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Title: James Willis
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 21, 2009, 06:15:45 PM
My brother just called and said the radio is reporting that both Auburn and Alabama are confirming that James Willis will be going to coach at Alabama...someone tell me this isn't true....
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Birmingham on January 21, 2009, 06:18:14 PM
That's what I'm hearing also.  I guess I'm happy about it.  I hear he lit up Mobil on the recruiting trail and that he's a good guy also.  We'll see.  If nothing else it will be cool seeing the Auburn melt down since I know you guys are pretty big on the guy.

Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: El Guapo on January 21, 2009, 06:22:06 PM
Hell, he's the one guy at AU that I've liked since he got there.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Townhallsavoy on January 21, 2009, 06:22:16 PM
This is 1 million percent Jay Jacobs.  Seriously...how the fuck do you let this guy go?  

This is 2 million percent Gene Chizik.  Seriously...why the fuck do you fire him if you plan on retaining him?  

This is 3 million percent James Willis.  Seriously...you want out of Auburn?  Go to fucking Georgia.  You're supposed to be the biggest AU guy on the staff and you bolt your alma mater two weeks before signing day to go work for your biggest rival?  Eat a dick.  
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Catphish Tilly on January 21, 2009, 06:23:28 PM
Its all over AL.com also. 


OK seriously.  WHAT IS GOING ON WITH MY FOOTBALL PROGRAM??????

Without having heard any explanation yet, my reaction to this is beyond   :throw:  followed by :suicide:
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Catphish Tilly on January 21, 2009, 06:31:00 PM
P.S.  Where is Kaos and Weasel?  Please stop the wagon and let me board.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Townhallsavoy on January 21, 2009, 06:51:31 PM
Bryan Matthews is reporting that James Willis didn't feel accepted by the new staff.  He didn't feel like he was treated the same as the others by Gene Chizik. 

THE FUCK I ALREADY HEARD THIS BEFORE GAWD DAMNIT. 

Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Townhallsavoy on January 21, 2009, 06:54:54 PM
Where the fuck is everyone?  This is meltdown mode!!!

By the way, I'm going to out to dinner, so I'll join the fun in a few hours. 

FUCK I'M PISSED. 
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 21, 2009, 06:55:07 PM
Pure Bullshit.  That's all I'll say.  
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on January 21, 2009, 06:59:43 PM
Bama just lost 2 coaches to UT and Clemson for lateral moves, we lose 1 to Bama for a lateral move.  We hired coaches from other schools to join us at AU, some for lateral moves.  This shit happens all over the country, it is not the end of the world.  Take a deep breath and relax.  In the world of big money, there is no such thing as loyalty.

JW will probably be able to recruit Mobile better for the Turds than he did with us.  he will definately have more $$$ at his disposal to do so.

The unfortunate thing is now he is a Bammer, therefore I now despise him.  Oh well, Takeo Spikes is my all time favorite AU lineacker anyway.  That dude was mean as shit.  Only one i can remember watching meaner than Takeo was Jason Miska.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: ssgaufan on January 21, 2009, 07:04:45 PM
Fuck James Willis!  I guess having a personal life and spending time with family no longer matters to him.  Fuck him, I wish him nothing but the worst.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Kaos on January 21, 2009, 07:06:49 PM
Fuck James Willis. Fuck his mother. Fuck his daddy.

Fuck his albino wife.

Fuck them all.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on January 21, 2009, 07:09:06 PM
Fuck James Willis. Fuck his mother. Fuck his daddy.

Fuck his albino wife.

Fuck them all.

That's pretty much all that needs to be said.  I agree with Kaos.  Maybe this will be the end of 200 pound linebackers at AU.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 21, 2009, 07:15:23 PM
 Oh well, Takeo Spikes is my all time favorite AU lineacker anyway.  That dude was mean as shit.  Only one i can remember watching meaner than Takeo was Jason Miska.

