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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on July 20, 2013, 02:26:02 AM
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Haven't seen this discussed yet. No I'm not joking.
www.walkingschoolbus.org
It's a full website endorsed by Michelle Obama that can help you form a walking school bus in your area.
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Haven't seen this discussed yet. No I'm not joking.
www.walkingschoolbus.org
It's a full website endorsed by Michelle Obama that can help you form a walking school bus in your area.
All I see in those pictures are white children. I guess not only can we no longer sit in the front of the bus, we can't even get on it.
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I seriously don't get all the facepalming at Michelle Obama trying to promote physical fitness for children.
There's a billion and one things to legitimately bitch about the President. I fail to see how his wife trying to cut down the obesity epidemic in children is one of them.
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Looks like the Hoover City Schools are on board with this...
http://www.abc3340.com/story/22857390/hoover-city-schools-says-bye-bye-to-buses (http://www.abc3340.com/story/22857390/hoover-city-schools-says-bye-bye-to-buses)
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I seriously don't get all the facepalming at Michelle Obama trying to promote physical fitness for children.
There's a billion and one things to legitimately bitch about the President. I fail to see how his wife trying to cut down the obesity epidemic in children is one of them.
I thought you were leaning libertarian? You really don't see how turning walking to school into a government program is a microcosm of what is wrong with our country?
Stay tuned for the next one. Spic and Span Hygiene. The government has a wonderful way for you to maintain proper cleanliness after defecation. Green toilet paper with a whole new wiping technique that minimizes toilet paper waste.
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Not sure if serious. I fail to see the government overreach. I missed where the government is FORCING anyone to do anything.
And again, we're talking about encouraging kids to exercise more. This is a bad thing?
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My kids would have to walk 17 miles to school, 10 of which are interstate. This is obviously geared toward inner city minority children. I feel discriminated against. Why are my kids not important enough for the First Lady?
Maybe I'll use the new HUD program to relocate my middle class family to the inner city neighborhoods.
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All I see in those pictures are white children. I guess not only can we no longer sit in the front of the bus, we can't even get on it.
We didn't land on Plymouth Rock; Plymouth Rock landed on us!
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My kids would have to walk 17 miles to school, 10 of which are interstate. This is obviously geared toward inner city minority children. I feel discriminated against. Why are my kids not important enough for the First Lady?
Maybe I'll use the new HUD program to relocate my middle class family to the inner city neighborhoods.
Might as well, they will all be empty soon.
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Not sure if serious. I fail to see the government overreach. I missed where the government is FORCING anyone to do anything.
And again, we're talking about encouraging kids to exercise more. This is a bad thing?
Does it have to be force for it to be criticized?
My and your tax dollars are being spent to promote some cockeyed version of walking to school because for some reason, citizens in this country are incapable of thinking "Hey, maybe I should walk to school for exercise" on their own.
Not to mention, this is a bullshit way of "getting into shape." Even if you walk 2 miles to school, you're not going to burn enough calories to offset the 300 calorie bag of poptarts these imbecile children shoved into their mouth before finding the Walking School Bus Driver at the Walking School Bus Stop.
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Nancy Reagan wasted tax dollars with "Just Say No" campaigns. Are kids too dumb to figure out not to do dugs on their own?
Barbara and Laua Bush wasted tax dollars with literacy campaigns. Are kids too dumb to figure out how to read on their own?
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Nancy Reagan wasted tax dollars with "Just Say No" campaigns. Are kids too dumb to figure out not to do dugs on their own?
Barbara and Laua Bush wasted tax dollars with literacy campaigns. Are kids too dumb to figure out how to read on their own?
The drug example is a good one. Should the government be wasting money trying to prevent kids from using drugs? Probably not. People don't need government guidance in the way they live their lives.
And of course kids are too dumb to figure out how to read on their own. What the hell kind of question is that? That's something the government should be doing. Providing finances for educators to properly teach children life skills such as reading.
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The drug example is a good one. Should the government be wasting money trying to prevent kids from using drugs? Probably not. People don't need government guidance in the way they live their lives.
And of course kids are too dumb to figure out how to read on their own. What the hell kind of question is that? That's something the government should be doing. Providing finances for educators to properly teach children life skills such as reading.
...and being physically fit and healthy.
Do you not agree that we have an obesity epidemic in this country? Particularly as it pertains to fat fucking lazy kids eating shit and playing Nintendo all day?
This is completely typical of a first lady cause. You have to pull a groin stretching hard enough to be outraged by promoting physical fitness and healthy eating in children.
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...and being physically fit and healthy.
Do you not agree that we have an obesity epidemic in this country? Particularly as it pertains to fat fucking lazy kids eating shit and playing Nintendo all day?
This is completely typical of a first lady cause. You have to pull a groin stretching hard enough to be outraged by promoting physical fitness and healthy eating in children.
I agree with the premise here, but I was right in my above post minus the sarcasm. This really only affects the majority of inner-city schools, primarily minorities. With that said, I wonder what the ratio is with obesity in children? Just my guess would be the white kids who live in rural areas that literally have 0% chance of taking a part in this program, are more than likely the fatass kids playing video games in air conditioning all day. Whereas the inner-city minorities spend all day running and getting exercise.
Dont do drugs will probably be more effective.
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So if a kid misses THIS bus, are they allowed to chase after it?
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I thought you were leaning libertarian? You really don't see how turning walking to school into a government program is a microcosm of what is wrong with our country?
Stay tuned for the next one. Spic and Span Hygiene. The government has a wonderful way for you to maintain proper cleanliness after defecation. Green toilet paper with a whole new wiping technique that minimizes toilet paper waste.
More discrimination against whites, since that one sounds like it caters to immigrants
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Nancy Reagan wasted tax dollars with "Just Say No" campaigns. Are kids too dumb to figure out not to do dugs on their own?
Barbara and Laua Bush wasted tax dollars with literacy campaigns. Are kids too dumb to figure out how to read on their own?
Laura was an educator and librarian. Made sense.
Does Michelle exactly look like she practices what she preaches (or has ever)? What the fuck makes her a qualified nutritionist or expert in exercise? She looks like a damn overweight albatross. And to make you feel better, I say the same about that hack Dr Phil. His fatass who has been unfaithful has no business getting self righteous on folks about losing weight or giving marriage advice.
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Laura was an educator and librarian. Made sense.
Does Michelle exactly look like she practices what she preaches (or has ever)? What the fuck makes her a qualified nutritionist or expert in exercise? She looks like a damn overweight albatross. And to make you feel better, I say the same about that hack Dr Phil. His fatass who has been unfaithful has no business getting self righteous on folks about losing weight or giving marriage advice.
Really?
What a fat cow...
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Uf11hYNfSJc/UBqZpyspqaI/AAAAAAAAAu4/w-0iVWTAHwY/s1600/michelle+obama.jpg)
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She should set up a foundation on how to teach undeserving individuals how to bilk others for millions of dollars in free vacation money!
And if the bottom half of that pic were posted, the buffalo part would be seen!
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I don't see the issue here.
This seems to be directed at primary school aged kids which the majority are neighborhood schools.
The people that are opposed to this are grasping at straws.
Hell, you need to be mad at this dude too then...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aKYZFcmAmU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aKYZFcmAmU)
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I don't see the issue here.
This seems to be directed at primary school aged kids which the majority are neighborhood schools.
The people that are opposed to this are grasping at straws.
Hell, you need to be mad at this dude too then...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aKYZFcmAmU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aKYZFcmAmU)
:thumsup:
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I don't see the issue here.
This seems to be directed at primary school aged kids which the majority are neighborhood schools.
The people that are opposed to this are grasping at straws.
Hell, you need to be mad at this dude too then...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aKYZFcmAmU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aKYZFcmAmU)
Big difference.
NFL sponsors and pays for the Play 60 campaign
Gov't sponsors and pays for the Let's Move campaign WITH MY TAX DOLLARS
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She should set up a foundation on how to teach undeserving individuals how to bilk others for millions of dollars in free vacation money!
And if the bottom half of that pic were posted, the buffalo part would be seen!
Huge, I tell ya!
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/7/2011/05/0510_michelle.jpg)
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Really?
What a fat cow...
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Uf11hYNfSJc/UBqZpyspqaI/AAAAAAAAAu4/w-0iVWTAHwY/s1600/michelle+obama.jpg)
Different angle:
(http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/738/ae11.JPG)
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I don't see the issue here.
This seems to be directed at primary school aged kids which the majority are neighborhood schools.
The people that are opposed to this are grasping at straws.
How so?
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Really?
What a fat cow...
