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Title: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on June 24, 2016, 02:54:19 AM
Let's take an objective look.  I'll count the number of negative Trump articles on the landing page of each of the major news sites and compare that to the number of negative Whorelary articles, noting that this is a particularly bad time for her with mountains of email evidence surfacing.  This is also a good time to bury election news given the English vote to leave Europe (and abandon Islam, hopefully).

USA Today:
Pro Hellary 2
Negative Trump 2
Negative Butchlary 0

Fox
Negative Trump 2
Negative Hillbillary 2

CNN
Pro-Shillary 2
Negative Trump 3
Negative Hitlery  0

MSNBC
Pro-Bitchlary 2
Negative Trump 4
Negative Slutlary 0


The total?

Articles either against Trump or for that foul bitch: 17
Articles negative toward that withered hag: 2 

Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: wesfau2 on June 24, 2016, 08:32:18 AM
I think we can all agree that each outlet skews towards its audience.

That said, it's entirely possible that Trump simply garners/deserves negative press for the mouth-breathingly stupid shit he says.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on June 24, 2016, 08:40:00 AM
I think we can all agree that each outlet skews towards its audience.

That said, it's entirely possible that Trump simply garners/deserves negative press for the mouth-breathingly stupid shit he says.

Few of the articles were about anything he said. 

And besides, what you consider "mouth-breathingly stupid" may not, in fact, meet the standard for such a derogatory categorization.  Perhaps those who see his statements as such merely exist in a sheltered cocoon.  Maybe his "idiotic statements" resonate with people who feel the same way but aren't as unabashedly brazen about it. 

The "press" doesn't have the moral, ethical or educational high ground.  Some of the biggest fools I know are members of "the press"   They are passionately and ardently wrong on a daily basis.  They're the ones who won't fight, but make a living bitching about how those who do go about it. 
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: wesfau2 on June 24, 2016, 09:12:32 AM
Few of the articles were about anything he said. 

And besides, what you consider "mouth-breathingly stupid" may not, in fact, meet the standard for such a derogatory categorization.  Perhaps those who see his statements as such merely exist in a sheltered cocoon.  Maybe his "idiotic statements" resonate with people who feel the same way but aren't as unabashedly brazen about it. 

The "press" doesn't have the moral, ethical or educational high ground.  Some of the biggest fools I know are members of "the press"   They are passionately and ardently wrong on a daily basis.  They're the ones who won't fight, but make a living bitching about how those who do go about it.

I'm no great defender of the media.  Once they realized they could subsidize their financials with ad revenue, they lost most of their necessary objectivity.

Subtle insult ignored, but Trump says some horsefuck dumb things.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: The Six on June 24, 2016, 09:33:34 AM
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Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 24, 2016, 09:39:35 AM
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If you want to continue to post in this forum then you need to talk American.

I guess we need to build a wall around the x.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on June 24, 2016, 09:47:33 AM
I'm no great defender of the media.  Once they realized they could subsidize their financials with ad revenue, they lost most of their necessary objectivity.

Subtle insult ignored, but Trump says some horsefuck dumb things.

I don't think he says "horsefuck dumb things" any moreso than Clitlary does.  Media simply makes a bigger deal out of his.  Fallon, Kimmel, SNL all do parodies of the "horsefuck dumb things" while simultaneously trying to make that yammering shrew look intelligent.

No "subtle insult" intended.  I had to scratch and claw for what I've gotten out of life.  Choices I made helped create that situation.  My kids (well, not kids any longer) were protected from that and haven't had to endure the same struggles I did.  Their perspective is very different from mine.  Both would probably have voted for Bernie if he'd taken Clinton down (and if both were of age). 

Everybody's a product of their own experiences.  Before I bought the furniture store in the 1990s and got to see first-hand what those living on the government dime actually did with their lives I was fairly liberal when it came to social programs.  What I saw there hardened me.  Yeah, there are a few deserving people but 90% of the ones I encountered were beating the system in one way or another and deserved no sympathy or handouts.  It changed me.  Before I had kids, I was a lot more liberal on moral/ethical issues.  I'm a product of a different era, one that still holds on to the concepts of God and Country.  The flag isn't something to make socks, boxers, towels and sunglasses out of. It's a symbol of the greatness of this country. Etc. 

Among the many, many reasons I could never vote for Hillary is the fact that she does not speak to my own personal patriotism in any way whatsoever.  She (and Obama) care much more about what the world thinks than I do.  We are America, fuck them. 

Trump's bluster, his beliigerence, his "fuck you" attitude does resonate with me at a base level.  Sure he says dumb things. But my sense is that in his heart he does believe in the American Way.  That's more than enough for me when she's the opposite choice. 
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on June 24, 2016, 09:48:59 AM
If you want to continue to post in this forum then you need to talk American.