I'd give just about anything to see "Team 105" back on the field.  Good call brother!
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 21, 2009, 07:20:17 PM
Why in the hell does an AU man go to SPUAT?  Jesus H Christ, it's been a long time since I have been this heartbroke.  Screw you CJW, as THS said, if you want out of AU then go to Georgia, not Alabama.  I have never hated SPUAT more than I do at this moment.  I hope a giant hole opens up in the earth and the entire city falls off in it, never to be heard of again.  

Birmingham: Fuck you and go eat a dick.  I know it's not your fault, but it makes me feel better to say that and well, you are the resident bammer, so you know......  

DAMNIT, SHIT, FUCK, and anything else I can think to say.....
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: ssgaufan on January 21, 2009, 07:21:59 PM
Well I hope that Cotton was no longer considering us, or we'll be hearing from his diddy again.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on January 21, 2009, 07:25:55 PM
Well I hope that Cotton was no longer considering us, or we'll be hearing from his diddy again.

Cotton wanted to be the only QB coming in.  Sounds like he doesn't want to compete with the likes of even the lowly lated Mosely.  Cotton was not coming to AU once he and daddy started making fools of themselves after Tubs was let go.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: The Prowler on January 21, 2009, 07:43:24 PM
Willis is joining the uat staff as an Assistant HC/LB Coach.....

Fuck you coach Willis!!!!!  Fuckin' Benedick Arnold Piece of Shit.

Quote
coach Willis-
"I know my wife and the kids are as excited as I am to join Coach Saban's staff."

Quote
"Willis was uncomfortable with his role on Chizik's new staff and didn't feel like he was on equal footing with the assistants hired by Chizik.

Willis was also concerned that his salary was not in-line with that of Chizik's most recent hires.

Get The Fuck Out.  Didn't feel like he was on equal footing?  Are you fuckin' kidding me.  Fuckin' baby....Seriously?

Bye Bye Willis. :fu:
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on January 21, 2009, 07:48:11 PM
OK so how does this work?

two years spent recruiting players in Mobile telling them whay AU was a better place than UA.  Jan. 21st comes and all you have to do is change a few letters.  UA is a better place to ply than AU.

Makes you feel sorry for the 18 year old kids that get pulled in to this shit we call college football.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on January 21, 2009, 07:57:54 PM
OK so how does this work?

two years spent recruiting players in Mobile telling them whay AU was a better place than UA.  Jan. 21st comes and all you have to do is change a few letters.  UA is a better place to ply than AU.

Makes you feel sorry for the 18 year old kids that get pulled in to this shit we call college football.

Didn't another one of Tubs assistants just bail on a new job?  I seem to remember that one of the old assistants accepted a job at ISU and a week or 2 later changed his mind and took a job at MSU.  Now Willis takes a job from Chiz and promptly leaves a couple weeks later to move to UA.

Kind off odd if you ask me
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: RWS on January 21, 2009, 07:59:55 PM
:rofl:

jesus christ on ice skates, can it possibly get any worse for you guys?
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on January 21, 2009, 08:01:42 PM
:rofl:

jesus christ on ice skates, can it possibly get any worse for you guys?

Yeah we could be Rammer Lammers and have to wear houndstooth baseball hats
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: RWS on January 21, 2009, 08:04:53 PM
Willis is joining the uat staff as an Assistant HC/LB Coach.....

Fuck you coach Willis!!!!!  Fuckin' Benedick Arnold Piece of Shit.

Get The Fuck Out.  Didn't feel like he was on equal footing?  Are you fuckin' kidding me.  Fuckin' baby....Seriously?

Bye Bye Willis. :fu:
is this the Chizik effect we keep hearing about?  :clap:
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Aubie16 on January 21, 2009, 08:10:38 PM
:rofl:

jesus christ on ice skates, can it possibly get any worse for you guys?

I could be an alabama fan...
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: The Prowler on January 21, 2009, 08:47:35 PM
Quote
"Willis told Auburn head coach Gene Chizik on Tuesday that he had heard from Saban. Chizik asked him not to make a decision before he talked to him. On Wednesday morning, Willis told Chizik he was probably going to take the job. Chizik tried to talk him out of it. Former assistant coach Joe Whitt, for whom he played and worked as a student assistant and graduate assistant, tried to talk him out of it. But his mind was made up."

