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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: JR4AU on March 07, 2012, 01:13:55 PM
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As if we didn't see this coming. Emotional presser.
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As if we didn't see this coming. Emotional presser.
He's gonna be a dolphin.....Unless he's not.
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He's gonna be a dolphin.....Unless he's not.
Talking heads on ESPN say top 4 are Dolphins, Jets, Redskins, Cardinals.
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Talking heads on ESPN say top 4 are Dolphins, Jets, Redskins, Cardinals.
I don't know who I'd put money on, but he's played in a dome his entire career. That helps the Cardinals. He wants total control of the offense. That rules out the Redskins (owner be crazy). If he's truly healthy again, he won't to play for a run-first team that plays strong defense. That hurts the Jets. The Dolphins are the worst team in a conference that includes the Patriots, the Bills, and the Jets. That hurts the Dolphins.
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He's gonna be a dolphin.....Unless he's not.
I fucking hope to god not, but I am sure it will happen as the Dolphins continue to make the stupidest decisions ever.
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I swear to god Prowler with a staff of actual monkeys would make a better GM.
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I think Irsay screwed the pooch on this one. I know he was due a signing bonus, but bringing Manning back for a couple of years to finish his career and mentor Luck into a world class QB, to me, is priceless.
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Dooley out. Manning in at Tennessee.
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I think Irsay screwed the pooch on this one. I know he was due a signing bonus, but bringing Manning back for a couple of years to finish his career and mentor Luck into a world class QB, to me, is priceless.
Agree completely and he has just pissed away any goodwill. The pressure will be on Luck to win and win early.
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I don't know who I'd put money on, but he's played in a dome his entire career. That helps the Cardinals. He wants total control of the offense. That rules out the Redskins (owner be crazy). If he's truly healthy again, he won't to play for a run-first team that plays strong defense. That hurts the Jets. The Dolphins are the worst team in a conference that includes the Patriots, the Bills, and the Jets. That hurts the Dolphins.
I'm hearing a lot about the Cards. He and Larry Fitzgerald would certainly be a great pair.
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Agree completely and he has just pissed away any goodwill. The pressure will be on Luck to win and win early.
Luck is going to be stepping in to a team that is devoid of talent for the most part, and what talent it does have, is mostly old. The pressure may be on him, but he's not going to win early and often.
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I'm hearing a lot about the Cards. He and Larry Fitzgerald would certainly be a great pair.
This is by far Mannnings best bet. They have some decent talent, just haven't had a QB to make something of it.
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I fucking hope to god not, but I am sure it will happen as the Dolphins continue to make the stupidest decisions ever.
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I swear to god Prowler with a staff of actual monkeys would make a better GM.
Shit, this would be the best QB that the Phins would have in the past 20 years. Besides, this is right down the Miami's alley.
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Shit, this would be the best QB that the Phins would have in the past 20 years. Besides, this is right down the Miami's alley.
I agree however, here is my opinion why it would be monumentally stupid. No knock against Peyton he is a great QB and leader. He has had a spectacular run but...
First off huge risk, we still don't know if he can play, and if he can play how good is he going to be? Second, this is a win now philosophy. Everything the Dolphins have been doing has been building for the future, IMO we would need to bring in some free agents on the defensive side of the ball as well as another veteran receiver. Ask the jets how putting a piece meal team from free agency has worked out for them?
I would rather see the Dolphins take a chance on RG III and continue to build the team with talent then have 1 or 2 successful seasons and go back into the crapper.
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I agree however, here is my opinion why it would be monumentally stupid. No knock against Peyton he is a great QB and leader. He has had a spectacular run but...
First off huge risk, we still don't know if he can play, and if he can play how good is he going to be? Second, this is a win now philosophy. Everything the Dolphins have been doing has been building for the future, IMO we would need to bring in some free agents on the defensive side of the ball as well as another veteran receiver. Ask the jets how putting a piece meal team from free agency has worked out for them?
I would rather see the Dolphins take a chance on RG III and continue to build the team with talent then have 1 or 2 successful seasons and go back into the crapper.
Where are the Dolphins picking? If they have a legit shot at RGIX(54-12), that's the better way to go. He's got the skillz and could be your guy for the next 8-10 years.
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I agree however, here is my opinion why it would be monumentally stupid. No knock against Peyton he is a great QB and leader. He has had a spectacular run but...
First off huge risk, we still don't know if he can play, and if he can play how good is he going to be? Second, this is a win now philosophy. Everything the Dolphins have been doing has been building for the future, IMO we would need to bring in some free agents on the defensive side of the ball as well as another veteran receiver. Ask the jets how putting a piece meal team from free agency has worked out for them?
