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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: CCTAU on May 16, 2016, 11:20:18 AM
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This sums up dependarat leaders in a nutshell:
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It's a meme...so you know that shit is true.
It may be that Franken said that, but I suspect the paraphrase is lacking a lot of context.
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It's a meme...so you know that shit is true.
It may be that Franken said that, but I suspect the paraphrase is lacking a lot of context.
Look motherfucker, you leave my meme out of this.
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It's a meme...so you know that shit is true.
It may be that Franken said that, but I suspect the paraphrase is lacking a lot of context.
Have you heard Stuart Smalley speak?
One of the most arrogant, least knowledgable people in the universe. He was a shitty performer on SNL and an even worse politician.
It's not an exact quote but it isn't out of context. Watch the video.
https://www.americarisingpac.org/democratic-superdelegates-across-the-country-ignore-the-will-of-their-constituents/
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Serious question.
Do Wes and Chizad ever tire of being so stunningly wrong politically?
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Serious question.
Do Wes and Chizad ever tire of being so stunningly wrong politically?
I've yet to be proven wrong politically.
I'll take some examples, if you can find 'em.
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I think it's the principle folks.
The super delegates on the dem side.
The 3rd party and convention rule change threats by Romney on the GOP side.
Whether you like the front runners or not, that kind of shit reeks.
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I've yet to be proven wrong politically.
I'll take some examples, if you can find 'em.
If loving Chizzy's jizzy is wrong, you don't want to be right?
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I think it's the principle folks.
The super delegates on the dem side.
The 3rd party and convention rule change threats by Romney on the GOP side.
Whether you like the front runners or not, that kind of shit reeks.
I personally am thankful for the Democratic "establishment" thwarting the radical who, if elected could tear at the fabric of what makes America the great nation that it is.
I wish the GOP would have been successful at doing the same.
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I've yet to be proven wrong politically.
I'll take some examples, if you can find 'em.
See this thread.
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I personally am thankful for the Democratic "establishment" thwarting the radical who, if elected could tear at the fabric of what makes America the great nation that it is.
I wish the GOP would have been successful at doing the same.
Bernie is a socialist. But he would absolutely get NOTHING done. Nothing near what he is saying. No congress is going to go along with that. And I don't think he would wield an executive order hammer like other presidents. If he did it wouldn't stand anyway. Hillary is dangerous to me. She is corrupt. She is coniving. She lies like most of us breathe. She will ram shit through. I think she is more center than Bernie but she also has greater likelihood of actually implementing it. The superdelegate system is bullshit. And I'll say it again, the kinds of underhanded stuff on both sides are exactly why Bernie and trump happened. I just don't think either was the solution or anecdote to it.
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Bernie is a socialist. But he would absolutely get NOTHING done. Nothing near what he is saying. No congress is going to go along with that. And I don't think he would wield an executive order hammer like other presidents. If he did it wouldn't stand anyway. Hillary is dangerous to me. She is corrupt. She is coniving. She lies like most of us breathe. She will ram shit through. I think she is more center than Bernie but she also has greater likelihood of actually implementing it. The superdelegate system is bullshit. And I'll say it again, the kinds of underhanded stuff on both sides are exactly why Bernie and trump happened. I just don't think either was the solution or anecdote to it.
I agree with this. The only difference between you and I is that I'm not one to always stick to my principles anymore. Been there and done that X 2. Now, I am willing to gamble on the lesser of two evils.
Not going to make any difference, at least I don't think. But, at least I will know that I did my part to at least attempt keeping the slimier of the slimey out of office.
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See this thread.
Nope.
The meme uses the words "more important" to describe Franken's opinion of his judgment. He didn't say that. So...the meme is false, but just outrageous enough to be shared/liked/posted/pinned/tweeted/snapchatted/etc by your favorite mouth-breathing relatives.
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Nope.
The meme uses the words "more important" to describe Franken's opinion of his judgment. He didn't say that. So...the meme is false, but just outrageous enough to be shared/liked/posted/pinned/tweeted/snapchatted/etc by your favorite mouth-breathing relatives.
This is the problem with hyper-partisanship. It rots your brain.
Clearly, he tried to justify the "more important" meme someone photoshopped and found the "America Rising Pac" article as a result of that google search.
This is the video in question.
https://youtu.be/A3wNIVgvYcA
The description around the video, as well as the title of the video both are liberal (no pun intended) with their paraphrasing.