I guess we need to build a wall around the x.

Please do.  And make them pay for it.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 24, 2016, 09:52:22 AM
I don't think he says "horsefuck dumb things" any moreso than Clitlary does.  Media simply makes a bigger deal out of his.  Fallon, Kimmel, SNL all do parodies of the "horsefuck dumb things" while simultaneously trying to make that yammering shrew look intelligent.

No "subtle insult" intended.  I had to scratch and claw for what I've gotten out of life.  Choices I made helped create that situation.  My kids (well, not kids any longer) were protected from that and haven't had to endure the same struggles I did.  Their perspective is very different from mine.  Both would probably have voted for Bernie if he'd taken Clinton down (and if both were of age). 

Everybody's a product of their own experiences.  Before I bought the furniture store in the 1990s and got to see first-hand what those living on the government dime actually did with their lives I was fairly liberal when it came to social programs.  What I saw there hardened me.  Yeah, there are a few deserving people but 90% of the ones I encountered were beating the system in one way or another and deserved no sympathy or handouts.  It changed me.  Before I had kids, I was a lot more liberal on moral/ethical issues.  I'm a product of a different era, one that still holds on to the concepts of God and Country.  The flag isn't something to make socks, boxers, towels and sunglasses out of. It's a symbol of the greatness of this country. Etc. 

Among the many, many reasons I could never vote for Hillary is the fact that she does not speak to my own personal patriotism in any way whatsoever.  She (and Obama) care much more about what the world thinks than I do.  We are America, fuck them. 

Trump's bluster, his beliigerence, his "fuck you" attitude does resonate with me at a base level.  Sure he says dumb things. But my sense is that in his heart he does believe in the American Way.  That's more than enough for me when she's the opposite choice.
I just have to say that even as crusty and abrasive as you are, sometimes you go and post something like this and it makes me want to have your baby.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: CCTAU on June 24, 2016, 09:53:30 AM
Trump's bluster, his beliigerence, his "fuck you" attitude does resonate with me at a base level.  Sure he says dumb things. But my sense is that in his heart he does believe in the American Way.  That's more than enough for me when she's the opposite choice.

Those raised on the teet may never get it...
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: GH2001 on June 24, 2016, 10:59:03 AM
I think we can all agree that each outlet skews towards its audience.

That said, it's entirely possible that Trump simply garners/deserves negative press for the mouth-breathingly stupid shit he says.

And Hillary deserves it for all the corrupt shit she's done the last 25 years. But it largely gets glossed over, ignored or simply "filed away" aka nothing to see here move on.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: RottenBottom on June 24, 2016, 11:00:37 AM
Don't worry. Trump hasn't even started in her yet.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: The Six on June 24, 2016, 11:11:28 AM
Please do.  And make them pay for it.

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Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on June 24, 2016, 11:16:09 AM
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Your responses are rarely relevant.  Congratulations on keeping that string intact with this one.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: wesfau2 on June 24, 2016, 11:59:15 AM
And Hillary deserves it for all the corrupt shit she's done the last 25 years. But it largely gets glossed over, ignored or simply "filed away" aka nothing new to see here move on.

News is current events, no?
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: The Six on June 24, 2016, 12:27:51 PM
Your responses are rarely relevant.  Congratulations on keeping that string intact with this one.

Weak...as per the usual
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 24, 2016, 01:25:02 PM
Don't worry. Trump hasn't even started in her yet.
ISWYDT or whatever that crazy kids acronym is. You used "started in her" on purpose instead of "started on her".

What a vile and disgusting inference regarding our two presidential nominees.

Good job.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on June 24, 2016, 01:35:19 PM
News is current events, no?

So how does an article titled "does the TelePrompTer make Donald trump sniff"  -- available now on CNN -- qualify when there is no mention of clintons email lies or the skullduggery involved there?
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: wesfau2 on June 24, 2016, 01:49:37 PM
So how does an article titled "does the TelePrompTer make Donald trump sniff"  -- available now on CNN -- qualify when there is no mention of clintons email lies or the skullduggery involved there?


They skew to their audience.  I'm sure you can find a more acceptable ratio of Trump to Hillary stories on any website that is geared toward the Trumpers.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: GH2001 on June 24, 2016, 02:35:19 PM
News is current events, no?

True. But playing devils advocate one could say that most of trumps negatives are nothing new as well. Whether it be his divorce, business failures, brash opinions etc.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: wesfau2 on June 24, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
True. But playing devils advocate one could say that most of trumps negatives are nothing new as well. Whether it be his divorce, business failures, brash opinions etc.

