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NCAA says Auburn's Billings to miss four games
Posted by Charles Goldberg -- The Birmingham News August 27, 2009 5:51 PM
Categories: Football
Montez Billings will miss the first four games of the season due to an academic issue, Auburn said late Thursday afternoon. The NCAA ruled on it.
He graduated last spring.
The former Pelham High School standout is Auburn's leading returning receiver with 24 catches and 277 yards. Auburn's other returning healthy receivers have 15 combined catches.
"This is unfortunate for Montez, but we've exhausted all avenues to get him on the field as soon as possible," Senior Associate Athletic Director Rich McGlynn said. "While we don't necessarily agree with the NCAA's ruling, we have to respect and abide by their decision."
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Auburn's leading returning receiver had 24 catches for 277 yards??? wtf?
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Auburn's leading returning receiver had 24 catches for 277 yards??? wtf?
He's no Julio
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He's no Julio
You are correct. He's yet to shoot a man while robbing his castle.
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Auburn's leading returning receiver with 24 catches and 277 yards. Auburn's other returning healthy receivers have 15 combined catches.
Kodi needs to really shine now.
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Kodi needs to really shine now.
Ugh.
Just ugh.
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I guess Chizik's clueless statement earlier in the week makes a little more sense now, huh?
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I guess Chizik's clueless statement earlier in the week makes a little more sense now, huh?
No. It still makes none whatsoever.
Somebody in this situation is lying.
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No. It still makes none whatsoever.
Somebody in this situation is lying.
It's just business.
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It's just business.
Montez will take his suspension ...O N E game at a time
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I love it when Bama fans talk Julio. No, really. It never gets old.
Along with that id this aire of supremacy as if Bama has always had world beaters for WRs.
Sure.
Whatever helps you sleep on your houndstooth sheets at night.
As for Montez, his whole career has been a Twilight Zone episode. And if Auburn is expecting Kodi Burns to do more than spot work, I hope the RBs are ready for a lot of work as well as the defense.
Kodi is not the answer to anything.
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Montez will take his suspension ...O N E game at a time
unlike the west vancesters
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For once, I'm not sure losing Montez in the WR's corp that we have right now, would be a huge loss. From all accounts, the Freshman (which I know is a whole other debate) were beating out some of the older established guys.
This would be a much more alarming situation if M.B. had been a O-lineman, or LB. I just hope he gets his shit together so he's on the field the last 3/4's of the season.
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It's just business.
Well played, sir.
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For once, I'm not sure losing Montez in the WR's corp that we have right now, would be a huge loss. From all accounts, the Freshman (which I know is a whole other debate) were beating out some of the older established guys.
This would be a much more alarming situation if M.B. had been a O-lineman, or LB. I just hope he gets his shit together so he's on the field the last 3/4's of the season.
As far as I'm concerned a blind monkey in a hard hat could do better than our receivers from last year.
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If last weeks "Scrimmage" is any indication, Kodi will be involved a good bit in this offense. They ran quite a few plays getting the ball to him quickly to let him create. He caught the ball as well as any receiver on the day and looked pretty comfortable at the position.
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If last weeks "Scrimmage" is any indication, Kodi will be involved a good bit in this offense. They ran quite a few plays getting the ball to him quickly to let him create. He caught the ball as well as any receiver on the day and looked pretty comfortable at the position.
That's a really sad statement, you know.
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That's a really sad statement, you know.
It is true though. He displayed very good hands, and they got him the ball in a position to "make plays in space".
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It is true though. He displayed very good hands, and they got him the ball in a position to "make plays in space".
Let me know when we start playing in space. It'll be cool to take a rocket to games.
Meanwhile, I'm concerned that a converted QB, three days into an experiment, is on equal ground with our receivers. But maybe he's just that damn good.
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Let me know when we start playing in space. It'll be cool to take a rocket to games.
Meanwhile, I'm concerned that a converted QB, three days into an experiment, is on equal ground with our receivers. But maybe he's just that damn good.
Courtney Taylor
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Let me know when we start playing in space. It'll be cool to take a rocket to games.
Meanwhile, I'm concerned that a converted QB, three days into an experiment, is on equal ground with our receivers. But maybe he's just that damn good.
If Michael Jordan can do it, then Kodi by God Burns can too.