"The superdelegates are part of the system. I haven't read that in the rules, that interpretation."
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"I think Democratic voters who elected me to the Senate want me to exercise my judgement on who I think would be the best president of the United States and I think that person is Hillary Clinton."
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CCTAU's meme being retarded and Kaos being wrongidy wrong wrong wrong again.
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Nope.
The meme uses the words "more important" to describe Franken's opinion of his judgment. He didn't say that. So...the meme is false, but just outrageous enough to be shared/liked/posted/pinned/tweeted/snapchatted/etc by your favorite mouth-breathing relatives.
The "occupy democrats" Facebook page does it all day long. Some take it as gospel. It's quite humorous.
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I'm right about it all. Almost always am. Nothing has been factually anyhoo'd.
You will see.
Nice job wriggling away to the other thread...
I'm only holding your feet to the fire about who's right and who's wrong because of your arrogantly ignorant proclamation.
Hold still and answer the question. Is this accurate or is this Facebook meme dipshittery?
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Did Franken answer the question of why he cast his super-delegate vote for Hillary despite his state voting for Sanders with "My judgment is more important than the judgment of Minnesota voters" as his explanation?
Or are you wrong?
Hint: You're wrong.
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Nice job wriggling away to the other thread...
I'm only holding your feet to the fire about who's right and who's wrong because of your arrogantly ignorant proclamation.
Hold still and answer the question. Is this accurate or is this Facebook meme dipshittery?
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Did Franken answer the question of why he cast his super-delegate vote for Hillary despite his state voting for Sanders with "My judgment is more important than the judgment of Minnesota voters" as his explanation?
Or are you wrong?
Hint: You're wrong.
I'm on my phone. Wasn't aware I'd switched threads. Point remains that you are wrong about 90% of this stuff.
As for the Franken meme, you can parse what he said in any way you want. He said he was selected by Minnesota voters to make his own decision regardless of what the people want.
That's manipulating the intent of the rule and saying that his judgment was of greater value than theirs.
Pretty much exactly what the meme says.
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I'm on my phone. Wasn't aware I'd switched threads. Point remains that you are wrong about 90% of this stuff.
As for the Franken meme, you can parse what he said in any way you want. He said he was selected by Minnesota voters to make his own decision regardless of what the people want.
That's manipulating the intent of the rule and saying that his judgment was of greater value than theirs.
Pretty much exactly what the meme says.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uRCKtaOCU
He said he was selected by the Minnesota voters to make his decision, and said nothing about it being "regardless of what the people want".
It's not exactly what the meme says.
Wrong again.
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Y'all are splitting hairs. His job is to represent the people who voted him in office, the people of his district. The people of his district have voted for Bernie Sanders. He deciding to go against what his constituents voted for and with his own agenda is exactly what's wrong with the dipshit politicians in office. And that is exactly why y'all are about to lose your god damn minds over Trump. So stop supporting arguments to back those dickheads in doing whatever they want instead of working for the people of their regions/districts.
I agree with the guy that Bernie Sanders is a lunatic, but that's not his job. His job is to represent his constituents.
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That paragraph has some problems, but I'm using voice instead of type because I'm driving. So deal with it.
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Y'all are splitting hairs. His job is to represent the people who voted him in office, the people of his district. The people of his district have voted for Bernie Sanders. He deciding to go against what his constituents voted for and with his own agenda is exactly what's wrong with the dipshit politicians in office. And that is exactly why y'all are about to lose your god damn minds over Trump. So stop supporting arguments to back those dickheads in doing whatever they want instead of working for the people of their regions/districts.
I agree with the guy that Bernie Sanders is a lunatic, but that's not his job. His job is to represent his constituents.
First of all, I recommend you understand what a Superdelegate is and how that system is intentionally set up before speaking incorrectly about it.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=superdelegate
su·per·del·e·gate
ˈso͞opərˌdeləɡət/
noun
(in the Democratic Party) an unelected delegate who is free to support any candidate for the presidential nomination at the party's national convention.
Again, you people make arguments irrelevant to the point actually being argued which is HE DID NOT FUCKING SAY THE THING THE MEME SAYS HE SAID, and then you end up just doubling down on being wrong about the strawman argument you just propped up.