True.  But on a day-to-day basis, the volume of his new fuckups keeps him in the cycle moreso than Hillary's.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: GH2001 on June 24, 2016, 02:45:05 PM
True.  But on a day-to-day basis, the volume of his new fuckups keeps him in the cycle moreso than Hillary's.

She has better and bigger tarps.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: wesfau2 on June 24, 2016, 02:58:44 PM
She has better and bigger tarps.

He's the more entertaining foil.  They seize on a gaffe, he lambasts them, everybody wins.

Clinton is more circumspect, providing less ammunition.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: GH2001 on June 24, 2016, 03:22:25 PM
He's the more entertaining foil.  They seize on a gaffe, he lambasts them, everybody wins.

Clinton is more circumspect, providing less ammunition.

Ratings perhaps? Love him or hate him, he draws a crowd. She is rather boring by comparison - all of the politics aside.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on June 24, 2016, 03:34:03 PM
Example: Trump's reaction to Brexit is that it's good a thing that it will hurt the UK economy and the British pound because it will help his golf course in Scotland because more people can afford to go to it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/24/in-scotland-trump-celebrates-brexit-vote/
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: wesfau2 on June 24, 2016, 03:37:55 PM
Ratings perhaps? Love him or hate him, he draws a crowd. She is rather boring by comparison - all of the politics aside.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on June 24, 2016, 06:16:20 PM
Example: Trump's reaction to Brexit is that it's good a thing that it will hurt the UK economy and the British pound because it will help his golf course in Scotland because more people can afford to go to it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/24/in-scotland-trump-celebrates-brexit-vote/

^^^^
Misconstrued, opinionated, predjudical bullshit from an anti-Trump news rag.  It began from a predetermined point of view and backfilled as opposed to providing even a semblance of objectivity. 

And I even read some of this one. 
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on June 25, 2016, 08:57:18 AM
Example: Trump's reaction to Brexit is that it's good a thing that it will hurt the UK economy and the British pound because it will help his golf course in Scotland because more people can afford to go to it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/24/in-scotland-trump-celebrates-brexit-vote/

And this is an example of the media bias.
HEADLINE
Quote
Trump celebrates Brexit vote: ‘When the pound goes down, more people are coming to Turnberry.’

Although he said that in the AFTERNOON press conference not the morning press conference. I didn't see it, but I would imagine someone asked how it would affect his golf course. I didn't see him say the pound going down was a good thing you you said he did.

This plays into what OP is saying. Read the above story and then this from Fox News:

Quote
Donald Trump cast Britain’s decision to leave the European Union as a revolt against unfettered immigration into the West, as Thursday's vote emboldened both the billionaire’s anti-establishment bid for president and other break-away efforts across Europe.

From the Netherlands to France, political parties opposed to high immigration levels were demanding their own referendums on E.U. membership in the wake of the decision.

“We should have a referendum about a 'Nexit' as soon as possible,” Dutch politician Geert Wilders told Reuters, in reference to a proposed Netherlands exit.

France’s right-wing National Front party leader Marine Le Pen made a similar appeal on Twitter, while circulating a petition for France to vote on following the U.K. out the European Union door.

Both leaders, like Trump, have built a political brand railing against open border policies. After the “Brexit” vote, Trump claimed those sentiments were gaining steam on both sides of the Atlantic and even suggested the break-up of the European Union may loom.

“It looks like it's on it's way. We'll see what happens,” he said, speaking during a previously scheduled – but well-timed – visit to his golf resorts in Scotland.

Trump, unlike President Obama, backed the push for Britain to leave the union. On Friday, he pointed to frustration over policies “where people just flow across the border like Swiss cheese.”

“I think a lot of it's borders, I think a lot of it is immigration,” he said.

He acknowledged trade deals and a desire for greater independence also played a role. Whether anti-immigration sentiment runs so deep as to portend a wave of similar referendums – and greater support in America for Trump than the polls currently reflect – remains to be seen. But Trump hammered the narrative Friday that the Britain result was a sign of the anger pulsing through the Western electorate.

"They're angry over borders, they're angry over people coming into the country and taking over, nobody even knows who they are," Trump said.

For her part, presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton suggested the vote should strengthen her appeal in the U.S.

“This time of uncertainty only underscores the need for calm, steady, experienced leadership in the White House to protect Americans' pocketbooks and livelihoods, to support our friends and allies, to stand up to our adversaries, and to defend our interests,” she said in a statement. “It also underscores the need for us to pull together to solve our challenges as a country, not tear each other down."

Obama and other U.S. officials tried to give assurances that the U.S.-U.K. alliance would endure amid the global and financial turmoil wrought by the vote.

"The people of the United Kingdom have spoken, and we respect their decision," Obama said in a written statement. "... The United Kingdom and the European Union will remain indispensable partners of the United States even as they begin negotiating their ongoing relationship."

