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Title: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Kaos on September 16, 2015, 02:53:42 AM
I've debated on sharing this because ya'll gonna call me a liar, but I don't care that much anyway so here goes. 

Sunday afternoon I was driving down a fairly well traveled road in Baldwin County.  Lots of residential areas near, but this particular stretch of road is mostly woods on both sides.  Yeah the woods open up into neighborhoods eventually, but they're woods as you go through. 

This animal burst out of the woods to the left, loped across the road and turned to look directly at my car as it did.  The thing crossed in front of me, leaped across the ditch and disappeared into the woods on the right.

It was a fucking panther.  A yellow-brown colored panther.  Like the pictures I've seen since of what they call Florida Panthers. 

I wasn't drunk.  I wasn't high. It wasn't a dog. It wasn't a bobcat. It wasn't somebody's overgrown kitty.  If I had to estimate I'd say the thing weighed over 100 pounds.  It crossed the entire road in three, three and a half strides. 

I'm 100% sure that what I saw was a panther.  The face,  the build, the ears, everything.  It was a panther. 

People I've told this to claim there are absolutely no panthers in Alabama. I saw a deer or something.  But I know for certain that it was a panther. 

My thought process was:
"What the fuck?  Oh shit, what is that? Holy fuck! it's a fucking panther!"

Then I saw the tail, long and curved.  Dogs, deer, bobcats, ferrets, housecats... they don't have tails like that. 

Has anybody else seen one of these damn things around?   I assume it's trying to stay as far away from people as possible, but we're talking about a wooded area less than a mile from two neighborhoods.  A wooded area full of squirrels, deer, groundhogs, mice, possums, coons and an assload of panther food. 

Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: bottomfeeder on September 16, 2015, 05:33:02 AM
We have Panthers in Lower Alabama.

http://www.fws.gov/verobeach/MammalsPDFs/AGuideToLivingWithFloridaPanthers.pdf

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46070782/pantherrepel.jpg)
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: GH2001 on September 16, 2015, 08:02:49 AM
Conservation "experts" who "study" shit and university lab rats will tell you that there are not any.

Game wardens and residents/hunters will tell you there are.

One group sits in classrooms, labs and books all day and bases it off theory. One group sits outside in nature and sees it with their own eyes.

You choose which one you believe.

FWIW - I believe you saw what you think you saw. Were right next door to Florida.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: chinook on September 16, 2015, 08:05:12 AM
I'm going to need a ruling on this post...shouldn't this be in the cool story, bro thread?


Anyhoo...

I'm betting it was a cougar.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: AUJarhead on September 16, 2015, 08:06:55 AM
60% of the time, it works every time.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: chinook on September 16, 2015, 08:13:51 AM
And on another note...I couldn't tell you anything about a Florida Panther but I am willing to bet it is a Cougar  but with a fancy name.

Also, at least in Oregon, Cougars [Mountain Lions] are fairly active right now.  I have crossed paths with 2 or 3 in the early mornings.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: GH2001 on September 16, 2015, 08:17:13 AM
And on another note...I couldn't tell you anything about a Florida Panther but I am willing to bet it is a Cougar  but with a fancy name.

Also, at least in Oregon, Cougars [Mountain Lions] are fairly active right now.  I have crossed paths with 2 or 3 in the early mornings.

Correct sir.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 16, 2015, 09:47:59 AM
Nookie's right.  Mods...lock this bitch down and move it to the Cool Story, Bro thread.  And spike K's warn meter.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Godfather on September 16, 2015, 09:48:12 AM
Anyhoo...

I'm betting it was a cougar.
Now what would a single older woman be doing crossing the road between the woods?
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 16, 2015, 09:48:21 AM
Sorry I ruined your Black Panther party
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 16, 2015, 09:53:20 AM
Now what would a single older woman be doing crossing the road between the woods?

Kaos tried to run over Courteney Cox?
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Kaos on September 16, 2015, 09:54:31 AM
Kaos tried to run over Courteney Cox?