Which is why you should not get your news from a fucking photoshop without verifying for your self, or else you will end up being wrong as often as Kaos is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uRCKtaOCU
He said he was selected by the Minnesota voters to make his decision, and said nothing about it being "despite what the people want".
It's not exactly what the meme says.
Wrong again.
But him choosing to support that bitch is in opposition to the voters who resoundingly supported Bernie.
Therefore he is making his decision in defiance of the voters. Substituting his judgment for theirs.
Suppose Gus is the representative of the SEC to an NCAA Committee. The other programs overwhelmingly support a resolution banning satellite camps. Gus goes and votes the opposite way because he doesn't have a problem with them. He has substituted his opinion for that of the people he represents.
I don't care who Frankenfuck personally votes for. He's a moron. But when he is selected by the people to represent their interests and the fuckhole opts to do what he wants as opposed to their will, he is abdicating his role.
So.
You're wrong 10000000% + double infinity.
And fuck him.
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But him choosing to support that bitch is in opposition to the voters who resoundingly supported Bernie.
Therefore he is making his decision in defiance of the voters. Substituting his judgment for theirs.
Suppose Gus is the representative of the SEC to an NCAA Committee. The other programs overwhelmingly support a resolution banning satellite camps. Gus goes and votes the opposite way because he doesn't have a problem with them. He has substituted his opinion for that of the people he represents.
I don't care who Frankenfuck personally votes for. He's a moron. But when he is selected by the people to represent their interests and the fuckhole opts to do what he wants as opposed to their will, he is abdicating his role.
So.
You're wrong 10000000% + double infinity.
And fuck him.
https://youtu.be/X9uRCKtaOCU
Ooooooh, sorry, wrong again.
See the previous post:
su·per·del·e·gate
ˈso͞opərˌdeləɡət/
noun
(in the Democratic Party) an unelected delegate who is free to support any candidate for the presidential nomination at the party's national convention.
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But him choosing to support that bitch is in opposition to the voters who resoundingly supported Bernie.
Therefore he is making his decision in defiance of the voters. Substituting his judgment for theirs.
Suppose Gus is the representative of the SEC to an NCAA Committee. The other programs overwhelmingly support a resolution banning satellite camps. Gus goes and votes the opposite way because he doesn't have a problem with them. He has substituted his opinion for that of the people he represents.
I don't care who Frankenfuck personally votes for. He's a moron. But when he is selected by the people to represent their interests and the fuckhole opts to do what he wants as opposed to their will, he is abdicating his role.
So.
You're wrong 10000000% + double infinity.
And fuck him.
Ha.
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Yeah, pretty clear on the Superdelegate thing. Franken's a bitch but he's well within his rights. wiki's so it's twue...
"Because they are free to support anyone they want, superdelegates could potentially swing the results to nominate a presidential candidate who did not receive the majority of votes during the primaries."
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Yeah, pretty clear on the Superdelegate thing. Franken's a bitch but he's well within his rights. wiki's so it's twue...
"Because they are free to support anyone they want, superdelegates could potentially swing the results to nominate a presidential candidate who did not receive the majority of votes during the primaries."
I get that. But....
He is dismissing the preferrence of the people of his state and substituting his own. That can't be any clearer.
Just because he can, just because it's within his rights, just because he doesn't HAVE to follow the wishies of his electorate does not change in any fashion the very simple fact that he IS ignoring it.
That meme didn't say whether it was his right to do so. Just said that he was doing something that didn't follow what the voters said. If you bothered to watch the video you can clearly see the smarmy cocksucker say that his opinion was more important.
The people spoke. Al Frankenfucker cares not what they feel. His viewpoint is more valid than theirs.
Can or can't is utterly irrelevant here. The fact is he did. PERIOD. End of story.
Chizad can pick up his check at the wronger than fuck office between the hours of 9 am and 3 pm Monday - Thursday.
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I get that. But....
https://youtu.be/X9uRCKtaOCU
I don't think you do.
He is dismissing the preferrence of the people of his state and substituting his own. That can't be any clearer.
Just because he can, just because it's within his rights, just because he doesn't HAVE to follow the wishies of his electorate does not change in any fashion the very simple fact that he IS ignoring it.
https://youtu.be/X9uRCKtaOCU
You are clearly ignorant of the role of a Superdelegate and what it is specifically designed to do. By definition, "the people of his state" don't factor into the equation.
