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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on November 30, 2014, 12:41:37 AM
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Auburn
- That was the worst Iron Bowl I've ever watched.
- But my rage has died and it died quickly. That Auburn team was pretty much the same Auburn team we've watched since week six. The Georgia game was an anomaly with Duke being out thus stifling our offense.
- 448 total yards against Miss State and 23 points. Gave up 469 yards and 38 points.
- 582 total yards against Texas A&M and 38 points. Gave up 453 yards and 41 points.
- 600 total yards against Alabama and 44 points. Gave up 539 yards and 55 points.
- Our trips to the red zone were redolent of the Miss State game. Something inflicted this team that made it hard to score after marching down the field. Whatever it was, I wish we would have figured it out before this game. I firmly believe the score at the half is 35-14 and if we could pick off Sims and score like we did to open the 2nd half, we go up 42-14 with a big ass Auburn party in an emptying Bryant Denny stadium.
- But we couldn't score. We dropped two easy touchdowns. We settled for field goals. Somehow, after amassing 400 yards against Nick fucking Saban in Tuscaloosa, Alabama was still 6 points from taking the lead.
- They were who we thought they were. Simms isn't a great quarterback. Cooper is good but can disappear for a while. Kiffin can score points, but we had him figured out. But our defense, oh our defense.
- I don't see how we can keep Johnson. I don't know if I was in the Fire Ellis! camp before, but I think I am now. It's simply absurd to think that our players are so stupid that they can't handle running his simplified defense. After two years, he should have players that are improving. Every top defensive coordinator there has ever been shows improvement as they coach their players. Even on bad teams. I mean, look at Florida. That's a shit football team but they can play defense for most of the game. I understand running into an offensive coordinator or two that are just so brilliant or so stocked with legendary players that you can't slow them down. But week 6, week 7, week 8, week 9 , week 10, and week 12, we've given up 450+ yards, 500+ yards in some, and 31+ points.
- I think we have the smartest offensive coach in college football, and he lost three games this year because the defense was so bad that it was impossible to score enough points to win.
- All in all though, I'm going to be sad to see some of these players go. Marshall was a rollercoaster ride. If Duke leaves, he's the best receiver I have personally ever seen at Auburn. If Sammie leaves, he's the fastest receiver I have personally ever seen at Auburn. Dismukes is a mean ass center. CAP is a really good running back. Great numbers. Not sure he's in the conversation with the legends though. Quan Bray seems to have been a constant for a decade now.
College Football
- I'm growing tired. I watch Auburn football to support and live with my alma mater. I cheer for my team to win and hate to lose and sometimes, I don't really care either way because I just enjoy being part of a culture that is Southern, educated, and fun.
- But I watch college football for drama. I want to see big games where I don't really know what's going to happen. I like the complex spiderweb that forms and breaks with each week as upsets happen and great teams are built. I like seeing top players perform well and hoist trophies and catch the NFL's eye. I like seeing entertaining coaches give great one liners in press conferences. I like wondering what all will happen in the end and how and where and who will be crowned the national champion.
- I know this is going to be a little brother, douchebaggy, and poor sportsman-type melt, but I'm ready to take a break from college football until Nick Saban leaves Alabama.
- I became a college football fan in 2003. I watched a few games prior to that, but it wasn't until I became a student that I fully understood what it meant to follow college football. From 2003 until 2007, I cheered and screamed and complained with everyone else about my team. I loved and hated Tuberville because I never knew what was going to happen. Each year, a new team would arise and win. In 2003, LSU made it through with one loss, went on to sneak into the BCSCG and beat the pants off of Oklahoma. I cheered for LSU because they were SEC and I was tired of hearing the media talk up Oklahoma and USC.
- In 2004, Auburn without expectations went undefeated. We were left out of the BCSCG. I did not like that. But it was dramatic. It was a fair discussion. Why should have USC and Oklahoma dropped after starting 1 and 2? There were debates. Good points from both sides.
- In 2005, we were treated with a real Game of the Century. Two great teams with superstar players competing for an actual trophy. Came down to the last minute with a heroic and forever-memorable touchdown run by Vince Young.
- In 2006, Florida snuck into the BCSCG and after more debates about how they didn't deserve to be there, they beat the pants off of Ohio State. Ohio State was a good team then. So was Michigan. So was USC.
- In 2007, it was LSU. In 2008, it was Florida, but someone was creeping up.
- In 2009, Bama luck started. (I started typing out how much has happened for Alabama - like all of it, but it was getting to be too much.)
- From 2009 until 2014, we've seen time after time Alabama have the ball bounce their way. Time after time, teams seem to have pinned Alabama down for defeat but there's always something that keeps them just enough in the game for them to win it in the end.
- And it's not just games, it's the whole shabang. There seems to always be something there to keep Bama in the hunt. 2011, 2012, and 2014 are all part of this. Is Alabama the absolute best team in the country? Maybe. But when most teams lose a game, they lose their footing for the NC. For Alabama, it's always been a speed bump.
- I'm not alleging cheating. I'm not saying anything funny's going on. It's just been how it is. 2011, Oklahoma State has an in-house tragedy and loses to Iowa State. In 2012, Alabama loses late (deathblow, right?) yet Kansas State and Oregon both lose the following week and Alabama's right back in it.