I would rather see the Dolphins take a chance on RG III and continue to build the team with talent then have 1 or 2 successful seasons and go back into the crapper.
They showed some video this morning of him working out recently. He can play. He's been medically cleared. I don't think it's a risk anymore than any other aging free agent QB. Whoever gets him will only have him 3 years max.
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I would rather see the Dolphins take a chance on RG III and continue to build the team with talent then have 1 or 2 successful seasons and go back into the crapper.
Can't disagree with this whatsoever. The glass half empty tells me that this will not be the case and the Phins will find them another shitastic QB like always. The bit about Manning was sort of sarcasm towards the Phins concerning this very thing. Not that I think Manning would be bad, its just like you said, no one really knows if he is even half capable of what he once was. Again, its the gamble that Miami is so often eager to make and it never work out to their benefit.
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They showed some video this morning of him working out recently. He can play. He's been medically cleared. I don't think it's a risk anymore than any other aging free agent QB. Whoever gets him will only have him 3 years max.
Yeah so I have heard, let me ask what happens when he gets blindsided by a 265 lb LB?
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Yeah so I have heard, let me ask what happens when he gets blindsided by a 265 lb LB?
According to what I've heard, there's no extra risks. This past season wasn't about the injury itself, but nerve regeneration after surgery. Again, he's been medically cleared to play.
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I agree however, here is my opinion why it would be monumentally stupid. No knock against Peyton he is a great QB and leader. He has had a spectacular run but...
First off huge risk, we still don't know if he can play, and if he can play how good is he going to be? Second, this is a win now philosophy. Everything the Dolphins have been doing has been building for the future, IMO we would need to bring in some free agents on the defensive side of the ball as well as another veteran receiver. Ask the jets how putting a piece meal team from free agency has worked out for them?
I would rather see the Dolphins take a chance on RG III and continue to build the team with talent then have 1 or 2 successful seasons and go back into the crapper.
Not sure why the Phins can't sign Manning (as he only has a couple of years left anyway), pick up RG3 and let Manning mentor him. Not sure what they have to lose by signing Manning.
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Not sure why the Phins can't sign Manning (as he only has a couple of years left anyway), pick up RG3 and let Manning mentor him. Not sure what they have to lose by signing Manning.
Ed Zachery what I was thinking.
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Manning to Vikings?
Why not?
Luck is an Amish gnome. I've been wrong before (about Manning vs. Leaf, actually) but I don't see Luck ever being anything of note in the NFL. I watched them play several times and I just don't think he's that damn good. IMO he's average at best playing against a ton of spectacularly shitty defensive teams.
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Manning to Vikings?
Why not?
Luck is an Amish gnome. I've been wrong before (about Manning vs. Leaf, actually) but I don't see Luck ever being anything of note in the NFL. I watched them play several times and I just don't think he's that damn good. IMO he's average at best playing against a ton of spectacularly shitty defensive teams.
I can't say where Peyton is going. I'd suspect to a dome team. Vikings, Cards? Don't see him in Miami, definately don't see him at the Jets.
Luck? Haven't seen him play that much. He is athletic and smart. He's got a chance, but there's a lot of luck involved, no pun intended, and the Colts better get their shit together quick. They're rebuilding, and Luck will be unable to carry them early.
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Manning to Vikings?
Why not?
Luck is an Amish gnome. I've been wrong before (about Manning vs. Leaf, actually) but I don't see Luck ever being anything of note in the NFL. I watched them play several times and I just don't think he's that damn good. IMO he's average at best playing against a ton of spectacularly shitty defensive teams.
The Vikings always have a shit OL. He'll break the other vertebrae in his neck within the first six games.
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I am predicting the Broncos.
+ for Manning - OL, running game and defense is good. Can use draft pick for WR.
+ for Broncos - They get out of the Tebow situation without angering their fan base. No one is going to complain about getting PM.
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I am predicting the Broncos.
+ for Manning - OL, running game and defense is good. Can use draft pick for WR.
+ for Broncos - They get out of the Tebow situation without angering their fan base. No one is going to complain about getting PM.
Have you heard?
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Have you heard?
ba ba ba ba ba bird bird, bird is the word
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I am predicting the Broncos.
+ for Manning - OL, running game and defense is good. Can use draft pick for WR.
+ for Broncos - They get out of the Tebow situation without angering their fan base. No one is going to complain about getting PM.
Possibly but I'm like several others here and going with the Cardinals. First and foremost because they play in a dome, and secondly Larry Fitzgerald.
