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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Godfather on December 04, 2014, 11:09:33 AM
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McElwain is new head coach at UF.
Excuse me while I try not to laugh.
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Not a bad hire. Probably not the championship caliber coach they'll want.
If I had to make a prediction, I'd say Florida becomes the new Georgia. A good 8-9 win season each year with the occasional SEC East championship when other teams suck ass.
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Not a bad hire. Probably not the championship caliber coach they'll want.
Agree, it actually isn't. Still though, it's UF, thats the type of hire I expect from Ole Miss.
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Gator relative asked me what I knew about McElwain yesterday and I couldn't say much. Since Saban doesn't let them talk to the media, you don't know much about bammer assistants, even living in Alabama.
It doesn't wow me but I think it's prob a solid hire. He has done a good job at col state.
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If I was a UF fan, this hire would not make my dick hard.
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Well FRICK!!!!
Not because I think this is a homerun hire or Go Gatah will suddenly be a MNC contender. I do agree it's a decent hire, though. It's just that no matter who the gusty Gatah are playing, we'll have to hear 50 times a game how he is a Lord Saybinz disciple. Never played or coached anywhere else. He learned everything he knows from LS.
Wait, that may be a new drinking game.
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Wait, that may be a new drinking game.
Not one I care to play. I don't feel like killing myself with alcohol poisoning.
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Agree, it actually isn't. Still though, it's UF, thats the type of hire I expect from Ole Miss.
Much the same was said when they hired Meyer. Not a homerun hire....until a couple of years later.
I think McElwain is a good coach and this is an underrated hire. What he has done at CSU is pretty impressive. Solid but not a flashy hire.
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Much the same was said when they hired Meyer. Not a homerun hire....until a couple of years later.
I think McElwain is a good coach and this is an underrated hire. What he has done at CSU is pretty impressive. Solid but not a flashy hire.
Disagree Meyer had been to multiple programs and had turned all of them around quickly. He was a big get for them, he was a hot commodity at the time.
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Disagree Meyer had been to multiple programs and had turned all of them around quickly. He was a big get for them, he was a hot commodity at the time.
But you do agree on the part that you would have WT if you were gay, right?
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Again, probably will turn out to be a good hire but totally not what the "experts" were predicting. All you heard was they wanted a wide open offense and a great offensive minded coach. Now granted, he was the OC at Bama and they actually did put up some good numbers under McElwain. But the style was more grind it out, play action and win with D.
That being said, was that more a function of LS dictating that as the way he wanted to play? Anyone know what kind of O he ran at CSU?
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But you do agree on the part that you would have WT if you were gay, right?
I'd lean towards AWK, he's soft.
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Again, probably will turn out to be a good hire but totally not what the "experts" were predicting. All you heard was they wanted a wide open offense and a great offensive minded coach. Now granted, he was the OC at Bama and they actually did put up some good numbers under McElwain. But the style was more grind it out, play action and win with D.
That being said, was that more a function of LS dictating that as the way he wanted to play? Anyone know what kind of O he ran at CSU?
Stoops was supposed to be the splash when they hired Urban. I almost remember there being slight surprise amongst the gator nation when that happened, although like GF said, it was also a good hire in general anyway. So maybe this will turn out the same way for them. Foley has been known for hiring out of left field.
Seeing as how I hate the Mutts in the east, I am rooting for both McElwain and Jones to be kicking UGA's ass on a regular basis.
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Again, probably will turn out to be a good hire but totally not what the "experts" were predicting. All you heard was they wanted a wide open offense and a great offensive minded coach. Now granted, he was the OC at Bama and they actually did put up some good numbers under McElwain. But the style was more grind it out, play action and win with D.
That being said, was that more a function of LS dictating that as the way he wanted to play? Anyone know what kind of O he ran at CSU?
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Seeing as how I hate the Mutts in the east, I am rooting for both McElwain and Jones to be kicking UGA's ass on a regular basis.
Not me. His lineage is enough for me to actively hope for epic failure on a grand scale. 0-12 implosion.