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The thing is, he wasn't out there running all these intricate routes and blocking downfield. He ran a lot of quick hitters and plays where he stepped back and the QB shot it out to him with blockers in front etc. Personally, I think it suits his abilities because a lot of what he had to do last year was create and make yardage on his own. He's a hell of an athlete...just not an SEC caliber QB.
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As far as I'm concerned a blind monkey in a hard hat could do better than our receivers from last year.
The Receivers coach?
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Courtney Taylor
Redshirt year. Third in the rotation as a freshman...
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Meanwhile, I'm concerned that a converted QB, three days into an experiment, is on equal ground with our receivers.
More failures of the previous staff...
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For once, I'm not sure losing Montez in the WR's corp that we have right now, would be a huge loss. From all accounts, the Freshman (which I know is a whole other debate) were beating out some of the older established guys.
This would be a much more alarming situation if M.B. had been a O-lineman, or LB. I just hope he gets his shit together so he's on the field the last 3/4's of the season.
If a guy like DeAngelo Benton, who did not even play ball in '08, can come in and outshine what you guys already have, then he is either a freak of nature, or the WR corps at AU are just that horrible. I know he was a 4* (even though I haven't heard Prowler bitch and moan about him not playing a season and still being ranked a 4*), but there is usually a little rust there. Either way, its not a good situation.
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Redshirt year. Third in the rotation as a freshman...
IMO Redshirt year means nothing, he has game experience, at QB yes but game experience is game experience. Third rotation...look at our receving corps at that time...Ben, Devin, and Anthony (whom I think might have been the best of the three).
I'm not saying I agree or disagree, I was just pointing out a former QB who made it as a WR. Kodi is an athelete, I never questioned his feet, he can make plays. If he can catch then I say throw it to him.
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If a guy like DeAngelo Benton, who did not even play ball in '08, can come in and outshine what you guys already have, then he is either a freak of nature, or the WR corps at AU are just that horrible. I know he was a 4* (even though I haven't heard Prowler bitch and moan about him not playing a season and still being ranked a 4*), but there is usually a little rust there. Either way, its not a good situation.
Spot on.
This speaks volumes about either the previous staff's WR recruiting over the last 3 years or their coaching ability...or both.
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If a guy like DeAngelo Benton, who did not even play ball in '08, can come in and outshine what you guys already have, then he is either a freak of nature, or the WR corps at AU are just that horrible. I know he was a 4* (even though I haven't heard Prowler bitch and moan about him not playing a season and still being ranked a 4*), but there is usually a little rust there. Either way, its not a good situation.
Julio Jones
I believe that WR is the one position you can step-in from high school and make an immediate impact. Think about it, if you are smart enough to learn routes (ie Kodi should know as a QB) and you can catch a ball. I think our problems with receiver stem from poor analyization of talent during the recruiting process, same thing goes for QB.
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This speaks volumes about either the previous staff's WR recruiting over the last 3 years or their coaching ability...or both.
This guy gets it. Greg Fucking Knox strikes again.
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Spot on.
This speaks volumes about either the previous staff's WR recruiting over the last 3 years or their coaching ability...or both.
This is one area I do think TT failed in.
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If a guy like DeAngelo Benton, who did not even play ball in '08, can come in and outshine what you guys already have, then he is either a freak of nature, or the WR corps at AU are just that horrible. I know he was a 4* (even though I haven't heard Prowler bitch and moan about him not playing a season and still being ranked a 4*), but there is usually a little rust there. Either way, its not a good situation.
DB was a 5* when he came out of HS. He was ranked a 4* after being "re-ranked" for the current year's class I believe. Beyond all that, the guy is as old, if not older than some seniors on the team, and I don't think it's a stretch to assume (while a little rusty early in camp) that he's got the physicality to contribute as an experienced upperclassman.
We'll see though.
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This guy gets it. Greg f*cking Knox strikes again.
The only thing Greg Knox struck the last year or so was probably a golf ball.
Unless there's something Mrs. Knox isn't telling.
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The only thing Greg Knox struck the last year or so was probably a golf ball.
Unless there's something Mrs. Knox isn't telling.
The frosh are presumed to be less developed than the upperclassmen...so why, then, are the upperclassmen (who were all recruited/trained by Knox and Co.) soooo far behind the frosh? Why is that do you suppose?