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Uf11hYNfSJc/UBqZpyspqaI/AAAAAAAAAu4/w-0iVWTAHwY/s1600/michelle+obama.jpg)
For every picture you post of her just having gone on a crash diet in anticipation of a public appearance, there are 20 more of how she normally looks on a daily basis.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QKY9iWm-cpw/TwGggcc3cwI/AAAAAAAAJ-4/NxQy8hxyOZw/s1600/Michelle+Obama+FAT.jpg)
It's the hypocrisy Chad. The BMI she likes to tout so much....hers has to be off the charts. Do you know how hard it is to be that shape at her height? Jack Lalane and Jillian Michaels she is not. It would even be better if it were just a blanket campaign of "be healthier, get outside, be active, eat more fruits and veggies". Fine. That is good generic advice. It's the telling people "how" to do things where there is a rub. Which is a precursor to mandating things like food in schools etc. Which they tried to do.
Like you said not a big issue by any means compared to the big picture and economy, more of an annoyance.
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For every picture you post of her just having gone on a crash diet in anticipation of a public appearance, there are 20 more of how she normally looks on a daily basis.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QKY9iWm-cpw/TwGggcc3cwI/AAAAAAAAJ-4/NxQy8hxyOZw/s1600/Michelle+Obama+FAT.jpg)
It's the hypocrisy Chad. The BMI he likes to tout so much....hers has to be off the charts. Do you know how hard it is to be that shape at her height? Jack Lalane and Jillian Michaels she is not. It would even be better if it were just a blanket campaign of "be healthier, get outside, be active, eat more fruits and veggies". Fine. That is good generic advice. It's the telling people "how" to do things where there is a rub.
Like you said not a big issue by any means compared to the big picture and economy, more of an annoyance.
Don't forget the fact that she can't even keep her own Husband from eating 1,000 calorie greay bacon cheeseburgers. uit telling everyone else what to do if you are not willing to do it yourself
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She should set up a foundation on how to teach undeserving individuals how to bilk others for millions of dollars in free vacation money!
And if the bottom half of that pic were posted, the buffalo part would be seen!
It's called cherry picking to support your preconceived notions. Pretty standard Chizad protocol. Just like he did in the trayvon case which he later admitted he had came around to the right way of thinking with actual logic.
It's pretty common for Michelle to yo yo diet when she knows she has an appearance coming up to support her diet cause.
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Big difference.
NFL sponsors and pays for the Play 60 campaign
Gov't sponsors and pays for the Let's Move campaign WITH MY TAX DOLLARS
Why does it matter? This program is CHEAP compared to other programs...find fault with those. Not with ones that are trying to actually make people better...
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How so?
Because I don't understand what the big deal is. Everyone here agrees that kids are fat and lazy.
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Why does it matter? This program is CHEAP compared to other programs...find fault with those. Not with ones that are trying to actually make people better...
How dare autr have issues with tax payer funds being used to force or mandate a lifestyle. I thought you of all people being in "Texxuss by gawwdd!!" would be in the "don't tell me how to live my life" camp. The money and cost is really secondary. Live and let live right?
The fed gov throwing money at child obesity isn't the solution. It starts at home and at local level. Also has a lot to do with our society in general.
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How dare autr have issues with tax payer funds being used to force or mandate a lifestyle. I thought you of all people being in "Texxuss by gawwdd!!" would be in the "don't tell me how to live my life" camp. The money and cost is really secondary. Live and let live right?
The fed gov throwing money at child obesity isn't the solution. It starts at home and at local level. Also has a lot to do with our society in general.
I thought money wasn't the issue? If it's not, then why does it ruffle everyone's god damn feathers that the DoT...endorsed by Michelle Obama...is trying to encourage people to walk to school???
And "force or mandate a lifestyle"??? That's the fucking most absurd thing I have ever heard...
Forcing and mandating a lifestyle is making 60oz soft drinks illegal. This is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR from that shit. This is an example and suggestion for things parents and students can do to get active. Nothing more...nothing less...
Like I said...people bitching at this are grasping at straws for no reason...
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She's ugly as a drowned haint and got a serious case of the thick trunk.
(http://exleftist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/gal_michelle_obama_05.jpg)
By far one of the ugliest women I've ever seen, regardless of color. And she's fat. When your butt is four times the size of your boobs? And your front butt eclipses your breasts as well? Moo.
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Marie Antionette in negative.
(http://therealrevo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/fat-michelle-obama-1.jpg)
This photo is probably unretouched.
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(http://frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/michelle-pig-450x296.jpg)
Jeez.
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I thought money wasn't the issue? If it's not, then why does it ruffle everyone's god damn feathers that the DoT...endorsed by Michelle Obama...is trying to encourage people to walk to school???
And "force or mandate a lifestyle"??? That's the fucking most absurd thing I have ever heard...
Forcing and mandating a lifestyle is making 60oz soft drinks illegal. This is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR from that shit. This is an example and suggestion for things parents and students can do to get active. Nothing more...nothing less...
Like I said...people bitching at this are grasping at straws for no reason...
Thank you for keeping me sane.
I bet Michelle Obama's BMI is less than most of your wives. If you see gross obesity in any of those pictures besides the clearly photoshopped one, then I don't know what to tell you.
Let alone she never said to fucking ban cheeseburgers or anything of the sort. Not telling adults what they can and can't eat. Not dictating what children can and can't eat. Merely suggesting kids eat more fruits & vegetables and get exercise. When did that become controversial? I remember infomercials interspersed between my Saturday Morning cartoons telling me to eat vegetables and reminding me about the food pyramid in Reagan's 80s. If that's extreme leftist government overreach, I've never heard a better argument to abandon the right wing.
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I thought money wasn't the issue? If it's not, then why does it ruffle everyone's god damn feathers that the DoT...endorsed by Michelle Obama...is trying to encourage people to walk to school???
And "force or mandate a lifestyle"??? That's the fucking most absurd thing I have ever heard...
Forcing and mandating a lifestyle is making 60oz soft drinks illegal. This is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR from that shit. This is an example and suggestion for things parents and students can do to get active. Nothing more...nothing less...
Like I said...people bitching at this are grasping at straws for no reason...
So absurd that they actually tried it last year? It failed miserably. She pushed for a federal mandate to control what our kids could and couldn't eat in schools. Even if you brought your own lunch. As part of her "cause".
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Thank you for keeping me sane.
I bet Michelle Obama's BMI is less than most of your wives. If you see gross obesity in any of those pictures besides the clearly photoshopped one, then I don't know what to tell you.
Let alone she never said to fucking ban cheeseburgers or anything of the sort. Not telling adults what they can and can't eat. Not dictating what children can and can't eat. Merely suggesting kids eat more fruits & vegetables and get exercise. When did that become controversial? I remember infomercials interspersed between my Saturday Morning cartoons telling me to eat vegetables and reminding me about the food pyramid in Reagan's 80s. If that's extreme leftist government overreach, I've never heard a better argument to abandon the right wing.
You guys are obviously choosing to forget last years news. Federal school lunch mandates. Michelle. Google it. Total failure.
When they start telling what I can and cannot put in my kids lunch boxes, sorry but we have issues. Suggesting and mandating are two different things.
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Just a blurb from teh wiki's. (So, it has to be true) Bottom line for me on all of this. I have no problem whatsoever with tax $$$ used to promote anything that is obviously "healthier" for you. Better eating, more exercise, saying no to meth, wearing a condom during butt secks with strangers...
In 1985, Schwarzenegger appeared in Stop the Madness, an anti-drug music video sponsored by the Reagan administration. He first came to wide public notice as a Republican during the 1988 Presidential election, accompanying then-Vice President George H.W. Bush at a campaign rally.[56]
Schwarzenegger's first political appointment was as chairman of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports, on which he served from 1990 to 1993.[4] He was nominated by George H. W. Bush, who dubbed him "Conan the Republican". He later served as Chairman for the California Governor's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports under Governor Pete Wilson.
Between 1993 and 1994, Schwarzenegger was a Red Cross ambassador (a ceremonial role fulfilled by celebrities), recording several television/radio public service announcements to donate blood.
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Bottom line for me on all of this. I have no problem whatsoever with tax $$$ used to promote anything that is obviously "healthier" for you.
:thumsup:
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Show me in the constitution where the federal government has the authority to take my money and use it to "promote" your healthier eating habits??????
It may seem like just a little bit of money, but add it to the thousands upon thousands of other "just a little bit of money" projects and it adds up to some serious cash.
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You guys are obviously choosing to forget last years news. Federal school lunch mandates. Michelle. Google it. Total failure.
When they start telling what I can and cannot put in my kids lunch boxes, sorry but we have issues. Suggesting and mandating are two different things.
This is patently false. She tried to get healthier foods in lunches provided by public schools, yes. I think that's something that could and should be addressed.
No one was suggesting confiscating brownies out of kids' lunchboxes.
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This is patently false. She tried to get healthier foods in lunches provided by public schools, yes. I think that's something that could and should be addressed.
No one was suggesting confiscating brownies out of kids' lunchboxes.
Yes they were and are. Many proposals have been made to outlaw bringing your own lunch. Due to the mandated school lunch menus, many systems are losing money because the kids are not eating them and bringing their own lunch. In order to stop the schools from losing so much much money, it has been proposed that the answer is not letting them bring their own and forcing them to buy the school lunch.