Makes me even happier that Willis is gone, he's a piece of shit traitor.  And, rws, you might want to take your boyfriend's cock outta your mouth, tell him that he should contact Coach $, and let him know that he has woken up a sleeping Giant.....a Giant that's younger, stronger, and has more teeth than the previous staff.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Talon on January 21, 2009, 09:17:05 PM
WTF?!?!?!? Shit, I just got home and loggged on and got the news. This is fuckin awful. He was the one person I never thought would go over to the turds.
FUCK HIM!!! FUCK SABAN! and FUCK BAMA!
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 21, 2009, 09:21:14 PM
jesus christ on ice skates

+$1 to Chizad
+$1 to AWK
+$1 to Kaos
 

Simple question Scissors...

Is this worse, same as, or more funny than Lance Thompson leaving Alabama?   I mean, since you're walking around in your glass house, you might as well put it all out there for us.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: boartitz on January 21, 2009, 09:43:29 PM
We lost Lorenzo Ward to Spurrier a week or so ago. Is this more of an SEC thing than anywhere else? Sure seems like it.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Townhallsavoy on January 21, 2009, 09:53:36 PM
We've lost Petey Smith.  "Alabama all the way."  He was seemingly happy that Willis made the decision easy for him.

Terrence Coleman is pissed at Willis.  He says he wants nothing to do with James Willis.  Close friend of Coleman, Barry James who is a top recruit for 2010, is also pissed at Willis.  Good for Auburn?  No.  What the fuck is?  Coleman is now a very soft commitment and will be looking around.   
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: The Prowler on January 21, 2009, 11:19:24 PM
LaVoyd James
Said that Willis was supposed to come by his house last night for an in-home, but he never showed up nor did he call.  James said that he's still commited but that he just not sure about it.

Jamontay Pilson
Said that his commitment to Auburn is still firm and that he's still coming for his official on Jan. 30th

Harris Gaston
Said that his commitment to Auburn is still firm, he's scheduled to be visiting MSU (Greg Knox's new job)on the 30th

Clint Moseley
Said that his commitment to Auburn is still firm and that he's still coming for his official on Jan. 30th.  He said he's already talked to Coach Malzahn and he's looking forward to winning an SEC and hopefully national championship at AU.

Dee Ford
Said that he thought Willis was a "pretty good, straight-forward dude since he was from Auburn."  Ford said he was fully committed to Auburn and nothing would change that.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Kaos on January 21, 2009, 11:26:57 PM
Makes me even happier that Willis is gone, he's a piece of shit traitor.  And, rws, you might want to take your boyfriend's cock outta your mouth, tell him that he should contact Coach $, and let him know that he has woken up a sleeping Giant.....a Giant that's younger, stronger, and has more teeth than the previous staff.

Prowler, seriously. Are you shitting me? 

I love AU as much or more than the next guy, but this made me throw up in my mouth.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: boartitz on January 21, 2009, 11:34:29 PM
Prowler, seriously. Are you shitting me? 

I love AU as much or more than the next guy, but this made me throw up in my mouth.

Its called winnowing. If he was insecure its better that he bail now than half-assing during yall's season.
He got culled. Yall's staff expects more than he could deliver.
He was whining, biotch. He didn't get his way. Adios. Yall are better off in the long run.
We have Saban surrounded. He can't get out.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 21, 2009, 11:37:49 PM
Wow.  Just WOW!!!

Willis... :fu:

I have a question.  What would prompt Saban to call James the scumbag, backstabbing traitor-ass fuck Willis?  Robocop a big dick up your ass. 
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 21, 2009, 11:43:07 PM
Oh..and I need some pussy.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Townhallsavoy on January 21, 2009, 11:45:09 PM
Prowler, seriously. Are you shitting me? 

I love AU as much or more than the next guy, but this made me throw up in my mouth.


Because of the douche baggery in the comment or the fact that it's completely wrong?  

Prowler - wake up.  We aren't a sleeping giant.  We're the sweaty broad laying motionless in the bed after being raped by the intruder.  