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The frosh are presumed to be less developed than the upperclassmen...so why, then, are the upperclassmen (who were all recruited/trained by Knox and Co.) soooo far behind the frosh? Why is that do you suppose?
Just don't compare their downfield blocking skills.
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The frosh are presumed to be less developed than the upperclassmen...so why, then, are the upperclassmen (who were all recruited/trained by Knox and Co.) soooo far behind the frosh? Why is that do you suppose?
I think he was agreeing with you....I think.
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I think he was agreeing with you....I think.
I think he was saying that Taylor and Co. have had eight months to improve the WRs, but Kodi still stepped in and contributed/outshined them.
I think that's bullshit since, as previously noted, Burns is not being asked to run routes and block downfield. He's in there to get the ball at, or close to, the LOS.
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I think he was saying that Taylor and Co. have had eight months to improve the WRs, but Kodi still stepped in and contributed/outshined them.
I think that's bullsh*t since, as previously noted, Burns is not being asked to run routes and block downfield. He's in there to get the ball at, or close to, the LOS.
You're choppering your own spin into what I said and making it fit the rant you were prepared to loose.
Was saying that our WR development was for sh*t under Knox. I've never disagreed with that. Ever. Not even before Tuberville left. On this topic I know things.
I do think it's a little unnerving for a guy who never lined up at the position to "outshine" as you say in about a week guys who have played that role their entire lives and have been practicing at that position for months.
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You're choppering your own spin into what I said and making it fit the rant you were prepared to loose.
Fair enough, but I wasn't preparing to lose anything to you, bucko.
Was saying that our WR development was for sh*t under Knox. I've never disagreed with that. Ever. Not even before Tuberville left. On this topic I know things.
I know you do.
I do think it's a little unnerving for a guy who never lined up at the position to "outshine" as you say in about a week guys who have played that role their entire lives and have been practicing at that position for months.
I think we're unfairly comparing Burns and the other receivers. Based upon my reading of the scrimmage/practice reports, Burns isn't learning the traditional WR packages. So, if he's asked to do things that the other WRs aren't, then you can't compare the two.
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I think we're unfairly comparing Burns and the other receivers. Based upon my reading of the scrimmage/practice reports, Burns isn't learning the traditional WR packages. So, if he's asked to do things that the other WRs aren't, then you can't compare the two.
Fair enough. I took the statement "caught the ball as well as any of the receivers" and made that into an indictment of receivers in general.
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I think we're unfairly comparing Burns and the other receivers. Based upon my reading of the scrimmage/practice reports, Burns isn't learning the traditional WR packages. So, if he's asked to do things that the other WRs aren't, then you can't compare the two.
Eggsackery.
Without giving away too many trade secrets, I believe what he was working was a portion of teh Wildcat package. He had 3 or 4 passes thrown his way and had ZERO drops. That was nice to see, considering he was the only one who could say that for the day anyway.
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Fair enough. I took the statement "caught the ball as well as any of the receivers" and made that into an indictment of receivers in general.
I also don't think catching the ball "as well as any of the receivers" is necessarily an indictment of the receivers since Burns is a guy that is used to handling the ball. Note, that quote does not say "better than" the receivers.
If our LBs are catching as well as any of the receivers, then we have serious concerns.
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Benton is a 4* or 5* WR who committed to one of the top programs in the nation (National Champions) and who is a big, physical athlete at 6'3" and about 205. He's been working his ass off, came in to summer workouts and has gone through the fall, proving that he belongs in the rotation.
Why in the hell does that speak volumes about how bad our WR group is?
This is not the glass half full take when I say I think you're going to see that this unit is much better than people think. Guys like Terrell Zachary(Some people forget how good he was coming out of H.S) Darvin Adams and Benton are tall, fast receivers who are now finally getting some real coaching and most importantly...direction. Can you really look at that clusterfuck of an offense last year and be able to judge the WR's. Fucksake people...we had broke-wing Todd and Kodi throwing passes behind a line that couldn't block a pee-wee team..in an offense that fell apart prior to the season. How about the year before? Brandon Cox? Holy shit, he didn't throw a straight pass until the 10th game of the season. Can anyone say USF and MSU?