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Not me. His lineage is enough for me to actively hope for epic failure on a grand scale. 0-12 implosion.
Ehhh, he used Sabanz as a stepping stone. Wasnt there very long. And was somebody before and after Sabaynz. Of course the media will say the Saban stuff often, but I do think McElwain is solid. I just hate UGA. Things are bad for them when Tenn and UF are better.
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Not me. His lineage is enough for me to actively hope for epic failure on a grand scale. 0-12 implosion.
Fuck'em all.
I root for Auburn, I couldn't give a crap about anyone else. Unless they play bama.
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FAIL!FAIL!FAIL!FAIL!FAIL!FAIL!FAIL!FAIL!FAIL!FAIL!
They could have had Bill Clark!
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This just in....
Nebraska hires Oregon State Mike Riley as coach
Nebraska has hired Mike Riley as their new head coach, the team announced Thursday.
"It is truly an honor to join the University of Nebraska family," Riley said in a statement. "Though we love Corvallis and Oregon State, this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to coach at one of the nation's most storied football programs and I can't wait to get started. My sincere thanks to Chancellor Perlman and [athletic director] Shawn Eichorst for their confidence in me and I look forward to becoming a part of the Nebraska family and building upon the great history and tradition."
Riley has spent 14 seasons (over two tenures) as Oregon State's coach, and also coached the San Diego Chargers and the CFL's Winnipeg Blue Bombers.
Oregon State collected 93 wins under Riley and had a 6-2 record in the postseason.
Nebraska will introduce Riley in a Friday news conference.
Riley replaces Bo Pelini, who was fired Sunday after finishing the season 9-3.
Ha ha Gators out headlined.
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BTW I think Nebraska just got trolled. How is that not a monumental fail?
Go from Pelini who always won 9 games or more to Riley? :blink:
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BTW I think Nebraska just got trolled. How is that not a monumental fail?
Go from Pelini who always won 9 games or more to Riley? :blink:
I don't know. When Riley has had the athletes, he's put together some pretty dang good teams. As Nebraska, he will get better athletes.
So I cannot deem it a fail just yet.
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BTW I think Nebraska just got trolled. How is that not a monumental fail?
Go from Pelini who always won 9 games or more to Riley? :blink:
Oh c'mon. It's not like they hired a coach who was 5-19 in his last two years.
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I don't know. When Riley has had the athletes, he's put together some pretty dang good teams. As Nebraska, he will get better athletes.
So I cannot deem it a fail just yet.
Over Peilini it is, Riley's best season at OSU was 10-4. Pelini never lost more than 4 in his tenure at Nebraska.
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Over Peilini it is, Riley's best season at OSU was 10-4. Pelini never lost more than 4 in his tenure at Nebraska.
And Riley while respectable had every opportunity to turn OSU into a contender in the Pac 12. Never did.
In fact, I think his only real big time win was the 2006 win over USC. He's beaten Notre Dame in 2004 in the Insight.com bowl and Missouri in the Sun Bowl. He did beat Boise State in 2005.
He hasn't beaten Oregon since 2007. I think he's only beaten them twice.
I'm surprised he left. He had plenty of opportunities to leave in the past but always seemed happy in Corvalis.
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Over Peilini it is, Riley's best season at OSU was 10-4. Pelini never lost more than 4 in his tenure at Nebraska.
But Pelini always had better players. And did not succeed.
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But you do agree on the part that you would have WT if you were gay, right?
I'd lean towards AWK, he's soft.
big ole cuddly bear - and comes with VV if you're looking for something in more of a Kenny Irons carry-on size
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But Pelini always had better players. And did not succeed.
Not a Peilieieioni fan but when 9 win avg isn't successful, expectations may be a little over the top.
I know they have a strong tradition but that seems a little like the famous Bill Curry firing--which eventually worked out.
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Not a Peilieieioni fan but when 9 win avg isn't successful, expectations may be a little over the top.
