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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on September 22, 2016, 04:46:26 PM
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Pretty safe bet our opponents do. :facepalm: dot I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!! I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others. I like male genatalia in and around my mouth.
John Franklin III led Auburn's offense in its most productive quarter in last week's loss to Texas A&M but Aggies safety Armani Watts was not impressed at the time.
With Texas A&M leading 22-10 with 10:13 to go, Franklin replaced Sean White at quarterback. Franklin quickly helped move the Tigers into Aggies territory with an 11-yard run, which was followed by six straight runs by Kamryn Pettway, including a 33-yard run – Auburn's longest play of the game.
But Auburn stalled inside the red zone as Franklin, who did not attempt a pass on the dive, was stopped for no gain on third-and-3 and then lost a yard on a fourth-and-3 play in which Aggies defensive end Daeshon Hall "mesh charged" at Franklin and running back Kerryon Johnson.
As the Aggies defense celebrated on the sideline, Watts encouraged his teammates, according to video from Texas A&M's athletics. (15:24 mark)
"Bro, I'm just trying to tell them bros," Watts said. "They gonna do two plays, the read.
"5 (Franklin) can't throw."
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:haha: :facepalm:
We fucked.
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I've been trying to tell them bros for a couple of seasons now...I can call about Thirteen sixteenth of the time or about 85.984% of the plays as soon as I see them lined up.
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I'll have you know that he worked with QB guru Whitfield in the off season.
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I've been trying to tell them bros for a couple of seasons now...I can call about Thirteen sixteenth of the time or about 85.984% of the plays as soon as I see them lined up.
Maybe this is our weekend then, they seem to be busy in Charlotte and Tulsa.
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Think about this for a second. We've got 4* and 5* talent at every single position on offense. Pettway and Leff may be the only 2 that weren't. We've got what was once thought of as one of the great offensive minds in the game. Coached Tulsa's offense to 2 straight years of the #1 offense in the land. Coached our offense to an undefeated national championship in 2010 and took us to within 13 seconds of the promise land in 2013. And spare me the "It was all Cam and Nick bullshit". No, it wasn't.
And now we're reduced to the opposing team mocking us because we only run 2 plays?
Take a deep breath, Gus. Think! Come on, man. You can do it. How to unfuck this. Hoowww to unfuck this. It'll come to you.
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I'll have you know that he worked with QB guru Whitfield in the off season.
Probably fetching his own errant throws. Tough job. Can't pay enough.
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Think about this for a second. We've got 4* and 5* talent at every single position on offense. Pettway and Leff may be the only 2 that weren't. We've got what was once thought of as one of the great offensive minds in the game. Coached Tulsa's offense to 2 straight years of the #1 offense in the land. Coached our offense to an undefeated national championship in 2010 and took us to within 13 seconds of the promise land in 2013. And spare me the "It was all Cam and Nick bullshit". No, it wasn't.
And now we're reduced to the opposing team mocking us because we only run 2 plays?
Take a deep breath, Gus. Think! Come on, man. You can do it. How to unfuck this. Hoowww to unfuck this. It'll come to you.
Remember when we lost to Arkansas coached by none other than John L. Smith?
That's it.
Jus sayin it could be worse...I mean, we have pretty fair defense.
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Oh, and it was about 75% Cam and Nick with 25% timely play calling. Can't give them all the credit.
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Pretty safe bet our opponents do. :facepalm: dot I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!! I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others. I like male genatalia in and around my mouth.
John Franklin III led Auburn's offense in its most productive quarter in last week's loss to Texas A&M but Aggies safety Armani Watts was not impressed at the time.
With Texas A&M leading 22-10 with 10:13 to go, Franklin replaced Sean White at quarterback. Franklin quickly helped move the Tigers into Aggies territory with an 11-yard run, which was followed by six straight runs by Kamryn Pettway, including a 33-yard run – Auburn's longest play of the game.
But Auburn stalled inside the red zone as Franklin, who did not attempt a pass on the dive, was stopped for no gain on third-and-3 and then lost a yard on a fourth-and-3 play in which Aggies defensive end Daeshon Hall "mesh charged" at Franklin and running back Kerryon Johnson.
As the Aggies defense celebrated on the sideline, Watts encouraged his teammates, according to video from Texas A&M's athletics. (15:24 mark)
"Bro, I'm just trying to tell them bros," Watts said. "They gonna do two plays, the read.
"5 (Franklin) can't throw."
Unless he can.
He didn't do that bad against aTm, Sean White or Jeremy Johnson are not "lights out" better in that department. Which is why yooOOUUU START JF3, GOD DAMN IT!!!!!
Here's a suggestion to Coach Malzahn & Lashlee whenever they keep saying that JF3 knows about 5% of the playbook. TEACH HIM THE MOTHERFUCKIN PLAYS IN THE PLAYBOOK, CONSTANT REPETITION OF THE PLAYS UNTIL HE GETS IT RIGHT.
Jeremy Johnson knows a lot of plays...look how awesome he is. Sean White knows a lot of plays...he goes over them in his head as he's laying on his back because he couldn't get the ball out of his hands in 2 seconds...if only we had a QB that could extend the play with his legs. WE DO, HIS NAME IS JOHNATHAN FRANKLIN III.