- In 2014, Alabama has the ball bounce their way numerous times again. And here we are again. For the fourth time in six years, Alabama will be in the college football playoff. For the fourth time in seven years, Alabama is in Atlanta.
- Now, Alabama being Auburn's biggest rival makes it suck worse. That's really the true melt here. But it's getting old.
- As I said earlier, I turn on college football for drama. Miss State was supposed to beat Ole Miss setting up a huge Iron Bowl, but Miss State lost putting Alabama in the SECCG anyway. I mean, that's how it happens nowadays, right? Alabama's in anyway.
- Even if they aren't in, anyway, they still are a cat's whisker away from being in...anyway. Took a Kick Six to keep them out of it last year. Were 7 points from being in it in 2010.
- Anyways, I'm venting. I'm tired of seeing Alabama win every year. It's killed the drama. Eleven times out of twelve, Alabama will win and even with the one loss they get, things will usually still bounce their way so that in the end, the one loss didn't matter at all. I mean, you know what's going to happen next Saturday. I'm not even going to watch it. Alabama is going to beat Missouri and go into the playoff as the #1 team.
- Every other team in the country even when putting together a "dynasty," experiences cyclical highs and lows of rebuilding. Alabama truly reloads. They truly have the best dynasty I've ever seen in college football, and it's boring.
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Auburn
- That was the worst Iron Bowl I've ever watched.
Be glad you didn't sit through Black Saturday in 2001.
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Be glad you didn't sit through Black Saturday in 2001.
I wasn't there but I would take an anal drubbing over what happened tonight any day. We had them blown out and just couldn't put them away .
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It's disappointing but I've seen worse. We led the number 1 team at half but couldn't hold on.
Gus will have us in the picture. I believe that.
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Yup. uat will beat the Tigers of Missouri like a drum, then they'll curb stomp TCU or whoever gets the #4 spot...heaven help FSU if they beat Oregon, Jameis Winston will be charged with rape and probably murder before that game anyway, so they'll get the shit beat outta them too.
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Don't know why we only get but one passable half of defense but the offensive output is almost always there...at least enough to where some decent tackling and cover skills would go a long way. But I saw many opportunities to put a shoulder to them last night where we just stood watching. And chasing a ball carrier or receiver is not defending, it's getting your ass beat. Still, it was a very entertaining game for more than a half before we crumbled.
It wasn't much consolation knowing that even had we beaten Alabama they would have still found themselves in the playoffs after beating Missouri in the SECCG.
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I was just glad to see the O rolling again. Although the D is an issue. The rest I think is fixable by Gus and much of it was. He pulled the team together for this one. We were competitive. But sorry, we need changes on the D. And pronto. Losing Mincy and a few others may end up being addition by subtraction. In skill level and off the field.
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Get a fresh manpon in, stat.
Worst IB ever? Get the fuck outta here with that crybaby, new-jack shit.
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Get a fresh manpon in, stat.
Worst IB ever? Get the fuck outta here with that crybaby, new-jack shit.
No not the worst, not by a longshot. Have seen maybe twenty worse where we were inept.
We were actually ept for more than a half last night. Surprisingly ept.
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Get a fresh manpon in, stat.
Worst IB ever? Get the fuck outta here with that crybaby, new-jack shit.
i explained why I thought it was the worst. My worst.
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Get a fresh manpon in, stat.
Worst IB ever? Get the fuck outta here with that crybaby, new-jack shit.
I got some submissions:
1971 - Both unbeaten, Sullivan Heisman. Got flat out trucked. It hurt.
1974 - BS call on Gossom being out of bounds cheated us out of breaking the "streak" at two
1984 - Kick the fucking field goal for God's sake. Terrible Alabama team beat a really good AU.
1985 - Fuck anybody named Tiffin. Forever.
2001 - Double digit favorites, lost 31-7 to Andrew Fucking Zow. Only game I'd ever seen AU quit.
Any of the Tuberville/Chizik finale beatdowns. Way worse than this. Left those games with little hope.
I've seen pretty much everything in my life I've ever wanted. Waiting on my daughter's weddings and grandchildren, but the rest of everything I had on my list is marked off. Red Sox World Series win? Check. Braves win World Series? Check. AU national title? Check. The one thing I've yet to see, though, is Auburn blow those bastards off the field. We've won a lot of close games -- some closer in score than reality -- but I'm adding a total ass whipping to my wish list. I want to beat them so badly it demoralizes their entire fanbase. I want every redneck fuck who's ever bawled unprovoked shit at me or my family -- including the four-toothed bastard at Wal Mart last night who talked taunting shit to my daughter AFTER I let him go ahead of me in line because he only had one item -- I want them to question their entire existence and consider suicide. And the assbag I let ahead of me in line? I knew you were getting cigarettes. I let you in front so you could get them and get closer to making a quicker exit from this planet. Suck on that emphysema stick. Suck it hard.
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Not my worst, cause I think everybody knew what was gonna happen, hoped it didn't, had real hope after the first half and then the real defense showed up. CEJ has to go, this team (defensively) got worst as the season went on. If I was on the offensive side of the ball, I would tell CEJ to truly go fuck himself.
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Not my worst, cause I think everybody knew what was gonna happen, hoped it didn't, had real hope after the first half and then the real defense showed up. CEJ has to go, this team (defensively) got worst as the season went on. If I was on the offensive side of the ball, I would tell CEJ to truly go fuck himself.
He used to be really keen with defense and whatnot.