That meme didn't say whether it was his right to do so. Just said that he was doing something that didn't follow what the voters said.
https://youtu.be/X9uRCKtaOCU
The meme said he was asked WHY he didn't follow what the voters said and he ANSWERED that question by saying his opinion was more important. The true part was just the setup to the part designed to rile up idiots. Is English like your fifth language or something?
If you bothered to watch the video you can clearly see the smarmy cocksucker say that his opinion was more important.
https://youtu.be/X9uRCKtaOCU
Didn't say it. It's like a 10 second clip and I quoted every single thing he says on it directly and in it's entirety. You're just lying. What's his exact quote? This is just amazingly wrong.
The people spoke. Al Frankenfucker cares not what they feel. His viewpoint is more valid than theirs.
Can or can't is utterly irrelevant here. The fact is he did. PERIOD. End of story.
Chizad can pick up his check at the wronger than fuck office between the hours of 9 am and 3 pm Monday - Thursday.
https://youtu.be/X9uRCKtaOCU
Your first language must be wrongness because you can't exhale without being wrong 15 times.
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Not driving now. Was this said?
In a CNN interview, Senator Al Franken confirmed he planned to break with voters in his state by casting his superdelegate vote for Hillary Clinton; Franken's constituents overwhelmingly selected Sen. Bernie Sanders in the state's caucuses; Franken said that by electing him to office, his constituents affirmed their confidence in his judgment.
If the answer is yes, then I still say he should vote for the nominee his constitutes selected. I get that he doesn't have to, and isn't bound to do it. But that is stupid. And will likely cost him in his next election.
Again, this is the stupid bullshit that have caused the rise of Trump. But still half the country is pulling their hair out wondering why Trump is a thing.
In the end, it still doesn't matter. Bernie can't win, but at least now it isn't the GOP that is the only fucked party. I hope this is the end of all parties.
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Also, someone explain to me what the fuck is the point of the democratic primary if the super delegates are going to control the vote anyway? The Democratic Party is worse off than the GOP, and that's saying a lot.
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I'm going to try to make this simple for Chizad since his seething rage obscures his vision.
1. What state is Al Fuckenfarter from? Minnesota.
2. What was the result of Minnesota's primary? Sanders got 62% of the vote, Clinton 38%. That's not a slim margin or a result that leaves much room for interpretation. Resoundingly against Clinton.
3. What is Al Frunkencockhole's position in regard to the democratic convention? He's an unpledged delegate free to support whoever he chooses.
4. Is he required to do what the people he represents wish? Nope. Sure isn't.
5. If he is from Minnesota and represents the people of Minnesota -- officially or unofficially -- and he decides to substitute his opinion for their will has he not, therefore, made the unequivocal statement that HIS opinion is of greater value than theirs? Why yes. Yes he fucking has.
And he said as much in that clip you failed to watch or understand.
"I think Democratic voters who elected me to the Senate want me to exercise my judgement on who I think would be the best president of the United States and I think that person is Hillary Clinton."
The voters who elected him to the Senate very clearly want to support someone other than Hillary. "Exercise my judgement" means exactly the same thing as "Ignore Their Wishes" or "My Judgment Is More Important Than Theirs" in this case.
How can you possibly look at it any differently? The people he represents sent a very clear message. He's going to "exercise his judgment" and reject that message. There's no equivocation. He's deemed his judgment to be more valid, important, rational, sane, whatever the fuck you want to call it, than his people.
You lost this discussion hours and hours ago and are doing nothing more than honking in the wind since.
There's absolutely no other way to interpret it. Unless you're a raving loon.
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I'm going to try to make this simple for Chizad since his seething rage obscures his vision.
1. What state is Al Fuckenfarter from? Minnesota.
2. What was the result of Minnesota's primary? Sanders got 62% of the vote, Clinton 38%. That's not a slim margin or a result that leaves much room for interpretation. Resoundingly against Clinton.
3. What is Al Frunkencockhole's position in regard to the democratic convention? He's an unpledged delegate free to support whoever he chooses.
4. Is he required to do what the people he represents wish? Nope. Sure isn't.
5. If he is from Minnesota and represents the people of Minnesota -- officially or unofficially -- and he decides to substitute his opinion for their will has he not, therefore, made the unequivocal statement that HIS opinion is of greater value than theirs? Why yes. Yes he fucking has.
And he said as much in that clip you failed to watch or understand.