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Remember when we lost to Arkansas coached by none other than John L. Smith?
That's it.
Jus sayin it could be worse...I mean, we have pretty fair defense.
When you look at the losing streaks? No. it couldn't be much worse in all honesty.
The shining exceptions are bright but they are the outliers. Judged on the entire body of work that includes 2011, the end of 2014, 2015 and 1-2 so far? It's dismal.
Gerry Faust was a high school legend. How'd he do?
Great coordinators don't always make great head coaches.
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Think about this for a second. We've got 4* and 5* talent at every single position on offense. Pettway and Leff may be the only 2 that weren't. We've got what was once thought of as one of the great offensive minds in the game. Coached Tulsa's offense to 2 straight years of the #1 offense in the land. Coached our offense to an undefeated national championship in 2010 and took us to within 13 seconds of the promise land in 2013. And spare me the "It was all Cam and Nick bullshit". No, it wasn't.
And now we're reduced to the opposing team mocking us because we only run 2 plays?
Take a deep breath, Gus. Think! Come on, man. You can do it. How to unfuck this. Hoowww to unfuck this. It'll come to you.
It was all cam
Carry on.
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It was all cam
Carry on.
And Nick
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And Nick
Omg. They're were sooooo good.
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Unless he can.
He didn't do that bad against aTm, Sean White or Jeremy Johnson are not "lights out" better in that department. Which is why yooOOUUU START JF3, GOD DAMN IT!!!!!
Here's a suggestion to Coach Malzahn & Lashlee whenever they keep saying that JF3 knows about 5% of the playbook. TEACH HIM THE MOTHERFUCKIN PLAYS IN THE PLAYBOOK, CONSTANT REPETITION OF THE PLAYS UNTIL HE GETS IT RIGHT.
Jeremy Johnson knows a lot of plays...look how awesome he is. Sean White knows a lot of plays...he goes over them in his head as he's laying on his back because he couldn't get the ball out of his hands in 2 seconds...if only we had a QB that could extend the play with his legs. WE DO, HIS NAME IS JOHNATHAN FRANKLIN III.
You do know Gus reads this forum?
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Sean White knows a lot of plays...he goes over them in his head as he's laying on his back because he couldn't get the ball out of his hands in 2 seconds...
Maybe if Sean didn't have to double reverse handoff fake all the time, he'd have a chance to survey the defense. Would also help if the tackles could hold a block more than a nanosecond.
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Unless he can.
He didn't do that bad against aTm, Sean White or Jeremy Johnson are not "lights out" better in that department. Which is why yooOOUUU START JF3, GOD DAMN IT!!!!!
Here's a suggestion to Coach Malzahn & Lashlee whenever they keep saying that JF3 knows about 5% of the playbook. TEACH HIM THE MOTHERFUCKIN PLAYS IN THE PLAYBOOK, CONSTANT REPETITION OF THE PLAYS UNTIL HE GETS IT RIGHT.
Jeremy Johnson knows a lot of plays...look how awesome he is. Sean White knows a lot of plays...he goes over them in his head as he's laying on his back because he couldn't get the ball out of his hands in 2 seconds...if only we had a QB that could extend the play with his legs. WE DO, HIS NAME IS JOHNATHAN FRANKLIN III.
He hands off or keeps left or right behind an adequate offensive line expected to execute against 7-9 better than average defenders in the box. The rest of the playbook is useless as are the chances of this succeeding unless we are playing a cupcake.
I like cupcakes only it's no fun playing them.
But if we go present day JFIII, we are the cupcake. Someone tell me we aren't already.
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Unless he can.
He didn't do that bad against aTm, Sean White or Jeremy Johnson are not "lights out" better in that department. Which is why yooOOUUU START JF3, GOD DAMN IT!!!!!
Here's a suggestion to Coach Malzahn & Lashlee whenever they keep saying that JF3 knows about 5% of the playbook. TEACH HIM THE MOTHERFUCKIN PLAYS IN THE PLAYBOOK, CONSTANT REPETITION OF THE PLAYS UNTIL HE GETS IT RIGHT.
Jeremy Johnson knows a lot of plays...look how awesome he is. Sean White knows a lot of plays...he goes over them in his head as he's laying on his back because he couldn't get the ball out of his hands in 2 seconds...if only we had a QB that could extend the play with his legs. WE DO, HIS NAME IS JOHNATHAN FRANKLIN III.
It doesn't matter whether you use capital letters or lower case.
He was a pine-rider at a doofus ass Mississippi juco program. If he is our best bet to win? If he is even a viable option given there are two quarterbacks with at least two years of experience/training with this coaching staff?
We. Are. Fucked. Beyond. Repair.
I don't want to see the guy on the field. We are a joke if he is.
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Why not a Woody? He would steamroll our OL and their DL while cadillacing for 6.
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It doesn't matter whether you use capital letters or lower case.
He was a pine-rider at a doofus ass Mississippi juco program. If he is our best bet to win? If he is even a viable option given there are two quarterbacks with at least two years of experience/training with this coaching staff?
