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Title: Commercial insanity
Post by: Kaos on December 29, 2023, 10:55:51 AM
Even on streaming services I think the advertising business has lost its collective mind. 

Does Samsung seriously think the commercial with the gay french sounding black “man” and an assortment of other weirdos will entice anyone — literally anyone — to buy a flip phone? 

Do we have to be subjected to graphic groping to peddle anti AIDS medicine?

Are fatties really the best representatives for lingere and underwear?

Have the cosmetic companies decided that the ugliest, fattest people in the world make the best models?

Why does every single commercial feature an interracial couple (less than 10% of all couples in reality), a gay couple (less than 5%) or a trans freak (less than 2%)?   

Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 29, 2023, 11:24:05 AM
Even on streaming services I think the advertising business has lost its collective mind. 

Does Samsung seriously think the commercial with the gay french sounding black “man” and an assortment of other weirdos will entice anyone — literally anyone — to buy a flip phone? 

Do we have to be subjected to graphic groping to peddle anti AIDS medicine?

Are fatties really the best representatives for lingere and underwear?

Have the cosmetic companies decided that the ugliest, fattest people in the world make the best models?

Why does every single commercial feature an interracial couple (less than 10% of all couples in reality), a gay couple (less than 5%) or a trans freak (less than 2%)?

I did one of those thread/posty things a while back, addressing the interracial couples in advertising.  As I've said before, I'm a bit of a marketing nerd.  I actually pay attention to those things, and want to see what the "hook" is, and if it's effective in making you relate it to the product.

In recent years, there has been this major trend toward including interracial couples in advertising.  Even more recently, gay couples have become the norm.  It has zero to do with the product, and everything to do with "diversity and inclusion."  Companies do not want to face any accusations of a lack thereof.  While it's not advertising, even Hallmark finally succumbed to the pressure, and started making movies about gay and lesbian couples. 

Watch any Target commercial.  They're absolutely over the top with making sure every ad has a black, Asian, Latino, Indian etc. 
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Kaos on December 29, 2023, 11:39:57 AM
I did one of those thread/posty things a while back, addressing the interracial couples in advertising.  As I've said before, I'm a bit of a marketing nerd.  I actually pay attention to those things, and want to see what the "hook" is, and if it's effective in making you relate it to the product.

In recent years, there has been this major trend toward including interracial couples in advertising.  Even more recently, gay couples have become the norm.  It has zero to do with the product, and everything to do with "diversity and inclusion."  Companies do not want to face any accusations of a lack thereof.  While it's not advertising, even Hallmark finally succumbed to the pressure, and started making movies about gay and lesbian couples. 

Watch any Target commercial.  They're absolutely over the top with making sure every ad has a black, Asian, Latino, Indian etc.


Here’s the funny thing I’ve found.  When it comes to the mixed-race coupling, events, parties, etc…? 

The only and I mean ONLY demographic pushing that are liberal, guilt-ridden whites. Everybody else prefers to maintain their own customs, traditions, etc. 

So we pull them into “our”’world while theirs remains distinct and separate- as the others prefer.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 29, 2023, 12:29:59 PM
To take the Target thing a bit further, it's not just in their advertising, but the way they run their stores.  Now granted, I'm going by what I see in the Target down here in little ole Dothan, but I assume they're in lock step with company guidelines. Target appears to gear everything towards that inclusive and diverse Utopia.

This is not an agree or disagree take.  Just an observation.  They were one of the first major department stores to put in "Trans" bathrooms. They took heat earlier this year during Pride Month, by placing their Pride collection of clothing front and center for everyone to see as they came in the doors.  Throughout the store, there are huge pictures of dozens of models, both adult and kids.  You will see every nationality under the sun represented, and hard pressed to find a white model in the mix.

We were in there twice in recent weeks, to find Christmas gifts, and I noticed something pretty telling.  They put up a Christmas section, with decorations etc. for sale, but placed that section in the far back corner of the store.  If you walked anywhere else in that Target, you wouldn't have a clue it was the Christmas season.  No decorations, no tree, no snowflakes hanging, no Santa.  Purposefully excluded, so as not "offend" anyone who might not celebrate Christmas.

Hey, maybe it was just my Target.  Maybe they were understaffed and had no time to put anything up.  But it looks more like it falls right in line with their M.O. 

Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: chinook on December 29, 2023, 12:52:56 PM
Even on streaming services I think the advertising business has lost its collective mind. 