I know they have a strong tradition but that seems a little like the famous Bill Curry firing--which eventually worked out.
Nebraska has a habit of firing coaches who average 9-10 wins since Osbourne.
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Not me. His lineage is enough for me to actively hope for epic failure on a grand scale. 0-12 implosion.
So did you also think Pat Dye was a bad hire because of his Bama lineage?
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Oh c'mon. It's not like they hired a coach who was 5-19 in his last two years.
True they hired one that went 12-13 vs the one they had that went 18-7
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So did you also think Pat Dye was a bad hire because of his Bama lineage?
Nah it was his Georgia lineage.
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So did you also think Pat Dye was a bad hire because of his Bama lineage?
Doesn't Muschamp have Saban lineage?
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Doesn't Muschamp have Saban lineage?
Doesn't every corch? :bamahomer:
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Doesn't Muschamp have Saban lineage?
He does.
But things are different now.
When Muschamp left Saban, he was just another coach on Saban's tree.
Now the coaches that coach under Saban and leave are extensions of his fingers.
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So did you also think Pat Dye was a bad hire because of his Bama lineage?
Nope. But Dye was a Georgia man first. And when he came to Auburn he became an Auburn man for life.
McElroywaine is, to me, like Dumbo Swinney. He's a fucking bammer first, last and always no matter where he goes. He could be at Florida for 40 years and he'd still be a bama fuck at heart. Same with rawwl taahhhd Dumbo. I hate that sonofabitch. Kirby Smart is another. A Bama fucking lifer. Boo on his ass.
I don't feel that way about Muschamp. He's not truly a Saban disciple nor is he a Bama fuck at heart. He's a Georgia guy and I can handle that.
Like Tracy Rocker. He may coach at Georgia or where ever, but he's still an Auburn man. Vince Dooley even is to a degree.
I'm sick of this whole effort to tie every coach in the world to Saban like they used to do with Bryant. Coaching tree my ass.
You want a coaching tree? Look at Tommy Tuberville.
Muschamp
Rhoads
Petrino
Chizik
Mazzone - Still an OC
Borges - Recently at Michigan
Art Kaufman - Still a DC
Neal Brown - HC at Troy
Eddie Gran - Current OC with Tuberville
His lineage is more consistently successful than Saban's bag of shit.
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Nope. But Dye was a Georgia man first. And when he came to Auburn he became an Auburn man for life.
McElroywaine is, to me, like Dumbo Swinney. He's a fucking bammer first, last and always no matter where he goes. He could be at Florida for 40 years and he'd still be a bama fuck at heart. Same with rawwl taahhhd Dumbo. I hate that sonofabitch. Kirby Smart is another. A Bama fucking lifer. Boo on his ass.
I don't feel that way about Muschamp. He's not truly a Saban disciple nor is he a Bama fuck at heart. He's a Georgia guy and I can handle that.
Like Tracy Rocker. He may coach at Georgia or where ever, but he's still an Auburn man. Vince Dooley even is to a degree.
I'm sick of this whole effort to tie every coach in the world to Saban like they used to do with Bryant. Coaching tree my ass.
You want a coaching tree? Look at Tommy Tuberville.
Muschamp
Rhoads
Petrino
Chizik
Mazzone - Still an OC
Borges - Recently at Michigan
Art Kaufman - Still a DC
Neal Brown - HC at Troy
Eddie Gran - Current OC with Tuberville
His lineage is more consistently successful than Saban's bag of shit.
Kind of brings the averae down.
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Back to the news of the day.
The Florida hire is underwhelming to say the least. He's not a well known name, he hasn't really 'broken through' like Urban Meyer did and he's not the horse anybody was really chasing.
Why this guy? Because he served under Saban who's a clone of Belichick who was mentored by Bill Parcells who cut his teeth under the hand of Ray Perkins who was a favorite son of the sainted Bear.
It's like Five Fucking Degrees of Bahr Bryunt up in here. I mean seriously, you knew that's what this whole thing was with Saban, right? You can tie him directly back to the dead drunk.