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He used to be really keen with defense and whatnot.
I use to be young. Still am keen. :rolleyes:
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Any of the Tuberville/Chizik finale beatdowns. Way worse than this. Left those games with little hope.
I've seen pretty much everything in my life I've ever wanted. Waiting on my daughter's weddings and grandchildren, but the rest of everything I had on my list is marked off. Red Sox World Series win? Check. Braves win World Series? Check. AU national title? Check. The one thing I've yet to see, though, is Auburn blow those bastards off the field. We've won a lot of close games -- some closer in score than reality -- but I'm adding a total ass whipping to my wish list. I want to beat them so badly it demoralizes their entire fanbase. I want every redneck fuck who's ever bawled unprovoked shit at me or my family -- including the four-toothed bastard at Wal Mart last night who talked taunting shit to my daughter AFTER I let him go ahead of me in line because he only had one item -- I want them to question their entire existence and consider suicide. And the assbag I let ahead of me in line? I knew you were getting cigarettes. I let you in front so you could get them and get closer to making a quicker exit from this planet. Suck on that emphysema stick. Suck it hard.
The blowouts don't bother me as much as this one. I would rather sit through 2012 than last night. At least in 2012 and 2011 and 2008, I went into it thinking we had no chance and it was confirmed by the performance on the field.
Last night, I thought we had no chance. In Tuscaloosa, at night, with our team that had seemingly given up since the end of the Texas A&M game - and we should have completed your bucket list.
That game was just as bad of a blowout as the LSU game. We should have clowned their asses so hard that the committee would have laughed at the SEC champion being considered for the playoff. We were pounding them so bad that they were warming up Jacob Coker. They had no answer for what was happening on the field. Statistically, I believe our offense dominated Nick Saban's defense worse than any other team in his entire coaching tenure.
And we still fucking lost. And the last seven years of so many times saying, "Alabama still fucking won" just compounding the shittiness that was last night.
It all starts with January Whatever, 2007 when they hired him. Those mouthbreathing rednecks shoved it down everyone's throats that they were the new kings of college football and the greatest dynasty in history was about to own everyone. And they were right. They were fucking right.
Add in the shadiness of their recruiting strategies, the rule breaking with coaches, boosters, and current players, and the cold shoulder of the NCAA, and last night was the nail in my football watching coffin.
I thought I would be over it and have a good "manpon" in today, but I'm not. Not even going to watch the NFL. Already planned a nice outing next weekend with my wife, so no SECCG for me. Don't care what Express Oil Lube bowl game we go to and don't care what Big 16-6 boring ass team we play.
In other news - Can anyone confirm that the Bama student section was chanting "Lutzie is dead" last night? I can't believe anyone would stoop that low.
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al.com is projecting Auburn in the Music Fucking City Bowl against Louisville.
:facepalm:
No thank you.
According to those fucks, Bama gets Baylor in the first semi final. Well FUCK that. I am a Missouri, TCU, Baylor, Oregon, FS... no, fuck that... if it comes to THAT I'm rooting for Armageddon.
Other projections:
MSU-Georgia Tech in the Orange "Who Gives a Fuck" Bowl
South Carolina in the "Do They Still Have a Stadium" Birmingham Bowl
Ole Miss in the Tax Slaying IRS What the Fuck Bowl
Georgia against Iowa in the Outback Shitty Steaks Bowl
A&M vs West Virginia in the Give Me Liberty from this Bowl of Shit Bowl
LSU vs. Texas in the How the Fuck Did they Get Eligible Texas Bowl
Arkansas in the Independence Where's The Buffet Bowl
Florida in the Quick Lane to the Exit Bowl
Missouri in the Citrus I don't have a quip for this shit bowl
I'm sorry, but I would not pay eleven cents to watch any of those shit infested maggot bowls.
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In other news - Can anyone confirm that the Bama student section was chanting "Lutzie is dead" last night? I can't believe anyone would stoop that low.
They were saying "Luck is dead"
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They were saying "Luck is dead"
Because that makes perfect sense. I mean...everyone says "Luck is dead". Not "Luck ran out" or "No more luck".
"Luck is dead" sounds like a perfectly credible chant.
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Because that makes perfect sense. I mean...everyone says "Luck is dead". Not "Luck ran out" or "No more luck".
"Luck is dead" sounds like a perfectly credible chant.
Your sarcasm is warranted. However, I would much prefer to have some SPUAT students brag about the chant thus confirming our suspicions.
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It is not normal for a team to lose after posting 600 yrds of offense.
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Fuck the disappointment. Worst ever? Bitch Pleeeeeeeease. We had 44 points and 630 yards. We lost because #1, the refs made damn sure it didn't get away from Bama in the first half. Worst called game I've seen in years. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. Never have been. That was mandated by the SEC office. It happens. Had a conversation with a HS coach who talked with an SEC ref after the 2010 Iron Bowl. Said the crew was told in no uncertain terms that Fairley would be flagged first play he made to "keep him in check".
They needed Bama in the Final 4. They made sure.
Second. Ellis Johnson is gone because a 6th grader can see that you don't take the best offensive player in college football...period...and leave him on an island with a corner for 4 quarters. It was candy from a baby. We heard for years that AU won in 2010 because of Cam. Bama is 7-5 without Cooper. Johnson decided it was okay to cover him one on one for 4 quarters. That's why you're looking for work. Double team him and we win by 20. Despite the SEC Office mandate.