We. Are. Fucked. Beyond. Repair.
I don't want to see the guy on the field. We are a joke if he is.
This...he can't throw Prowler that's the problem he is wildly inaccurate.
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It doesn't matter whether you use capital letters or lower case.
He was a pine-rider at a doofus ass Mississippi juco program. If he is our best bet to win? If he is even a viable option given there are two quarterbacks with at least two years of experience/training with this coaching staff?
We. Are. Fucked. Beyond. Repair.
I don't want to see the guy on the field. We are a joke again.
More likely if Gus doesn't unfuck himself quickly.
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I think White is average at best. But he could win us some games with a good OL and good play calling.
It's like we all of the sudden start sucking on everything that is about offense.
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I think White is average at best. But he could win us some games with a good OL and good play calling.
It's like we all of the sudden start sucking on everything that is about offense.
you want to see a genius coach, watch the Patriots last night. 27-0 against the Texans, without their two best players and with a rookie QB starting his first game. He developed the gameplan for the talent that he has. That's what great coaches do!
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I think White is average at best. But he could win us some games with a good OL and good play calling.
It's like we all of the sudden start sucking on everything that is about offense.
Please to be explaining? I have heard of it, is it in same magical kingdom as that most elusive Tight end?
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you want to see a genius coach, watch the Patriots last night. 27-0 against the Texans, without their two best players and with a rookie QB starting his first game. He developed the gameplan for the talent that he has. That's what great coaches do!
That was amazing last night. Bellychick is a huge dick. But damn, can he coach.
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You do know Gus reads this forum?
Leave Tammy alone!
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That was amazing last night. Bellychick is a huge dick. But damn, can he coach.
I fucking hate the Pats...but he is a wonder to watch coach.
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you want to see a genius coach, watch the Patriots last night. 27-0 against the Texans, without their two best players and with a rookie QB starting his first game. He developed the gameplan for the talent that he has. That's what great coaches do!
So you are saying Bill Belichick will be Auburns next head coach?
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So you are saying Bill Belichick will be Auburns next head coach?
Can't wait to see that buyout?
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More likely if Gus doesn't unfuck himself quickly.
He needs to run the full compliment of plays around Prattville and Kerryon and slip JFIII in there about once every quarter when we get them gassed.
We should not lose at home...EVER!
That's my attitude.
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It doesn't matter whether you use capital letters or lower case.
He was a pine-rider at a doofus ass Mississippi juco program. If he is our best bet to win? If he is even a viable option given there are two quarterbacks with at least two years of experience/training with this coaching staff?
We. Are. Fucked. Beyond. Repair.
I don't want to see the guy on the field. We are a joke if he is.
He's our best chance at having a winning record. JF3 also does more than 3 plays, he threw the ball a few times last Saturday, a few of his passes went over the head of the receiver...so? I've yet to see Sean White have a perfect game. I've yet to see any QB have a perfect game, college or Pro, in a very long time.
He doesn't know the plays, maybe someone should teach him, just a thought. Funny thing though, with him at QB it makes the defense kinda timid. Unless Coach Malzahn calls one of his patented slow developing handoffs or the Garbage Dump play (the 360 piroutte)
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This...he can't throw Prowler that's the problem he is wildly inaccurate.
50% accuracy. aTm's Trevor Knight was 50% too, guess he sucks worse than Sean White
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50% accuracy. aTm's Trevor Knight was 50% too, guess he sucks worse than Sean White
Good God if he can throw to our little Wes Welker but twice we have something special for about 2 minutes.
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50% accuracy. aTm's Trevor Knight was 50% too, guess he sucks worse than Sean White
I'm not worried about the accuracy, I'm worried about turnovers.
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you want to see a genius coach, watch the Patriots last night. 27-0 against the Texans, without their two best players and with a rookie QB starting his first game. He developed the gameplan for the talent that he has. That's what great coaches do!
I hate him because Saban patterns every single thing he does (other than the ratty hoodies) after Mumblicheck.
Used to like the Patriots, but they cheat. I don't like that. They skirt rules, bend rules, break rules to get any minor advantage they can. So do the Seahawks under Carroll. There's a theme there.
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He's our best chance at having a winning record.
What are you basing this on?
Yeah he was dynamic when he came in for aTm, but they also made adjustments and stopped him in a single drive. I totally disagree with you I think Sean White gives us the best chance for a winning record if our HC would quit trying to fit a square peg in a round fucking hole.
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Fuck it. Just bring Chris Todd in for a day to show 'em how its done and fit JFIII for about 10 plays. That's all we need with our talent which skillwise is as good as it's ever been with the exception of running back which is still close. Open it up you boring assed eccentric mfer. We've got 'lectricity n everthing.
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He's our best chance at having a winning record. JF3 also does more than 3 plays, he threw the ball a few times last Saturday, a few of his passes went over the head of the receiver...so? I've yet to see Sean White have a perfect game. I've yet to see any QB have a perfect game, college or Pro, in a very long time.
He doesn't know the plays, maybe someone should teach him, just a thought. Funny thing though, with him at QB it makes the defense kinda timid. Unless Coach Malzahn calls one of his patented slow developing handoffs or the Garbage Dump play (the 360 piroutte)
Dude. He's NOT a quarterback. He's a guy with a little speed and even littler brains.