Obama later said during remarks at a Palo Alto, Calif., summit that he has spoken with British Prime Minister David Cameron. Based on that call, he said, “I’m confident that the U.K. is committed to an orderly transition out of the E.U.” 

While Obama and others in Washington openly joined Cameron – who now plans to resign – in opposing a “Brexit,” their voices were snubbed at the polls Thursday.

Vice President Biden, in Ireland, acknowledged the administration had looked for “a different outcome,” but stressed that the U.S. has a “longstanding friendship with the U.K.” and will respect the vote. He said that bond “runs deep and will endure.”

House Speaker Paul Ryan had a similar message.

“I respect the decision made by the people of the United Kingdom. The U.K. is an indispensable ally of the United States, and that special relationship is unaffected by this vote,” he said in a statement.

Still, the outcome in Britain potentially sets up a domino effect of similar votes across Europe – testing the cohesion of the Western alliance.

Anti-immigration parties in Sweden and Denmark also are stepping up their push for reconsidering E.U. membership. And while some congressional voices in Washington are treading carefully in the wake of the U.K. vote, others are joining Trump in touting the outcome as a sign of the times.

Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., a Trump supporter and one of the most outspoken critics of U.S. immigration policy, hailed the referendum and said in a statement, “Brexit is a warning for America.”

“Too many politicians and pundits here in America have been woefully oblivious to, or in some cases complicit in, what is going on around us,” he said. “The failed European Union experiment, and Great Britain’s rejection of it, must serve as a wake-up call for all of us in America.” 
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on June 25, 2016, 12:24:39 PM
And this is an example of the media bias.
HEADLINE
Although he said that in the AFTERNOON press conference not the morning press conference. I didn't see it, but I would imagine someone asked how it would affect his golf course. I didn't see him say the pound going down was a good thing you you said he did.

This plays into what OP is saying. Read the above story and then this from Fox News:

That's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. 

Take a statement without the circumstances and then spin an entire web of misguided nonsense around it. 
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: DnATL on June 25, 2016, 02:27:39 PM
If you want to continue to post in this forum then you need to talk American.

I guess we need to build a wall around the x.
Please do.  And make them pay for it.
Make the X great again!!
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on June 26, 2016, 10:05:21 AM
And this is an example of the media bias.
HEADLINE
Although he said that in the AFTERNOON press conference not the morning press conference. I didn't see it, but I would imagine someone asked how it would affect his golf course. I didn't see him say the pound going down was a good thing you you said he did.

This plays into what OP is saying. Read the above story and then this from Fox News:
This is just simply not true.

The link I posted contained video that showed the quote in context.

No reporter asked him how it would affect his golf course. He offered it himself. And he absolutely said the pound going down was good for Turnberry. Meaning, good for him personally.

Try watching it yourself before correcting the Washington Post on what "probably happened".

Here is the full thing from start to finish. About 90% of it is publicity for his golf course.

https://youtu.be/kq9LzF1kEtY

17:10 is where a reporter asks his opinion on Brexit. 19:30 is where one ask him his thoughts on the markets "tanking today". His response:

"Look if the pound goes down, they're gonna do more business. You know, when the pound goes down, more people are gonna come to Turnberry, frankly, and the pound has gone down, and let's see what the impact of that is."
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on June 26, 2016, 11:30:42 AM
THIS is the "bias".

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/us/politics/donald-trump-brexit.html?_r=0&referer=

Quote
Trump Packs His Blunt Phrase Book Abroad
By MAGGIE HABERMANJUNE 25, 2016

When Mitt Romney traveled to Europe as a presidential candidate in 2012, he created an uproar when he wondered aloud whether London was sufficiently prepared to host the Summer Olympics. British tabloids derided him as “Mitt the Twit” and CNN declared: “Romney’s Trip Begins in Shambles.’’

When Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey went on a trade mission to Britain, he was roundly criticized for an errant comment about vaccinations amid a measles outbreak back home. “A Vaccine for Gaffes? Chris Christie Needs It” was the headline in Commentary.

Those moments seem quaint when compared with Donald J. Trump’s news conference in Turnberry, Scotland, a day after Britain voted to leave the European Union. Over the course of 40 minutes, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee made pronouncements, predictions and asides that would have set off serious backlash for almost any other candidate.

But Mr. Trump seems to be graded on a different curve. Here are some of his more provocative remarks:

He defended Vladimir Putin.

A reporter asked Mr. Trump about the suggestion from some pundits that both he and the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin, would be the biggest political beneficiaries of the “Brexit” vote. Mr. Trump agreed that Mr. Putin could gain, and could not resist pointing out that Mr. Putin has been kind to him.