Will McElroywayne be a good coach for UF? I don't think anybody has a clue. He's done okay against crap competition in an inferior league. If Auburn had hired him I would be apathetic at best.
The Nebraska hire is similarly yawn-inducing.
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McElroywaine is, to me, like Dumbo Swinney. He's a fucking bammer first, last and always no matter where he goes.
His first coaching job Louisville and then Michigan State. He didn't catch up with Saban until 2008 after he had been with the Oakland Raiders and then back to college of Fresno State.
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Kind of brings the averae down.
Really?
Chizik was DC for an unbeaten Auburn team in 2004 and was Assistant Coach of the Year
Chizik went to Texas where he led the defense for a national championship team
Chizik came to Auburn in 2009 and hired a quality staff that helped immediately turn around a 5-7 program. In 2010 he was the constant that allowed Auburn to weather a shitstorm of negativity surrounding Cam Newton and with help from the hires he made, delivered us the national championship. He won four national coach of the year awards. (As has every single Auburn head coach since Bryant died).
I, for one, had come to believe I was going to live my entire life without seeing Auburn legitimately hoist the championship belt. Gene Chizik put the pieces in place that gave me something I'd dreamed about since I first heard Gusty Yearout and Gary Sanders call an Auburn game on the radio when I was a small child. That guy realized all the dreams I had when I was five years old and put on my homemade plastic Auburn helmet to play in the back yard.
Given time to get over the horror of 2012, you're not going to find me blasting Chizik.
I hate that he lost control of the program. I think it was his own hubris that brought him back to earth. But he turned Gus Malzahn into an Auburn man. He gave us Cam. He gave us Kodi Burns. He gave us Nick Fairley. He recruited Chris Davis, Reese Dismukes, Quan Bray, Sammie Coates, Kris Frost, Tre Mason, Gabe Wright, Therezie, Uzomah, Greg Robinson, Whitehead, Ricardo Louis and Cody Parkey among others.
( One thing I noticed is how few of the 2012 recruits are making an impact as compared to 2011. 2011 was a great year. )
Yeah, 2012 was an abortion. I get that. But I'd put Chizik's resume up against every single one of Saban's allegedly fantastic protoges and Chizik wins that argument every single time.
So yeah. He brings the average up.
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His first coaching job Louisville and then Michigan State. He didn't catch up with Saban until 2008 after he had been with the Oakland Raiders and then back to college of Fresno State.
Not going to find me giving a fuck about this. He has the crimson taint.
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Turns out ol' Chiz got a little cattle in him after all.
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Really?
Chizik was DC for an unbeaten Auburn team in 2004 and was Assistant Coach of the Year
Chizik went to Texas where he led the defense for a national championship team
Chizik came to Auburn in 2009 and 1.hired a quality staff that helped immediately turn around a 5-7 program. In 2010 he was the constant that allowed Auburn to weather a shitstorm of negativity surrounding Cam Newton and with help from the hires he made, delivered us the national championship. He won four national coach of the year awards. (As has every single Auburn head coach since Bryant died).
I, for one, had come to believe I was going to live my entire life without seeing Auburn legitimately hoist the championship belt. Gene Chizik put the pieces in place that gave me something I'd dreamed about since I first heard Gusty Yearout and Gary Sanders call an Auburn game on the radio when I was a small child. That guy realized all the dreams I had when I was five years old and put on my homemade plastic Auburn helmet to play in the back yard.
Given time to get over the horror of 2012, you're not going to find me blasting Chizik.
I hate that he lost control of the program. I think it was his own hubris that brought him back to earth. But he turned Gus Malzahn into an Auburn man. 2.He gave us Cam. He gave us Kodi Burns. He gave us Nick Fairley. He recruited Chris Davis, Reese Dismukes, Quan Bray, Sammie Coates, Kris Frost, Tre Mason, Gabe Wright, Therezie, Uzomah, Greg Robinson, Whitehead, Ricardo Louis and Cody Parkey among others.