He had a cancerous attitude at juco. Wasn't close to seeing the field at FSU. Doesn't have the toughness to be a running back. Doesn't have the football IQ to be a quarterback. Doesn't have the size or hands to be a receiver. He's the perfect stereotype for a kid who's recruited as an "athlete" because he doesn't do anything well enough to be established at any position.
So he's got a little speed. So fucking what. He's not nearly as smart as Marshall and that should tell you something.
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I just say we bring him in if we see the defense getting spent...on their heels.
We need to purchase a better policy if he has to warm up on the sidelines.
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For me, it's like this and like that and like this and a....
A few points:
Sean White is the best all around QB we have. But he is severely limited in this offense. He's got decent wheels and can take off a few times when the pocket breaks down. But he is not a read option QB. Circa 09' Gus.
If Malzahn stubbornly refuses to adjust his O to fit Sean and continues with the same thing Nick Marshall was running, then put Clifford Franklin IV in. I don't like and don't want CFXXV as our QB, but if it's the read option, then he's the only choice. Or Woody Barrett.
If at this point, you have any QB on your roster that's "Still learning the offense", then you either suck as a coach or you recruited a bunch of Down Syndrome kids. When the opposing team is laughing at you and openly telling the world you only run two plays...there's a problem. A big one!
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SDS says they are getting Woody Barrett ready for action as early as this week.
I'm just wondering how we can get all 4 QBs in for a play? Maybe just leave the Tackles on the bench.
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SDS says they are getting Woody Barrett ready for action as early as this week.
I'm just wondering how we can get all 4 QBs in for a play? Maybe just leave the Tackles on the bench.
Single wing. Duh! But don't let that get out. Dave Aranda might google it tonight.
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For me, it's like this and like that and like this and a....
A few points:
Sean White is the best all around QB we have. But he is severely limited in this offense. He's got decent wheels and can take off a few times when the pocket breaks down. But he is not a read option QB. Circa 09' Gus.
If Malzahn stubbornly refuses to adjust his O to fit Sean and continues with the same thing Nick Marshall was running, then put Clifford Franklin IV in. I don't like and don't want CFXXV as our QB, but if it's the read option, then he's the only choice. Or Woody Barrett.
If at this point, you have any QB on your roster that's "Still learning the offense", then you either suck as a coach or you recruited a bunch of Down Syndrome kids. When the opposing team is laughing at you and openly telling the world you only run two plays...there's a problem. A big one!
Agree with this, I just don't know how Malzahn has become so dependent on one style of offense.
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For me, it's like this and like that and like this and a....
A few points:
Sean White is the best all around QB we have. But he is severely limited in this offense. He's got decent wheels and can take off a few times when the pocket breaks down. But he is not a read option QB. Circa 09' Gus.
If Malzahn stubbornly refuses to adjust his O to fit Sean and continues with the same thing Nick Marshall was running, then put Clifford Franklin IV in. I don't like and don't want CFXXV as our QB, but if it's the read option, then he's the only choice. Or Woody Barrett.
If at this point, you have any QB on your roster that's "Still learning the offense", then you either suck as a coach or you recruited a bunch of Down Syndrome kids. When the opposing team is laughing at you and openly telling the world you only run two plays...there's a problem. A big one!
If things continue I'd be looking to transfer-Gus has not shown any ability to develop any quarterback.
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Agree with this, I just don't know how Malzahn has become so dependent on one style of offense.
Winner winner Abe Frohman sausage dinner. Dislodge head from ass...adjust offense...problem solved.
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Regardless of the coach building skills, playbook, table etiquette etc...I don't see any of our QB's being effective in the SEC.
White [meh]...how many TD's has he thrown? 4. 4 fucking TD's in his career. He's so tiny.
Johnson ...cuckoo.
JF!!! ...dumb as rock. He looks lost. Better fit for the track team.
As far as our current situation...it's a combo of shitty coaching and not having a serviceable QB1.
There's a snake in my boot.
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With Chandler Cox and Kamryn Pettway there to play the role of Eric Smif and later Lutzie...there's no reason that Sean White can't lead the team using the same offensive plan Gus had in 2009. There are several candidates to play the roles of Darvin Adams and Terrell Zachary. The only real ? is the OL...more specifically, the Tackles.
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I am Gus Malzahn.
I played golf a lot. I play well sometimes and crappy others. I was never a long driver and my irons were iffy but I had a knack for putting. Get on the green anywhere -- hell, even the fringe -- and a two putt was damn near automatic. I averaged like 1.4 putts per hole when I was keeping up with it. I never spent a lot of time standing around reading the green or any of that. I just had a touch for it. Walk up, look at the hole for a while, visualize the path all the way back to the ball and hit it.
So the guys I usually play with, one of them is putting together his "killer foursome" for this tournament. He's got a couple of big knockers with their 280 yard drives, a guy who was killer with a wedge. And he recruited me to slam the door with putting.
We did practice rounds and I was nonchalantly smacking them in from everywhere. Three to six feet? I'd almost Happy Gilmore it. Wouldn't even get set, just walk up and tap at it.