Does Samsung seriously think the commercial with the gay french sounding black “man” and an assortment of other weirdos will entice anyone — literally anyone — to buy a flip phone? 

Do we have to be subjected to graphic groping to peddle anti AIDS medicine?

Are fatties really the best representatives for lingere and underwear?

Have the cosmetic companies decided that the ugliest, fattest people in the world make the best models?

Why does every single commercial feature an interracial couple (less than 10% of all couples in reality), a gay couple (less than 5%) or a trans freak (less than 2%)?

the marlboro man never enticed me to go buy cigarettes.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Snakebite on December 29, 2023, 02:09:02 PM
the marlboro man never enticed me to go buy cigarettes.

That marketing did influence a lot of others to think that smoking was cool beans.  Just as major league baseball was littered with childhood heroes that always seemed to have a fat dip in their lip throughout the 90's and early 2000's when I watched religiously.  I dipped tobacco as a result of being influenced by that for over 10 years, and to this day it is the hardest thing I have ever quit. 

Point being, kids are impressionable.  We are already seeing the consequence of that marketing and group-think in today's society by kids attempting to attach themselves to new/trendy identifiers.  Hell, I have even heard stories of a kid that goes to Montgomery Academy that identifies as a cat.  Apparently, the school has provided a litter box for the kid to shit and piss in to avoid any negative National publicity.  Where is the line drawn?
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Kaos on December 29, 2023, 02:40:29 PM
That marketing did influence a lot of others to think that smoking was cool beans.  Just as major league baseball was littered with childhood heroes that always seemed to have a fat dip in their lip throughout the 90's and early 2000's when I watched religiously.  I dipped tobacco as a result of being influenced by that for over 10 years, and to this day it is the hardest thing I have ever quit. 

Point being, kids are impressionable.  We are already seeing the consequence of that marketing and group-think in today's society by kids attempting to attach themselves to new/trendy identifiers.  Hell, I have even heard stories of a kid that goes to Montgomery Academy that identifies as a cat.  Apparently, the school has provided a litter box for the kid to shit and piss in to avoid any negative National publicity.  Where is the line drawn?

I think we can start with shitting in a box. 
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Kaos on December 29, 2023, 02:45:34 PM
Hey, maybe it was just my Target.  Maybe they were understaffed and had no time to put anything up.  But it looks more like it falls right in line with their M.O.

No.  Same here. Christmas in the back and let's fill it with Blantas. You had to really search to find anything conventional or traditional.   

I went there two days after Christmas because I got a gift card and every bit of the sale stuff was Mexican Christmas, blanta themed items (from wrapping paper to figurines),  Disanta (Santas in wheelchairs...), and odd/weird stuff that wasn't really related to what most of us consider Christmas at all.

But... Target was, as always, loaded with super-hot early 30s moms.  I guess they're preying on that millennial guilt complex.  Well, that and the occasional stray goat wandering around with a beard and multi-colored hair.

Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: chinook on December 29, 2023, 03:01:58 PM
That marketing did influence a lot of others to think that smoking was cool beans.  Just as major league baseball was littered with childhood heroes that always seemed to have a fat dip in their lip throughout the 90's and early 2000's when I watched religiously.  I dipped tobacco as a result of being influenced by that for over 10 years, and to this day it is the hardest thing I have ever quit. 

Point being, kids are impressionable.  We are already seeing the consequence of that marketing and group-think in today's society by kids attempting to attach themselves to new/trendy identifiers.  Hell, I have even heard stories of a kid that goes to Montgomery Academy that identifies as a cat.  Apparently, the school has provided a litter box for the kid to shit and piss in to avoid any negative National publicity.  Where is the line drawn?

point...think for yourself.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Snakebite on December 29, 2023, 03:26:51 PM
point...think for yourself.

100% agree that all adults should.  A lot of them don't.  I was specifically speaking on children & teenagers.  Not being contentious, just stating something mostly true.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Kaos on December 29, 2023, 09:53:32 PM
point...think for yourself.

Dude. My high school baseball coach gave me my first chewing tobacco.  I was a freshman or sophomore, not playing much, and he cut of a plug of Cannonball. 

My head was spinning and I fought off puking for the rest of the game.  Barely.  But I didn’t want to look like less of a man.