( One thing I noticed is how few of the 2012 recruits are making an impact as compared to 2011. 2011 was a great year. )
Yeah, 2012 was an abortion. I get that. But I'd put Chizik's resume up against every single one of Saban's allegedly fantastic protoges and Chizik wins that argument every single time.
So yeah. He brings the average up.
1. This he did, because he had too, He is not the kind of coach that pull teams up.
2. No he didn't-he didn't want cam, had to be talked into getting him.
GC is easy to beat up on. When put in the right situation he can produce, but when forced to lead he fails. As great as 2010 was, 2012 reaffirmed to the unwashed masses that 2010 was just a fluke and that I put squarely on his shoulders.
GC is not as bad as I try to say, nor is he a good as you claim.
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He gave us Kodi Burns.
Tuberville recruited Kodi. That 2007 Peach Bowl featured the debut of Franklin's offense, and Kodi scored the game winning touchdown.
And that game continued the Auburn Curse of the Peach Bowl. Since Bowden, every time we've won that bowl, our coach has been fired the following year (and it was also the last Bowl that Pat Dye coached - and we won that one too).
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Just so we're clear, Muschamp is a Tuberville protege'.
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Just so we're clear, Muschamp is a Tuberville protege'.
You can bet your ass if he went 10-2 every year, he'd be a Saban disciple.
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Tuberville recruited Kodi. That 2007 Peach Bowl featured the debut of Franklin's offense, and Kodi scored the game winning touchdown.
And that game continued the Auburn Curse of the Peach Bowl. Since Bowden, every time we've won that bowl, our coach has been fired the following year (and it was also the last Bowl that Pat Dye coached - and we won that one too).
I know he did. But Chizik is the one who got Kodi to buy into a position change and to stick with us. He's the one who turned Kodi into an Auburn man. Well, him and Gus.
Same with Lutz. Recruited by Tuberville. One of the first guys Chizik went to see and he decided to stick with us. He could have gone, but didn't. Same with Nosa. Same with Emory Blake.
Yeah maybe Chizik got the big head. Yeah maybe he was better as a DC who stayed out of the way of the offense. Maybe he didn't get the big picture when it came to running a program. But he was a pretty damn good defensive coach for us in 2004. And he did a pretty damn good job of keeping things together in 2010 when it could very easily have run off the rails.
I've always been one of his most vocal critics. I didn't like the hire, I worried that the majesty of 2010 was less his doing and more the staff he put into place. I was unhappy with his self-loving book in which he seemed to suck up way more credit than he deserved. And I was distressed by the constant rumors that he couldn't leave his staff alone and let them do their jobs, he wanted to really be the man.
It's a hard thing not to meddle. I understand that. I've also learned as a boss that I have to let people do what they're supposed to do, and if they don't find somebody else who will. I can't be standing over them telling them how I want them to do the job I hired them to do or usurping the authority I give them. I don't think he fully grasped that.
But all that aside? Who among Saban's overrated "coaching tree" has done more in his career than Chiz?
Chizik or Muschamp? Two national titles, two SEC titles for Chizik. Muschamp?
Chizik or Derek Dooley? Hahaha.
Chizik or McElroywaine? HAHAHAhahahaha. Not close.
Chizk or Dimbulb Fisher? This one is close. Do you really count Fishfuck as part of Saban's lineage? He spent twice as much time working with Terry Bowden than he did Saban. Even if you give Saban Fisher, the twat coaches in the pussified ACC. He's a piece of dogshit. If I had to choose one or the other today I'd take Chizik again. I don't want anybody of Fisher's suspect integrity around the Auburn program.
Chizik or Mark D'Antonio? Chizik has a stronger resume, but D'Antonio isn't chopped liver. The effort by those with Saban's cock lodged in their throat to count the Michigan State head coach as one of Saban's protoges is laughable. D'Antonio worked for Jim Tressel for five years. He only worked for Saban for three. Most telling? When Saban asked him to come to LSU, D'Antonio told the midget to go fuck himself.