First day of the tournament I'm my regular self. Putting without a care. End of the day, we're leading. Next day? I've got the jeebs. I'm still making the occasional putt, but I'm blowing some past the hole and leaving others way short. There was a tipping point on that. I had a four foot putt they'd all missed. Was a little difficult, but not anything I hadn't handled before. I left it two inches short. I started pressing and the shots didn't come. We've dropped down the leaderboard but still have a shot at winning. Day 3? I can't putt for shit. I start studying shots. Changing balls. Adjusting my stance.
It took me a couple of years to work my way out of it. I've bought two putters. I've switched putters in the middle of a round. I've used different putters on different holes in the same round.
It was all in my head. Several months ago, I finally just stopped thinking. The last time I played I putted like a champ.
That's where Gus is. Sean is a putter.
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For me, it's like this and like that and like this and a....
A few points:
Sean White is the best all around QB we have. But he is severely limited in this offense. He's got decent wheels and can take off a few times when the pocket breaks down. But he is not a read option QB. Circa 09' Gus.
If Malzahn stubbornly refuses to adjust his O to fit Sean and continues with the same thing Nick Marshall was running, then put Clifford Franklin IV in. I don't like and don't want CFXXV as our QB, but if it's the read option, then he's the only choice. Or Woody Barrett.
If at this point, you have any QB on your roster that's "Still learning the offense", then you either suck as a coach or you recruited a bunch of Down Syndrome kids. When the opposing team is laughing at you and openly telling the world you only run two plays...there's a problem. A big one!
No sir. You give White a gameplan allow him levity to make changes accordingly and YOU adjust to THAT. Then and only then if gou feel inclined do you bring in Kerryon or JFIII. These guys are only additions, not true QBs.
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I am Gus Malzahn.
I played golf a lot. I play well sometimes and crappy others. I was never a long driver and my irons were iffy but I had a knack for putting. Get on the green anywhere -- hell, even the fringe -- and a two putt was damn near automatic. I averaged like 1.4 putts per hole when I was keeping up with it. I never spent a lot of time standing around reading the green or any of that. I just had a touch for it. Walk up, look at the hole for a while, visualize the path all the way back to the ball and hit it.
So the guys I usually play with, one of them is putting together his "killer foursome" for this tournament. He's got a couple of big knockers with their 280 yard drives, a guy who was killer with a wedge. And he recruited me to slam the door with putting.
We did practice rounds and I was nonchalantly smacking them in from everywhere. Three to six feet? I'd almost Happy Gilmore it. Wouldn't even get set, just walk up and tap at it.
First day of the tournament I'm my regular self. Putting without a care. End of the day, we're leading. Next day? I've got the jeebs. I'm still making the occasional putt, but I'm blowing some past the hole and leaving others way short. There was a tipping point on that. I had a four foot putt they'd all missed. Was a little difficult, but not anything I hadn't handled before. I left it two inches short. I started pressing and the shots didn't come. We've dropped down the leaderboard but still have a shot at winning. Day 3? I can't putt for shit. I start studying shots. Changing balls. Adjusting my stance.
It took me a couple of years to work my way out of it. I've bought two putters. I've switched putters in the middle of a round. I've used different putters on different holes in the same round.
It was all in my head. Several months ago, I finally just stopped thinking. The last time I played I putted like a champ.
That's where Gus is. Sean is a putter.
Of all the things I thought I would read today on this board, that did not crack the top 1000. :thumsup:
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I don't think there's one QB that will win us football games.
White is not our best chance at winning. He's our best chance at not getting blown out. Obliterated. Embarrassed. He can at least connect a few passes, but most of his drives will stall. Defenses will adjust to the very limited game plan we have for him, and by the end of the game, like most of his games, the offense he manages will get around 13 points. As someone pointed out already, he has 4 tds total in 10 games played and not to mention, 4 ints as well.
He's averaging around the same YPG this year as he did last (170 vs 166).
JFIII is a pipe dream. He's fast. That's it. There is literally nothing else he has shown he can do. Nothing even really hyped about him. That's all he had coming in as a recruit: he's lightning fast. That's not a skill that wins football games.
JJ is a head case on the field. No need to rehash it all, but he'll never win us games.
I would say JFIII and JJ are sure-fire losses with embarrassing margins. Sean White might keep us in it if the other team's offense is as crappy as ours. But White will not give us the best chance to win. We need to stop describing him that way.
There's a bigger issue here than QB though. This is one of the rare times as an Auburn fan that I don't believe there is a best chance to win. It's all about not losing and not losing badly. Our QBs don't give us a best chance to win - most of them are assured losses. One of them might prevent us from getting BTFO.
Our offensive line isn't going to win us any games. They're one of the worst in the country in the TFL category. They kill drives. That's not a best chance to win - that's an assured loss.
Our running backs are our only bright spot. Maybe the receivers, but they will be hampered by the offense line and QB play. Our running backs might give us a chance to win if they can pop some big plays. But don't forget that we play in the SEC and most of our opponents will limit the number of big plays one player can make if the team around him sucks.