If you can't see how this is a HUGE setback, then I don't know what to say.  Willis is the coach who has established relationships in Alabama for 2010.  It may have pissed off a few recruits (who won't care in the long run), but Alabama just assured themselves anothing stellar recruiting class in the state of Alabama.  You better damn well hope Luper, Trooper, Malzahn, and Roof can recruit out of state as well as they're advertised.  
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: The Prowler on January 22, 2009, 12:09:24 AM
You're right, we aren't a sleeping Giant, we're up and moving and coach $ thinks that this will make us fall.

Here's a good read from another site:

Quote
"I personally don't view it as the end of the world. A short term punch, but nothing that cannot be overcome relatively quickly. CJW was a good coach and good recruiter. He got his feelings hurt twice, and three was just too much. Combine that with getting some bad advice, and you officially have a divorce.

IMO, this is about timing and location. Forgive the obvious, but especially the location. If people are honest they will note our LB play has been adequate, but nothing special and that our So Ala recruiting has been adequate, but nothing special. It stings, but what's the real "on the field" loss?

I also hate it for Willis, unless he becomes a raging success, he now is officially gone from the Auburn family. He will also now be forced to reconcile with Saban and UAT cheating (actually, now that I think about it, he already has in that he decided to join them). Also, he has a young family and they are about to pay a heavy price.

I hate it for the fallout it has created, but it is also an opportunity. If he was going to be the odd man out, then move on...we've seen what that can do. Moreover, it's a chance to hire someone better. Personally, I would at consider countering the move with Whitt Sr., but I doubt he'll do it.

That aside, this staff has let it be known they'll work their asses off and they're not afriad of the grey areas...that by itself will lead to better recruiting with or without Willis."

BTW, Coach Luper, Trooper, Roof, Grimes, and Rocker are just as good of recruiters as Willis is.  I'd say that Luper, Trooper, and Roof are a notch above Willis.
I'd be surprised if Trooper isn't assigned the Mobile area.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Iwannaplay on January 22, 2009, 01:01:20 AM

Clint Moseley
Said that his commitment to Auburn is still firm and that he's still coming for his official on Jan. 30th.  He said he's already talked to Coach Malzahn and he's looking forward to winning an SEC and hopefully national championship at AU.


Where the fuck else is he going to go? Arkansas State or Marshall.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AWK on January 22, 2009, 02:44:30 AM
This literally wants me to choke a baby.  This is fucking dumb. 

I could give a shit less whether or not he felt welcome, or if he was given an O'bama style inauguration to the new staff.  This was a spite move. 

F-U-C-K T-H-E A-U-B-U-R-N A-D-M-I-N-I-S-T-R-A-T-I-O-N
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Jumbo on January 22, 2009, 04:52:39 AM
Fuck James Willis.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Kaos on January 22, 2009, 05:20:56 AM
You're right, we aren't a sleeping Giant, we're up and moving and coach $ thinks that this will make us fall.

Here's a good read from another site:

BTW, Coach Luper, Trooper, Roof, Grimes, and Rocker are just as good of recruiters as Willis is.  I'd say that Luper, Trooper, and Roof are a notch above Willis.
I'd be surprised if Trooper isn't assigned the Mobile area.

Unbelievable.

Yeah, the Chiz is giving Saban nightmares. 

You're drunk.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Jumbo on January 22, 2009, 05:29:19 AM
Where the fuck else is he going to go? Arkansas State or Marshall.
I spoke with Coach Roberts and Coach Peoples last night they seem to think Mosley has a ton of talent.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Kaos on January 22, 2009, 08:45:54 AM
I spoke with Coach Roberts and Coach Peoples last night they seem to think Mosley has a ton of talent.

High school coaches? So what?

Nobody who makes a living studying this stuff thinks he's anything more than a project. He had no other legit offers and that's the point.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: RWS on January 22, 2009, 09:55:30 AM
+$1 to Chizad
+$1 to AWK
+$1 to Kaos
 

Simple question Scissors...