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Yes they were and are. Many proposals have been made to outlaw bringing your own lunch. Due to the mandated school lunch menus, many systems are losing money because the kids are not eating them and bringing their own lunch. In order to stop the schools from losing so much much money, it has been proposed that the answer is not letting them bring their own and forcing them to buy the school lunch.
No they weren't and aren't.
Link to where Michelle Obama banned home packed lunches nationwide as part of a federal mandate?
The only case where this has ever happened was one school in one district in Chicago in 2011 that had nothing to do with the Obamas, or even any local government mandate.
You're trying to argue that some made up bullshit is a fact. :facepalm:
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This is patently false. She tried to get healthier foods in lunches provided by public schools, yes. I think that's something that could and should be addressed.
No one was suggesting confiscating brownies out of kids' lunchboxes.
Ummmm, yes. Yes they were.
School had rules on what had to be in brought-from-home lunchboxes.
PB&J, chips and a Little Debbie (staples of any lunchbox)? No.
No peanut butter because some jackass might be allergic to peanuts, walk by and fall face first into the sandwich.
Chips? Nope. Too much something or other unless they were whole grain chips.
Little Debbie? Nope. Too much fat.
Where were the apples, carrots and broccoli? You know, the things kids scrape off the lunch tray and into the garbage can.
Lunch bags brought from home had to meet standards or the kid would be forced to buy lunch ANYWAY.
Don't tell me it wasn't mandated. I've fought that particular battle.
And yes, she's fat. You could fit my entire wife in one of her enormous trunk legs.
(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/2433/slide_2433_31815_large.jpg)
She could smuggle the Cleveland Indians outfield in one butt cheek.
And she's uglier than Aunt Esther.
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Ummmm, yes. Yes they were.
School had rules on what had to be in brought-from-home lunchboxes.
PB&J, chips and a Little Debbie (staples of any lunchbox)? No.
No peanut butter because some jackass might be allergic to peanuts, walk by and fall face first into the sandwich.
Chips? Nope. Too much something or other unless they were whole grain chips.
Little Debbie? Nope. Too much fat.
Where were the apples, carrots and broccoli? You know, the things kids scrape off the lunch tray and into the garbage can.
Lunch bags brought from home had to meet standards or the kid would be forced to buy lunch ANYWAY.
Don't tell me it wasn't mandated. I've fought that particular battle.
And yes, she's fat. You could fit my entire wife in one of her enormous trunk legs.
(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/2433/slide_2433_31815_large.jpg)
She could smuggle the Cleveland Indians outfield in one butt cheek.
And she's uglier than Aunt Esther.
Link to this fantasy?
With all due respect, you're full of shit. There never is and never was any federal laws banning sacked lunches.
And all I can say to all this evidence of Obesity in Michelle Obama, is you're clearly looking at this from a biased angle. I'm sure you can find much more unflattering pictures in terms of body fat on most sex symbol celebrity/models if you try as hard as you guys are.
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Link to this fantasy?
With all due respect, you're full of shoot. There never is and never was any federal laws banning sacked lunches.
And all I can say to all this evidence of Obesity in Michelle Obama, is you're clearly looking at this from a biased angle. I'm sure you can find much more unflattering pictures in terms of body fat on most sex symbol celebrity/models if you try as hard as you guys are.
Federally mandated? I don't know.
Following federal guidelines? Maybe that was it. Home lunches had to meet certain standards or kids had to buy (or get free anyway).
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No they weren't and aren't.
Link to where Michelle Obama banned home packed lunches nationwide as part of a federal mandate?
The only case where this has ever happened was one school in one district in Chicago in 2011 that had nothing to do with the Obamas, or even any local government mandate.
You're trying to argue that some made up bullshit is a fact. :facepalm:
Nice how you worded that. And yes they were via the USDA and support from ag commish Vilsack. Her program was a highly pushed mandate that most schools across the country tried....at first. And it didnt end up being nearly as radical as her original mandate which did limit what foods they could bring. The schools mandated it and most have dropped the program now. A bill in congress actually limited the powers of the ag dept to force many of these stipulations. The original plan was to also eliminate pizza TOTALLY, and limit potato products to max of twice a week.
Students have revolted against even the watered down mandate. Watch the videos online. They are hardly fat students. Most are athletes who need those calories.
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I'm with Chad in this debate. Much larger things to be pissed about. I will say though, if any administration is serious about child obesity, they should start with putting a restriction on food stamps. EBT cards should not be allowed to be used in ANY convenience store. Also, there should be a list similar to WIC on what is allowed to be purchased on them.
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The biggest crime in all of this is the need for chaperones to walk to school in the first place. I walked/rode my bike to school from 1-5 grade and all I had for a chaperone was my older brother and all the other kids on the block.
It's a crying shame that the world is so dangerous now that we can't even let our kids walk to school by themselves
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I'm with Chad in this debate. Much larger things to be pissed about. I will say though, if any administration is serious about child obesity, they should start with putting a restriction on food stamps. EBT cards should not be allowed to be used in ANY convenience store. Also, there should be a list similar to WIC on what is allowed to be purchased on them.
Now why on earth would they want to piss of their constituents?
Yes much bigger things to be pissed about. Like gay marriage and the racist, George Zimmerman.
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I'm with Chad in this debate. Much larger things to be pissed about. I will say though, if any administration is serious about child obesity, they should start with putting a restriction on food stamps. EBT cards should not be allowed to be used in ANY convenience store. Also, there should be a list similar to WIC on what is allowed to be purchased on them.
I dunno, she's pretty large.
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The biggest crime in all of this is the need for chaperones to walk to school in the first place. I walked/rode my bike to school from 1-5 grade and all I had for a chaperone was my older brother and all the other kids on the block.
It's a crying shame that the world is so dangerous now that we can't even let our kids walk to school by themselves
Quiet minion. Barry and Michelle know what's best for you. And by God you're gonna do it!
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I dunno, she's pretty large.
She has Hillary legs
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I'm with Chad in this debate. Much larger things to be pissed about. I will say though, if any administration is serious about child obesity, they should start with putting a restriction on food stamps. EBT cards should not be allowed to be used in ANY convenience store. Also, there should be a list similar to WIC on what is allowed to be purchased on them.
I hate seeing food stamp cards being used to buy shit that I can't even afford to feed to my family. No reason lazy fuckers should be eating lobster on the govt dime.
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Screw school lunches. You never got big enough portions to matter anyway. Just take the damn X-Box controller thingy out of their hands, get them off the sofa and out of the house. I know because we struggle with that shipth every day. Every time we turn around, Mini-Snags is gone to the playroom, bag of potato chips in hand, head phones on and blowing some alien or zombie up with a little box with buttons on it. Get your ass out of the house, get on your bike, go down the street and get Devin and Jordan and play some football in the back yard. Jump on the trampoline. Shoot baskets in the driveway. Go fish down at the pond. Just put the damn joysticky controller thingy down and get off your ass.
Kids these days
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I hate seeing food stamp cards being used to buy shit that I can't even afford to feed to my family. No reason lazy fuckers should be eating lobster on the govt dime.
Was in a rough part of town one day about two weeks ago. Wanted a Gatorade (sorry Michelle I know it's too much sugar) since it was hot as hell outside that day. Only place was a shitty looking piggly wiggly so I stopped. Went and got what I came to get and went to the front to check out. Big hippo in front of me: 6 cases of grape soda, 3 boxes of little Debbie cakes, and 4-5 bags of frozen pre cooked fried shrimp. Went to pay and yep, on the govt dime. Taxpayer money well spent. This was also the middle of the day during lunch. She was not dressed like someone going back to work. Just saying. Looked over at the lines to the left and right of me. Same deal on those lines. It's like the place was a food stamp headquarters.
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Screw school lunches. You never got big enough portions to matter anyway. Just take the damn X-Box controller thingy out of their hands, get them off the sofa and out of the house. I know because we struggle with that shipth every day. Every time we turn around, Mini-Snags is gone to the playroom, bag of potato chips in hand, head phones on and blowing some alien or zombie up with a little box with buttons on it. Get your ass out of the house, get on your bike, go down the street and get Devin and Jordan and play some football in the back yard. Jump on the trampoline. Shoot baskets in the driveway. Go fish down at the pond. Just put the damn joysticky controller thingy down and get off your ass.
Kids these days
Sell the X Box daddy-o.
We did those things because there WAS no X-Box. TV was three channels. There was no computer. If we wanted to amuse ourselves we had to do it out in the real world.
We did a TV-free summer a couple of years ago. Kids were PISSED at first. But it was the best summer we've ever had. Tried it for a week this summer when we were out of town. Best decision ever.
Maybe I should turn it all off again.
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A few things.