2012 and 2015 are the only years I ever experienced where I hit the point that I sincerely believed we would not win another meaningful game. I'm pretty much there in 2016. There are no answers this year. That's on Gus. Might be on the players as well. Maybe Gus has had terrible luck recruiting kids that can get the job done. But maybe that should be his responsibility too.
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Our offensive line isn't going to win us any games. They're one of the worst in the country in the TFL category. They kill drives. That's not a best chance to win - that's an assured loss.
Again...gameplan ...gameplan...gameplan
It's easy to say our Offensive Line sucks but when we run it 90% of the time on first down and end up in a third down(+6yds) all the defense has to do is pin their ears back. They don't have a chance!
Listen we have all said we know what is coming on offense we have watched enough Auburn football. What about the guy that does this as a job, you don't think our opposing defensive coordinators aren't clued into Gus's tendencies.
Fuck I'm an avg Joe and I could stop our offense if you give me 11 players.
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I don't think there's one QB that will win us football games.
White is not our best chance at winning. He's our best chance at not getting blown out. Obliterated. Embarrassed. He can at least connect a few passes, but most of his drives will stall. Defenses will adjust to the very limited game plan we have for him, and by the end of the game, like most of his games, the offense he manages will get around 13 points. As someone pointed out already, he has 4 tds total in 10 games played and not to mention, 4 ints as well.
He's averaging around the same YPG this year as he did last (170 vs 166).
JFIII is a pipe dream. He's fast. That's it. There is literally nothing else he has shown he can do. Nothing even really hyped about him. That's all he had coming in as a recruit: he's lightning fast. That's not a skill that wins football games.
JJ is a head case on the field. No need to rehash it all, but he'll never win us games.
I would say JFIII and JJ are sure-fire losses with embarrassing margins. Sean White might keep us in it if the other team's offense is as crappy as ours. But White will not give us the best chance to win. We need to stop describing him that way.
There's a bigger issue here than QB though. This is one of the rare times as an Auburn fan that I don't believe there is a best chance to win. It's all about not losing and not losing badly. Our QBs don't give us a best chance to win - most of them are assured losses. One of them might prevent us from getting BTFO.
Our offensive line isn't going to win us any games. They're one of the worst in the country in the TFL category. They kill drives. That's not a best chance to win - that's an assured loss.
Our running backs are our only bright spot. Maybe the receivers, but they will be hampered by the offense line and QB play. Our running backs might give us a chance to win if they can pop some big plays. But don't forget that we play in the SEC and most of our opponents will limit the number of big plays one player can make if the team around him sucks.
2012 and 2015 are the only years I ever experienced where I hit the point that I sincerely believed we would not win another meaningful game. I'm pretty much there in 2016. There are no answers this year. That's on Gus. Might be on the players as well. Maybe Gus has had terrible luck recruiting kids that can get the job done. But maybe that should be his responsibility too.
No again. It's on this coaching triad to get the most out of them, call the correct plays and not fucking up Steel's defense. We should be able to hang with this gimp of a three yards and a cloud of shit on our worst day of play calling.
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No again. It's on this coaching triad to get the most out of them, call the correct plays and not fucking up Steel's defense. We should be able to hang with this gimp of a three yards and a cloud of shit on our worst day of play calling.
God help me I agree with the jmar.
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I guarantee you that you put aTm OC Noel Mazzone in for Malzahn and we win, you cannot tell me that Trevor Knight is any better a QB than Sean is.
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God help me I agree with the jmar.
And should tell you something.
The coaches cannot game plan for what we have on the field. Not going to happen. If I had to play QB for Auburn, Gus couldn't game plan to win with me on the field.
We SHOULD be able to put together some kind of productive offense that at least eats clock and gets us some field goals while giving the defense great field position. But we don't have that. We don't have the players for it even if Gus didn't have his head up his ass half the time.
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God help me I agree with the jmar.
Goddamnit I am the one and only Uncle Rico on this site. I called the fucking plays and changed most of them. You can't run a fucking offense strictly from the sidelines. It's not possible if you intend to win. You have to take the reins and tell your guys that believe in you just what has to happen for the team to score. It's often that simple.You know the playbook and you tell the x receiver to hold his cut until the y arrives and you hurl the mfer off your front food and catch him in stride.
Fuck a goddamned genius!
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And should tell you something.
The coaches cannot game plan for what we have on the field. Not going to happen. If I had to play QB for Auburn, Gus couldn't game plan to win with me on the field.
We SHOULD be able to put together some kind of productive offense that at least eats clock and gets us some field goals while giving the defense great field position. But we don't have that. We don't have the players for it even if Gus didn't have his head up his ass half the time.
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Goddamnit I am the one and only Uncle Rico on this site. I called the fucking plays and changed most of them. You can't run a fucking offense strictly from the sidelines. It's not possible if you intend to win. You have to take the reins and tell your guys that believe in you just what has to happen for the team to score. It's often that simple.You know the playbook and you tell the x receiver to hold his cut until the y arrives and you hurl the mfer off your front food and catch him in stride.
Fuck a goddamned genius!
But did you win state!
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We already have a viable run game
All we need to do is mix in some short routes with an occasional deep ball. This is one of the better Ds we will face. We can't just push them around like Arky State.