Is this worse, same as, or more funny than Lance Thompson leaving Alabama?   I mean, since you're walking around in your glass house, you might as well put it all out there for us.
actually, i was about to bring up that point. alot of AU fans thought it was funny as hell that CLT left for our rival UT. alot of you thought it was funny as hell and indicitave of CNS' tyranny that assistants were leaving. it was also funny as hell that you guys were robbing other staffs of coaches who, according to folks like you and Prowler, are just so fucking awesome. thats all fine and dandy. but when Willis leaves for Alabama, oh, the fun and games come to a screeching halt ricky tick. he feels he hasn't been treated equally by AU's new saviors so he leaves. why thats Alabama's fault, is beyond me. i hated to lose CLT, but it was a decision he felt he had to make and i held no ill will towards him. i never talked down about him leaving once. if CNS left today i would be disappointed, but i wouldn't be pissed off at him. call that bullshit all you want, but save this thread and the day it happens feel free to call me on it if i get pissed off. it won't happen, though. the difference here is i really didn't see our fanbase shitting themselves, hurling the F-bomb at CLT, or generally being pissed off about him leaving. i saw alot of "well, damn...." and some disappointment that we lost a great recruiter, but i never really saw temper tantrums or anything. thats the difference between the two right now. coaches are in this business to make money, period and make the best lives for themselves. CLT decided that UT was a better fit for him, fine. even as fans it would be rather selfish to pitch a tantrum over a coach leaving for a situation he felt was better for him or his family.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 22, 2009, 10:08:40 AM
actually, i was about to bring up that point. alot of AU fans thought it was funny as hell that CLT left for our rival UT. alot of you thought it was funny as hell and indicitave of CNS' tyranny that assistants were leaving. it was also funny as hell that you guys were robbing other staffs of coaches who, according to folks like you and Prowler, are just so fucking awesome. thats all fine and dandy. but when Willis leaves for Alabama, oh, the fun and games come to a screeching halt ricky tick. he feels he hasn't been treated equally by AU's new saviors so he leaves. why thats Alabama's fault, is beyond me. i hated to lose CLT, but it was a decision he felt he had to make and i held no ill will towards him. i never talked down about him leaving once. if CNS left today i would be disappointed, but i wouldn't be pissed off at him. call that bullshit all you want, but save this thread and the day it happens feel free to call me on it if i get pissed off. it won't happen, though. coaches are in this business to make money, period and make the best lives for themselves. CLT decided that UT was a better fit for him, fine. even as fans it would be rather selfish to pitch a tantrum over a coach leaving for a situation he felt was better for him or his family.

Listen dipshit...

First, no one is calling Chizik a savior. Auburn doesn't need saving. And we aren't in the UA business of worshipping and loving coaches over our University. It just doesn't happen that way on the plains.

Second, I am not as much pissed as much as I just con not fathom the move. I seriously can not comprehend it. How can, what seemed to be a true "Auburn" guy, make a lateral move to Alabama. Willis played football at Auburn, was I believe a GQ at Auburn, and then coached his last 3 years at Auburn. How the FUCK do you put on crimson. I didn't even go to school at Auburn (one of the things that I truly regret in life) and I wouldn't even THINK about going to Alabama. Wouldn't even cross my mind. How do you even take a call from Saban? If it was me, the call would go like this:

Me: Hello

Saban: Hey Coach, this is Nick

Me: What do you want?

Saban: I want you to come work for me.

Me: Fuck you.

Dialtone............

Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: RWS on January 22, 2009, 10:32:53 AM
Listen dipshit...

First, no one is calling Chizik a savior. Auburn doesn't need saving. And we aren't in the UA business of worshipping and loving coaches over our University. It just doesn't happen that way on the plains. apparently you have The Prowler and AC on ignore, and apparently you do not read other message boards. for all that you guys ridiculed us about hiring CNS and how we reacted, you really should take a closer look at some of your own fanbase. maybe you just selectively choose to ignore it, or maybe you honestly just haven't realized it, i don't know. while you very well may have kept a level head about it, others haven't. even some on this board have made him out to be the next coming of Jesus almost. realize these things before you go saying nobody is worshiping them.

