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The Library => Haley Center Basement => Topic started by: Tiger Wench on July 06, 2011, 12:33:24 PM
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I could see how a foreign national should be given consular help in a legal situation in another country. If I were arrested in Mexico, I would want to call the consulate.
But the second small line I highlighted below is what everyone that is clamouring for his stay of execution is over looking, and what, to me, makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE in this case. He is in this country illegally, and has been since he was 2. THIRTY SIX YEARS. And NOW, all of a sudden, he wants to be given the rights of a Mexican citizen because it will keep Rick Perry from pushing the needle on his sorry ass? After 36 years, he was not aware what happens to child killers in Texas?
Fuck you, Humberto. You should have thought of that before you raped and brutally killed a 16 year old girl in a state with an express lane through death row. Adios, motherfucker.
Stay rejected for girl's Mexican killer
Texas Board of Pardons and Parole denies request for 180-day reprieve, spurning international clamor
By ALLAN TURNER
HOUSTON CHRONICLE
July 5, 2011, 9:48PM
Texas thumbed its nose at the White House and the United Nations on Tuesday as it cleared the way for Thursday's execution of Humberto Leal Garcia Jr., a Mexican national who was denied access to his nation's consulate after being arrested for a San Antonio rape-murder.
The Texas Board of Pardons and Parole's 4-1 rejection of Leal's bid for a 180-day reprieve marks the second time in four years that Texas has resisted national and international calls that it observe the U.N.'s Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, which guarantees foreign defendants contact with their governments' representatives.
His fate now rests with the U.S. Supreme Court, which is considering a stay of execution request from the Obama administration.
Leal, 38, was sentenced to die for the May 24, 1994, murder of 16-year-old Adria Sauceda. The girl was found naked on a rural road in San Antonio after being raped and then bludgeoned with a chunk of asphalt.
Acting without a pardons board recommendation, Gov. Rick Perry could grant a 30-day stay. His spokeswoman, Katherine Cesinger, said the governor has not yet decided, but historically he rarely grants such requests.
A reprieve for Leal, if granted by the Supreme Court, might give Congress time to act on a bill introduced by Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., chairman of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, that would provide for federal review of capital cases involving foreigners denied consulate contact.
About 100 convicted killers nationwide would be eligible for such reviews.
Leahy's bill is an outgrowth of a 2004 U.N. world court decision, stemming from a Mexican lawsuit against the United States, that hearings be held for dozens of inmates to determine if their cases had been hurt by their inability to contact their consulates.
In 2005, then-President George W. Bush called for the hearings to take place in state courts. Texas appealed, and in 2008 the Supreme Court held that only Congress could order such hearings.
Tuesday's parole board decision to deny a reprieve came despite a June plea from six former diplomats urging the stay be granted. In a letter to Perry and the board, they warned that the security of Americans detained on charges while traveling or living abroad depends on signers of the Vienna Convention — including the U.S. - honoring their treaty obligations.
The diplomats included Henry Barnes, Jr., former ambassador to Chile, India, Romania and director general of the Foreign Service; former U.S. Sen. James Jones, who was ambassador to Mexico, 1993-1997; Thomas Pickering, former U.N. ambassador; and William Taft IV, former U.S. ambassador to NATO.
Leal's lawyer, Northwestern University law professor Sandra Babcock, said the paroles board also disregarded pleas from military leaders, judges, prosecutors and the federal government in a decision that would "undermine the international interests of the United States."
Last week, three members of the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals - which rejected a separate Leal plea for a stay - suggested that the paroles board and Perry might act in the killer's behalf even though the court could not.
If the Mexican-born Leal, who has lived in the United States since age 2, is executed, it will mark the second time in four years that Texas has defied international demands that it observe the Vienna Convention.
In August 2008, the state executed Mexican citizen Jose Medellin for the 1993 strangulation of two Houston teenagers, Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena.
"Texas is not bound by a foreign court's ruling," Cesinger said. "The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2008 that the treaty was not binding on states and that the president does not have authority to order review of cases of foreign nationals on death row in the U.S."
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There was a sausage festival...did AWK attend?
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There was a sausage festival...did AWK attend?
Attend...shit...I was the Grand Marshal.
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Attend...shit...I was the Grand Marshal.
Thought Abe was?
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Thought Abe was?
The sausage king of Chicago?
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The sausage king of Chicago?
I find him snooty.
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I find him snooty.
Snooty?
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Snooty?
Snotty.
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Snotty.
Sergeant Peterson..Chicago PD
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**SIGH**
This is what I get for not posting this in the SGA...
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**SIGH**
This is what I get for not posting this in the SGA...
You just sounded like Dirty Harry just then.
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**SIGH**
This is what I get for not posting on the X this in the SGA....
FIXT
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Texas grants illegal prisoner American citizenship.
Death at 6 to follow.