The system that's being run will produce good receivers and these guys will be able to show what they can do. I'll go ahead and say that if Chris Todd has his head even half way out of his ass, people are going to see that this group is one of the real strengths of this team.
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Benton is a 4* or 5* WR who committed to one of the top programs in the nation (National Champions) and who is a big, physical athlete at 6'3" and about 205. He's been working his ass off, came in to summer workouts and has gone through the fall, proving that he belongs in the rotation.
Why in the hell does that speak volumes about how bad our WR group is?
This is not the glass half full take when I say I think you're going to see that this unit is much better than people think. Guys like Terrell Zachary(Some people forget how good he was coming out of H.S) Darvin Adams and Benton are tall, fast receivers who are now finally getting some real coaching and most importantly...direction. Can you really look at that clusterfuck of an offense last year and be able to judge the WR's. Fucksake people...we had broke-wing Todd and Kodi throwing passes behind a line that couldn't block a pee-wee team..in an offense that fell apart prior to the season. How about the year before? Brandon Cox? Holy shit, he didn't throw a straight pass until the 10th game of the season. Can anyone say USF and MSU?
The system that's being run will produce good receivers and these guys will be able to show what they can do. I'll go ahead and say that if Chris Todd has his head even half way out of his ass, people are going to see that this group is one of the real strengths of this team.
This is the key to our entire season.
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This is the key to our entire season.
and keeping our o-line injury free.
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I love it when Bama fans talk Julio. No, really. It never gets old.
Along with that id this aire of supremacy as if Bama has always had world beaters for WRs.
Sure.
Whatever helps you sleep on your houndstooth sheets at night.
As for Montez, his whole career has been a Twilight Zone episode. And if Auburn is expecting Kodi Burns to do more than spot work, I hope the RBs are ready for a lot of work as well as the defense.
Kodi is not the answer to anything.
Once again, you're a stupid f*ck and once again, you wanted to let us all know. Name one Alabama fan who has posted in this thread who has said the name Julio. What a stupid bitch.
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Once again, you're a stupid f*ck and once again, you wanted to let us all know. Name one Alabama fan who has posted in this thread who has said the name Julio. What a stupid bitch.
Haaaa!!! You just did.
Busted.
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Haaaa!!! You just did.
Busted.
Oooooo......B'ham got served. Yeah, you got served.
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Oooooo......B'ham got served. Yeah, you got served.
:pwnd:
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Please don't create a diversion that allows this dumb fuck off the hook for his idiocy. I'm ready for him to move on, like he does from every forum he visits. Your 2 weeks are up dumb fuck.
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Please don't create a diversion that allows this dumb f*ck off the hook for his idiocy. I'm ready for him to move on, like he does from every forum he visits. Your 2 weeks are up dumb f*ck.
So, you're saying you're really kind of pissed at this Sensi fellow?
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Not because he's an Auburn fan. I don't like him for the same reason I don't like #1Bammer, they're fucking dumb. Not that this makes them unique around here but most here have the ability to turn it off if for only a short while.
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Not because he's an Auburn fan. I don't like him for the same reason I don't like #1Bammer, they're f*cking dumb. Not that this makes them unique around here but most here have the ability to turn it off if for only a short while.
He has a streaming blog or something, you know.
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If a guy like DeAngelo Benton, who did not even play ball in '08, can come in and outshine what you guys already have, then he is either a freak of nature, or the WR corps at AU are just that horrible. I know he was a 4* (even though I haven't heard Prowler bitch and moan about him not playing a season and still being ranked a 4*), but there is usually a little rust there. Either way, its not a good situation.
De-Lo is a freakin' beast....think Julio, only two years older. BTW, what is this 4* crap you're talkin'....he's rated as a (6 Grillz).
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To hijack this thread back on topic.
How fucked is it when the organization that is supposed to make sure athletes are supposed to be graduating won't let one play who HAS FREAKING GRADUATED?
That sucks.
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To hijack this thread back on topic.
How f*cked is it when the organization that is supposed to make sure athletes are supposed to be graduating won't let one play who HAS FREAKING GRADUATED?
That sucks.
Can't play college football if you're not taking college classes.
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Can't play college football if you're not taking college classes.
Bingo. Word on the skreets, is that Montez took enough credits to graduate, but not enough to play....yet.