Second, I am not as much pissed as much as I just con not fathom the move. I seriously can not comprehend it. How can, what seemed to be a true "Auburn" guy, make a lateral move to Alabama. Willis played football at Auburn, was I believe a GQ at Auburn, and then coached his last 3 years at Auburn. How the FUCK do you put on crimson. I didn't even go to school at Auburn (one of the things that I truly regret in life) and I wouldn't even THINK about going to Alabama. Wouldn't even cross my mind. How do you even take a call from Saban? If it was me, the call would go like this: did it ever cross your mind that MAYBE Willis contacted CNS? i'll just throw that out there and see if it sticks to the wall. let it swish around a little. i agree with you on one point though, how in the hell does a coach who played at AU and has so much history with AU come to Alabama? apparently Willis was eager to get out of AU. couple those two factors and it would be reasonable to at least fathom that Willis could have contacted CNS about the opening. this thing happened very quickly and Willis was the only one to interview for the second open position. i'm not saying it absolutely happened that way, i'm just saying it could be possible. its kind of a headscratcher. but apparently things were THAT bad at AU that he felt he needed to get out is one thing that i think is apparent.

Me: Hello

Saban: Hey Coach, this is Nick

Me: What do you want?

Saban: I want you to come work for me.

Me: Fuck you.

Dialtone............


Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Kaos on January 22, 2009, 10:33:37 AM
Me: Hello

Saban: Hey Coach, this is Nick




What if... and this is just one of those things that's floating around... what if Willis made the first move?
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Saniflush on January 22, 2009, 10:35:14 AM
alot of AU fans thought it was funny as hell that CLT left for our rival UT.

I still think it's funny.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: weagle251 on January 22, 2009, 10:50:26 AM
Since it hasn't been posted here, there was word on Jay Tate's blog that Willis was upset with Jay Jacobs because the AD wanted him to pay back his $70K severance he received when Tub was fired.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Kaos on January 22, 2009, 10:55:20 AM
Since it hasn't been posted here, there was word on Jay Tate's blog that Willis was upset with Jay Jacobs because the AD wanted him to pay back his $70K severance he received when Tub was fired.

Did he have that severance in hand or was he anticipating it?
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 22, 2009, 11:00:53 AM
Did he have that severance in hand or was he anticipating it?

I think he had it in hand...as in it had been paid to him and they were asking for it back.

If so, this is directly on JJ again... WTF is $70k...seriously. JJ needs to be taken into BEMC and tied to a basketball goal, right before they demolish it...
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: lifesapplepie on January 22, 2009, 11:14:58 AM
I think he had it in hand...as in it had been paid to him and they were asking for it back.

If so, this is directly on JJ again... WTF is $70k...seriously. JJ needs to be taken into BEMC and tied to a basketball goal, right before they demolish it...

 :rofl:
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Kaos on January 22, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
I think he had it in hand...as in it had been paid to him and they were asking for it back.

If so, this is directly on JJ again... WTF is $70k...seriously. JJ needs to be taken into BEMC and tied to a basketball goal, right before they demolish it...

Auburn is a state agency, right?

Unless they violated the rules his severance would have been paid out either in a lump sum in the next check run or disbursed in portions over time.

When was he fired and when was the next check series run?  

God forbid that I would ever take up for Jacobs, because I hate him, but...
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Saniflush on January 22, 2009, 11:15:49 AM
I think he had it in hand...as in it had been paid to him and they were asking for it back.

If so, this is directly on JJ again... WTF is $70k...seriously. JJ needs to be taken into BEMC and tied to a basketball goal, right before they demolish it...

70k is a big deal on an audit and hard to justify writing off just because you can.  I understand that in a multimillion dollar business it is not much but imagine it was just written off and it came out later.  

1) We would be crucified by the media (again) for wasting resources. (and imo rightfully so)

2) Does it not set a precedent for future situations?
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Kaos on January 22, 2009, 11:20:12 AM
70k is a big deal on an audit and hard to justify writing off just because you can.  I understand that in a multimillion dollar business it is not much but imagine it was just written off and it came out later.  