Wouldn't have noticed if I had.  Nothing but skin stretched over bones.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: GH2001 on September 16, 2015, 10:07:48 AM
Wouldn't have noticed if I had.  Nothing but skin stretched over bones.

Her downfall was so sad.

Such a pretty girl next door early on. Why any woman thinks plastic surgery on their face is a good idea is beyond me.....
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Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 16, 2015, 10:12:46 AM
I've never seen one but I heard one. And in Baldwin County. There is absolutely no mistaking it. Yep, like a woman screaming at the top of her lungs.

May have faintly heard one before in Geneva County fishing one time. I've heard numerous panther stories from many credible people. For some reason, people think it's not true but they've been here for a long time.

My grandmother told me a story about riding in a covered wagon at night and hearing a panther following them in the trees.

A good friend of mine topped a terrace in his field one day and on top of a big rolled bail of hay, there was a panther chilling out. Looked at my friend, hopped down and slowly strolled into the woods. He said he didn't look scared at all.

Panthers are pretty bad dudes.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: RottenBottom on September 16, 2015, 11:32:02 AM
One used to live in my friends cow pasture, and I've heard one turkey hunting one morning.  They're beautiful cats.
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Post by: DnATL on September 16, 2015, 01:13:26 PM
One used to live in my friends cow pasture, and I've heard one turkey hunting one morning.  They're beautiful cats.
High praise from someone who doesn't normally like pussy
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 16, 2015, 01:57:36 PM
High praise from someone who doesn't normally like pussy

Bazinga!!!
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: djsimp on September 16, 2015, 02:37:25 PM
Well, I call bs on the no panthers in Alabama statement. There are a few in the Palisades Park area in Blount County. An old friends dad had pics, from a hunting camera, of one in his backyard. Dude has several Alaskan Malamutes and one was tore up pretty bad after a loud as skirmish in the middle of the night. He put his hunting camera up in his backyard and got pics of the beast. Panther it was.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Catphish Tilly on September 16, 2015, 02:53:56 PM
I side with the hunters and the game wardens/game and fish personnel of the state who claim panther sightings, in spite of official statements that no such thing exists here.

I remember reading the Alabama Game and Fish mag a few deer seasons ago and seeing a cash prize offered for footage proving a panther in the state. I never followed up on the results.

Never seen one myself but know folks who have. Hell, you wouldn't expect black bears (ole miss fans excluded) nearby either but one was spotted in a Trussville subdivision only a few years ago.

(https://flavorwire.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/believe.jpg)
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 16, 2015, 02:57:17 PM
Not anything as sinister as a panther, but I had an early morning encounter with some type of fox several years ago.  Came out to get in my ride about 5:00 in the morning.  Dark.  Heard something in the woods and when I looked, this big ass fox comes running out and stops at the end of my driveway.  Wasn't a red fox.  Pretty common around there. This one looked gray and was twice the size of a red.  It was about 15-20 feet from me.  Looked right at me and let out a blood curdling scream.  WTF???  It screamed several more times and then ran across the street in the neighbor's yard and started screaming at me some more.  I walked towards it because you could tell it was scared and probably just trying to scare me off.  It took off after a few more screams.

Okay, I just got cussed out by a fox.  Cool story, bro. 
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 16, 2015, 02:59:48 PM
Not anything as sinister as a panther, but I had an early morning encounter with some type of fox several years ago.  Came out to get in my ride about 5:00 in the morning.  Dark.  Heard something in the woods and when I looked, this big ass fox comes running out and stops at the end of my driveway.  Wasn't a red fox.  Pretty common around there. This one looked gray and was twice the size of a red.  It was about 15-20 feet from me.  Looked right at me and let out a blood curdling scream.  WTF???  It screamed several more times and then ran across the street in the neighbor's yard and started screaming at me some more.  I walked towards it because you could tell it was scared and probably just trying to scare me off.  It took off after a few more screams.