 I went back for more the next day at practice.  Thus started a habit that stuck with me for 20+ years. I never played a game or played golf or mowed grass or did anything outside without a wad in my jaw. And I chewed inside too.  There were two liter bottles full of spit hidden all over the house trying to keep it from the wife and kids.

Something weird?  I never had a single cavity until after i quit.  Dentist said the Red Man destroyed the bacteria. Ha! 

Marlboro Man never made me want to smoke.  But Sonny Crockett did.  So I did
both for a long while.   Chew and smoke.


Edited to add:  I just saw a Target commercial.  There were 11 different actors.  Four were fat ass black women.  One white person.  A child that bounced in and out of the frame in less than two seconds.  When I go to Target (which is exceedingly rare) I never see anyone who looks like the people who populate their commercials. Who are they marketing to?
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: CCTAU on December 29, 2023, 10:33:54 PM
Haven’t stepped foot in a Target since they started letting you guys into the women’s restrooms…
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 29, 2023, 10:52:46 PM
Haven’t stepped foot in a Target since they started letting you guys into the women’s restrooms…
What were you doing in there in the first place?
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Snakebite on December 30, 2023, 06:38:04 AM
Haven’t stepped foot in a Target since they started letting you guys into the women’s restrooms…

I’m a transgender shitter exclusively. Bathrooms are cleaner, and the audible reactions to my thunderous force works better than laughing gas.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: wesfau2 on December 30, 2023, 10:21:01 AM
For fuck's sake, y'all need better media literacy. 

NO SCHOOL HAS PROVIDED LITTER BOXES FOR ANY STUDENT.

Stop getting your news from Facebook and Fox.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Kaos on December 30, 2023, 11:32:43 AM
For fuck's sake, y'all need better media literacy. 

NO SCHOOL HAS PROVIDED LITTER BOXES FOR ANY STUDENT.

Stop getting your news from Facebook and Fox.

As soon as you stop getting yours from NPR and MSNBC. 

That’s the saddest part.  You can’t or won’t accept that YOU are the one being brainwashed by the TNI. 
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: War Damn Six on December 30, 2023, 12:59:11 PM
I think I speak for everyone when I say you two should get a room…

Or meet at the Sonic in Alma.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: CCTAU on December 30, 2023, 08:40:35 PM
For fuck's sake, y'all need better media literacy. 

NO SCHOOL HAS PROVIDED LITTER BOXES FOR ANY STUDENT.

Stop getting your news from Facebook and Fox.

Hmm. Did your liberal sources tell you that? Just had a kid move here from Chicago. He states they absolutely had litter boxes in the restrooms. That was one of the reason he wanted his mom to move here. So I guess as far as you are concerned, it didn’t happen…
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 31, 2023, 12:39:58 PM
I think I speak for everyone when I say you two should get a room…

Or meet at the Sonic in Alma.
if you hear that this is happening, please I beg that you will tell me. I’d trade Snake’s testicles to see this. I mean, I want to try to break it up before it starts. Be a peacemaker.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 31, 2023, 12:41:59 PM
All joke’s aside, if y’all set something up, let me know. Maybe I could schedule to beat the fuck out of Snags on the same card.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: wesfau2 on December 31, 2023, 06:34:16 PM
Hmm. Did your liberal sources tell you that? Just had a kid move here from Chicago. He states they absolutely had litter boxes in the restrooms. That was one of the reason he wanted his mom to move here. So I guess as far as you are concerned, it didn’t happen…

That sounds completely verifiable and non-anecdotal.

Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: CCTAU on December 31, 2023, 07:39:11 PM
That sounds completely verifiable and non-anecdotal.

You are right. My source is the kid who went to school with the furries. And your source is liberal media… Therefore the the guy who lived it must be lying…
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: jmar on January 01, 2024, 05:10:36 PM
So civil liberties are open to interpretation just for the sake of a challenge, real or imagined. And society is to provide a solution all for the sake of inclusion.




Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Snakebite on January 02, 2024, 06:48:34 AM
So civil liberties are open to interpretation just for the sake of a challenge, real or imagined. And society is to provide a solution all for the sake of inclusion.

Welcome to The Panderverse.


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Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: jmar on January 02, 2024, 07:45:57 AM
Welcome to The Panderverse.