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Fuck the disappointment. Worst ever? Bitch Pleeeeeeeease. We had 44 points and 630 yards. We lost because #1, the refs made damn sure it didn't get away from Bama in the first half. Worst called game I've seen in years. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. Never have been. That was mandated by the SEC office. It happens. Had a conversation with a HS coach who talked with an SEC ref after the 2010 Iron Bowl. Said the crew was told in no uncertain terms that Fairley would be flagged first play he made to "keep him in check".
They needed Bama in the Final 4. They made sure.
Second. Ellis Johnson is gone because a 6th grader can see that you don't take the best offensive player in college football...period...and leave him on an island with a corner for 4 quarters. It was candy from a baby. We heard for years that AU won in 2010 because of Cam. Bama is 7-5 without Cooper. Johnson decided it was okay to cover him one on one for 4 quarters. That's why you're looking for work. Double team him and we win by 20. Despite the SEC Office mandate.
He speaks for all of us
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I don't know about y'all, but the outcome of that game didn't faze me. I wanted the season to end after the aTm game. I didn't get on Rivals or even post here that much since that game. I also had a feeling that Coach Ellis Johnson was going to be let go after that game, so I've been more looking forward to seeing who the next DC was going to be, it better be someone that breathes fire...not another relaxed, laidback type like Coach Johnson was. I want a animated DC, someone that'll fire up the defense, maybe get a little bloody too.
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I don't know about y'all, but the outcome of that game didn't faze me. I wanted the season to end after the aTm game. I didn't get on Rivals or even post here that much since that game. I also had a feeling that Coach Ellis Johnson was going to be let go after that game, so I've been more looking forward to seeing who the next DC was going to be, it better be someone that breathes fire...not another relaxed, laidback type like Coach Johnson was. I want a animated DC, someone that'll fire up the defense, maybe get a little bloody too.
Hmmmm, I wonder who could fit the description you are looking for? Boom mothaducker, I've got it!
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Hmmmm, I wonder who could fit the description you are looking for? Boom mothaducker, I've got it!
There is mutual interest here.
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I'm not sure who he's talking about either. This guy may know though.
(http://www.lostlettermen.com/files/images/uploads/slideshow/13505102825MuschampCoachBlood.jpg)
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I'm not sure who he's talking about either. This guy may know though.
(http://www.lostlettermen.com/files/images/uploads/slideshow/13505102825MuschampCoachBlood.jpg)
Yeah, somebody who is already familiar with Auburn.
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The blowouts don't bother me as much as this one. I would rather sit through 2012 than last night. At least in 2012 and 2011 and 2008, I went into it thinking we had no chance and it was confirmed by the performance on the field.
Last night, I thought we had no chance. In Tuscaloosa, at night, with our team that had seemingly given up since the end of the Texas A&M game - and we should have completed your bucket list.
That game was just as bad of a blowout as the LSU game. We should have clowned their asses so hard that the committee would have laughed at the SEC champion being considered for the playoff. We were pounding them so bad that they were warming up Jacob Coker. They had no answer for what was happening on the field. Statistically, I believe our offense dominated Nick Saban's defense worse than any other team in his entire coaching tenure.
And we still fucking lost. And the last seven years of so many times saying, "Alabama still fucking won" just compounding the shittiness that was last night.
It all starts with January Whatever, 2007 when they hired him. Those mouthbreathing rednecks shoved it down everyone's throats that they were the new kings of college football and the greatest dynasty in history was about to own everyone. And they were right. They were fucking right.
Add in the shadiness of their recruiting strategies, the rule breaking with coaches, boosters, and current players, and the cold shoulder of the NCAA, and last night was the nail in my football watching coffin.
I thought I would be over it and have a good "manpon" in today, but I'm not. Not even going to watch the NFL. Already planned a nice outing next weekend with my wife, so no SECCG for me. Don't care what Express Oil Lube bowl game we go to and don't care what Big 16-6 boring ass team we play.
In other news - Can anyone confirm that the Bama student section was chanting "Lutzie is dead" last night? I can't believe anyone would stoop that low.
You are fucking out of your gord.
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You are fucking out of your gord.
My goUrd is laminated. It's impregnable. It's covered by a forcefield. Ain't no leaving it.
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Last night, I thought we had no chance. In Tuscaloosa, at night, with our team that had seemingly given up since the end of the Texas A&M game - and we should have completed your bucket list.
This statement tells me all I need to know, where the fuck did this team ever give up. Wow maybe you should do the same thing as Chizad and go cheer for bammer, your life will be happier.
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This statement tells me all I need to know, where the fuck did this team ever give up. Wow maybe you should do the same thing as Chizad and go cheer for bammer, your life will be happier.
I'd say we ran out of gas Saturday night. Those guys fought. Didn't help that the dickwad DC decided to let Amari run around free all night.
But the second half of A&M and all of UGA, I'm not sure what else we can call it - in those 6 quarters of play we looked pretty bad and without much effort.
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But the second half of A&M and all of UGA, I'm not sure what else we can call it - in those 6 quarters of play we looked pretty bad and without much effort.
Second half of aTm? You mean, when we outscored them 21-6?
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Second half of aTm? You mean, when we outscored them 21-6?
No shit, am I in an alternate universe.