Okay, I just got cussed out by a fox.  Cool story, bro.
I think you are describing a coyote based on the size and screaming part. Pretty sure he would've kicked your ass either way though.
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Post by: chinook on September 16, 2015, 03:00:00 PM
Not anything as sinister as a panther, but I had an early morning encounter with some type of fox several years ago.  Came out to get in my ride about 5:00 in the morning.  Dark.  Heard something in the woods and when I looked, this big ass fox comes running out and stops at the end of my driveway.  Wasn't a red fox.  Pretty common around there. This one looked gray and was twice the size of a red.  It was about 15-20 feet from me.  Looked right at me and let out a blood curdling scream.  WTF???  It screamed several more times and then ran across the street in the neighbor's yard and started screaming at me some more.  I walked towards it because you could tell it was scared and probably just trying to scare me off.  It took off after a few more screams.

Okay, I just got cussed out by a fox.  Cool story, bro.

Cool story, bro.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 16, 2015, 03:02:28 PM
Cool story, bro.

I know, right?
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 16, 2015, 03:03:49 PM
I think you are describing a coyote based on the size and screaming part. Pretty sure he would've kicked your ass either way though.

It was not a gawt damn kiyotee.

Here's what it sounded like, except magnified X10 because he was right in front of me.


https://youtu.be/LJ8BY521EoI 
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 16, 2015, 04:42:31 PM
Re: your story, I find it hard to believe that you actually walked toward the animal, regardless what it was. You are afraid of a cat and to swim in Lake Eufaula. You're not exactly Bear Grylls.

In this video, IMO, this  sounds like hyenas or a pack of monkees in your woods.

So, cool story, Bro. But definitely a story regarding you walking toward the animal. Now, jumping up on the hood of the car and squealing, yes. I can definitely see that happening with you.
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Post by: AUJarhead on September 16, 2015, 04:43:56 PM
Now, jumping up on the hood of the car and squealing, yes. I can definitely see that happening with you.

We don't call him the nutless wonder for nothing.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 16, 2015, 04:50:07 PM
Re: your story, I find it hard to believe that you actually walked toward the animal, regardless what it was. You are afraid of a cat and to swim in Lake Eufaula. You're not exactly Bear Grylls.

In this video, IMO, this  sounds like hyenas or a pack of monkees in your woods.

So, cool story, Bro. But definitely a story regarding you walking toward the animal. Now, jumping up on the hood of the car and squealing, yes. I can definitely see that happening with you.

Just because you don't have any cool stories like me, bro...

And most of mine are partially true.
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Post by: Godfather on September 16, 2015, 05:05:51 PM
Not anything as sinister as a panther, but I had an early morning encounter with some type of fox several years ago.  Came out to get in my ride about 5:00 in the morning.  Dark.  Heard something in the woods and when I looked, this big ass fox comes running out and stops at the end of my driveway.  Wasn't a red fox.  Pretty common around there. This one looked gray and was twice the size of a red.  It was about 15-20 feet from me.  Looked right at me and let out a blood curdling scream.  WTF???  It screamed several more times and then ran across the street in the neighbor's yard and started screaming at me some more.  I walked towards it because you could tell it was scared and probably just trying to scare me off.  It took off after a few more screams.

Okay, I just got cussed out by a fox.  Cool story, bro.


What does the fox say?
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 16, 2015, 05:22:30 PM

What does the fox say?

Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on September 16, 2015, 06:01:11 PM
I have seen a black panther hunting in Union Springs. Big freaking cat. No one believes me either but it was light outside and 30 yards from me. Scared the shit out of me.
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Post by: bgreene on September 16, 2015, 07:03:10 PM
I bet it was a chupacabra
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Post by: DnATL on September 16, 2015, 07:32:23 PM
Never seen one myself but know folks who have. Hell, you wouldn't expect black bears (ole miss fans excluded) nearby either but one was spotted in a Trussville subdivision only a few years ago.
Probably moving in from Roebuck/Huffman...
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 16, 2015, 09:24:51 PM
We call them "suped up wildcats" in St Clair county. They have big ol' tushes sticking out of their mouth and great big claws on the end of their feet.
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Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 17, 2015, 07:54:10 AM
I have seen a black panther hunting in Union Springs. Big freaking cat. No one believes me either but it was light outside and 30 yards from me. Scared the shit out of me.
You do realize that this thread isn't about militant black men, right?
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Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 17, 2015, 11:13:47 AM
We call them "suped up wildcats" in St Clair county. They have big ol' tushes sticking out of their mouth and great big claws on the end of their feet.
My cousin John Eubanks fought one of these up in a tree while coon hunting one time. We all hollered up at him, "Knock 'em out John!"
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 17, 2015, 11:24:27 AM
Just shoot up here amongst us.  One of us has got to have some relief.
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Post by: smooth_operator on September 17, 2015, 02:06:28 PM
I side with the hunters and the game wardens/game and fish personnel of the state who claim panther sightings, in spite of official statements that no such thing exists here.

I remember reading the Alabama Game and Fish mag a few deer seasons ago and seeing a cash prize offered for footage proving a panther in the state. I never followed up on the results.

Never seen one myself but know folks who have. Hell, you wouldn't expect black bears (ole miss fans excluded) nearby either but one was spotted in a Trussville subdivision only a few years ago.

(https://flavorwire.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/believe.jpg)

The results were despite approximately 7 game cameras per acre on Alabama hunting land not a single person had a confirmed pic and not a single person could show authorities a single bit of physical evidence (hair, tracks, scat, ect) they exist.

With that said it doesn't really surprise me that one wanders through from time to time. It also doesn't surprise me that everyone knows someone with a sighting story. I'm jealous of those stories, a lifetime in the woods and the  I've never seen anything rare or unexplained except my buddy carter somehow kills deer despite being the laziest idiot I know.   
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Post by: Snaggletiger on September 17, 2015, 02:46:39 PM
Speaking of game cameras, I've got a couple of buddies with some land up around Lake Alligator...err, Eufaula.  They have truly killed some monster bucks the last couple of years.  I was watching the slide show from their cameras and did I see countless monster bucks?  Yep.  Did I see a black panther?  Nope  Did I see hundreds of pig sooeys?  Cripes yes. They told me their land is overrun with these vile creatures.  Is this a southern Alabama thing or do you hunters nawth of here have the same problem?
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Post by: chinook on September 17, 2015, 02:51:17 PM
Speaking of game cameras, I've got a couple of buddies with some land up around Lake Alligator...err, Eufaula.  They have truly killed some monster bucks the last couple of years.  I was watching the slide show from their cameras and did I see countless monster bucks?  Yep.  Did I see a black panther?  Nope  Did I see hundreds of pig sooeys?  Cripes yes. They told me their land is overrun with these vile creatures.  Is this a southern Alabama thing or do you hunters nawth of here have the same problem?

 :by:
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 17, 2015, 02:53:41 PM
:by:

Damn it.  That's EXACTLY what I saw.  Hundreds of butter-tooth yetis.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: smooth_operator on September 17, 2015, 03:09:59 PM
Speaking of game cameras, I've got a couple of buddies with some land up around Lake Alligator...err, Eufaula.  They have truly killed some monster bucks the last couple of years.  I was watching the slide show from their cameras and did I see countless monster bucks?  Yep.  Did I see a black panther?  Nope  Did I see hundreds of pig sooeys?  Cripes yes. They told me their land is overrun with these vile creatures.  Is this a southern Alabama thing or do you hunters nawth of here have the same problem?

Wild pigs are pretty common, I know they have patches of them up north but they're growing more and more ubiquitous in the south.

FYI the medium to small sized ones are absolutely delicious. Any of your buddies want to bring in some extra help killin' them in the off season I'd be glad to help out.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 17, 2015, 03:22:38 PM
Wild pigs are pretty common, I know they have patches of them up north but they're growing more and more ubiquitous in the south.