"I think Democratic voters who elected me to the Senate want me to exercise my judgement on who I think would be the best president of the United States and I think that person is Hillary Clinton."
The voters who elected him to the Senate very clearly want to support someone other than Hillary. "Exercise my judgement" means exactly the same thing as "Ignore Their Wishes" or "My Judgment Is More Important Than Theirs" in this case.
How can you possibly look at it any differently? The people he represents sent a very clear message. He's going to "exercise his judgment" and reject that message. There's no equivocation. He's deemed his judgment to be more valid, important, rational, sane, whatever the fuck you want to call it, than his people.
You lost this discussion hours and hours ago and are doing nothing more than honking in the wind since.
There's absolutely no other way to interpret it. Unless you're a raving loon.
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And he responds with another favorite celebrity.
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And he responds with another favorite celebrity.
Better that than another misguided rant.
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Also, someone explain to me what the fuck is the point of the democratic primary if the super delegates are going to control the vote anyway? The Democratic Party is worse off than the GOP, and that's saying a lot.
Also, someone explain to me what the fuck is the point of the general election if the electoral college is going to control the vote anyway?
Also...
I get that. But....
He is dismissing the preferrence of the people of his state and substituting his own. That can't be any clearer.
Just because he can, just because it's within his rights, just because he doesn't HAVE to follow the wishies of his electorate does not change in any fashion the very simple fact that he IS ignoring it.
That meme didn't say whether it was his right to do so. Just said that he was doing something that didn't follow what the voters said. If you bothered to watch the video you can clearly see the smarmy cocksucker say that his opinion was more important.
The people spoke. Al Frankenfucker cares not what they feel. His viewpoint is more valid than theirs.
Can or can't is utterly irrelevant here. The fact is he did. PERIOD. End of story.
Chizad can pick up his check at the wronger than fuck office between the hours of 9 am and 3 pm Monday - Thursday.
Ha.
And...
I'm going to try to make this simple for Chizad since his seething rage obscures his vision.
1. What state is Al Fuckenfarter from? Minnesota.
2. What was the result of Minnesota's primary? Sanders got 62% of the vote, Clinton 38%. That's not a slim margin or a result that leaves much room for interpretation. Resoundingly against Clinton.
3. What is Al Frunkencockhole's position in regard to the democratic convention? He's an unpledged delegate free to support whoever he chooses.
4. Is he required to do what the people he represents wish? Nope. Sure isn't.
5. If he is from Minnesota and represents the people of Minnesota -- officially or unofficially -- and he decides to substitute his opinion for their will has he not, therefore, made the unequivocal statement that HIS opinion is of greater value than theirs? Why yes. Yes he fucking has.
And he said as much in that clip you failed to watch or understand.
"I think Democratic voters who elected me to the Senate want me to exercise my judgement on who I think would be the best president of the United States and I think that person is Hillary Clinton."
The voters who elected him to the Senate very clearly want to support someone other than Hillary. "Exercise my judgement" means exactly the same thing as "Ignore Their Wishes" or "My Judgment Is More Important Than Theirs" in this case.
How can you possibly look at it any differently? The people he represents sent a very clear message. He's going to "exercise his judgment" and reject that message. There's no equivocation. He's deemed his judgment to be more valid, important, rational, sane, whatever the fuck you want to call it, than his people.
You lost this discussion hours and hours ago and are doing nothing more than honking in the wind since.
There's absolutely no other way to interpret it. Unless you're a raving loon.
Ha.
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Y'all are splitting hairs. His job is to represent the people who voted him in office, the people of his district. The people of his district have voted for Bernie Sanders. He deciding to go against what his constituents voted for and with his own agenda is exactly what's wrong with the dipshit politicians in office. And that is exactly why y'all are about to lose your god damn minds over Trump. So stop supporting arguments to back those dickheads in doing whatever they want instead of working for the people of their regions/districts.
I agree with the guy that Bernie Sanders is a lunatic, but that's not his job. His job is to represent his constituents.
What I've been trying to say for the last day. It's not about liking or disliking Trump or Bernie. It's about these same slime ball politicians on a power trip doing things in their own interests and not the people's. People are sick of that shit. And the end result is that the country is worse off after every term of every congressman, senator and president with the exception of a few up there who have done the right (and unpopular) things. The cronyism and dipshit politicians are what have caused this. People don't feel they are being listened to. And whether Bernie or Trump are the answer or not, people feel like they are cut from a different cloth than the bullshit that's been fed to them thus far.