We should have beaten aTm twice if not for 2 fumbles. Fumbles are not caused by quitting. I also tend to think UGA was an aTm (disappointment hangover).
Look guys I am just as upset as everyone else that we lost the game. I also will admit that I was wrong in defending Johnson (although I do contend that 2 years isn't a whole hell of a lot of time) I'm not upset that he has been let go. But to make a statement like you would rather deal with 2012 and expect to lose a game than be competitive in a game (and still lose) is crazy to me.
I would rather be competitive in every game we play 100% of the time than ever go into a game expecting to lose. The most pissed off I was about a game this year was aTm because we should have won that game. aTm should not have beaten us on our home turf. Losing to MSU, UGA and Bama all on the road against good teams, we were in those ball games (cept UGA), if you don't want to be competitive why even bother watching the games? Why post on an Auburn football forum?
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No shit, am I in an alternate universe.
Like, duh.
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Didn't help that the dickwad DC decided to let Amari run around free all night.
I just can't believe that was the plan. On Cooper's first TD, it looked like Mincy was supposed to give Cooper a bit of attention and just ignored him, essentially leaving a RB Ono on one with Cooper.
Why is it that everyte something bad happened here lately Mincy has been around the play like Thorpe used to be?
And what happened to Therezie? He just disappeared!
Was the whitehead issue really a team issue? Something is very odd here.
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No shit, am I in an alternate universe.
We should have beaten aTm twice if not for 2 fumbles. Fumbles are not caused by quitting. I also tend to think UGA was an aTm (disappointment hangover).
Look guys I am just as upset as everyone else that we lost the game. I also will admit that I was wrong in defending Johnson (although I do contend that 2 years isn't a whole hell of a lot of time) I'm not upset that he has been let go. But to make a statement like you would rather deal with 2012 and expect to lose a game than be competitive in a game (and still lose) is crazy to me.
I would rather be competitive in every game we play 100% of the time than ever go into a game expecting to lose. The most pissed off I was about a game this year was aTm because we should have won that game. aTm should not have beaten us on our home turf. Losing to MSU, UGA and Bama all on the road against good teams, we were in those ball games (cept UGA), if you don't want to be competitive why even bother watching the games? Why post on an Auburn football forum?
Troof. I believe it was the year Tater Tot walked out on us that I was at the Iron Bowl and left there thinking I hadn't seen so little talent at Auburn in forever. Tuberville came in and said that very thing when he took over. But, that team even jumped out on Bama at the start and fought their asses off. Just not enough players to compete. As I've said before, the only thing that really upset me about 2012 is that the team quit. They quit right after LSU and mailed in the rest of the season. I can take getting beat by a better team, or even out corched in some instances. Saturday night, we played the #1 team in the country on their turf and got out corched. Steps have already been taken to correct that issue. I can live with that.
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I would take losing where we are competitive to getting an ass kicking any day of the week.
And GF and WE!, you're not wrong in defending Johnson. Maybe it was bad coaching, maybe it was lack of talent. Maybe both. But someone is going to lose a job when you give up 30+ in 6 straight SEC games, and finish 0-3 in conference down the stretch.
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I would take losing where we are competitive to getting an ass kicking any day of the week.
And GF and WE!, you're not wrong in defending Johnson. Maybe it was bad coaching, maybe it was lack of talent. Maybe both. But someone is going to lose a job when you give up 30+ in 6 straight SEC games, and finish 0-3 in conference down the stretch.
:thumsup:
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I didn't see any quit in the offense, at all. Not one iota. Maybe a little from the D on that last drive. It kind of looked like they were thinking, "what's the use?". But, most of the game, they seemed to be working as hard as they could.
I must say that I had heard bad things regarding team morale and I was worried that they would show up like the 2012 team vs the thugs. Didn't happen at all. I am proud of the way that they fought.
Not proud of the way we played #9 but I never thought that we could stop him. I did think we could do better against him than we did. He's good but fuck! That was pitiful. He's a Duke type receiver. I will take Duke over him but he's that caliber. We actually looked scared of the mofo. Maybe I'm totally off on that but that's the way it appeared to me.
Regardless, it's over and I'm very happy that Gus is cutting our losses and moving in a different direction. Johnson has likely forgotten more about coaching D than many know but it wasn't translating into performance. This was an excellent decision, imo. Sometimes, even good people don't work out and new blood is needed. This was one of those times.
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Let me play a little devil's advocate. Understand that I am not unhappy about Ellis going. I do not think he has brought a toughness to AU that we sorely need on that side of the ball, but that being said what about the "defensive geniuses of our time" Saban and Smart giving up 44 to us?
Understand that I am not downing us. We know Gus' offenses can score points. But we jacked them for 44 and realistically had we put some of our field goals in the endzone probably hang over 55 on them. What say you all about the the defensive geniuses having 55+ hung on them?
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Let me play a little devil's advocate. Understand that I am not unhappy about Ellis going. I do not think he has brought a toughness to AU that we sorely need on that side of the ball, but that being said what about the "defensive geniuses of our time" Saban and Smart giving up 44 to us?
Understand that I am not downing us. We know Gus' offenses can score points. But we jacked them for 44 and realistically had we put some of our field goals in the endzone probably hang over 55 on them. What say you all about the the defensive geniuses having 55+ hung on them?
The best defense is a good defense..wait, the best offense is a good defense. Or is it, the best offense is a good kicking game. No...