#1. On Michelle Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm-_Cnyk3u0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm-_Cnyk3u0)
#2. I have an issue on anything that isn't spelled out in the Constitution not being turned over to states to decide. I have an issue with federal tax dollars being spent on this, just say no campaigns, to study the DNA of a grizzly bear...etc...etc...etc. If the state of Alabama wants to do a walking school bus campaign, then so be it, even though I wouldn't be happy about it, but it should never have federal dollars attached to it.
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A few things.
#1. On Michelle Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm-_Cnyk3u0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm-_Cnyk3u0)
#2. I have an issue on anything that isn't spelled out in the Constitution not being turned over to states to decide. I have an issue with federal tax dollars being spent on this, just say no campaigns, to study the DNA of a grizzly bear...etc...etc...etc. If the state of Alabama wants to do a walking school bus campaign, then so be it, even though I wouldn't be happy about it, but it should never have federal dollars attached to it.
It's like we're twins sometimes. Not sure why millions have to be spent to promote something worthy. Most of the time that method just wastes money with nothing to show
1 just say no. Failure
2 literacy campaign. More people fail hs grad exams than ever.
3 eat what I tell you to eat even though I look like a plump albatross? More fat kids and people than ever and getting worse by the year.
Screw psa's. Waste of money. Don't work. Lot of rhetoric. Not the fedgovs responsibility.
At least the first two were not aimed at making you do something. Moreless general, good advice.
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Sell the X Box daddy-o.
We did those things because there WAS no X-Box. TV was three channels. There was no computer. If we wanted to amuse ourselves we had to do it out in the real world.
We did a TV-free summer a couple of years ago. Kids were PISSED at first. But it was the best summer we've ever had. Tried it for a week this summer when we were out of town. Best decision ever.
Maybe I should turn it all off again.
Ed Zachary. All the entertainment choices are indoors. No reason whatsoever to get dirty and sweaty playing football down at Lee Chancellor's house, where the big azalea bush was one goal line and the mailbox was the other.
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Show me in the constitution where the federal government has the authority to take my money and use it to "promote" your healthier eating habits??????
It may seem like just a little bit of money, but add it to the thousands upon thousands of other "just a little bit of money" projects and it adds up to some serious cash.
From the website...that probably cost all of less than $25 to build and nothing to maintain...
What is a walking school bus?
A walking school bus is a group of children walking to school with one or more adults. If that sounds simple, it is, and that’s part of the beauty of the walking school bus. It can be as informal as two families taking turns walking their children to school to as structured as a route with meeting points, a timetable and a regularly rotated schedule of trained volunteers.
A variation on the walking school bus is the bicycle train, in which adults supervise children riding their bikes to school. The flexibility of the walking school bus makes it appealing to communities of all sizes with varying needs.
The biggest crime in all of this is the need for chaperones to walk to school in the first place. I walked/rode my bike to school from 1-5 grade and all I had for a chaperone was my older brother and all the other kids on the block.
It's a crying shame that the world is so dangerous now that we can't even let our kids walk to school by themselves
Also from that really expensive and evil one page website...
Parents often cite safety issues as one of the primary reasons they are reluctant to allow their children to walk to school. Providing adult supervision may help reduce those worries for families who live within walking or bicycling distance to school.
Again...I don't see what the big deal is...
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So a trained volunteer is trained by whom? Gubment money will be spent somewhere.
But I'm all in if they can train the volunteers to get all of the people chanting boom-chucka-lucka the whole way to school!
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So a trained volunteer is trained by whom? Gubment money will be spent somewhere.
But I'm all in if they can train the volunteers to get all of the people chanting boom-chucka-lucka the whole way to school!
Not sure how much training is needed to cross the street...but whatever...
Of all the shit to gripe about government spending...this ain't one of them...
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Not sure how much training is needed to cross the street...but whatever...
Of all the shit to gripe about government spending...this ain't one of them...
What about the boom-chucka-lucka?
You think that is doable? I could sign off on it then.
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From the website...that probably cost all of less than $25 to build and nothing to maintain...
Also from that really expensive and evil one page website...
Again...I don't see what the big deal is...
I beg you to show me one federal program that has ever only cost $25. Wait til they start running ads to promote the "walking school bus" during the next super bowl.
Hell it won't be long before there is a Czar of the walking school bus department
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What about the boom-chucka-lucka?
You think that is doable? I could sign off on it then.
Boom shaka-laka is acceptable. Chucka-lucka has been tried already and was a huge waste of taxpayer dollars.
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Most cities already have crossing guards who volunteer mornings and afternoons. It will literally cost nothing. When schools are forced to cut bus transportation and children are forced to walk to school because of a federal mandate, then we should start formings angry mobs.
Until then....Im going to stick to being pissed that I cant afford a $400,000 home in a gated community BECAUSE I make too much money, and Im not a minority.
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What about the boom-chucka-lucka?
You think that is doable? I could sign off on it then.
I'm pretty sure "the roach is on the wall" will make the cut.
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Boom shaka-laka is acceptable. Chucka-lucka has been tried already and was a huge waste of taxpayer dollars.
I don't know, but I've been told
Michelle's ass is worth more than gold
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Seriously, there is so much dumb in this thread, I can't even address it all.
But I'll try.
Nice how you worded that. And yes they were via the USDA and support from ag commish Vilsack. Her program was a highly pushed mandate that most schools across the country tried....at first. And it didnt end up being nearly as radical as her original mandate which did limit what foods they could bring. The schools mandated it and most have dropped the program now. A bill in congress actually limited the powers of the ag dept to force many of these stipulations. The original plan was to also eliminate pizza TOTALLY, and limit potato products to max of twice a week.
BULL. FUCKING. SHIT.
Show me a link. There was exactly one school that tried anything like this and it had fuck all to do with the government. You are lying about this based on some Glen-Beck-Orwellian fantasy perception of the Obamas takin' our freedoms. It is not based in reality whatsoever. I don't know what else to say besides you're lying.
All of this has gone pretty far to move off of the topic of how outrageous this "human school bus" thing is to some of you. Not only have we moved on to other aspects of the FLOTUS's campaign for better child health, we've now entered fantasy science fiction accounts of the government confiscating potato chips out of kids' lunchboxes, which is so beyond absurd I seriously can't believe an adult is making that claim, and believes it to be true.
The biggest crime in all of this is the need for chaperones to walk to school in the first place. I walked/rode my bike to school from 1-5 grade and all I had for a chaperone was my older brother and all the other kids on the block.
It's a crying shame that the world is so dangerous now that we can't even let our kids walk to school by themselves
THANKS OBAMA!!! Love to see the logic that says this is Obama's fault. Your post proves exactly that this is not some radical leftist agenda, this used to be called common sense. The chaperone is a bonus for parents to be able to feel safe walking to school if they don't already. It should go without saying at all, but for the 100th time, this is in no way a mandate or required in any way, shape, or form. You don't like it. Drive your kids to school.
#2. I have an issue on anything that isn't spelled out in the Constitution not being turned over to states to decide. I have an issue with federal tax dollars being spent on this, just say no campaigns, to study the DNA of a grizzly bear...etc...etc...etc. If the state of Alabama wants to do a walking school bus campaign, then so be it, even though I wouldn't be happy about it, but it should never have federal dollars attached to it.
WTF are you talking about? The states decide what?? This is not a requirement. The government is not requiring any school to do it, let alone your child participate it should your child's school choose to do this. We have gone into looney-bin territory with this thing.
This entails some commercials and endorsements. This is not a multi-billion dollar waste of money. It's actually productive to promote childhood fitness, which is a major problem in our country right now, and it costs next to zero money. You literally have to be an insane person to make the argument that this is government intruding on our everyday life.
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So, someone please explain to me, how they think this will cost the government MORE money for a parent of a kid to VOLUNTEER to walk a corral of kids to school every day, compared to training and paying a bus driver, let alone buying a bus, paying for gas for that bus, and regular automotive maintenance for said bus. Roughly 50-75 kids ride each bus. For every 50-75 kids that walk to school instead, they are saving thousands on all of those costs by eliminating one bus.
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So, someone please explain to me, how they think this will cost the government MORE money for a parent of a kid to VOLUNTEER to walk a corral of kids to school every day, compared to training and paying a bus driver, let alone buying a bus, paying for gas for that bus, and regular automotive maintenance for said bus. Roughly 50-75 kids ride each bus. For every 50-75 kids that walk to school instead, they are saving thousands on all of those costs by eliminating one bus.
If this is not a gov't requirement, then some kids will continue to ride the bus. There goes all your savings on not having to train the driver and buy the bus :poke:
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Seriously, there is so much dumb in this thread, I can't even address it all.
But I'll try.
BULL. fudgeING. shoot.
Show me a link. There was exactly one school that tried anything like this and it had fudge all to do with the government. You are lying about this based on some Glen-Beck-Orwellian fantasy perception of the Obamas takin' our freedoms. It is not based in reality whatsoever. I don't know what else to say besides you're lying.