Chizik or Shurmer? Who the fuck is Pat Shurmur? He spent two seasons as an assistant with Saban 20 years ago. The Saban lovers are going to claim that mediocre fuck? Fine. Chizik runs circles around him.
Chizik or Josh McDaniels? The Denver Broncos flop who didn't make it through two seasons was a graduate assistant on Saban's staff when he was 19. So, yeah. The Saban worshippers claimed him when he was HC at Denver, but pretend they don't know him now.
To sum it up? Chizik, for all his flaws, beats the bleeding blue fuck out of any coach spawned by that motherfucker Saban.
He brings the average up. End of story.
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I know he did. But Chizik is the one who got Kodi to buy into a position change and to stick with us. He's the one who turned Kodi into an Auburn man. Well, him and Gus.
Same with Lutz. Recruited by Tuberville. One of the first guys Chizik went to see and he decided to stick with us. He could have gone, but didn't. Same with Nosa. Same with Emory Blake.
Yeah maybe Chizik got the big head. Yeah maybe he was better as a DC who stayed out of the way of the offense. Maybe he didn't get the big picture when it came to running a program. But he was a pretty damn good defensive coach for us in 2004. And he did a pretty damn good job of keeping things together in 2010 when it could very easily have run off the rails.
I've always been one of his most vocal critics. I didn't like the hire, I worried that the majesty of 2010 was less his doing and more the staff he put into place. I was unhappy with his self-loving book in which he seemed to suck up way more credit than he deserved. And I was distressed by the constant rumors that he couldn't leave his staff alone and let them do their jobs, he wanted to really be the man.
It's a hard thing not to meddle. I understand that. I've also learned as a boss that I have to let people do what they're supposed to do, and if they don't find somebody else who will. I can't be standing over them telling them how I want them to do the job I hired them to do or usurping the authority I give them. I don't think he fully grasped that.
But all that aside? Who among Saban's overrated "coaching tree" has done more in his career than Chiz?
Chizik or Muschamp? Two national titles, two SEC titles for Chizik. Muschamp?
Chizik or Derek Dooley? Hahaha.
Chizik or McElroywaine? HAHAHAhahahaha. Not close.
Chizk or Dimbulb Fisher? This one is close. Do you really count Fishfuck as part of Saban's lineage? He spent twice as much time working with Terry Bowden than he did Saban. Even if you give Saban Fisher, the twat coaches in the pussified ACC. He's a piece of dogshit. If I had to choose one or the other today I'd take Chizik again. I don't want anybody of Fisher's suspect integrity around the Auburn program.
Chizik or Mark D'Antonio? Chizik has a stronger resume, but D'Antonio isn't chopped liver. The effort by those with Saban's cock lodged in their throat to count the Michigan State head coach as one of Saban's protoges is laughable. D'Antonio worked for Jim Tressel for five years. He only worked for Saban for three. Most telling? When Saban asked him to come to LSU, D'Antonio told the midget to go fuck himself.
Chizik or Shurmer? Who the fuck is Pat Shurmur? He spent two seasons as an assistant with Saban 20 years ago. The Saban lovers are going to claim that mediocre fuck? Fine. Chizik runs circles around him.
Chizik or Josh McDaniels? The Denver Broncos flop who didn't make it through two seasons was a graduate assistant on Saban's staff when he was 19. So, yeah. The Saban worshippers claimed him when he was HC at Denver, but pretend they don't know him now.
To sum it up? Chizik, for all his flaws, beats the bleeding blue fuck out of any coach spawned by that motherfucker Saban.
He brings the average up. End of story.
While I agree with just about all of this, it seems that you're just taking your usual contrarian stance. When people were jazzed about Chiz, you hated everything about the situation. Now that he's being castigated, you're going to white knight for him.
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While I agree with just about all of this, it seems that you're just taking your usual contrarian stance. When people were jazzed about Chiz, you hated everything about the situation. Now that he's being castigated, you're going to white knight for him.