FYI the medium to small sized ones are absolutely delicious. Any of your buddies want to bring in some extra help killin' them in the off season I'd be glad to help out.

Ubiquitous would kill in Scrabble.  Many, many moons ago I used to be heavy into hunting. In the woods all the time and like the lack of panther sightings, I never once saw a wild piggy. In this case, their land is rife with hogs and the herd is too multifarious for adequate thinning.   
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Post by: Catphish Tilly on September 17, 2015, 03:31:48 PM
They've progressively expanded through parts of the state they never previously resided. I've hunted the same land in Pickens County my whole life. My dad before that. I hunt most weekends during the season and, until about five-six years ago, I'd never seen a wild pig. Now, it's more common I do than don't. They are an invasive nuisance.

The good news is that the right ones make great sausage... and they all make great target practice. The bad is that where there are two, there will VERY quickly be twenty.
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Post by: smooth_operator on September 17, 2015, 03:39:56 PM
Ubiquitous would kill in Scrabble.  Many, many moons ago I used to be heavy into hunting. In the woods all the time and like the lack of panther sightings, I never once saw a wild piggy. In this case, their land is rife with hogs and the herd is too multifarious for adequate thinning.

Grab the ol' rifle and walk the property with the wind in your face late evenings or early mornings. Don't worry about camo. You'll hear 'em before you see 'em. Bring plenty of ammo.

Er.. Something something big words.

I know how to get into contact with some guys that do semi-professional feral pig trapping, from what I hear if you're really looking to make a dent in the population they're the way to go.
Title: Re: They gonna call me a liar...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 17, 2015, 04:33:27 PM
Grab the ol' rifle and walk the property with the wind in your face late evenings or early mornings. Don't worry about camo. You'll hear 'em before you see 'em. Bring plenty of ammo.

Er.. Something something big words.

I know how to get into contact with some guys that do semi-professional feral pig trapping, from what I hear if you're really looking to make a dent in the population they're the way to go.

I'll pass along the info to my buddies.

Speaking of cool stories and piggies, bro....a couple of years ago, a friend was out hunting in the woods behind his house.  One of these bad boys surprised him and started chasing him.  He panicked and turned while he was running and fired off a few shots.  Didn't hit it but luckily scared it off.  He got back to the house and had two bullet holes in the wall of his garage.  Damn wild pig will make you shoot your family.
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Post by: smooth_operator on September 17, 2015, 04:45:21 PM
I'll pass along the info to my buddies.

Speaking of cool stories and piggies, bro....a couple of years ago, a friend was out hunting in the woods behind his house.  One of these bad boys surprised him and started chasing him.  He panicked and turned while he was running and fired off a few shots.  Didn't hit it but luckily scared it off.  He got back to the house and had two bullet holes in the wall of his garage.  Damn wild pig will make you shoot your family.

They ain't the only thing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/14/bullet-intended-for-pesky-armadillo-ends-up-injuring-shooters-mother-in-law/
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Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 17, 2015, 05:14:22 PM
They ain't the only thing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/14/bullet-intended-for-pesky-armadillo-ends-up-injuring-shooters-mother-in-law/
And a lot of you guys are walking around everyday in this meth infested society with these little pea shooters that won't pierce an armadillo shell.

But I would bet that this guy had to be a long way from the armadillo for this to happen.
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Post by: djsimp on September 18, 2015, 11:27:13 AM
Speaking of game cameras, I've got a couple of buddies with some land up around Lake Alligator...err, Eufaula.  They have truly killed some monster bucks the last couple of years.  I was watching the slide show from their cameras and did I see countless monster bucks?  Yep.  Did I see a black panther?  Nope  Did I see hundreds of pig sooeys?  Cripes yes. They told me their land is overrun with these vile creatures.  Is this a southern Alabama thing or do you hunters nawth of here have the same problem?

Well, there is a reason why people from all over the world go there to hunt.....literally.