“I think he will be probably, because I know how he’s been scorned to a certain extent,” Mr. Trump said, adding later: “He said some very nice things about me. I think he probably is somewhat of a beneficiary.”

He mocked President Obama.

Traditionally, candidates for national office in the United States refrain from insulting their own leaders when they’re traveling overseas. But Mr. Trump, who has bucked almost every other tradition, made no exception for this one.

“He’s constantly dictating to the world what they should do. The world doesn’t listen to him obviously,” Mr. Trump said of Mr. Obama, who was against Britain leaving the European Union. “He’s embarrassed.”

He mocked his opponent.

Candidates also historically do not engage in politics about their own races when traveling abroad. Yet Mr. Trump described Hillary Clinton as a puppet for Mr. Obama, pointing to her support for Britain remaining in the European Union.

“She’s always misread everything,” Mr. Trump said. “If he said leave, she would have said leave. She does whatever he wants her to do. You know why, but that’s O.K.”

He bluntly declared he could make money from any economic downturn caused by the “Brexit” vote.

Politicians are wary of sounding as if they’re cheering for bad economic news, something that voters tend to respond poorly to. But Mr. Trump said that the diminished pound, which nose-dived in value after the referendum vote, could benefit his bottom line at Trump Turnberry, his luxury resort and gold course.

“When the pound goes down, more people are coming to Turnberry, frankly,” Mr. Trump said.

He said he hadn’t talked to his policy advisers at length since the vote.

“I’ve been in touch with them but there’s nothing to talk about,” Mr. Trump said. Besides, he added, he would rather have advisers who are divorced from recent global events.

“I think I want to use ones that haven’t been involved, take a look at what’s happened in the world,” Mr. Trump said.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on June 26, 2016, 11:34:55 AM
THIS is the "bias".

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/us/politics/donald-trump-brexit.html?_r=0&referer=
Related:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ8on8s0Hfk

Ignore the video entirely and reply "LOL DIDN'T WATCH! DIFFERENT OPINIONS FROM MINE ARE WORTHLESS LIES!!!"

Or maybe actually watch it and try to refute the point he makes here. Give it a shot.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on June 26, 2016, 11:59:55 AM
Related:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ8on8s0Hfk

Ignore the video entirely and reply "LOL DIDN'T WATCH! DIFFERENT OPINIONS FROM MINE ARE WORTHLESS LIES!!!"

Or maybe actually watch it and try to refute the point he makes here. Give it a shot.

Bill Mahr is an arrogant fuckhole.  Never agreed with a damn thing he's ever said.  Not going to waste any of my life listening to any more of his fuckdippery.  Fuck him. 
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on June 26, 2016, 12:03:42 PM
Bill Mahr is an arrogant fuckhole.  Never agreed with a damn thing he's ever said.  Not going to waste any of my life listening to any more of his fuckdippery.  Fuck him.
How could I have ever predicted that would be your response.

That you think you have to agree with everything anyone has ever said before you even begin to acknowledge their arguments says a lot about how you ended up in the fact-free bubble you reside in.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on June 26, 2016, 12:24:55 PM
How could I have ever predicted that would be your response.

That you think you have to agree with everything anyone has ever said before you even begin to acknowledge their arguments says a lot about how you ended up in the fact-free bubble you reside in.

I don't agree with ANYTHING I've ever heard him say.  Or with the way he says it.  He's a fucking clown.  You listen to him if you want.  I'd rather not.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on June 26, 2016, 01:12:39 PM
I don't agree with ANYTHING I've ever heard him say.  Or with the way he says it.  He's a fucking clown.  You listen to him if you want.  I'd rather not.
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Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on June 26, 2016, 08:23:35 PM
17:10 is where a reporter asks his opinion on Brexit. 19:30 is where one ask him his thoughts on the markets "tanking today". His response:

"Look if the pound goes down, they're gonna do more business. You know, when the pound goes down, more people are gonna come to Turnberry, frankly, and the pound has gone down, and let's see what the impact of that is."

I watched the part about the pound. I still stand by my statement. You are so full of hate all you see is red when Trump talks.

But even then, how the bloody hell can you hear him say:

"Look if the pound goes down, they're gonna do more business. You know, when the pound goes down, more people are gonna come to Turnberry, frankly, and the pound has gone down, and let's see what the impact of that is."
And turn it in to:
Example: Trump's reaction to Brexit is that it's good a thing that it will hurt the UK economy and the British pound because it will help his golf course in Scotland because more people can afford to go to it.

 He said if the pound goes down, they will spend more money. That's it. Those are the FACTS as you like to say. Everything else of whatever it is you interpret is your opinion.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on June 26, 2016, 09:15:45 PM
I watched the part about the pound. I still stand by my statement. You are so full of hate all you see is red when Trump talks.