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Aptly named.
Seems everything is rated by these silly subjective polls and top eleventy lists which I can only guess is automatically a vote up if we happen to click to take a peek... especially the weird outlandish stuff.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 02, 2024, 06:47:20 PM
You are right. My source is the kid who went to school with the furries. And your source is liberal media… Therefore the the guy who lived it must be lying…
My willy is furry.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: wesfau2 on January 03, 2024, 09:40:54 AM
You are right. My source is the kid who went to school with the furries. And your source is liberal media… Therefore the the guy who lived it must be lying…

Good, so you're aware of the differences between an anecdote and a sourced story.  Next step is implementing some discernment on which stories to believe.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: CCTAU on January 03, 2024, 03:01:22 PM
Good, so you're aware of the differences between an anecdote and a sourced story.  Next step is implementing some discernment on which stories to believe.
Sure. The kid and his older brother are both liars because YOU didn't see it and your liberal media didn't inform you. Therefore it did not happen...
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: wesfau2 on January 03, 2024, 03:31:59 PM
Sure. The kid and his older brother are both liars because YOU didn't see it and your liberal media didn't inform you. Therefore it did not happen...

Yes, kids are notoriously reliable narrators.  And I'd venture a guess that their (or at least their parents') politics align with yours (meaning they're in the same information ecosystem, if only by proxy).

See, these idiotic stories sprout somewhere and the facebook crew goes nuts sharing them.   And trip over their dicks every time it's not true.  The shamelessness is that they just keep pushing bullshit everytime they're called on it.

I'm begging y'all to find one single reputable outlet that verified this litter box story.  Cause it AIN'T THERE.  There are about 5000 stories about the debunking and persistance of this shit, but nothing that corroborates or finds even a scintilla of truth.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 03, 2024, 04:51:14 PM
Yes, kids are notoriously reliable narrators.  And I'd venture a guess that their (or at least their parents') politics align with yours (meaning they're in the same information ecosystem, if only by proxy).

See, these idiotic stories sprout somewhere and the facebook crew goes nuts sharing them.   And trip over their dicks every time it's not true.  The shamelessness is that they just keep pushing bullshit everytime they're called on it.

I'm begging y'all to find one single reputable outlet that verified this litter box story.  Cause it AIN'T THERE.  There are about 5000 stories about the debunking and persistance of this shit, but nothing that corroborates or finds even a scintilla of truth.
I don’t have any problem with litter boxes, other than I have a bad knee and when I go past a half squat, it gives out. I don’t know if you’ve ever sat bare ass in some cat litter but it doesn’t feel clean.

If they could raise them up, it would be more comfortable for me. And make them larger. I tend to shit more than a small box can cover. It’s sort of embarrassing when you can’t cover the entire turd.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: War Damn Six on January 03, 2024, 07:38:13 PM
Yes, kids are notoriously reliable narrators.  And I'd venture a guess that their (or at least their parents') politics align with yours (meaning they're in the same information ecosystem, if only by proxy).

See, these idiotic stories sprout somewhere and the facebook crew goes nuts sharing them.   And trip over their dicks every time it's not true.  The shamelessness is that they just keep pushing bullshit everytime they're called on it.

I'm begging y'all to find one single reputable outlet that verified this litter box story.  Cause it AIN'T THERE.  There are about 5000 stories about the debunking and persistance of this shit, but nothing that corroborates or finds even a scintilla of truth.

I ❤️ you. 
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: GH2001 on January 03, 2024, 07:52:01 PM
Yes, kids are notoriously reliable narrators.  And I'd venture a guess that their (or at least their parents') politics align with yours (meaning they're in the same information ecosystem, if only by proxy).

See, these idiotic stories sprout somewhere and the facebook crew goes nuts sharing them.   And trip over their dicks every time it's not true.  The shamelessness is that they just keep pushing bullshit everytime they're called on it.

I'm begging y'all to find one single reputable outlet that verified this litter box story.  Cause it AIN'T THERE.  There are about 5000 stories about the debunking and persistance of this shit, but nothing that corroborates or finds even a scintilla of truth.

But what if QAnon said so?
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: wesfau2 on January 03, 2024, 08:21:49 PM
But what if QAnon said so?

You laugh, but that's partly how some folks fall into that shit.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: War Damn Six on January 03, 2024, 08:24:33 PM
You laugh, but that's partly how some folks fall into that shit.

True story…

A good friend of mine fell into this mindset.  I haven’t talked to them in a couple years now.  They bought it all through their “church” telling them this.  It’s scary what people buy into.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: CCTAU on January 03, 2024, 09:08:25 PM
Yes, kids are notoriously reliable narrators.  And I'd venture a guess that their (or at least their parents') politics align with yours (meaning they're in the same information ecosystem, if only by proxy).