It's always a race thing with you people
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While I agree with just about all of this, it seems that you're just taking your usual contrarian stance. When people were jazzed about Chiz, you hated everything about the situation. Now that he's being castigated, you're going to white knight for him.
Klassic Kaos
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I don't think anybody has a clue. He's done okay against crap competition in an inferior league.
True but he also is at a crap school and inherited a crap team. Its hard to ignore taking a 3-9 team to possibly 11 wins (if they win a bowl) in 3 years. I think hes a decent coach and solid, but nothing off the charts.
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Just so we're clear, Muschamp is a Tuberville protege'.
So McElwain is an Art Shell disciple? I think I am finally getting this logic.
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While I agree with just about all of this, it seems that you're just taking your usual contrarian stance. When people were jazzed about Chiz, you hated everything about the situation. Now that he's being castigated, you're going to white knight for him.
Think what you will. I clearly stated above that I was a vocal and unrepentant critic. He had to go but even so, we all have always agreed that we appreciate what he did at auburn.
My stance is not that he's the greatest thing since wal mart but that his resume is greater than anything that's sprouted from the saban tree.
If you really look closely you see it's more of a defense of Tuberville's legacy than Chizik's. And that's not contrarian at all. It's consistent.
The Tuberville tree is more fruitful than Saban's. For that matter so is the baby Bowden tree. Chizik -- as bad as he ended up being -- proves that.
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Klassic Kaos
The only thing missing in this post is the third k. Maybe klassic kombative Kaos?
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Think what you will. I clearly stated above that I was a vocal and unrepentant critic. He had to go but even so, we all have always agreed that we appreciate what he did at auburn.
My stance is not that he's the greatest thing since wal mart but that his resume is greater than anything that's sprouted from the saban tree.
If you really look closely you see it's more of a defense of Tuberville's legacy than Chizik's. And that's not contrarian at all. It's consistent.
The Tuberville tree is more fruitful than Saban's. For that matter so is the baby Bowden tree. Chizik -- as bad as he ended up being -- proves that.
People can honk Saban or Bear all they want, but Bill Walsh has THE Tree. All Time. And its not even close.
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Think what you will. I clearly stated above that I was a vocal and unrepentant critic. He had to go but even so, we all have always agreed that we appreciate what he did at auburn.
My stance is not that he's the greatest thing since wal mart but that his resume is greater than anything that's sprouted from the saban tree.
If you really look closely you see it's more of a defense of Tuberville's legacy than Chizik's. And that's not contrarian at all. It's consistent.
The Tuberville tree is more fruitful than Saban's. For that matter so is the baby Bowden tree. Chizik -- as bad as he ended up being -- proves that.
If we are all being honest here, is it really the $aban tree? I contend it is the Belichick tree.
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If we are all being honest here, is it really the $aban tree? I contend it is the Belichick tree.
Who learned under Parcells who coached under Perkins who was Bahr's boy. Try to follow. You cannot deny the power of the TAGGHHDD!
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Who learned under Parcells who coached under Perkins who was Bahr's boy. Try to follow. You cannot deny the power of the TAGGHHDD!
Vince Lombardi is not amused.
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southcarolina.scout.com/story/1488773-done-deal-muschamp-coming-to-south-caorlina (http://southcarolina.scout.com/story/1488773-done-deal-muschamp-coming-to-south-caorlina)
Done Deal - Muschamp coming to South Carolina
fuck this motherfucker
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southcarolina.scout.com/story/1488773-done-deal-muschamp-coming-to-south-caorlina (http://southcarolina.scout.com/story/1488773-done-deal-muschamp-coming-to-south-caorlina)
Done Deal - Muschamp coming to South Carolina
fuck this motherfucker
If true I smell another head coach in waiting gimmic. :facepalm:
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I blame his "Bama taint" for all of this.
Time to get on the Bill Clark train.
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So you know...
The whole coaching tree thing originated out of the state of Ohio and started with Paul Brown.