1) We would be crucified by the media (again) for wasting resources. (and imo rightfully so)

2) Does it not set a precedent for future situations?

But giving Tuberville $5M "because we're nice guys and it felt right"  is okay with the auditors? 
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: RWS on January 22, 2009, 11:22:11 AM
I think he had it in hand...as in it had been paid to him and they were asking for it back.

If so, this is directly on JJ again... WTF is $70k...seriously. JJ needs to be taken into BEMC and tied to a basketball goal, right before they demolish it...
if it was over $70k, then i agree with you there. if he was given $70k as severance pay, then hired back, then that would be sort of Chizik's fault for firing him in the first place only to rehire him weeks later. personally i think the only reason Willis was hired back was because of his connections with some guys pretty high up on the recruiting board and their reactions after Willis left. but in any event, he was fired. it wasn't his fault that Chizik realized he fucked up and then wanted him back. why should he owe that back? for fucks sake, AU just gave CTT $5.1 million for "resigning" from his position. the people at work who just got laid off that were given severance were also told that if their positions open back up in the future we would call them. they're not going to have to pay that shit back. to ask Willis to pay it back is ridiculous.....if that is in fact what happened.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Saniflush on January 22, 2009, 11:22:36 AM
But giving Tuberville $5M "because we're nice guys and it felt right"  is okay with the auditors? 

No, I don't think that is alright either which tells me that there is more to the story than we were told.  (which I do not believe is surprising to anyone who has their eyes open)
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Saniflush on January 22, 2009, 11:25:57 AM
the people at work who just got laid off that were given severance were also told that if their positions open back up in the future we would call them. they're not going to have to pay that shit back.

Speaking as someone who fires and lays off, I will bet money these people will not see those jobs again anytime soon.  That is what you call making 'em feel good after you have kicked them in the nutts.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 22, 2009, 11:29:26 AM
This is from a rivals article. It is from another unnamed source so take it for what it's worth.

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A source close to the situation told AuburnSports.com that Willis was uncomfortable with his role on Chizik's new staff and didn't feel like he was on equal footing with the assistants hired by Chizik.

There were also monetary issues involved according to the source. Willis was given a severance check, along with the rest of AU's former coaches after Chizik arrived. Shortly after Willis was re-hired by Auburn two weeks later, they asked for him to return the check.

IF this is true, it sounds like he had the check and was asked to pay them back. Whether that was in the form of reimbursement from money taken out of his check every month, or if they were asking for a check for the full amount from Willis, I have no idea. Either way it is wrong. And either way it sounds like JJ has fucked up again...
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Saniflush on January 22, 2009, 11:34:13 AM
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There were also monetary issues involved according to the source. Willis was given a severance check, along with the rest of AU's former coaches after Chizik arrived. Shortly after Willis was re-hired by Auburn two weeks later, they asked for him to return the check.


Maybe he blew all of it on pussy and beer.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: RWS on January 22, 2009, 11:38:21 AM

Maybe he blew all of it on pussy and beer.
what red blooded American wouldn't?
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: RWS on January 22, 2009, 11:40:30 AM
Speaking as someone who fires and lays off, I will bet money these people will not see those jobs again anytime soon.  That is what you call making 'em feel good after you have kicked them in the nutts.
of course they're not, because they're going to say "well we've been survivng without these positions, so lets just continue to save that money." everybody knows it, but still, they wouldn't be expected to pay it back. it wasn't their fault they were fired. if this really is what the whole Willis situation is about.....then damn.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: RWS on January 22, 2009, 12:50:57 PM
its official....just saw on AUN that this was a ploy by CNS because he is feeling the heat from Chizik on the recruiting trail and will do anything to stop it. :rofl:

EDIT: ADDING QUOTES AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE

Quote from: 'AUdrew1'
i think it's more about trying to destroy AU recruiting this year than anything. During the short time Chizik and staff have been here lil Nick is already starting to feel the heat on his coat tails. Willis should watch his back with Saban.