All of this has gone pretty far to move off of the topic of how outrageous this "human school bus" thing is to some of you. Not only have we moved on to other aspects of the FLOTUS's campaign for better child health, we've now entered fantasy science fiction accounts of the government confiscating potato chips out of kids' lunchboxes, which is so beyond absurd I seriously can't believe an adult is making that claim, and believes it to be true.
THANKS OBAMA!!! Love to see the logic that says this is Obama's fault. Your post proves exactly that this is not some radical leftist agenda, this used to be called common sense. The chaperone is a bonus for parents to be able to feel safe walking to school if they don't already. It should go without saying at all, but for the 100th time, this is in no way a mandate or required in any way, shape, or form. You don't like it. Drive your kids to school.
WTF are you talking about? The states decide what?? This is not a requirement. The government is not requiring any school to do it, let alone your child participate it should your child's school choose to do this. We have gone into looney-bin territory with this thing.
This entails some commercials and endorsements. This is not a multi-billion dollar waste of money. It's actually productive to promote childhood fitness, which is a major problem in our country right now, and it costs next to zero money. You literally have to be an insane person to make the argument that this is government intruding on our everyday life.
I wish I still had the note from my daughter's third or fourth grade teacher telling us the lunch we'd sent was unacceptable. It had a sandwich, some chips and a Little Debbie brownie because that's what she liked. Wrong said school. What she likes is irrelevant.
Lunch had to include fruit/vegetables and the proper this and that. Since we didn't include the staples in her lunch, she had been provided a tray from the lunchroom and we would need to pay for it and any other trays necessary because her home lunch didn't meet guidelines.
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Not sure how much training is needed to cross the street...but whatever...
Of all the shit to gripe about government spending...this ain't one of them...
The attempt to turn her crusade into a mandate, imposed upon the rest of the public, while at the same time she doesn't practice what she preaches, is more my issue. It's a microcosm of the big picture problem with our govt and it's nanny state mentality. Its people who think like this that are the problem. Guarantee you that if she COULD she would with this too. You can think this is an innocent little crusade all you want. With people that are disciples of their form of govt nothing is innocent.
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THANKS OBAMA!!! Love to see the logic that says this is Obama's fault. Your post proves exactly that this is not some radical leftist agenda, this used to be called common sense. The chaperone is a bonus for parents to be able to feel safe walking to school if they don't already. It should go without saying at all, but for the 100th time, this is in no way a mandate or required in any way, shape, or form. You don't like it. Drive your kids to school.
Never said it was Obama's fault. Just said it was sad. Could be the moral decline in society, could be the decline of god in our society, who knows?
But I'm sure you can cite other things that are more to blame
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Seriously, there is so much dumb in this thread, I can't even address it all.
But I'll try.
BULL. FUCKING. SHIT.
Show me a link. There was exactly one school that tried anything like this and it had fuck all to do with the government. You are lying about this based on some Glen-Beck-Orwellian fantasy perception of the Obamas takin' our freedoms. It is not based in reality whatsoever. I don't know what else to say besides you're lying.
All of this has gone pretty far to move off of the topic of how outrageous this "human school bus" thing is to some of you. Not only have we moved on to other aspects of the FLOTUS's campaign for better child health, we've now entered fantasy science fiction accounts of the government confiscating potato chips out of kids' lunchboxes, which is so beyond absurd I seriously can't believe an adult is making that claim, and believes it to be true.
THANKS OBAMA!!! Love to see the logic that says this is Obama's fault. Your post proves exactly that this is not some radical leftist agenda, this used to be called common sense. The chaperone is a bonus for parents to be able to feel safe walking to school if they don't already. It should go without saying at all, but for the 100th time, this is in no way a mandate or required in any way, shape, or form. You don't like it. Drive your kids to school.
WTF are you talking about? The states decide what?? This is not a requirement. The government is not requiring any school to do it, let alone your child participate it should your child's school choose to do this. We have gone into looney-bin territory with this thing.
This entails some commercials and endorsements. This is not a multi-billion dollar waste of money. It's actually productive to promote childhood fitness, which is a major problem in our country right now, and it costs next to zero money. You literally have to be an insane person to make the argument that this is government intruding on our everyday life.
No. Dumb is your math skills. Dumb is your initial logic used in the zimmerman case.
And I have no idea what you are talking about with Glen Beck. I dont exactly follow the guy these days. But ok.
You do know that the fedgov gave schools more funding if they participated right? It was subsidized. Even after that most have abandoned it. Wasn't worth it.
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Never said it was Obama's fault. Just said it was sad. Could be the moral decline in society, could be the decline of god in our society, who knows?
But I'm sure you can cite other things that are more to blame
No question it's been in decline for some time. No question it's 100X more dangerous and I'm not sure why or what happened. Going back to the "When we were kids" theme, if we wanted to get anywhere, that's what a Schwinn 10-speed was for. School was several miles away when I was in elementary school. Load your back pack and start pedaling if you want to be on time. Parents let us roam the neighborhood, go and do what we wanted without fear of getting abducted or worse. Just be back home by the designated time. I don't have a problem with my boy heading a few streets over to meet other kids in the neighborhood. But letting him have the freedoms to go unsupervised the way we were at his age is totally out of the question.
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The attempt to turn her crusade into a mandate, imposed upon the rest of the public, while at the same time she doesn't practice what she preaches, is more my issue. It's a microcosm of the big picture problem with our govt and it's nanny state mentality. Its people who think like this that are the problem. Guarantee you that if she COULD she would with this too. You can think this is an innocent little crusade all you want. With people that are disciples of their form of govt nothing is innocent.
Bingo
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000881059/obama_why_so_socialist_answer_1_xlarge.jpeg)
Rosa Parks was just a little old lady with sore feet.
You have to dig for the truth, but it's there.
Myles Falls Horton (July 9, 1905 – January 19, 1990)[1] was an American educator, socialist and cofounder of the Highlander Folk School, famous for its role in the Civil Rights Movement
Highlander has provided training and education for the labor movement in Appalachia and throughout the Southern United States. During the 1950s, it played a critical role in the American Civil Rights Movement. It trained civil rights leader Rosa Parks prior to her historic role in the Montgomery Bus Boycott.
Parks worked as a housekeeper and seamstress for Clifford and Virginia Durr, a white couple. Politically liberal, the Durrs became her friends. They encouraged—and eventually helped sponsor—Parks in the summer of 1955 to attend the Highlander Folk School,
Durr was born into a patrician Alabama family. After studying at the University of Alabama he went to Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar. He returned to the United States to study law, then joined a prominent law firm in Birmingham, Alabama in 1924. In 1926 he married Virginia Foster, whose sister would be the first wife of Hugo Black.
Cliff's brother-in-law, Black, then a Senator, asked him to come to Washington, D.C. to interview for a job with the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, the agency charged with recapitalizing banks and trusts. Durr took the job, becoming a dedicated New Dealer in the process.
...their friendship with Jessica Mitford, a member of the Communist Party, made both of them even more suspect. The FBI stepped up its interest in Durr in 1949, when he joined the National Lawyers Guild. He subsequently became the President of the Guild.
Little things have consequences. Especially when they're scripted little things.
And Michelle Obama is still as fat as jabba and as ugly as the butt end of a buffalo.
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Bingo
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000881059/obama_why_so_socialist_answer_1_xlarge.jpeg)
Rosa Parks was just a little old lady with sore feet.
You have to dig for the truth, but it's there.
Little things have consequences. Especially when they're scripted little things.
And Michelle Obama is still as fat as jabba and as ugly as the butt end of a buffalo.
Those facts conflict with preconceived notions though. Not real convenient.
A post that lumps us in with bottomfeeder and Alex Jones in 5....4....3...
No worries Chizad. They aren't fractions.
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I wish I still had the note from my daughter's third or fourth grade teacher telling us the lunch we'd sent was unacceptable. It had a sandwich, some chips and a Little Debbie brownie because that's what she liked. Wrong said school. What she likes is irrelevant.
Lunch had to include fruit/vegetables and the proper this and that. Since we didn't include the staples in her lunch, she had been provided a tray from the lunchroom and we would need to pay for it and any other trays necessary because her home lunch didn't meet guidelines.
That was her hippie dippie teacher. Again, it had Jack Shit to do with Michelle Obama. Let alone Human School Buses.
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The attempt to turn her crusade into a mandate, imposed upon the rest of the public, while at the same time she doesn't practice what she preaches, is more my issue. It's a microcosm of the big picture problem with our govt and it's nanny state mentality. Its people who think like this that are the problem. Guarantee you that if she COULD she would with this too. You can think this is an innocent little crusade all you want. With people that are disciples of their form of govt nothing is innocent.
Ok bottomfeeder...
:facepalm:
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This thread has left sanity in the dust. Jesus Christ. All this because Michelle Obama is trying to encourage kids to exercise.
I give up.
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Ok bottomfeeder...
:facepalm:
Much obliged.
No worries Chizad. Ill still hook you up with a free 6 pack of Busch Light at the next x gate. That's what you drink right? Or is that cousin Eddies mead?
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Much obliged.