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I didn't see any quit in the offense, at all. Not one iota. Maybe a little from the D on that last drive. It kind of looked like they were thinking, "what's the use?".
I thought they just looked worn out more than giving up.
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The best defense is a good defense..wait, the best offense is a good defense. Or is it, the best offense is a good kicking game. No...
I thought it all rested with the Long snapper?
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There was a time not all that long ago where I said that I would be happy with Auburn football if I could look at the schedule and not go "well, there's a sure loss" ; where we went into every game with a realistic chance of winning; where we would win more than we lost and have a chance every few years for a special season (like 2004, 2010, 2013..).
It wasn't that long ago when that was enough. All of us were on that same page. Why is there such angst now?
Is it because we've won it once, played for twice and been in the hunt five or six times in the last ten years? Is it because we're spoiled? Or is it because of the rampant cheating, the cult of personality and the unbelievable bullshit luck coming out of Tuscaloosa the last few years?
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This statement tells me all I need to know, where the fuck did this team ever give up. Wow maybe you should do the same thing as Chizad and go cheer for bammer, your life will be happier.
I'd say a 34-7 shellacking in Athens and a lackluster performance against Samford looked a whole lot like the team had given up.
You expected a competitive game against Alabama in Tuscaloosa? Outside of blind homerism, what would make you think we were going to play the way we did on Saturday?
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Or is it because of the rampant cheating, the cult of personality and the unbelievable bullshit luck coming out of Tuscaloosa the last few years?
I think I've made three posts talking about this over the last two weeks, and no one has seemed to take it up.
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There was a time not all that long ago where I said that I would be happy with Auburn football if I could look at the schedule and not go "well, there's a sure loss" ; where we went into every game with a realistic chance of winning; where we would win more than we lost and have a chance every few years for a special season (like 2004, 2010, 2013..).
It wasn't that long ago when that was enough. All of us were on that same page. Why is there such angst now?
Is it because we've won it once, played for twice and been in the hunt five or six times in the last ten years? Is it because we're spoiled? Or is it because of the rampant cheating, the cult of personality and the unbelievable bullshit luck coming out of Tuscaloosa the last few years?
When it doubt blame Tuscaloosa and those who reside there. They are guilty of plenty.
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Let me play a little devil's advocate. Understand that I am not unhappy about Ellis going. I do not think he has brought a toughness to AU that we sorely need on that side of the ball, but that being said what about the "defensive geniuses of our time" Saban and Smart giving up 44 to us?
Understand that I am not downing us. We know Gus' offenses can score points. But we jacked them for 44 and realistically had we put some of our field goals in the endzone probably hang over 55 on them. What say you all about the the defensive geniuses having 55+ hung on them?
The same thought occurred to me but I think that the difference is in the body of work. We saw similar performance the last half of the season and numerous 30 plus point games the last two.
I see the point and it makes sense, however, we are one of the highest octane offenses in college football. Possibly THE highest. Bama is a good offense.
Simply put, we were not trending up on defense.
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I'd say a 34-7 shellacking in Athens and a lackluster performance against Samford looked a whole lot like the team had given up.
You expected a competitive game against Alabama in Tuscaloosa? Outside of blind homerism, what would make you think we were going to play the way we did on Saturday?
I will give you the UGA beatdown but please Samford? Tune-up game for bama, that was always gonna be what it was.
Yes I expected to play the way we did Saturday, why wouldn't you? Our offense was great in every game we played except for the UGA game (and maybe K-State). As a former teacher you should know that one "outlier" does not equal the norm. We were far more likely to be good than we were bad.
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What say you all about the the defensive geniuses having 55+ hung on them?
I say I hope they get Ebola, Cancer, AIDS, and the clap.
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There was a time not all that long ago where I said that I would be happy with Auburn football if I could look at the schedule and not go "well, there's a sure loss" ; where we went into every game with a realistic chance of winning; where we would win more than we lost and have a chance every few years for a special season (like 2004, 2010, 2013..).
That is still all I ever ask for, be competitive! Win the games we are supposed to win and be competitive with those that pose a threat with a chance to win it in the end. Thats what we got this year a competitive football team.
As for bammer, I can't control all that, so I tend to focus on our own team.
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I say I hope they get Ebola, Cancer, AIDS, and the clap.
Regular aids or teh goat aids?
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I will give you the UGA beatdown but please Samford? Tune-up game for bama, that was always gonna be what it was.
Yes I expected to play the way we did Saturday, why wouldn't you? Our offense was great in every game we played except for the UGA game (and maybe K-State). As a former teacher you should know that one "outlier" does not equal the norm. We were far more likely to be good than we were bad.
I don't think you read my posts well enough if you think I hated this game because we were competitive and not blown out. The issue here is what Kaos said - I'm tired of Alabama. I'm over it. I'm over this whole conference and league.
They say to be the best you have to beat the best, and they also say that some losses can break a program.
Teams have beaten Alabama, but they don't die. Alabama beats teams that crumble and fire their coaches. They beat really good teams that are staring at a rebuilding year.
But year after year, we're constantly watching the Bama parade and it takes outliers like a kick 6 to knock them out of orbit, which usually doesn't anyway. Hell, if the playoff started last year, Alabama would have been in it.
That team is 13 points away from having competed in and probably won 5 going on 6 national championships and with all the allegations that fizzle into pixie dust, I'm over it.