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If I was GM, with a bunch of monkeys, I wouldn't sign Manning, I'd save my 150 Million and pick up 4 good quality players (2 on O & 2 on D) with the money that would've gone to Mr. Cart off waiting to happen. Then, I'd Draft for my other needs/best player available.
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If I was GM, with a bunch of monkeys, I wouldn't sign Manning, I'd save my 150 Million and pick up 4 good quality players (2 on O & 2 on D) with the money that would've gone to Mr. Cart off waiting to happen. Then, I'd Draft for my other needs/best player available.
NFL is a "what have you done for me lately" league. If Manning is the piece of the puzzle that gets you from ,500 to playoffs NOW, then you sign him.
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NFL is a "what have you done for me lately" league. If Manning is the piece of the puzzle that gets you from ,500 to playoffs NOW, then you sign him.
Better have a good quality backup QB.
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NFL is a "what have you done for me lately" league. If Manning is the piece of the puzzle that gets you from ,500 to playoffs NOW, then you sign him.
The Broncos are a team that feel like they could even make a run in the playoffs. Not to mention, the Dolphins have a great LT and Brandon Marshall.
The NFL is a pass-happy league. If Manning is anything like he was prior to the surgeries, he's worth a lot more than four good supporting players.
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I'd do 2 chicks at the same time.
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I'd do 2 chicks at the same time.
I think that settles the Manning debate.
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I'd do 2 chicks at the same time.
The kind that would double up on a dude like you...if you had a million dollars I think you could make that happen.
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The kind that would double up on a dude like you...if you had a million dollars I think you could make that happen.
What would you do with a Million dollars?
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ESPN/Chris Mortensen saying Denver and AZ are Peyton's top 2 choices.
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Luck and his horse face will be the face of the Colts....perfect fit.
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Luck and his horse face will be the face of the Colts....perfect fit.
They'd better stock up.
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If I was GM, with a bunch of monkeys, I wouldn't sign Manning, I'd save my 150 Million and pick up 4 good quality players (2 on O & 2 on D) with the money that would've gone to Mr. Cart off waiting to happen. Then, I'd Draft for my other needs/best player available.
"Mr. Cart off"
You do realize that Peyton Manning started every game that he had been in the pros until this year right?
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Peyton has only visited Denver and Arizona so far. However, he's visiting Tennessee today, and Miami is confident (for whatever reason) that they will get a visit from him.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8278aba0/article/titans-preparing-for-visit-from-peyton-manning-early-this-week?module=HP11_hot_topics (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8278aba0/article/titans-preparing-for-visit-from-peyton-manning-early-this-week?module=HP11_hot_topics)
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Peyton has only visited Denver and Arizona so far. However, he's visiting Tennessee today, and Miami is confident (for whatever reason) that they will get a visit from him.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8278aba0/article/titans-preparing-for-visit-from-peyton-manning-early-this-week?module=HP11_hot_topics (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8278aba0/article/titans-preparing-for-visit-from-peyton-manning-early-this-week?module=HP11_hot_topics)
Doubtful after they traded Brandon Marshall, now we really suck.
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Doubtful after they traded Brandon Marshall, now we really suck.
I heard that may have been done, in part, to make more cap room so that maybe Peyton could bring Reggie Wayne with him.
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I heard that may have been done, in part, to make more cap room so that maybe Peyton could bring Reggie Wayne with him.
Do you remember when the Braves lost the 1982 NCLS to St. Louis and then went out and snatched a few old washed up Cardinals for their roster?
Ken Oberkfell. Bruce Sutter. Lonnie Smith eventually. Worked out well. Or not.
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Do you remember when the Braves lost the 1982 NCLS to St. Louis and then went out and snatched a few old washed up Cardinals for their roster?
Ken Oberkfell. Bruce Sutter. Lonnie Smith eventually. Worked out well. Or not.
I was actually a Bravos fan then. Yeah, I recall, but Manning makes any team without a QB better. But it's a short term fix.
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I was actually a Bravos fan then. Yeah, I recall, but Manning makes any team without a QB better. But it's a short term fix.
Sutter was going to save us. Son of a bitch.
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Sutter was going to save us. Son of a bitch.
If only Hrabosky could have hung on a year or 2 more.
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Doubtful after they traded Brandon Marshall, now we really suck.
Traded Marshall to open up room for Wayne...then Manning.
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Traded Marshall to open up room for Wayne...then Manning.
He has re-signed with the colts
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I still don't want him on the phins. I think Denver makes the most sense. They are in a position to win now, their division is a joke, they have a good upper management team and coach, and plenty of cap room.