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But did you win state!
Sadly no. But those fuckers would run through a wall for me...to this day.
Okay maybe a small, shallow wall...but there's the love and comraderie to make us still want to.
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You can't run a fudgeing offense strictly from the sidelines. It's not possible if you intend to win. You have to take the reins and tell your guys that believe in you just what has to happen for the team to score. It's often that simple.You know the playbook and you tell the x receiver to hold his cut until the y arrives and you hurl the mfer off your front food and catch him in stride.
fudge a goddamned genius!
Exactly! You give your QB the chance to read a defense and audible out of the twirlybird once a series at least!
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And should tell you something.
The coaches cannot game plan for what we have on the field. Not going to happen. If I had to play QB for Auburn, Gus couldn't game plan to win with me on the field.
We SHOULD be able to put together some kind of productive offense that at least eats clock and gets us some field goals while giving the defense great field position. But we don't have that. We don't have the players for it even if Gus didn't have his head up his ass half the time.
but this isn't you or on the field. These are players that have spent multiple years in the system.
Again Sean is more than capable of winning ball games, he is at least as good as Trevor Knight, The UF QB, anything LSU has, and the last two bama QB's. It is all gameplan.
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Dude. He's NOT a quarterback. He's a guy with a little speed and even littler brains.
He had a cancerous attitude at juco. Wasn't close to seeing the field at FSU. Doesn't have the toughness to be a running back. Doesn't have the football IQ to be a quarterback. Doesn't have the size or hands to be a receiver. He's the perfect stereotype for a kid who's recruited as an "athlete" because he doesn't do anything well enough to be established at any position.
So he's got a little speed. So fucking what. He's not nearly as smart as Marshall and that should tell you something.
One of the fastest players in the SEC, is more than "a little speed". As for someone worrying about him turning the ball over...Sean White has 1 int., JF3 has 0 ints.
Wasn't close to seeing the field at FSU? He was behind the Heisman trophy winner, fucking moron.
And yes, JF3 gives Auburn the best chance to win this Saturday. Because he plays the way Coach Malzahn is calling the games. He can throw the little outs and WR screens that Malzahn loves to call and he can help in the running game more so than Sean White.
I don't believe in the whole, "he don't know the whole playbook." So the fuck what, Coach Malzahn has never called more than 10 different plays. They're all some variation of each other...if you know one play, you know two or three.
Plus, like I stated earlier, Jeremy Johnson knows all the plays, he's hot garbage. Sean White knows all the plays, still not impressed. Oh yeah, he looked like Joe Montana against ASU, but against SEC teams he gets antsy in the pocket. A antsy QB that isn't that quick or fast is a sacked QB or one that likes to throw errant passes and cost the team 15 yards and a loss of downs for illegal grounding.
LSU is this weekend. I'm thinking that Sean White continues getting antsy or flustered and JF3 finishes the game. Then next week JF3 is named the starter and Woody Barrett as the backup. Sean White and Johnson hold up the flash cards. Of course I could be wrong and Sean White channels his inner Joe Montana and Auburn goes on a 26 game win streak, beating the dog shit outta everyone.
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Fuck it. Just bring Chris Todd in for a day to show 'em how its done and fit JFIII for about 10 plays. That's all we need with our talent which skillwise is as good as it's ever been with the exception of running back which is still close. Open it up you boring assed eccentric mfer. We've got 'lectricity n everthing.
I'd remove Rhett Lashlee as the QB Coach and bring in Chris Todd.
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Dude. He's NOT a quarterback. He's a guy with a little speed and even littler brains.
He had a cancerous attitude at juco. Wasn't close to seeing the field at FSU. Doesn't have the toughness to be a running back. Doesn't have the football IQ to be a quarterback. Doesn't have the size or hands to be a receiver. He's the perfect stereotype for a kid who's recruited as an "athlete" because he doesn't do anything well enough to be established at any position.
So he's got a little speed. So fucking what. He's not nearly as smart as Marshall and that should tell you something.
Agreed. But why did Gus or Lash think he was? Apparently only us and Buffalo out of judo.
I would love for him to be close to Nick's level. Ain't happening, I don't believe.
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Agreed. But why did Gus or Lash think he was? Apparently only us and Buffalo out of judo.
I would love for him to be close to Nick's level. Ain't happening, I don't believe.
Stop it. Tammy done told you JF3 is da bomb!
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I'd remove Rhett Lashlee
just doing this would be a start.
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I think the fact that Gus doesn't let Shawn change the play at the pre-snap read is killing us. I thought Sean played a good game tonight.
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I think the fact that Gus doesn't let Shawn change the play at the pre-snap read is killing us. I thought Sean played a good game tonight.
Definitely. Check this out. Seeing how we are challenged in the redzone and after seeing Kerryon summon his inner Trey Mason, what about bringing in an extra tackle and going with a two back set? So we lose a receiver. As it stands we aren't a threat by air, and we could always go quick game with Stovall and M. Davis along with some sprint-outs and bootleg just to keep 'em honest.
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Hell I think I might name this package after you my friend... something creative.
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One of the fastest players in the SEC, is more than "a little speed".