No worries Chizad. Ill still hook you up with a free 6 pack of Busch Light at the next x gate. That's what you drink right? Or is that cousin Eddies mead?
Not mine. If I'm drinkin cheap. I'm a Miller-Coors guy.
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Not mine. If I'm drinkin cheap. I'm a Miller-Coors guy.
Snob
Miller-Coors is the good stuff.
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Snob
Miller-Coors is the good stuff.
Maybe he means it's the good cheap stuff as opposed to Bud, Natty, Busch or the champ - Beast.
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This thread has left sanity in the dust. Jesus Christ. All this because Michelle Obama is trying to encourage kids to exercise.
I give up.
Wait a minute.....If you don't believe in him can you use his name? I'm gonna need a ruling from the chapel.
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Wait a minute.....If you don't believe in him can you use his name? I'm gonna need a ruling from the chapel.
He believes he existed. He just doesn't believe he did cool tricks and stuff.
I have notated before that I find it funny that Chizzy Chad posts more in the chapel than anyone else on here.
So would he provide the ruling?
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Maybe he means it's the good cheap stuff as opposed to Bud, Natty, Busch or the champ - Beast.
Correct.
Wait a minute.....If you don't believe in him can you use his name? I'm gonna need a ruling from the chapel.
Only in vain.
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Or is that cousin Eddies mead?
Not mine. If I'm drinkin cheap. I'm a Miller-Coors guy.
You haven't lived until you've had the mead. And after you have as much as Buzz did, you don't much want live.
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That was her hippie dippie teacher. Again, it had Jack shoot to do with Michelle Obama. Let alone Human School Buses.
No. It was the school. Following federal guidelines.
I fought this fight already. Lost on the pb&j. Peanut allergy my butt. But won the rest.
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No. It was the school. Following federal guidelines.
I fought this fight already. Lost on the pb&j. Peanut allergy my butt. But won the rest.
Should have put a tomato on her sandwich, for the fruit/veggie points
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Seriously, there is so much dumb in this thread, I can't even address it all.
But I'll try.
WTF are you talking about? The states decide what?? This is not a requirement. The government is not requiring any school to do it, let alone your child participate it should your child's school choose to do this. We have gone into looney-bin territory with this thing.
This entails some commercials and endorsements. This is not a multi-billion dollar waste of money. It's actually productive to promote childhood fitness, which is a major problem in our country right now, and it costs next to zero money. You literally have to be an insane person to make the argument that this is government intruding on our everyday life.
Damn sure is and you are a part of it.
I thought you were a Libertarian, but I must be wrong. I know it's not a mandate, I know they aren't requiring me to participate, but, FEDERAL FUCKING DOLLARS HAVE BEEN SPENT ON THIS GODDAMN SHIT!!!! I don't care if it's one penny or eleventy billion dollars. It's too goddamn much! This is as stupid as Obama telling me how to cover my mouth when I cough and how to sneeze into a tissue during the swine flu scare. It's as dumb as the Australian gov't putting out that "dumb ways to die" video on how to be safe around trains (I found that hilarious, but still).
Our federal gov't doesn't need to be involved in promoting jack dick on how to live our lives. I can decide the health and saftey of my kids by telling them to put the fucking controller down and go play some ball so they aren't disgusting fat bodies and to look both ways before crossing the street. The federal gov't doesn't have the right nor the responsibility to spend money on these dumbass issues. If the state of Alabama, Georgia, Alaska, North Dakota want to spend "state tax dollars" on this kind of bullshit, then fine, let their legislators vote on it, I can gladly vote mine out of office. That is what I mean by letting the states decide. No where in our Constitution (that has been used by our politicians to wipe their asses with since the 1920's) does it specifically state that the federal government get involved with our personal lives and how we raise our families. One penny is too much to spend on this shit, along with the other examples in my other post, especially when we are fucking bankrupt. It's dumb, simple as that and it's dumb that our federal gov't spent one fucking cent on it. I am not up in arms as some are about this, I know that we have bigger fish to fry, but this is a prime example of our gov't spending money they don't need to.
Also, for the lulz and :facepalm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw)
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Damn sure is and you are a part of it.
I thought you were a Libertarian, but I must be wrong.
I am a free thinker. But yes, for the most part I am a libertarian...not a psychopath.
I guess in your estimation, a true libertarian believes the government should spend $0 on anything ever.
I didn't see the Cato or Reason raising a stink over this. Because libertarians don't loathe Democrats to the point that they are blinded with rage over petty shit like this.
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I am a free thinker. But yes, for the most part I am a libertarian...not a psychopath.
I guess in your estimation, a true libertarian believes the government should spend $0 on anything ever.
I didn't see the Cato or Reason raising a stink over this. Because libertarians don't loathe Democrats to the point that they are blinded with rage over petty shit like this.
Nope, not what "we" believe. "We" just believe that zero federal (and state for that matter) dollars should be spent on telling us how to live. "Our" problem resides in an over reaching goverment telling us what to do. Government has basic, limited functions and this is not one of them. The penney, ten dollars, or million dollars spent on this should have been spent on things like balancing our budget. Every little bit helps. Step the fuck off and let me choose what me and mine do. The government is not a better steward of my money than I am and I am intelligent enough to do what is best for me and my family including how spend our money and raise our kids.
"We" take offense at a government who spends the money I earn on anything like this that is not within their realm and tries to tell "us" how to live. I have rage against both parties but more so at the one that thinks I need big government involved in my personal affairs. I will let you decide which one, at times I can't tell anymore.
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I am a free thinker. But yes, for the most part I am a libertarian...not a psychopath.
I guess in your estimation, a true libertarian believes the government should spend $0 on anything ever.
I didn't see the Cato or Reason raising a stink over this. Because libertarians don't loathe Democrats to the point that they are blinded with rage over petty shit like this.
Only the fringe, bottomfeeder, 5%, that are anarcho's who give the rest of us a bad name.
Cato and Reason aren't raising stink about this b/c as I have stated, we have bigger fish to fry, but they should be. It's a waste of Federal dollars by telking us how to keep our kids from being obese that I can do on my own. One penney or one million, its a waste of tax payers dollars. Period. Leave this shit to the ladies auxiliary or local Lions club. Get the feds out of my shit and let them worry about a 14 trillion dollar debt, NSA spying on citizens, Immigration, IRS targets and taxing me for inactivity (Obamacare) and not if my kids get to school safely and lose weight in the process.
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No. It was the school. Following federal guidelines.
I fought this fight already. Lost on the pb&j. Peanut allergy my butt. But won the rest.
I used to think the same way you do...
Got a good friend whose daughter has a peanut allergy. She gets looks all the time from kids because they suspended peanut butter in her class room. She can't help it. If someone eats peanut butter at lunch, and she gets close enough to them to smell their breath later on in the class, she will go in to shock and possibly die.
That shit is real and it sucks for the parents and kids who have it...
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Only the fringe, bottomfeeder, 5%, that are anarcho's who give the rest of us a bad name.
Cato and Reason aren't raising stink about this b/c as I have stated, we have bigger fish to fry, but they should be. It's a waste of Federal dollars by telking us how to keep our kids from being obese that I can do on my own. One penney or one million, its a waste of tax payers dollars. Period. Leave this shitntomthe ladies auxiliary or local Lions club. Get the feds out of my shit and let them worry about a 14 trillion dollar debt, NSA spying on citizens, Immigration, IRS targets and taxing me for inactivity (Obamacare) and not if my kids get to school safely and lose weight in the process.
This guy^^
Fed gov has 3-4 basic functions per our framework. That's it. It's not hard. This is not one of them.
They are already subsidizing school lunches. If they participate in her guidelines, they get even more in addition to other perks. Even with extra dough, most have ditched it. More money being thrown at the issue. Less results. Any hard working person in this country who pays a shitload of taxes every payday has every right to question this kind of expenditure especially of no result is being seen and/or or not even being Constititional.
Chad, you say you independently think yet you reference others' opinions on the Gorewebbz to form yours. Usually I do agree with the Cato group but it doesn't mean I have to. Forming an independent opinion is just that. It's yours without regard to what a think tank says.
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I used to think the same way you do...
Got a good friend whose daughter has a peanut allergy. She gets looks all the time from kids because they suspended peanut butter in her class room. She can't help it. If someone eats peanut butter at lunch, and she gets close enough to them to smell their breath later on in the class, she will go in to shock and possibly die.
That shit is real and it sucks for the parents and kids who have it...
So engineer society around the exceptions?
This causes a slippery slope. You've just punished the rule for the exception. Not saying the poor kid should have to deal with it. It can just be dealt with other than to cut off the nose to spite the face.
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So engineer society around the exceptions?
This causes a slippery slope. You've just punished the rule for the exception. Not saying the poor kid should have to deal with it. It can just be dealt with other than to cut off the nose to spite the face.
I blame George Washington Carver.