McElwain was very good at Colorado State. Liken it to success at Arkansas State as has been mentioned. Not as good as Nussmeyer as a playcaller IMO but neither as good a coordinator as Kiffin at spreading the ball to playmakers. Remains to be seen if he can handle UF job. Finebaum hails the McElwain hire as the greatest since Saban at Alabama. God only knows what that means to the Bammer media when Kirby Smart takes a head coaching position.
It's going to be a hiring season like no other before with quite a trickle down effect until some NFL teams are eliminated from the playoffs which will ultimately have recruits bailing out of verbals so here's hoping we can get Muschamp for a couple of seasons if only to provide stability and keep us relevant until we can get a longterm DC we can live with.
BTW...Alabama State needs a head coach for football per Craigslist.
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southcarolina.scout.com/story/1488773-done-deal-muschamp-coming-to-south-caorlina (http://southcarolina.scout.com/story/1488773-done-deal-muschamp-coming-to-south-caorlina)
Done Deal - Muschamp coming to South Carolina
fuck this motherfucker
Holy Pelini
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If true I smell another head coach in waiting gimmic. :facepalm:
THIS^^
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It may be true, but nothing on their official site and I still don't see where Lorenzo Ward has been released.
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ESPN is not reporting this.
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Me thinks this is just a little Gamecock pride. :haha:
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I find it hilarious considering they haven't even fired their Defensive Coordinator.
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I blame his "Bama taint" for all of this.
Time to get on the Bill Clark train.
I have land to sell you in Florida great new community called the Everglades
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I find it hilarious considering they haven't even fired their Defensive Coordinator.
This all comes as surprise to Ward and his assistants because this the way Spurrier tells his boys that they are fired, like duh.
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Me thinks this is just a little Gamecock pride. :haha:
And what male doesn't have this?
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@Auburn247: Report on Muschamp to SC not accurate
http://t.co/y0mZI5ERvE (http://t.co/y0mZI5ERvE)
Although not a done deal still doesn't mean he isn't trying to play us and Aggy to parlay it into a hc gig.
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Jesus age christ, he is more popular as an unemployed coach than he ever was as a head coach?
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Bill Clark look so bad to any of you bitches now?
BTW, if this is true, it's laughable to me an they can gladly take his egotistical big hat little cattle ass to that dump of a city for 1.7 mil and a hciw. That's a losing proposition IMO.
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Jesus age christ, he is more popular as an unemployed coach than he ever was as a head coach?
No kidding. I don't get it.
He couldn't win at Florida. So a school like South Carolina is desperate to have him?
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And what male doesn't have this?
Those that have no game.
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Would rather get a former player and up and comer like Charles Kelly whose heart is in it from a winning program than to get in a bidding war for a mercenary whose agent is causing a stir only to settle for a seat in a booth.
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Josh Kendall from the newspaper in Columbia, S.C., just tweeted this:
Steve Spurrier: "No, I haven't hired Will. ... I haven't really talked to anybody about additions (to staff)."
From FootballScoop,
Will Muschamp: In response to a number of local reports that Will is close to signing an agreement at South Carolina, sources close to the situation tell us that is not accurate. We understand that Will is on vacation and won’t be making any decisions until he returns next week.
@ClowESPN 11m11 minutes ago
Auburn has best shot. Don't see A&M. RT @Mark_Schlabach Muschamp is out of the country and won't do anything until he gets back.
:rofl:
No one has a damn clue. It may be true he is going to USCe, but if he doesn't Fowles will explain this away as something fell apart at the last minute, he didn't agree to this or he wanted that. Pretty sure we won't know anything until next week.
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I have land to sell you in Florida great new community called the Everglades
Am I gonna have to slap a dick out of someone's mouth today?
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Am I gonna have to slap a dick out of someone's mouth today?
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My balls are intact?
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Some mofo gone get cut up in here.
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Some mofo gone get cut up in here.
I would say one mofo has already.
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I would say one mofo has already.
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