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Also, someone explain to me what the fuck is the point of the general election if the electoral college is going to control the vote anyway.
Because the popular vote in a state controls that system that flows uphill. The electoral college is bound in a general. If Georgia votes for Trump in general then he gets all those delegates for Georgia. No flex. No negotiation. Super delegates in a primary can do what they want regardless of what the people vote for. That's a big difference. In fact total opposites.
What if I told you the superdelegate have been stacked for Hillary since before this thing started and that she was getting them regardless of the vote in each state. Wouldn't you say that's pretty unethical and rigged?
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Because the popular vote in a state controls that system that flows uphill. The electoral college is bound in a general. If Georgia votes for Trump in general then he gets all those delegates for Georgia. No flex. No negotiation.
Not exactly true.
From the Electoral College's own website:
Electors in these States are not bound by State Law to cast their vote for a specific candidate:
ARIZONA
ARKANSAS
DELAWARE
GEORGIA
IDAHO
ILLINOIS
INDIANA
IOWA
KANSAS
KENTUCKY
LOUISIANA
MINNESOTA
MISSOURI
NEW HAMPSHIRE
NEW JERSEY
NEW YORK
NORTH DAKOTA
PENNSYLVANIA
RHODE ISLAND
SOUTH DAKOTA
TENNESSEE
TEXAS
UTAH
WEST VIRGINIA
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/electors.html
What if I told you the superdelegate have been stacked for Hillary since before this thing started and that she was getting them regardless of the vote in each state. Wouldn't you say that's pretty unethical and rigged?
Rigged? I'd say that the rules are in place and Hillary is better at playing the game.
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Rigged? I'd say that the rules are in place and Hillary is better at playing the game.
Yep. She deserves to be President.
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Not exactly true.
From the Electoral College's own website:
Electors in these States are not bound by State Law to cast their vote for a specific candidate:
ARIZONA
ARKANSAS
DELAWARE
GEORGIA
IDAHO
ILLINOIS
INDIANA
IOWA
KANSAS
KENTUCKY
LOUISIANA
MINNESOTA
MISSOURI
NEW HAMPSHIRE
NEW JERSEY
NEW YORK
NORTH DAKOTA
PENNSYLVANIA
RHODE ISLAND
SOUTH DAKOTA
TENNESSEE
TEXAS
UTAH
WEST VIRGINIA
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/electors.html
Rigged? I'd say that the rules are in place and Hillary is better at playing the game.
But they do typically. Traditionally anyway. Very rare not to. With the superdelegates it's a lot more common.
What I was getting at with Hillary is that it's popular opinion that she has had these superdelegates stacked since before this thing even got rolling with the help of her enormous influence ($ + the Clinton slush fund aka foundation) and Debbie Wasserman Shultz , the dnc chair. Bernie never even had a chance. This thing was pre-decided. That's pretty shitty to me.
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Yep. She deserves to be President.
Not what I'm saying.
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Not what I'm saying.
So do you think she deserves to be the Democratic nominee?
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So do you think she deserves to be the Democratic nominee?
"Deserves" is pretty loaded.
I'd prefer Bernie. But if he hasn't played the game (despite his well-documented years to learn it), then it ain't him.
Ultimately, I'd prefer a system with true choices beyond R and D.
In the game we have, it is what it is.
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I'd prefer Bernie.
Any argument you make from this point on is rendered invalid.
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Any argument you make from this point on is rendered invalid.
Over Hillary and Trump, absolutely.
Trump is such a blustering, substance blackhole that I have to disregard him. Since my vote counts in FL, I must vote mainstream party (when the situation is as dire as it is currently).
You in the foregone states actually have the luxury of voting 3rd party and building their numbers towards viability.
I do not.
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Over Hillary and Trump, absolutely.
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Maybe you want to pay 3x as much in taxes while Prowler gets free Cheetos. I do not.
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Maybe you want to pay 3x as much in taxes while Prowler gets free Cheetos. I do not.
Trump won't enact his asinine plans.
Bernie won't enact his extreme plans.
Hillary has the best shot, and she is relatively in line with my beliefs, but she won't enact any sweeping policy changes.
The checks and balances are there for a reason.
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Hillary has the best shot, and she is relatively in line with my beliefs......