The plague of locusts would only last so long.
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I still don't want him on the phins. I think Denver makes the most sense. They are in a position to win now, their division is a joke, they have a good upper management team and coach, and plenty of cap room.
The plague of locusts would only last so long.
Maybe after Cutler gets the axe from da Bears, he can sign with Miami.
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Maybe after Cutler gets the axe from da Bears, he can sign with Miami.
One can only hope.
I was actually hoping they would go after Jason.
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NFL.com's skreetz are whack, yo.
Despite what their previous article said, Manning apparently met with the Dolphins on Monday, not the Titans. The Titans are flying out some time today to meet with Manning, presumably in North Carolina. Manning has not worked out with any team yet, but indicates that he would be willing to work out with teams that he considers "serious finalists."
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7683959/2012-nfl-free-agency-tennessee-titans-owner-says-peyton-manning-meeting-wednesday (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7683959/2012-nfl-free-agency-tennessee-titans-owner-says-peyton-manning-meeting-wednesday)
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I was actually hoping they would go after Jason.
Too good to be true. No way that would happen.
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Broncos - "We can offer you a solid team ready for the playoffs."
Miami - "We can offer you sunny weather, a good offensive line, and a chance to compete with Tom Brady."
Cardinals - "We can offer you Fitzgerald, a dome, and a chance to play in the NFC."
Titans - "Fuck all that. We can offer you part of the team."
Tennessee Titans owner Bud Adams said he plans to offer Peyton Manning a contract that would make the star quarterback a member of his franchise “for life.”
He actually can do it, too.
FOXSports.com has learned that kind of unusual arrangement isn’t barred under NFL rules. It also could set a precedent for other franchises that might want to sweeten the pot when courting star players.
FOXSports.com has learned that the Titans can offer Manning a contract addendum with the promise of a front-office position once his playing days have ended. Such a deal would not count against Tennessee’s salary cap, but the salary must be considered fair-market value for whatever front-office position Manning is promised, whether as an administrator or coach.
Theoretically, that means the Titans can guarantee Manning a future executive’s role that carries a seven-figure annual salary without taking a cap hit.
Such an arrangement would be unprecedented under the collective bargaining agreement. The deal, like all player contracts, also would require the approval of the NFL’s management council.
Adams, though, cannot promise Manning an ownership stake in the franchise. Such arrangements must first be approved by the league. There also would be salary-cap ramifications if an active player agreed to a deal that allowed him or a family member to become a part-owner either while still playing or in the future.
Adams told KHOU-TV in Houston on Wednesday that he wants Manning to become part of the Titans “for life.” In an article on the NFL’s website, analyst Mike Lombardi wrote that part of Adams’ sales pitch might include “a promise Manning could be part of the Tennessee Titans’ organization after his playing days are through.”
Such a pact must be done in writing. The NFL has previously sanctioned teams that have tried swinging under-the-table arrangements to circumvent the salary cap.
In 2000, the San Francisco 49ers were fined $300,000 and stripped of third- and fifth-round draft picks for striking “side deals” that would filter financial benefits to two players. One of those players was tight end Brent Jones. He was allegedly promised a bonus for doing offseason work to promote the franchise’s efforts to get a new stadium built in San Francisco.
The Titans might still be able to land Manning without the guarantee of a front-office job or future ownership. Manning took a visit to the Titans' headquarters Wednesday, marking the fourth meeting he has had with an interested suitor since his release last week by Indianapolis. Denver, Arizona and Miami also have made pitches to Manning.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/peyton-manning-tennessee-titans-can-offer-lifetime-deal-031512 (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/peyton-manning-tennessee-titans-can-offer-lifetime-deal-031512)
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Hey GF, you weren't too skippy on Manning so it looks like you get your wish. Heard this morning that Miami is out of the running and Green Bay back up, Matt Flynn is interviewing with the Fins today. You Super Bowlin', baby.
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Hey GF, you weren't too skippy on Manning so it looks like you get your wish. Heard this morning that Miami is out of the running and Green Bay back up, Matt Flynn is interviewing with the Fins today. You Super Bowlin', baby.
:rolleyes: :facepalm:
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:rolleyes: :facepalm:
What the hell did I tell ya.
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Hey GF, you weren't too skippy on Manning so it looks like you get your wish. Heard this morning that Miami is out of the running and Green Bay back up, Matt Flynn is interviewing with the Fins today. You Super Bowlin', baby.
Seattle bound.
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I don't get the whole hype for Matt Flynn. Front page of ESPN NFL Has the heading
Problem Solver: The QB position has been a source of concern for Seattle, but Matt Flynn changes all that.
