jacobs
no particular order
Nincompoop. Jay Jacobs already served two terms at Auburn.
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1. Doug Barfield 2. Tommy Bowden 3. Jay Jacobs
no particular order
We'll never get Barfield. He's going with Urban Meyer to Jacksonville.
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We'll never get Barfield. He's going with Urban Meyer to Jacksonville.
Saw where Barfield recently spoke to a group around his home town.
Dude's still kickin'. Early eighties maybe.
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I would honestly love to see both of them retained. Linebackers have progressed immensely since T-Will joined the staff and Caddy...well, he's Caddy.
(https://media.makeameme.org/created/thats-a-no-5c0b09.jpg)
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I just want to see our very best recruits not flip to Bama, Clemson or Georgia in the final week.Three this past season-
two linebackers and a pass rushing end.
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Tracey Rocker added as D-line coach
https://247sports.com/college/auburn/Article/tracy-rocker-auburn-south-carolina-bryan-harsin-shane-beamer-new-defensive-line-coach-159192396/
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Tracey Rocker added as D-line coach
https://247sports.com/college/auburn/Article/tracy-rocker-auburn-south-carolina-bryan-harsin-shane-beamer-new-defensive-line-coach-159192396/
Don't know him as a stellar recruiter but Rock was here previously when we were desperate for talent up front. Made Fairley into a dreaded nasty beast.
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Speaking of Rocker, back in 87' and 88', our D-line was easily as good group as has ever played at Auburn, more than likely the best. With guys like Tracy Rocker, Ron Stallworth (Good career with the Jets), Benji Roland, Aundray Bruce, Pig Goff, Nate Hill, David Rocker etc. they rarely blitzed. Didn't have to. Whatever 4 were in there just dominated the line of scrimmage. Check this out. I totally understand the game has completely changed, especially on the offensive side of the ball. But...
In 1988, the Auburn D gave up a total of 92 points in 12 games. That's 7.6 ppg. They had 4 straight shutouts that year and the two highest point totals given up were 21 to North Carolina in a blowout win, and 13 to high powered FSU in the Sugar Bowl.
To bring back some heart break from 88', that was the year of the "Earthquake Game" in LSU. The Bengal Tigers had not crossed midfield since the first drive of the game. We held a 6-0 lead and LSU got the ball back with just time for one last drive. And despite utter domination by our D, went into a prevent and allowed them to drive right down the field for a 7-6 win. The thing about that is not just the gut wrenching, unnecessary loss, but without going into the prevent D, we're playing Notre Dame (I believe) for the MNC instead of FSU in the Sugar.
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Speaking of Rocker, back in 87' and 88', our D-line was easily as good group as has ever played at Auburn, more than likely the best. With guys like Tracy Rocker, Ron Stallworth (Good career with the Jets), Benji Roland, Aundray Bruce, Pig Goff, Nate Hill, David Rocker etc. they rarely blitzed. Didn't have to. Whatever 4 were in there just dominated the line of scrimmage. Check this out. I totally understand the game has completely changed, especially on the offensive side of the ball. But...
In 1988, the Auburn D gave up a total of 92 points in 12 games. That's 7.6 ppg. They had 4 straight shutouts that year and the two highest point totals given up were 21 to North Carolina in a blowout win, and 13 to high powered FSU in the Sugar Bowl.
To bring back some heart break from 88', that was the year of the "Earthquake Game" in LSU. The Bengal Tigers had not crossed midfield since the first drive of the game. We held a 6-0 lead and LSU got the ball back with just time for one last drive. And despite utter domination by our D, went into a prevent and allowed them to drive right down the field for a 7-6 win. The thing about that is not just the gut wrenching, unnecessary loss, but without going into the prevent D, we're playing Notre Dame (I believe) for the MNC instead of FSU in the Sugar.
Thanks for that little stroll down memory lane.
I'm feeling better now. :facepalm:
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Speaking of Rocker, back in 87' and 88', our D-line was easily as good group as has ever played at Auburn, more than likely the best. With guys like Tracy Rocker, Ron Stallworth (Good career with the Jets), Benji Roland, Aundray Bruce, Pig Goff, Nate Hill, David Rocker etc. they rarely blitzed. Didn't have to. Whatever 4 were in there just dominated the line of scrimmage. Check this out. I totally understand the game has completely changed, especially on the offensive side of the ball. But...
In 1988, the Auburn D gave up a total of 92 points in 12 games. That's 7.6 ppg. They had 4 straight shutouts that year and the two highest point totals given up were 21 to North Carolina in a blowout win, and 13 to high powered FSU in the Sugar Bowl.
To bring back some heart break from 88', that was the year of the "Earthquake Game" in LSU. The Bengal Tigers had not crossed midfield since the first drive of the game. We held a 6-0 lead and LSU got the ball back with just time for one last drive. And despite utter domination by our D, went into a prevent and allowed them to drive right down the field for a 7-6 win. The thing about that is not just the gut wrenching, unnecessary loss, but without going into the prevent D, we're playing Notre Dame (I believe) for the MNC instead of FSU in the Sugar.
Damn...why you gotta open those wounds again, man? I was there on row 2 at the earthquake game. Worst feeling I had as a teenager, and that includes being dumped by the head cheerleader in HS.
And yes, that was the single loudest cheer I had heard in person. Until the 2013 FUGA game, that is....
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I’m still not on the Bobo bus. Too many Gamecocks outright celebrating his departure.