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I could see how a foreign national should be given consular help in a legal situation in another country. If I were arrested in Mexico, I would want to call the consulate.
But the second small line I highlighted below is what everyone that is clamouring for his stay of execution is over looking, and what, to me, makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE in this case. He is in this country illegally, and has been since he was 2. THIRTY SIX YEARS. And NOW, all of a sudden, he wants to be given the rights of a Mexican citizen because it will keep Rick Perry from pushing the needle on his sorry ass? After 36 years, he was not aware what happens to child killers in Texas?
Fuck you, Humberto. You should have thought of that before you raped and brutally killed a 16 year old girl in a state with an express lane through death row. Adios, motherfucker.
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Just realized something. He was not required to disclose his nationality when he was arrested, and the cops are not allowed to ask him, so how were the cops to know that he was not an American, and needed to call his consulate?
Can't have it both ways, fucktard. He is in the holding cell even as I type this. His last meal was tacos and fried chicken, pico de gallo and fried okra. Hope he enjoyed it.
Did I mention that he bashed the girl's head in with a 30 lb block of cement and asphalt?
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Last words - "Viva Mexico."
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Seems appropriate...
http://www.youtube.com/v/ycv48_DlNEY
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Just realized something. He was not required to disclose his nationality when he was arrested, and the cops are not allowed to ask him, so how were the cops to know that he was not an American, and needed to call his consulate?
Can't have it both ways, fucktard. He is in the holding cell even as I type this. His last meal was tacos and fried chicken, pico de gallo and fried okra. Hope he enjoyed it.
Did I mention that he bashed the girl's head in with a 30 lb block of cement and asphalt?
Completely agree. You also can't have the Mexican govt telling their fucking citizens to go to America illegally....then offer them the cloak of their Mexican rights once they break the law here. Fuck THAT.
Rick Perry just might end up President.
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This is the key to the SCOTUS decision based on the appeal from the Obama administration:
Mexico, the Obama administration and others had asked the U.S. Supreme Court to delay Leal's execution so Congress could consider a law that would require court reviews in cases where condemned foreign nationals did not receive help from their consulates. They said the case could affect not only foreigners in the U.S. but Americans detained in other countries.
The court rejected the request 5-4. Its five more conservative justices doubted that executing Leal would cause grave international consequences, and doubted "that it is ever appropriate to stay a lower court judgment in light of unenacted legislation."
"Our task is to rule on what the law is, not what it might eventually be," the majority said.
Talk about your slippery slope... " "Dude, you can't send me to jail for marijuana possession - it might get legalized someday..."
What a stupid argument.
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He also admitted to everything... All the Mexican attorneys in the world could not change the rock solid evidence against him. No question this guy was guilty.
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Rick Perry just might end up President.
I have criticized him before and called him a Himbo with good hair. But considering the other options, and considering the alternative we have now... He may have the very best chance.
Is this country ready for another Texas president? Dunno, but this one is Texas to the core. No Yale elite here. Rancher, Texas Aggie, hard core conservative...
Viva Rick.
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Scalia is my homie. They were absolutely right to slam dunk that shit out of their chambers.
This a welcome decision. Especially this week.
As for Rick....I agree. Texan to the tips of his boots. I haven't approved of everything he's done, most notably his recent abortion bullshit....but I do admire the fact that he is willing to tell almost everyone outside of Texas to go fuck themselves when they start to meddle.
And I did have a small crush on him in grad school.
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This is the key to the SCOTUS decision based on the appeal from the Obama administration:
Talk about your slippery slope... " "Dude, you can't send me to jail for marijuana possession - it might get legalized someday..."
What a stupid argument.
Going back to the Vienna Convention... The federal gubm'et essentially has a treaty with all nations granting them the opportunity to provide support, legal council and so forth for their citizens who are arrested in the United States. The problem is that the federal gubm'et never pushed this down to the states. Congress never took the appropriate action to apply this at the state level. So technically, this treaty would only apply to federal crimes. The states are still free to enforce their laws as they deem approriate. By asking for the delay, BO was planning to rush it through Congress... Sort of like that masterful healthcare bill.
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Dude was going to get convicted one way or another. He was high on cocaine when he did it, and admitted to his brother that he had killed somebody that night when he came home covered in blood. He gave the cops a BS story, then when they told him his brother had told them what actually happened, the guy changed his story and admitted to killing her.
It blows my mind that our government would try to stop the execution, even if it was only a good faith gesture to Mexico. Especially given how hot the topic of immigration is right now. If it was you or me, they wouldn't give two shits if we were about to get the needle. This dumbass has lived in the US for 30+ years. I'm pretty sure he knows the law here.
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And I did have a small crush on him in grad school.
Are there really any small crushes?
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Wait Garman got to go to the Sausage Festival...fuck you AWK!
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When he yelled viva mexico, did no one reply "Remember the Alamo"?
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I say let the Mexican Consulate bring him his last meal from Taco Bell.