Quote from: 'GoAU'
Possibly to try and get back in the spotlight after some of the great pick-ups Chizik has made?

Quote from: 'OldNewby4507'
Maybe, JW was just plain jealous of the new coaches, and instead of stepping up his game, he bawled and bailed.

Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 22, 2009, 12:56:30 PM
its official....just saw on AUN that this was a ploy by CNS because he is feeling the heat from Chizik on the recruiting trail and will do anything to stop it. :rofl:

Then...it is the gospel.  Let it be written.  Let it be so.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 22, 2009, 12:58:29 PM
its official....just saw on AUN that this was a ploy by CNS because he is feeling the heat from Chizik on the recruiting trail and will do anything to stop it. :rofl:
Do not mock The Chizik Effect!
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Kaos on January 22, 2009, 01:02:19 PM
Do not mock The Chizik Effect!

I had red beans and rice (with sausage).  I'm feeling the chiz effect. 
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AWK on January 22, 2009, 01:33:03 PM
I bet Gene Chizik purposefully sent James Willis to UA as a spy.  David Ward told me that.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 22, 2009, 01:37:57 PM
I bet Gene Chizik purposefully sent James Willis to UA as a spy.  David Ward told me that.

Oh, so you're on the Drill Phone Speed Dial?
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Kaos on January 22, 2009, 01:43:24 PM
I bet Gene Chizik purposefully sent James Willis to UA as a spy.  David Ward told me that.

Chizik isn't Vito Corleone.  Willis isn't Luca Brasi.  Saban might be Sallazzo, though.  I hope somebody invites him to a sitdown in an Italian restaurant. 

BTW? Chizik would be Fredo. 
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AWK on January 22, 2009, 02:32:57 PM
Chizik isn't Vito Corleone.  Willis isn't Luca Brasi.  Saban might be Sallazzo, though.  I hope somebody invites him to a sitdown in an Italian restaurant. 

BTW? Chizik would be Fredo. 
Is Saban tall enough to be Sallazzo?
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Kaos on January 22, 2009, 02:34:10 PM
Is Saban tall enough to be Sallazzo?

If he wears a hat. 
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Saniflush on January 22, 2009, 02:37:07 PM
If he wears a hat. 

Does he have cattle?
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Kaos on January 22, 2009, 02:40:45 PM
Does he have cattle?

Maybe he has Chizik's cattle, because he damn sure can't find them.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Townhallsavoy on January 22, 2009, 11:22:51 PM
Did RWS seriously bring AUN quotes onto this site in an attempt to prove a point or make a crack?  What a tool. 
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AWK on January 23, 2009, 04:01:17 AM
It twas a joke.  He understands
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 23, 2009, 08:49:34 AM
Did RWS seriously bring AUN quotes onto this site in an attempt to prove a point or make a crack?  What a tool. 
He knows just how well respected Captain Drill Press is around here.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AUChizad on January 23, 2009, 12:21:03 PM
Chizik isn't Vito Corleone.  Willis isn't Luca Brasi.  Saban might be Sallazzo, though.  I hope somebody invites him to a sitdown in an Italian restaurant. 

BTW? Chizik would be Fredo. 
Willis is Fredo.

And you know how he ended up.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: RWS on January 23, 2009, 01:13:55 PM
Did RWS seriously bring AUN quotes onto this site in an attempt to prove a point or make a crack?  What a tool. 
i only brought the quotes to show the widespread delusion at some other sites. 
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Saniflush on January 23, 2009, 01:16:37 PM
i only brought the quotes to show the widespread delusion at some other sites. 

Yeah I think most of us got that.  Not all, but most. 
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: AUChizad on January 23, 2009, 04:24:58 PM
i only brought the quotes to show the widespread delusion at some other sites. 
I also heard that we landed on the moon and that Lance Bass is gay.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 23, 2009, 06:52:17 PM
Lance Bass is gay?

Damnit, I knew it.
Title: Re: James Willis
Post by: Saniflush on January 24, 2009, 05:58:35 AM
Lance Bass is gay?

Damnit, I knew it.

Let me guess. 

He told you it was his "first time" as well?