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Damn...why you gotta open those wounds again, man? I was there on row 2 at the earthquake game. Worst feeling I had as a teenager, and that includes being dumped by the head cheerleader in HS.
And yes, that was the single loudest cheer I had heard in person. Until the 2013 FUGA game, that is....
The two loudest cheer plays for me were obviously the FUGA game and Kick 6. The loudest game overall by far was 1989 first time evah in JHS.
Speaking of, LSU just happened to have a seismograph laying around by the stadium that night. Joe Frazier said he felt the earth shake all the way out where he was on one of those plays. Can't remember if he said Prayer at the Hare or Kick 6.
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Damn...why you gotta open those wounds again, man? I was there on row 2 at the earthquake game. Worst feeling I had as a teenager, and that includes being dumped by the head cheerleader in HS.
And yes, that was the single loudest cheer I had heard in person. Until the 2013 FUGA game, that is....
He has a way of brightening things up like that.
Never knew you were at the earthquake game, buzzy, that’s quite a memorable one to have attended. One of the biggest in football and SEC lore. You are a rare bird, especially being an AU fan at the game.
Sorry you were dumped by the head cheerleader. Did your school always have male head cheerleaders?
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I’m still not on the Bobo bus. Too many Gamecocks outright celebrating his departure.
in fairness, what the hell kind of clout do they have to know either way? Thats a .500 all time program. Other than spurrier, isn't this where coaches go to die? I don't really GAF what anyone that is a fan of sc thinks. Do they know they had the league's leading rusher but were terrible in all facets before bobo got there? Kind of a hallmark of a BOOM program if you ask me. Seriously, I wouldnt base your opinion of the guy based off what that bunch says. Opinions vary. Numbers don't.
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He has a way of brightening things up like that.
Never knew you were at the earthquake game, buzzy, that’s quite a memorable one to have attended. One of the biggest in football and SEC lore. You are a rare bird, especially being an AU fan at the game.
Sorry you were dumped by the head cheerleader. Did your school always have male head cheerleaders?
You leave Jaymes out of this
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I’m still not on the Bobo bus. Too many Gamecocks outright celebrating his departure.
I'm on the Bobo bus mainly because his offense's have been traditionally run heavy which is in keeping with the style of Harsin.
He doesn't move the meter in the flash department but then neither do Malzahn's 10 wide receiver screens per game.
Now if we are talking receivers running wide open down the field against a blown coverage or isolating a Heisman Trophy winner against a Roger McCreary or Christian Tutt then that's a whole different level of flash.
That's just plain old overmatched.
We likely run it 40+ times and pick our times and spots to throw it, hopefully downfield and accurately.
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You leave Jaymes out of this
Okay, speaking of cheerleaders and LSU, when I started law school in 99' one of the guys in my class was an ex-LSU cheerleader. Lucky ass dog. I went to an LSU-AU game and wound up in seats very close to the visiting sections. LSU scored a touchdown and some of their cheerleaders ran over in front of our section and damned if they didn't X us out. I'm talkin' D-Generation X hip thrusts, slammin' the X on us. And some of the guys did it too.
Next time I was in class, I asked him, "What the hell? Your girl cheerleaders X'd me out". He just matter-of-factly looked at me and said, "And?"
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Okay, speaking of cheerleaders and LSU, when I started law school in 99' one of the guys in my class was an ex-LSU cheerleader. Lucky ass dog. I went to an LSU-AU game and wound up in seats very close to the visiting sections. LSU scored a touchdown and some of their cheerleaders ran over in front of our section and damned if they didn't X us out. I'm talkin' D-Generation X hip thrusts, slammin' the X on us. And some of the guys did it too.
Next time I was in class, I asked him, "What the hell? Your girl cheerleaders X'd me out". He just matter-of-factly looked at me and said, "And?"
Is that like the Macarena or something? Maybe I'm too old or out of touch to understand.
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Is that like the Macarena or something? Maybe I'm too old or out of touch to understand.
See addition to post above.
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Okay, speaking of cheerleaders and LSU, when I started law school in 99' one of the guys in my class was an ex-LSU cheerleader. Lucky ass dog. I went to an LSU-AU game and wound up in seats very close to the visiting sections. LSU scored a touchdown and some of their cheerleaders ran over in front of our section and damned if they didn't X us out. I'm talkin' D-Generation X hip thrusts, slammin' the X on us. And some of the guys did it too.
Next time I was in class, I asked him, "What the hell? Your girl cheerleaders X'd me out". He just matter-of-factly looked at me and said, "And?"
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And?
And, then you sucked his dick?
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And?
And, then you sucked his dick?
That's what I thought too.
Now I get it Snags.
Guess you showed him.
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And?
And, then you sucked his dick?
Whatever. You should know better than anyone that a nice dinner and several drinks is gonna' happen before we ever get to that.
Wait.....I mean......you're sick. SICK I tell ya'.
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Whatever. You should know better than anyone that a nice dinner and several drinks is gonna' happen before we ever get to that.
Wait.....I mean......you're sick. SICK I tell ya'.
That WT is wise beyond his skull plate I tell ya.
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That WT is wise beyond his skull plate I tell ya.
My diddy always told me that there was a big difference between wise and being a wise ass.
I never understood what he meant.
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My diddy always told me that there was a big difference between wise and being a wise ass.
I never understood what he meant.
Deddy