But even then, how the bloody hell can you hear him say:
And turn it in to:
 He said if the pound goes down, they will spend more money. That's it. Those are the FACTS as you like to say. Everything else of whatever it is you interpret is your opinion.
If the pound goes down, the British will not spend more money. Their money will be less valuable, so effectively, they'll have less of it.

He was saying if the UK's economy is down, more people will COME TO the UK and spend money there. He specifically brought up his golf course and said more people would come there if/when the UK economy tanks.

I guess I'm a smug asshole because I have to explain this basic, obvious principle of simple economics.

Regardless of the economics, if anyone you weren't blindly in the tank for reacted to a global economic crisis by talking about how his personal business would benefit from it, it wouldn't be so hard to see how that is a bad indicator for his priorities in world events. If Hillary did it, you'd be livid. Other world leaders took note of his reaction, whether you chose to or not.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on June 26, 2016, 11:31:43 PM
If the pound goes down, the British will not spend more money. Their money will be less valuable, so effectively, they'll have less of it.

He was saying if the UK's economy is down, more people will COME TO the UK and spend money there. He specifically brought up his golf course and said more people would come there if/when the UK economy tanks.

I guess I'm a smug asshole because I have to explain this basic, obvious principle of simple economics.

Regardless of the economics, if anyone you weren't blindly in the tank for reacted to a global economic crisis by talking about how his personal business would benefit from it, it wouldn't be so hard to see how that is a bad indicator for his priorities in world events. If Hillary did it, you'd be livid. Other world leaders took note of his reaction, whether you chose to or not.

Fuck other world leaders.  They can eat my red, white and blue boxers. 
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: RWS on June 27, 2016, 07:56:56 AM
If the pound goes down, the British will not spend more money. Their money will be less valuable, so effectively, they'll have less of it.

He was saying if the UK's economy is down, more people will COME TO the UK and spend money there. He specifically brought up his golf course and said more people would come there if/when the UK economy tanks.

I guess I'm a smug asshole because I have to explain this basic, obvious principle of simple economics.

Regardless of the economics, if anyone you weren't blindly in the tank for reacted to a global economic crisis by talking about how his personal business would benefit from it, it wouldn't be so hard to see how that is a bad indicator for his priorities in world events. If Hillary did it, you'd be livid. Other world leaders took note of his reaction, whether you chose to or not.
I really think that what he is trying to say is that the pound going down may not end up being a catastrophic event as some are predicting, and the drop will be nearly negated by increase in volume.  His personal business is lumped in with the rest of them, so I'm not understanding how you think he's saying it will be a windfall for him if you're also saying it's a crisis for the other businesses.  They're all in the same boat.  I think he's saying they will all be OK.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on June 27, 2016, 09:36:21 AM
I really think that what he is trying to say is that the pound going down may not end up being a catastrophic event as some are predicting, and the drop will be nearly negated by increase in volume.  His personal business is lumped in with the rest of them, so I'm not understanding how you think he's saying it will be a windfall for him if you're also saying it's a crisis for the other businesses.  They're all in the same boat.  I think he's saying they will all be OK.
I personally think the markets will eventually stabilize and the UK will be better off for the Brexit vote in the long-term.

The specifics of how the markets may or may not react is irrelevant and beside the point that Trump was quick to make it about how it would benefit his personal business in the UK, rather than, say the people of the UK or the people of America.

This wouldn't have been a hard concept for you to grasp 4 years ago, but Trump has made disturbingly unpresidential behavior "the new norm".
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: GH2001 on June 27, 2016, 09:44:14 AM
I personally think the markets will eventually stabilize and the UK will be better off for the Brexit vote in the long-term.

The specifics of how the markets may or may not react is irrelevant and beside the point that Trump was quick to make it about how it would benefit his personal business in the UK, rather than, say the people of the UK or the people of America.

This wouldn't have been a hard concept for you to grasp 4 years ago, but Trump has made disturbingly unpresidential behavior "the new norm".

I think you are right on the brexit.

It's also crazy when a country wanting to determine its own laws and future, and be sovereign seems to "create a global financial crisis" per the media lapdogs. Oh noesssss!!!! Tells me more about the media and the rest of the world than the Brits. And also the exact reason they want to leave!
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on June 27, 2016, 09:47:54 AM
I personally think the markets will eventually stabilize and the UK will be better off for the Brexit vote in the long-term.

The specifics of how the markets may or may not react is irrelevant and beside the point that Trump was quick to make it about how it would benefit his personal business in the UK, rather than, say the people of the UK or the people of America.

This wouldn't have been a hard concept for you to grasp 4 years ago, but Trump has made disturbingly unpresidential behavior "the new norm".