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Chad, you say you independently think yet you reference others' opinions on the Gorewebbz to form yours. Usually I do agree with the Cato group but it doesn't mean I have to. Forming an independent opinion is just that. It's yours without regard to what a think tank says.
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I am an independent thinker. I don't need Cato or Reason, or the Republican party, or the Democratic party, or Fox News or MSNBC or anyone else to spoonfeed me my opinion.
I'm just saying, if I'm being accused of not being purely libertarian enough (which, by the way, I don't care), because I'm not OUTRAGED that the first lady of the United States decided that her cause would be to try to get kids to eat better and exercise more, that is the opinion of a crazy person, and NOT any libertarian politician, think tank, or editorialist that I have ever heard.
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:facepalm:
I am an independent thinker. I don't need Cato or Reason, or the Republican party, or the Democratic party, or Fox News or MSNBC or anyone else to spoonfeed me my opinion.
I'm just saying, if I'm being accused of not being purely libertarian enough (which, by the way, I don't care), because I'm not OUTRAGED that the first lady of the United States decided that her cause would be to try to get kids to eat better and exercise more, that is the opinion of a crazy person, and NOT any libertarian politician, think tank, or editorialist that I have ever heard.
Def agree on first part. If I did that I (and I think Aut1 too) wouldn't have agreed with you and Wes, and disagreed with garman and tarheel - on legalizing pot. Foxnews and the mainstream GOP would fry us over that stance. The main social issue I don't buckle on in regards to the right is abortion. I will never be in favor of it and it's a personal thing, not religious.
Even if I do agree with fox news on an issue, I certainly will not use them as backup. Not their opinion anyway. Maybe as a reference for a simple new or fact story. Jon Stossel is one of their better people to me. Worth listening to.
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So engineer society around the exceptions?
This causes a slippery slope. You've just punished the rule for the exception. Not saying the poor kid should have to deal with it. It can just be dealt with other than to cut off the nose to spite the face.
All I'm saying is be fucking courteous.....
God damn.....
What, since you have all the god damn answers, would you have the school or classroom do? Separating them from eating lunch doesn't work because I just told you if she smells it on the breath of a child hours after eating, she could die. But by god...let's not make a god damn rule to save a fucking child because my little sally wants her PB&J...
By my calculation, little Sally can have a fucking PB&J for 16 meals out of 21 weekly meals if she wants to....
Some of you fuckers will argue senseless shit just to fucking argue....
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:facepalm:
I am an independent thinker. I don't need Cato or Reason, or the Republican party, or the Democratic party, or Fox News or MSNBC or anyone else to spoonfeed me my opinion.
I'm just saying, if I'm being accused of not being purely libertarian enough (which, by the way, I don't care), because I'm not OUTRAGED that the first lady of the United States decided that her cause would be to try to get kids to eat better and exercise more, that is the opinion of a crazy person, and NOT any libertarian politician, think tank, or editorialist that I have ever heard.
I know you are pretty much a full blow Libertarian, that was a little sarcasm on my part. I am not outraged that the first lady took up this cause. I am not outraged by any cause that any fist lady takes up. All are worthy causes. However, I am pissed off that we have spent federal dollars on it. Period. That is my only issue with this. The federal government has no right to spend my tax dollars on this kind of thing, amongst many others, to tell us how and what we should do when it comes to our personal lives.
I know you think I am bitching b/c it's Obama's wife, but I am not. I bitched about Laura and her National Anthem Project and lets not pretend like No Child Left Behind was all W's idea that he got Boehner, Miller, Gregg and Kennedy to push through congress. There was a lot of her influence behind it. I don't like it one bit that one little cent of my hard earned tax money goes to this when we have a $14 trillion debt. Now, if we had a $14 trillion surplus, then I might could be persuaded to spend a little on something like this, but I doubt it. I just don't see where this falls under the realm of the federal government. As stated, this isn't that big of a deal compared to everything else, but it's not something that I am willing to look past either. We need to move on to the big fish, fry them first and then come back to the small amounts of money that are being spent.
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Def agree on first part. If I did that I (and I think Aut1 too) wouldn't have agreed with you and Wes, and disagreed with garman and tarheel - on legalizing pot. Foxnews and the mainstream GOP would fry us over that stance. The main social issue I don't buckle on in regards to the right is abortion. I will never be in favor of it and it's a personal thing, not religious.
Even if I do agree with fox news on an issue, I certainly will not use them as backup. Not their opinion anyway. Maybe as a reference for a simple new or fact story. Jon Stossel is one of their better people to me. Worth listening to.
Yup, I am all for legalization of pot. Hell, I don't see an issue with making them all legal. Regulate it and tax it like we do alcohol and sell it a the local liquor stores/head shops. If you get in your car high and kill someone, minimum 30 years for vehicular manslaughter, no questions asked. Between this and passing a Fair/National Sales tax with a VAT added on to anything bought outside of the US, we could have a surplus in no time and my kids wouldn't have to be stuck with taking a bite out of the shit sandwich we have now.
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Yup, I am all for legalization of pot. Hell, I don't see an issue with making them all legal. Regulate it and tax it like we do alcohol and sell it a the local liquor stores/head shops. If you get in your car high and kill someone, minimum 30 years for vehicular manslaughter, no questions asked. Between this and passing a Fair/National Sales tax with a VAT added on to anything bought outside of the US, we could have a surplus in no time and my kids wouldn't have to be stuck with taking a bite out of the shit sandwich we have now.
See, this is an example of me not being an "extreme" libertarian.
I'm open to the idea of legalizing other drugs after pot. But am far from sold. The science is out on pot that it is far less harmful than alcohol and many other unbanned substances. That's why it's clearly the subject of this debate, and not, say heroine. If it could be proved that people could use heroine responsibly, I'd be all for legalization of that as well, but they can't prove that because it's not true. People die on the reg from heroine ODs. It's best to leave that out of the hands of society, and I can see that because I'm reasonable. Perfect example of not letting your ideology, even libertarianism, overrule your reason.
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All I'm saying is be fucking courteous.....
God damn.....
What, since you have all the god damn answers, would you have the school or classroom do? Separating them from eating lunch doesn't work because I just told you if she smells it on the breath of a child hours after eating, she could die. But by god...let's not make a god damn rule to save a fucking child because my little sally wants her PB&J...
By my calculation, little Sally can have a fucking PB&J for 16 meals out of 21 weekly meals if she wants to....
Some of you fuckers will argue senseless shit just to fucking argue....
You command an emotion driven bus of an argument.
What kind of person purposely goes up to and/or makes contact with something they are deathly allergic to?
Btw, allergic peanut reactions based off smell is a total myth. But one used by parents to get peanut products banned from their kids classrooms as Kaos eluded to. Death from the smell of peanut butter is total horseshit.
http://www.allergyhome.org/can-the-smell-of-peanut-butter-cause-an-allergic-reaction/
Even it were scientifically possible, someone THAT sickly and highly allergic to things wouldn't be in a normal classroom setting anyway. You're talking boy in the bubble shit at that point.
Anyway, not the big point. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees because of your high strung emotional argument. It's a lot of PC politics in this shit and it's politics many don't like. God forbid someone have an opinion and dare say this is a microcosm of what's wrong with the entire friggin country.
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See, this is an example of me not being an "extreme" libertarian.
I'm open to the idea of legalizing other drugs after pot. But am far from sold. The science is out on pot that it is far less harmless than alcohol and many other unbanned substances. That's why it's clearly the subject of this debate, and not, say heroine. If it could be proved that people could use heroine responsibly, I'd be all for legalization of that as well, but they can't prove that because it's not true. People die on the reg from heroine ODs. It's best to leave that out of the hands of society, and I can see that because I'm reasonable. Perfect example of not letting your ideology, even libertarianism, overrule your reason.
Kind of with you on the hard stuff. Not sure there is any safe way to practice the use of heroin or meth. Pot can be recreational and harmless. Which is why it would have limits and rules just like alcohol and being under the influence.
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See, this is an example of me not being an "extreme" libertarian.
I'm open to the idea of legalizing other drugs after pot. But am far from sold. The science is out on pot that it is far less harmless than alcohol and many other unbanned substances. That's why it's clearly the subject of this debate, and not, say heroine. If it could be proved that people could use heroine responsibly, I'd be all for legalization of that as well, but they can't prove that because it's not true. People die on the reg from heroine ODs. It's best to leave that out of the hands of society, and I can see that because I'm reasonable. Perfect example of not letting your ideology, even libertarianism, overrule your reason.
Kind of with you on the hard stuff. Not sure there is any safe way to practice the use of heroin or meth. Pot can be recreational and harmless. Which is why it would have limits and rules just like alcohol and being under the influence.
I guess legalization isn't the right word to use. Decriminalization should be the word to use there. I can see your reasoning too.