Once again your subsequent arguments have been voided.
Voted off the island. No immunity.
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Once again your subsequent arguments have been voided.
Voted off the island. No immunity.
O.
K.
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Trump won't enact his asinine plans.
Bernie won't enact his extreme plans.
Hillary has the best shot, and she is relatively in line with my beliefs, but she won't enact any sweeping policy changes.
The checks and balances are there for a reason.
You mean how they worked with Obamacare and the Scotus farce judgement?
Or his amnesty executive action?
Those kinds of checks and balances mean jack squat to people like Barry and Hillary. They do what they want and no one in congress or the senate aside from Paul or Cruz have the balls to call them on it even using a filibuster if necessary.
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Over Hillary and Trump, absolutely.
Trump is such a blustering, substance blackhole that I have to disregard him. Since my vote counts in FL, I must vote mainstream party (when the situation is as dire as it is currently).
You in the foregone states actually have the luxury of voting 3rd party and building their numbers towards viability.
I do not.
OMG. I had almost written you off. The glimmer of hope is there!
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Once again your subsequent arguments have been voided.
Voted off the island. No immunity.
Yeah. I spoke too soon...
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O.
K.
That you can even consider voting for Hillary or Bernie and then chide me for my "integrity" or "credibility" is the height of irony.
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As voters, we do have a choice. We can choose either FASCISM or SOCIO-COMMUNO-MARXISM. The jury is still out on Trump.
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That you can even consider voting for Hillary or Bernie and then chide me for my "integrity" or "credibility" is the height of irony.
You have the option of another candidate. I do not.
Trump is the single biggest mistake this country could make.
As voters, we do have a choice. We can choose either FASCISM or SOCIO-COMMUNO-MARXISM. The jury is still out on Trump.
Um...Trump is the fascist in this election cycle, chuckles.
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Trump is the single biggest mistake this country could make.
Where's that buzzer sound?
No, bucko. The answer you are looking for here is "hillary"
Sorry.
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May want to slow the rolls on Hillary. The old guy beat her in Oregon yesterday and it appears she barely scraped by him in Kentucky. She may not be as wildly popular as many think she is. Obama crushed that ass last election and a crusty, old man is taking her down to the wire in this one. People may really be paying attention to her baggage.
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Where's that buzzer sound?
No, bucko. The answer you are looking for here is "hillary"
Sorry.
You're both wrong, but Kaos is, of course more wrong.
In order from good to bad...
Johnson would be a step in the right direction and actual change for the better.
Hillary would be business as usual and more of the same cronyism and bullshittery.
Sanders would be a turning point in history where our society and economy began to rapidly deteriorate. We end up being where Venezuela is within my lifetime, and in case you don't read the papers, they are 100 kids of fucked right now.
Trump would be a turning point in history where we become a hybrid of the governments of Idiocracy, 1984, and North Korea.
One is good, one is bad, and two are catastrophic.
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May want to slow the rolls on Hillary. The old guy beat her in Oregon yesterday and it appears she barely scraped by him in Kentucky. She may not be as wildly popular as many think she is. Obama crushed that ass last election and a crusty, old man is taking her down to the wire in this one. People may really be paying attention to her baggage.
Which is why I don't believe the "Hillary will thump Trump in the General" rhetoric.
The democrat primary was predetermined and Hillary still can't put the loon away.
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Sanders would be a turning point in history where our society and economy began to rapidly deteriorate. We end up being where Venezuela is within my lifetime, and in case you don't read the papers, they are 100 kids of fucked right now.
I can take a lot of things, but I won't put up with fucking the kids.
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Which is why I don't believe the "Hillary will thump Trump in the General" rhetoric.
The democrat primary was predetermined and Hillary still can't put the loon away.
I have to admit, I'm starting to agree with you. She has to be the worst politician of all time.
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Which is why I don't believe the "Hillary will thump Trump in the General" rhetoric.
The democrat primary was predetermined and Hillary still can't put the loon away.
Polls are moving already. Swing states are either + trump or toss ups at worst. And the more interviews trump does like the one last night with megyn kelly, the more the polls will keep moving to his favor. With Hillary looking more and more flawed and having issues with Bernie in the primary down to the wire, while trump can turn his full attention to exposing her as a crooked fraud, it looks more and more like trump may can pull it off.
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I can take a lot of things, but I won't put up with fucking the kids.
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