(http://i.imgur.com/Fi43UJO.gif)
Gonna make you blind.  Wait.... you already are. 
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on June 27, 2016, 09:49:51 AM
I think you are right on the brexit.

It's also crazy when a country wanting to determine its own laws and future, and be sovereign seems to "create a global financial crisis" per the media lapdogs. Oh noesssss!!!! Tells me more about the media and the rest of the world than the Brits. And also the exact reason they want to leave!
We can go deep into Brexit if you want, I'm sure I agree with the majority. There's probably a more appropriate thread for it.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 27, 2016, 10:34:35 AM
We can go deep into Brexit if you want, I'm sure I agree with the majority. There's probably a more appropriate thread for it.
Oh YES! Please start another thread and expleain Brexit to me! Oh PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!
Break it down for us so that we can understand.

You are the transgender!
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: GH2001 on June 27, 2016, 10:36:58 AM
We can go deep into Brexit if you want, I'm sure I agree with the majority. There's probably a more appropriate thread for it.

Agree

In the end, it's the right move for them. They wanna be free. Sue em.

And no country leaving a "union" should put the entire world into a crisis. If it does, then we have bigger problems than the UK leaving a "union".
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on June 27, 2016, 11:14:39 AM

The specifics of how the markets may or may not react is irrelevant and beside the point that Trump was quick to make it about how it would benefit his personal business in the UK, rather than, say the people of the UK or the people of America.


But he didn't. Your blind hatred is getting the best of you.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: CCTAU on July 01, 2016, 08:46:10 AM
Aw little fella. You should be happy.the pound is back up and that Hurts Trump.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on July 22, 2016, 01:29:32 PM
Check USAToday today.

All Eyes on Tim Caine!!!

Fact Checking Trump.
Trump is mean to Cruz
David Duke gonna run for Senate
Watch Jon Stewart!

Fuck's sake. 
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on July 25, 2016, 08:24:09 AM
Keep harping on USAToday (because I do the crossword as a means to get my brain working in the mornings). 

Today:

Tim Kaine is the right pick
Hillary's fantastic record of hiring and mentoring women
Why America is voting for Hillary (which includes profiles of cops and veterans)
Hillary's darn good campaign!
Meet Hillary's loyal supporters


The "why America loves Hillary" piece includes this lovely line:
They’re with her because they find Hillary Clinton so qualified and Donald Trump so … terrifying.


I want to punch every one of those brain dead morons who support her. Punch them in the throat.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: CCTAU on July 25, 2016, 03:54:32 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/07/25/politico-acknowledges-mistake-after-reporters-revealing-email-to-dnc-is-leaked/
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on September 13, 2016, 09:49:11 AM
Comparing headlines again.  Always makes me laugh.  You know that angry, Jokerish, snarling laugh...


Fox:
What happens if Hillary quits?

USAToday:
Suburban surge to sink Trump's campaign


Neither of those things have a basis in reality. 

Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on September 13, 2016, 03:41:48 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2016/09/13/hillary-clinton-health-bill-interview-cbs/
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on September 19, 2016, 09:44:35 AM
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/296521-cnn-edits-out-clinton-reference-to-nyc-explosion-as
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on September 19, 2016, 09:57:49 AM
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/296521-cnn-edits-out-clinton-reference-to-nyc-explosion-as

Unreal. And then, knowing that the media will cover her, she criticizes Trump for using the word "bomb."  Fucking bitch.

I tried to watch a little bit of the Emmys last night, but had to turn it.  All those smug self-congratulatory bastards and their Hillary love was disgusting. 

Also saw Jimmy Fallon take a ton of unfair criticism for his interview with Trump.  Did anybody see Kimmel and Hillary yukking it up? 

Hillary's camp has the audacity to bitch about the media being unfair to her.  Really? 
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on September 19, 2016, 10:50:52 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/296753-cnn-falsely-adds-racial-to-trump-vetting-comments
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on September 20, 2016, 10:31:13 AM
ERRHHH MAH GAAAAWD!!  Trump's son said little helpless Syrian orphans are skittles!!!1!

What an insensitive ASSHOLE!!  Children are not candy meant to be eaten!!!!

 :facepalm:

I actually thought his allegory was appropriate and thought provoking. 

People are so damn stupid.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on September 20, 2016, 11:04:41 AM
ERRHHH MAH GAAAAWD!!  Trump's son said little helpless Syrian orphans are skittles!!!1!

What an insensitive ASSHOLE!!  Children are not candy meant to be eaten!!!!

 :facepalm:

I actually thought his allegory was appropriate and thought provoking. 

People are so damn stupid.
He stole the concept from this feminist meme from two years ago.