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I don't think you read my posts well enough if you think I hated this game because we were competitive and not blown out. The issue here is what Kaos said - I'm tired of Alabama. I'm over it. I'm over this whole conference and league.
They say to be the best you have to beat the best, and they also say that some losses can break a program.
Teams have beaten Alabama, but they don't die. Alabama beats teams that crumble and fire their coaches. They beat really good teams that are staring at a rebuilding year.
But year after year, we're constantly watching the Bama parade and it takes outliers like a kick 6 to knock them out of orbit, which usually doesn't anyway. Hell, if the playoff started last year, Alabama would have been in it.
That team is 13 points away from having competed in and probably won 5 going on 6 national championships and with all the allegations that fizzle into pixie dust, I'm over it.
That is little brother syndrome with bammer you need to get over that shit.
Take Tylenol for any headaches... Midol for any cramps
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Realistically, I think we made the best long term investment by firing Ellis.
Sure, we could've won it all with a break or two and should've won it all last year. But, we didn't, haven't and I think wouldn't have a championship level D with him.
We desperately need more balance in talent, coaching and player development. Hopefully this hire will get us there.
Next year? I dunno. Will likely take 2 years to get us in top half of SEC on D but I'm hoping we will see more improvement next season on D than we had in 2013.
A little more pass rush and much improved tackling will go a long way.
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I don't think you read my posts well enough if you think I hated this game because we were competitive and not blown out. The issue here is what Kaos said - I'm tired of Alabama. I'm over it. I'm over this whole conference and league.
They say to be the best you have to beat the best, and they also say that some losses can break a program.
Teams have beaten Alabama, but they don't die. Alabama beats teams that crumble and fire their coaches. They beat really good teams that are staring at a rebuilding year.
But year after year, we're constantly watching the Bama parade and it takes outliers like a kick 6 to knock them out of orbit, which usually doesn't anyway. Hell, if the playoff started last year, Alabama would have been in it.
That team is 13 points away from having competed in and probably won 5 going on 6 national championships and with all the allegations that fizzle into pixie dust, I'm over it.
Get over it dude. They beat us. Didn't whip our ass. Don't let them set the standard. We hold our own against them better than any other team in the conference. I don't know the stats but we are pretty close head to head.
They claim every national championship since A.D. but who cares? I consider this year an outlier in that we hung with them although we had a really bad defense.
Gus will be more than .500 vs. Saban when all is said and done. WT said that.
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A little more pass rush and much improved tackling will go a long way.
And that seems to have been a problem since Tuberville left. 3 defensive coordinators, and not one can fix tackling.
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And that seems to have been a problem since Tuberville left. 3 defensive coordinators, and not one can fix tackling.
I thought tackling (outside of State Farm) actually was improved last year. Maybe because my expectations were so low from 2012. It did seem to take a hit this year.
Honestly though, I really don't think we are going to see the defensive teams of Tubs years with the type of offense we run. I think it boils down to conditioning and depth, and depth is hard to maintain year in and year out. Not every player you get is a home run hitter that can play right away. (even the JUCO route)
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That is little brother syndrome with bammer you need to get over that shit.
Take Tylenol for any headaches... Midol for any cramps
or Trashy Trina.
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Let me play a little devil's advocate. Understand that I am not unhappy about Ellis going. I do not think he has brought a toughness to AU that we sorely need on that side of the ball, but that being said what about the "defensive geniuses of our time" Saban and Smart giving up 44 to us?
Understand that I am not downing us. We know Gus' offenses can score points. But we jacked them for 44 and realistically had we put some of our field goals in the endzone probably hang over 55 on them. What say you all about the the defensive geniuses having 55+ hung on them?
It's not the norm. MSU put up over 400 yards on them but only scored 25. Don't get me wrong, Alabama has had a few games this year where they have given up big yardage. Ark, Ole Miss, WVU, UT put up over 350 yards on them along with State and us putting up over 400 and 600. They still don't give up many points though.
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On another note, the day was not a total loss. GT ripped the heart out of the Dawgs chest and showed it to them.
Georgia has become my new most hated fan base. The asshole of the SEC universe. Yeah, I know. Bama and all that. But I've grown up with that rivalry and it is what it is. It's like that's a totally separate issue for me. I've been going to Iron Bowls since I was a kid. First one in 73'. In all those years, I have never had a confrontation with any Bama fan like I had on numerous occasions a couple of weeks ago in Athens. The past few years at JHS, it's been obvious that UGA fans have become the new LSU. Cocky, obnoxious, belligerent assholes. 3 times in Athens, I had fans walk right by me and holler "Fuck Auburn". One was a girl. A guy down in front of me in the stadium stood with bird fingers in the air the entire time they announced AU's starting line up. The cheers for an injured Auburn player were a touch of class too. Cheering because he was injured.
So Georgia, you can take a dripping aids infected goat dick straight up the ass. :thumsup:to the Rambling Wreck
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On another note, the day was not a total loss. GT ripped the heart out of the Dawgs chest and showed it to them.