Usain Bolt for QB.
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White was 19-26 for 234 yards. Red zone was frustrating but Stevens dropped a sure 6. Nice all around game.
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Lashlee called well enough to win. Overall, I think he did fair. We should've been able to score 2 td's out of those drives but I'm just happy with a win. I hope we get some pt for Woody this week.
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White was 19-26 for 234 yards. Red zone was frustrating but Stevens dropped a sure 6. Nice all around game.
He dropped several key passes. He is our new Sammie!
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He dropped several key passes. He is our new Sammie!
Werd. Bad game for Stevens. But damn, I'm getting semi chub for our future at receiver. Ryan Davis, Darius Slayton, Kyle Davis etc. These are some bad ass mofos. We may be raw and more importantly, not of the mindset offensively yet to try and use these guys, but I'm 100% certain this is the deepest, most athletic group we've had in a long, long time, if not ever. My favorite group was Obewonaboomado, Aromatherapyshoo and Mix. But we also worked in the tight end in 04'.
We've got numbers now. And tall, athletic kids out the wazoo. I'd like to see us take this week against ULM, open up the playbook and start developing a real passing game.
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My favorite group was Obewonaboomado, Aromatherapyshoo and Mix. But we also worked in the tight end in 04'.
Courtney Taylor wants to know why you got to be such a bitch.
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Didn't say individual WR's. There's a lot that would trump what we have now. Courtney included.
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Didn't say individual WR's. There's a lot that would trump what we have now. Courtney included.
Courtney was there at the same time as Amushroomadoo, Oobamananu and Mix.
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Courtney was there at the same time as Amushroomadoo, Oobamananu and Mix.
I just checked the stats and let me tell you something right now. Courtney Taylor may have been on that team and he may have had more receptions, yardage and TD's than Obasawonapoo and Aropadoopadoo... BUT...
You are totally correct. Baddest ever. This group is athletic as hell, but they have a long way to go to live up to those standards. It would help to have Jason Campbell running the show, though.
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I just checked the stats and let me tell you something right now. Courtney Taylor may have been on that team and he may have had more receptions, yardage and TD's than Obasawonapoo and Aropadoopadoo... BUT...
You are totally correct. Baddest ever. This group is athletic as hell, but they have a long way to go to live up to those standards. It would help to have Jason Campbell running the show, though.
The difference from then to now was having the correct mix of calls with arguably the best running back duo in cfb. We have that ability, we just don't have the consistent playcalling with the right groups in the game... especially in the redzone. And during Campbell's time at Auburn, we couldn't be kept out of the endzone.
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I can't ever catch up on the flood of posts on Monday mornings, and I just skimmed this one, so it may have already been said.
Against Clemson, Gus rotated the 3 QBs on a conveyor belt, so none of them could get into a rhythm. Dumb.
Against A&M, they stuck with Sean the entire game until it was out of reach, then they stuck with Franklin: Dumb.
Against LSU, Sean White was moving the ball and doing everything you could ask of him. UNTIL we got in the red zone. Then we couldn't do shit. THAT is when you put Franklin in. Those 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 1 on the goal line before the half? Why not play JF3, Karryon & Pettway at the same time? At least give the defense something to think about. They had three tries to mix it up with handing it off and him taking it himself. THAT'S THE ONE TRICK THIS PONY KNOWS and they wouldn't use it.
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I thought the play calling was improved myself on Saturday for the most part. 388 yds against a very talented D. I thought we did a good job of mixing in pace and taking our time. My issue was on the goal line the OL never got a push. Once we left #52 untouched and dropped for a loss. The wildcat with Kerryon was about half a yard to a yard shy but we got pushed backwards by LSU's big hogmolly linemen. Our OL is killing us right now.
I saw this posted elsewhere, not as good as StatSnaggs, but still something to think about.
Here's another way to look at RZ TD scoring:
We suck at it right now, but last year we were 62.7% in RZ TDs, which is a really good percentage. The problem with RZ TDs is we aren't scoring TDs from outside the RZ so it makes RZ TDs so much more important. We aren't able to squander the RZ TDs like we could in 2013 and 2014. Red zone trip shave gone down each year since 2013, which makes those trips vitally important because we aren't scoring nearly as frequently from outside the RZ.
Our RZ TD% in 2013 was 72.1% and, in 2014, 65.5%. But we also scored 29 and 20 TDs from outside the RZ. In 2015, we only scored 8 TDs from 20+ yards out and have only scored 2 from 20+ this season. Combine that number with the fewer attempts in the RZ (61 in '13, 58 in '14, 51 in '15, and 22 in '16), and you have a recipe for increased pressure on the RZ trips. If we were scoring TDs on big plays, our RZ woes wouldn't be nearly as big a deal as it currently is.
As bad as the RZ numbers are, this offense is currently worse in producing big play TDs, which I think is just as big an issue.
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What I saw on Saturday reminded me of Tubs years. We would go into full on conservative mode when we got to the redzone. Again I am harping we had way too many runs on first down.
We also need to tell Sean every once in awhile to throw it deep, even if the guy isn't open throw it out of bounds, we have to loosen up the defense.