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De-Lo is a freakin' beast....think Julio, only two years older. BTW, what is this 4* crap you're talkin'....he's rated as a (6 Grillz).
Oh, so its just up to you to decide. Jalston Fowler isn't going to play for a year, and its a fucking travesty that he is still going to be rated. All three recruiting services are biased and its bullshit. DeAngelo Benton didn't play for a year but keeps a 4* rating, well thats just fine. Not one peep from Prowler. Chizik is a recruiting machine, etc.
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Bingo. Word on the skreets, is that Montez took enough credits to graduate, but not enough to play....yet.
I think that is what I hypothisized about a week ago...and I didn't need the skreets! *pats himself on the back*
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Oh, so its just up to you to decide. Jalston Fowler isn't going to play for a year, and its a f*cking travesty that he is still going to be rated. All three recruiting services are biased and its bullsh*t. DeAngelo Benton didn't play for a year but keeps a 4* rating, well thats just fine. Not one peep from Prowler. Chizik is a recruiting machine, etc.
You're right, Fowler should've kept his ratings when he was a Senior....Last Year. Fowler should not be in the bammerham News Super Seniors list, this year. Maybe the recruiting sites realize that D'Lo is still a freakin' beast (in '07 D'Lo was 6'3" 195lbs. with a 4.45 40, in '09 he's 6'3" 210lbs. with a 4.4 40). Fowler on the other hand, still runs a 4.8 40 :rofl:.
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You're right, Fowler should've kept his ratings when he was a Senior....Last Year. Fowler should not be in the bammerham News Super Seniors list, this year. Maybe the recruiting sites realize that D'Lo is still a freakin' beast (in '07 D'Lo was 6'3" 195lbs. with a 4.45 40, in '09 he's 6'3" 210lbs. with a 4.4 40). Fowler on the other hand, still runs a 4.8 40 :rofl:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MtQVV4vI5Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MtQVV4vI5Q)
Does it look like I give a shit if he runs a 4.8 40? He's a fullback for fucks sake. And for that purpose, I think he will do fine. I just found it amusing that there were two different commits, two different teams, same situation, and you bitched, whined, and cried about the bias shown to Fowler by the recruiting services. Not a peep about Benton though. No, when the same thing happens for AU its legit as fuck. Happens to an Alabama commit? Conspiracy.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MtQVV4vI5Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MtQVV4vI5Q)
Does it look like I give a sh*t if he runs a 4.8 40? He's a fullback for f*cks sake. And for that purpose, I think he will do fine.
He is a fullback, but he still should've kept his ratings, that the recruiting services had him rated as, when he was a Senior last year, which if you can't remember was a 2 star.
The Big Deal....
(Fast forward to about the :50 mark)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw8DXTMTVX0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw8DXTMTVX0)
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He is a fullback, but he still should've kept his ratings, that the recruiting services had him rated as, when he was a Senior last year, which if you can't remember was a 2 star.
I'm so sorry actual scouts and analysts at all three recruiting services didn't listen to your expert evaluation. How dare they.
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The Big Deal....
(Fast forward to about the :50 mark)
The big deal is that his mom can't work the zoom function on the camera???
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Oh, so its just up to you to decide. Jalston Fowler isn't going to play for a year, and its a f*cking travesty that he is still going to be rated. All three recruiting services are biased and its bullsh*t. DeAngelo Benton didn't play for a year but keeps a 4* rating, well thats just fine. Not one peep from Prowler. Chizik is a recruiting machine, etc.
The ability to grasp humor eludes you once again.
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Not because he's an Auburn fan. I don't like him for the same reason I don't like #1Bammer, they're f*cking dumb. Not that this makes them unique around here but most here have the ability to turn it off if for only a short while.
He's smarter than you.
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He's smarter than you.
It's possible as there are many who are. I simply wish his posts didn't make you just look like a mumbling fool. Intelligence, if someone was so equipped, wouldn't be a bad thing to include in his posts that procliam his dumb-fuckery.
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It's possible as there are many who are. I simply wish his posts didn't make you just look like a mumbling fool. Intelligence, if someone was so equipped, wouldn't be a bad thing to include in his posts that procliam his dumb-f*ckery.
Dumbfuckery? I like it. I shall endeavor to use it often in casual conversation.