I can also see this reasoning: http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Misc/lp-rld.htm (http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Misc/lp-rld.htm)
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/libertarianism.html#B6 (http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/libertarianism.html#B6)
http://www.policymic.com/articles/1017/libertarianism-at-core-of-drug-legalization (http://www.policymic.com/articles/1017/libertarianism-at-core-of-drug-legalization)
http://www.businessinsider.com/portugal-drug-policy-decriminalization-works-2012-7 (http://www.businessinsider.com/portugal-drug-policy-decriminalization-works-2012-7)
We should take the model that Portugal has used, tweak and build on it to make it better. The results of what they are doing seems to indicate that it's working.
EDIT: In Portugals case I don't like the fact that once again federal funding is used to help get addicts clean, but then again, I think this is a states right issue and the states should determine said policies. There is where it's needs tweaking, but I think you can come up with a universal policy that all the states could use.
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Btw, allergic peanut reactions based off smell is a total myth. But one used by parents to get peanut products banned from their kids classrooms as Kaos eluded to. Death from the smell of peanut butter is total horseshit.
Thank you for saving me the typing.
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If the bitch got the Jiff breath, she bettah brush them choppers.
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You command an emotion driven bus of an argument.
What kind of person purposely goes up to and/or makes contact with something they are deathly allergic to?
Btw, allergic peanut reactions based off smell is a total myth. But one used by parents to get peanut products banned from their kids classrooms as Kaos eluded to. Death from the smell of peanut butter is total horseshit.
http://www.allergyhome.org/can-the-smell-of-peanut-butter-cause-an-allergic-reaction/
Even it were scientifically possible, someone THAT sickly and highly allergic to things wouldn't be in a normal classroom setting anyway. You're talking boy in the bubble shit at that point.
Anyway, not the big point. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees because of your high strung emotional argument. It's a lot of PC politics in this shit and it's politics many don't like. God forbid someone have an opinion and dare say this is a microcosm of what's wrong with the entire friggin country.
So maybe I am wrong about the breath thing. That is just what they have told me. She has the worst case scenario of this. Period.
However, my point still remains the same. And you make the point for me. "What kind of person goes up and purposely makes contact with something they are allergic too?" Answer. No one. But they are kids. And kids are messy and don't know if they are doing something on purpose or not. Which is why it would be common courtesy to just not have peanut butter in the classroom.
I am not calling for an outright ban on peanut butter. I am not driving an emotionally charged bus. I am simply saying, that little sally not having a PB&J for lunch...at school...is not the fucking worse thing in the world...and like the walking bus, is not a microcosm of what this country is coming to...
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So maybe I am wrong about the breath thing. That is just what they have told me. She has the worst case scenario of this. Period.
However, my point still remains the same. And you make the point for me. "What kind of person goes up and purposely makes contact with something they are allergic too?" Answer. No one. But they are kids. And kids are messy and don't know if they are doing something on purpose or not. Which is why it would be common courtesy to just not have peanut butter in the classroom.
I am not calling for an outright ban on peanut butter. I am not driving an emotionally charged bus. I am simply saying, that little sally not having a PB&J for lunch...at school...is not the fucking worse thing in the world...and like the walking bus, is not a microcosm of what this country is coming to...
Sure but if you are not going to attempt the small things what makes you think anyone can do more with the large ones. You said yourself that it's a microcosm of what is happening to the country. So while I applaud everyone being aware of the large problems confronting our society, do you not think that the day to day person has to fight the smaller battles that they can actually affect, thus setting the stage for the larger ones to be fought?
To use the words of the hippies, "think globally, act locally".
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We don't worry about folks who think Icehouse is keen.
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My daughter has a really bad peanut allergy. School didn't want her to carry her epipen in her backback, or carry with her at lunch. We went into principal's office and told him that if she ingests peanuts, it could kill her, and that the minutes it would take to get the epipen from the school nurse were precious. He backed off, allows her to carry it with her at all times.
Her allergy is so bad that if I eat peanuts, and I give her a kiss on her cheek, you can see my lip prints on her cheek. Have we totally changed our diet? Well, I don't eat PB&J sandwiches any more. Do I get mad if some kid eats it next to her? No. But I tell my daughter to understand that she really has to watch what she eats. If my niece eats a PB&J and comes over to play, I make her wash her hands. I can't control what other kids do, I can only control what my kid is exposed to.
That being said, I hate all you fuckers that make peanut cookies and have your kids bring them into class to give out to your kids classmates. Heartless fucks.
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My kid loves peanut brittle.
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All I'm saying is be fudgeing courteous.....
God damn.....
What, since you have all the god damn answers, would you have the school or classroom do? Separating them from eating lunch doesn't work because I just told you if she smells it on the breath of a child hours after eating, she could die. But by god...let's not make a god damn rule to save a fudgeing child because my little sally wants her PB&J...
By my calculation, little Sally can have a fudgeing PB&J for 16 meals out of 21 weekly meals if she wants to....
Some of you fudgeers will argue senseless shoot just to fudgeing argue....
Everybody in the freaking world ate PB&J when I was growing up. I never saw one person fall over from sniffing somebody's peanut fart or sticking their nose in their peanut mouth.
If you search long enough you'll find somebody allergic to EVERYTHING. Can't have any fish at school, Connie is allergic to shrimp. Can't have milk, Biff has lactose problems. Pizza? Cheese allergy, tomato allergy, gluten allergy, soy allergy, mushroom allergy, meat allergy. Kids can have water and that's all. Wait, some dipwad got water intoxication. Got to ban that.
Got to be limits. If one kid has that problem, isolate that one kid. And tell her not to go sticking her nose in somebody else's mouth.
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See, this is an example of me not being an "extreme" libertarian.
I'm open to the idea of legalizing other drugs after pot. But am far from sold. The science is out on pot that it is far less harmful than alcohol and many other unbanned substances. That's why it's clearly the subject of this debate, and not, say heroine. If it could be proved that people could use heroine responsibly, I'd be all for legalization of that as well, but they can't prove that because it's not true. People die on the reg from heroine ODs. It's best to leave that out of the hands of society, and I can see that because I'm reasonable. Perfect example of not letting your ideology, even libertarianism, overrule your reason.
Is it truly possible to use this responsibly?
(http://www.moviereviews.ae/images/heroine1.jpg)
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tomato allergy
So, it's on then?
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I know that I make really stupid arguments from time to time, but you motherfuckers have lost your minds.
I don't like Obama, and I don't agree with the majority of what he says. I think most of his ideas are stupid. Sure, there are better things to spend this money on. I don't see where this is some egregious waste, though. I don't see where they're trying to brainwash average citizens into government control. Hell, my kids would love to walk to school if they were close enough. Like others in this thread have stated, there are many other things to be pissed off at the government for.
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Michelle Obama is fat and ugly.
End of discussion.
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Michelle Obama is fat and ugly.
End of discussion.
As is Kate Upton, Meagan Fox, Emma Stone, and a litany of others in your opinion, so based on the transitive property of your appalling taste in women, she's smoking hot.
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As is Kate Upton, Meagan Fox, Emma Stone, and a litany of others in your opinion, so based on the transitive property of your appalling taste in women, she's smoking hot.
No, no, no.
I like Kate Upton. Not fat. Not ugly.
I like Emma Stone. Unusual. Not ugly.
I also like Jenny McCarthy, Kate Beckinsale, Kristin Kreuk, Rona Mitra, Lauren Holley, Julia Roberts, Racquel (Welch and Darrian), Blake Lively, Scarlett Johansen, Amanda Seyfried, Emilia Clarke, Amber Heard, Katie Perry, Ellie Gerber, Codi Milo, Eva Mendes, Alesandra, Jessica Alba, Michelle Rodriguez, Uma Thurman, Jennifer Garner, Olivia Wilde, Cindy Crawford, Rachel Leigh Cook, Maggie Lawson, Jesse Jane, and many more who make the cut.
Meagan Fox I don't care all that much for. Big forehead, cat eyes, fish mouth.. just doesn't work for me all the time.
My taste in women is exquisite.
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Michelle Obama is fat.
End of discussion.
As is Kate Upton.
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No, no, no.
I like Kate Upton. Not fat. Not ugly.
I like Emma Stone. Unusual. Not ugly.
I also like Jenny McCarthy, Kate Beckinsale, Kristin Kreuk, Rona Mitra, Lauren Holley, Julia Roberts, Racquel (Welch and Darrian), Blake Lively, Scarlett Johansen, Amanda Seyfried, Emilia Clarke, Amber Heard, Katie Perry, Ellie Gerber, Codi Milo, Eva Mendes, Alesandra, Jessica Alba, Michelle Rodriguez, Uma Thurman, Jennifer Garner, Olivia Wilde, Cindy Crawford, Rachel Leigh Cook, Maggie Lawson, Jesse Jane, and many more who make the cut.
Meagan Fox I don't care all that much for. Big forehead, cat eyes, fish mouth.. just doesn't work for me all the time.
My taste in women is exquisite.
Mmmmm Jenny McCarthy. Delicious.
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YES.
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Not as much (please step away from the scalpel and makeup truck)
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AAAAAAAHHHH!! WHAT IS THAT?!?!?