Georgia has become my new most hated fan base. The asshole of the SEC universe. Yeah, I know. Bama and all that. But I've grown up with that rivalry and it is what it is. It's like that's a totally separate issue for me. I've been going to Iron Bowls since I was a kid. First one in 73'. In all those years, I have never had a confrontation with any Bama fan like I had on numerous occasions a couple of weeks ago in Athens. The past few years at JHS, it's been obvious that UGA fans have become the new LSU. Cocky, obnoxious, belligerent assholes. 3 times in Athens, I had fans walk right by me and holler "Fuck Auburn". One was a girl. A guy down in front of me in the stadium stood with bird fingers in the air the entire time they announced AU's starting line up. The cheers for an injured Auburn player were a touch of class too. Cheering because he was injured.
So Georgia, you can take a dripping aids infected goat dick straight up the ass. :thumsup:to the Rambling Wreck
I've said for a long time now, UGA fans are the bammers of the east.
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On another note, the day was not a total loss. GT ripped the heart out of the Dawgs chest and showed it to them.
Georgia has become my new most hated fan base. The asshole of the SEC universe. Yeah, I know. Bama and all that. But I've grown up with that rivalry and it is what it is. It's like that's a totally separate issue for me. I've been going to Iron Bowls since I was a kid. First one in 73'. In all those years, I have never had a confrontation with any Bama fan like I had on numerous occasions a couple of weeks ago in Athens. The past few years at JHS, it's been obvious that UGA fans have become the new LSU. Cocky, obnoxious, belligerent assholes. 3 times in Athens, I had fans walk right by me and holler "Fuck Auburn". One was a girl. A guy down in front of me in the stadium stood with bird fingers in the air the entire time they announced AU's starting line up. The cheers for an injured Auburn player were a touch of class too. Cheering because he was injured.
So Georgia, you can take a dripping aids infected goat dick straight up the ass. :thumsup:to the Rambling Wreck
Georgia can eat a big ol dick!
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Second half of aTm? You mean, when we outscored them 21-6?
Doah...yep, 1st half. Brain and fingers were arguing during that post.
But even with that said, between the miscues at the end of that game, and all of the UGA game - there was an apparent lack of focus that was disturbing. I give Gus credit for rallying the troops for Bama and making it a game. I just cant get past how bad the D was....
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It's not the norm. MSU put up over 400 yards on them but only scored 25. Don't get me wrong, Alabama has had a few games this year where they have given up big yardage. Ark, Ole Miss, WVU, UT put up over 350 yards on them along with State and us putting up over 400 and 600. They still don't give up many points though.
True...
It doesnt happen to Saban often. More times than not, their D wins them ballgames. Gus and Sumlin have been the only two that have cracked through it in mass quantity (points and yards) and even Sumlin got stifled this year. So like I said, Gus and Manziel have been the only two who have figured Saban out.
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On another note, the day was not a total loss. GT ripped the heart out of the Dawgs chest and showed it to them.
Georgia has become my new most hated fan base. The asshole of the SEC universe. Yeah, I know. Bama and all that. But I've grown up with that rivalry and it is what it is. It's like that's a totally separate issue for me. I've been going to Iron Bowls since I was a kid. First one in 73'. In all those years, I have never had a confrontation with any Bama fan like I had on numerous occasions a couple of weeks ago in Athens. The past few years at JHS, it's been obvious that UGA fans have become the new LSU. Cocky, obnoxious, belligerent assholes. 3 times in Athens, I had fans walk right by me and holler "Fuck Auburn". One was a girl. A guy down in front of me in the stadium stood with bird fingers in the air the entire time they announced AU's starting line up. The cheers for an injured Auburn player were a touch of class too. Cheering because he was injured.
So Georgia, you can take a dripping aids infected goat dick straight up the ass. :thumsup:to the Rambling Wreck
It seems to affect those of us who live close (within 30 miles) to the Ga state line. We have to live amongst the underachieving Richt mutts. We win no less than 10 games with their schedule and totally shit the bed in our loss to them. The team that showed up for Bama on O whips that mutt ass now.
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Doah...yep, 1st half. Brain and fingers were arguing during that post.
But even with that said, between the miscues at the end of that game, and all of the UGA game - there was an apparent lack of focus that was disturbing. I give Gus credit for rallying the troops for Bama and making it a game. I just cant get past how bad the D was....
Were your hand and dick fighting again?
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On another note, the day was not a total loss. GT ripped the heart out of the Dawgs chest and showed it to them.
Georgia has become my new most hated fan base. The asshole of the SEC universe. Yeah, I know. Bama and all that. But I've grown up with that rivalry and it is what it is. It's like that's a totally separate issue for me. I've been going to Iron Bowls since I was a kid. First one in 73'. In all those years, I have never had a confrontation with any Bama fan like I had on numerous occasions a couple of weeks ago in Athens. The past few years at JHS, it's been obvious that UGA fans have become the new LSU. Cocky, obnoxious, belligerent assholes. 3 times in Athens, I had fans walk right by me and holler "Fuck Auburn". One was a girl. A guy down in front of me in the stadium stood with bird fingers in the air the entire time they announced AU's starting line up. The cheers for an injured Auburn player were a touch of class too. Cheering because he was injured.
So Georgia, you can take a dripping aids infected goat dick straight up the ass. :thumsup:to the Rambling Wreck
The best part is they got their asses beat twice last week. They wanted Arkansas to win more than the razorbacks fans wanted Arky to win.
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The best part is they got their asses beat twice last week. They wanted Arkansas to win more than the razorbacks fans wanted Arky to win.
Delicious tears
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Were your hand and dick fighting again?
No fighting there. They get along fine.