The guy had one outstanding game for GB and now he is the best thing since sliced bread. If I seem to recall Kevin Kolb did something similar when he was at Philadelphia only it was over a series of games. How has he been working out for Arizona...oh yeah didn't they just make a mega deal to move up to get RGIII.
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I don't get the whole hype for Matt Flynn. Front page of ESPN NFL Has the heading
Problem Solver: The QB position has been a source of concern for Seattle, but Matt Flynn changes all that.
The guy had one outstanding game for GB and now he is the best thing since sliced bread. If I seem to recall Kevin Kolb did something similar when he was at Philadelphia only it was over a series of games. How has he been working out for Arizona...oh yeah didn't they just make a mega deal to move up to get RGIII.
Heard a lot of speculation this weekend since SF now looks to be a major player in the Manning sweepstakes. Sine Alex Smith hasn't signed his deal, Miami looks to be a good possibility if he goes somewhere else. Who knows. ESPN and Yahoo talking heads.
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Manning went to the Broncos
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Manning went to the Broncos
Really a strange move IMO. I really thought SF made more sense. They have a real running game and are trying to upgrade the WR position. Plus, they have one of the best defenses in the league. Thought they could be an instant contender with Manning.
On the bright side, maybe this effectively ends Teblow mania.
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Manning went to the Broncos
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Really a strange move IMO. I really thought SF made more sense. They have a real running game and are trying to upgrade the WR position. Plus, they have one of the best defenses in the league. Thought they could be an instant contender with Manning.
On the bright side, maybe this effectively ends Teblow mania.
I think it makes sense. Manning takes over a playoff ready team, Elway gets his real QB. Manning wants to be in ownership one day, and gets to learn from a guy like Elway. And yes, Tebow mania is history, at least for the next few years.
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Gonna claim ignorance on knowing what that means.
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Gonna claim ignorance on knowing what that means.
It means flabberfuseplexfounded.
It means - "What the fu-?"
It means - Why would he go to the Broncos when the 49ers were looking to shop Alex Smith?
It means - Why would he go to the Broncos when the Broncos are ranked in the 15+ in every statistical category?
It means - Why would Manning to go to a team that only got into the playoffs because of the running game and Tebow's freakish ability to make plays with his legs?
It means - Oh...I get it now. 5 years for $95 million.
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It means flabberfuseplexfounded.
It means - "What the fu-?"
It means - Why would he go to the Broncos when the 49ers were looking to shop Alex Smith?
It means - Why would he go to the Broncos when the Broncos are ranked in the 15+ in every statistical category?
It means - Why would Manning to go to a team that only got into the playoffs because of the running game and Tebow's freakish ability to make plays with his legs?
It means - Oh...I get it now. 5 years for $95 million.
ok
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Be curious to compare peytons stats in a dome vs outside vs outside in the cold.
My memory may be fuzzy but I don't think he fares well in elements. Denver has elements particularly in the playoffs.
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Manning went to the Broncos
And Tebow wept.
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It means flabberfuseplexfounded.
It means - "What the fu-?"
It means - Why would he go to the Broncos when the 49ers were looking to shop Alex Smith?
It means - Why would he go to the Broncos when the Broncos are ranked in the 15+ in every statistical category?
It means - Why would Manning to go to a team that only got into the playoffs because of the running game and Tebow's freakish ability to make plays with his legs?
It means - Oh...I get it now. 5 years for $95 million.
Maybe his thinking was that "This team only got into the playoffs because of the running game and Tebow's freakish ability to make plays with his legs. Imagine what they could do with me!"
Plus 5 years for $95 million.
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And Elway is thinking that $95M for getting rid of Tebow without looking like an asshole is C H E A P !!!
Elway is the real winner here...
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Y'all are all over thinking this. Peyton just wanted to stay with the horse theme mascot.
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Y'all are all over thinking this. Peyton just wanted to stay with the horse theme mascot.
Easier for him to be the face of the program. Hey oh!
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Tebow to the Dolphins perhaps?
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Tebow to the Dolphins perhaps?
Fuck you simp...now you are just being hurtful.
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Fuck you simp...now you are just being hurtful.
You are the god/mod. Use your powers.
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You are the god/mod. Use your powers.
The e-penis - it abounds and shall be flexed.
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Fuck you simp...now you are just being hurtful.
Well, its been a long time since the Phins had God on their side. This would change everything.
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Be curious to see how much of Manning's contract is guaranteed.
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This guy is probably really pissed...
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Wait a minute......since when could cenetaurs play? Fucks sake its been a long time since I really watched pro ball!