(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/ae33vdQ_700b.jpg)

Weird that everyone is outraged by exactly one of these metaphors.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on September 21, 2016, 01:45:29 PM
Fuck this smarmy asshole.  He should be fired

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2016/09/21/seth-meyers-takes-down-trump-birtherism-nyc-bombing/90776126/
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on October 07, 2016, 01:38:30 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154555067016419
Quote
ou want to know what you won't hear on CNN about the focus group from tonight's debate?

After the debate, they asked all of us in the focus group if we were decided on a candidate. Out of 28 panel members, 5 said they were decided on Clinton, 2 said they were decided on Trump, and 12 said they were going to vote 3rd party. But once they saw the response, they reshot the segment and replaced "3rd party" with "still undecided". You'll noticed on the live feed, I refused to raise my hand.

...................................................................
(The below portion has been added to my origional post 13 hours later to clear up some confusion. I want to make sure this story is told correctly because it is important)
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What happened was they asked us for the first time if any of us were now decided after having watched the debate. 5 said that they would vote for Clinton. 2 said that they would vote for Trump, and 12 said that they would vote 3rd party.

They then said they were going to reshoot it, execept this time they changed "3rd party" to "undecided". Some of us asked about the third party option, and they ignored us. They then said they were going to shoot it again, and still asked for "undecided" voteres and left out "3rd party". A lot fo the members voted "undecided" becuase it was the only option other then Trump or Clinton.

If you watch the one they aired live (when they asked us a 4th time, again leaving out the 3rd party option) you'll notice that I refused to vote for any of the options. I just wish the other 11 had done the same and not changed their vote because of the options given us.

CNN then reported that the majority of us were undecided. That was not the case when they asked how many of us where going to vote 3rd party.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on October 07, 2016, 02:02:24 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154555067016419

You know that's not how it's going to go, right? 

Gary Johnson isn't going to ride a unicorn across rainbow trails left by leprechauns to the White House. 

It's not really going to be almost 2-1 "third party"

This guy is trolling you believers . 
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on October 07, 2016, 02:04:52 PM
You know that's not how it's going to go, right? 

Gary Johnson isn't going to ride a unicorn across rainbow trails left by leprechauns to the White House. 

It's not really going to be almost 2-1 "third party"

This guy is trolling you believers .
You can check the video. Journalists on twitter are pressuring CNN for an answer.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on October 07, 2016, 02:11:39 PM
You can check the video. Journalists on twitter are pressuring CNN for an answer.

Not doubting the video, really.  Or even the version of events as he gave them. 

Just trying to prepare your anus for the pffffftttt that's going to be the Johnson result. 
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUChizad on October 07, 2016, 02:28:39 PM
You can check the video. Journalists on twitter are pressuring CNN for an answer.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/07/cnn-accused-bias-against-third-parties
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 07, 2016, 02:31:48 PM
Not doubting the video, really.  Or even the version of events as he gave them. 

Just trying to prepare your anus for the pffffftttt that's going to be the Johnson result.


Don't eat spicy Mexican food the night before.   :shit:
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: Kaos on November 04, 2016, 09:54:03 AM
Traveling this week and stuck in a hotel that gets six channels.  One is CNN.  One is Fox.  Three others are ESPN.

Watched the jobs report come out this morning. 

Fox called it dire news and a sign of a stagnant economy.  Essentially flat. 

CNN said it was a sign of clear progress and proof that the Obama administration has kept the economy moving since the Bush disaster of 2008. 

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: GH2001 on November 04, 2016, 11:45:20 AM
Traveling this week and stuck in a hotel that gets six channels.  One is CNN.  One is Fox.  Three others are ESPN.

Watched the jobs report come out this morning. 

Fox called it dire news and a sign of a stagnant economy.  Essentially flat. 

CNN said it was a sign of clear progress and proof that the Obama administration has kept the economy moving since the Bush disaster of 2008. 

 :facepalm:

Labor participation rate. All that matters. It's the lowest since carter.
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on November 04, 2016, 12:29:58 PM
Labor participation rate. All that matters. It's the lowest since carter.

Why participate when you can get everything for free
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: GH2001 on November 04, 2016, 12:41:39 PM
Why participate when you can get everything for free

Egg Zachery
Title: Re: Don't believe in media bias?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 04, 2016, 02:16:28 PM
Traveling this week and stuck in a hotel that gets six channels.  One is CNN.  One is Fox.  Three others are ESPN.

Watched the jobs report come out this morning. 

Fox called it dire news and a sign of a stagnant economy.  Essentially flat. 

CNN said it was a sign of clear progress and proof that the Obama administration has kept the economy moving since the Bush disaster of 2008. 

 :facepalm:
So, 1+1+3=6, huh?

Hey everybody, Kaos is Chizad!