See, these idiotic stories sprout somewhere and the facebook crew goes nuts sharing them.   And trip over their dicks every time it's not true.  The shamelessness is that they just keep pushing bullshit everytime they're called on it.

I'm begging y'all to find one single reputable outlet that verified this litter box story.  Cause it AIN'T THERE.  There are about 5000 stories about the debunking and persistance of this shit, but nothing that corroborates or finds even a scintilla of truth.

I’ll have to have another conversation with my blind liberal neighbors I guess.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Kaos on January 03, 2024, 10:09:01 PM
True story…

A good friend of mine fell into this mindset.  I haven’t talked to them in a couple years now.  They bought it all through their “church” telling them this.  It’s scary what people buy into.

That bird flies both directions hoss. 

81 million votes, insurrection, “they just want to get married”, “there is no slippery slope”, “Russian collusion” and a thousand more would like a word with you two. 
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: War Damn Six on January 03, 2024, 10:15:02 PM
That bird flies both directions hoss. 

81 million votes, insurrection, “they just want to get married”, “there is no slippery slope”, “Russian collusion” and a thousand more would like a word with you two.

I am not arguing that it doesn’t go both ways.  Extreme thinking to the left or the right is dangerous. 
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Kaos on January 03, 2024, 10:28:08 PM
I am not arguing that it doesn’t go both ways.  Extreme thinking to the left or the right is dangerous.

The litter box story - which may or may not be true, I don’t know - isn’t the only example here. 

Tooting the “insurrection” horn and blindly regurgitating  the TNI talking points is just as bad or worse to me. 

There needs to me middle ground but there can’t because some treat as ignorant all who don’t accept their packaged mainstream media fed position as the gospel. 

It’s kinda insulting, honestly.  Particularly when we KNOW the media has lied about almost everything for years - and so have far too many politicians. 

I’d love a moderate, unifying candidate but that’s not an option now.  So give me a fighter. 
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Kaos on January 04, 2024, 09:10:17 AM
Back to the original topic prior to it being derailed by unwarranted leftist snobbery. 

There’s a new series of Amazon commercials that subtly advance the emasculation of man agenda. 

A slovenly, emaciated man (thin enough to be a concentration camp survivor) stays home and tries to take care of baby while well-dressed wife hangs in the background watching with bemusement.  His way of coping with the daily trials is to shovel what is clearly her money into increasingly expensive kitchen gadgets.  Finally, after successfully brewing a cup of coffee, the wife sashays by, a leering nod of the head sending him scampering after her like a starving simp rat. 

It’s subtle.  But the messaging is clear.  Men are helpless and useless.  Women are strong and dominant.  The promise of being granted a moment of sex sends she submissive men crawling in craven gratitude after the golden puss. 
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: GH2001 on January 04, 2024, 11:37:42 AM
Back to the original topic prior to it being derailed by unwarranted leftist snobbery. 

There’s a new series of Amazon commercials that subtly advance the emasculation of man agenda. 

A slovenly, emaciated man (thin enough to be a concentration camp survivor) stays home and tries to take care of baby while well-dressed wife hangs in the background watching with bemusement.  His way of coping with the daily trials is to shovel what is clearly her money into increasingly expensive kitchen gadgets.  Finally, after successfully brewing a cup of coffee, the wife sashays by, a leering nod of the head sending him scampering after her like a starving simp rat. 

It’s subtle.  But the messaging is clear.  Men are helpless and useless.  Women are strong and dominant.  The promise of being granted a moment of sex sends she submissive men crawling in craven gratitude after the golden puss.

Tim Allen said he regrets letting the writers of Home Improvement letting Tim Taylor fall into that category. Watching in live, not sure I noticed. But looking back now, im not sure he was wrong.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: wesfau2 on January 04, 2024, 11:51:40 AM
Tim Allen said he regrets letting the writers of Home Improvement letting Tim Taylor fall into that category. Watching in live, not sure I noticed. But looking back now, im not sure he was wrong.

His whole character's schtick was mouth-breathing clod who needed his wife and neighbor to bail him out.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: GH2001 on January 04, 2024, 11:56:54 AM
His whole character's schtick was mouth-breathing clod who needed his wife and neighbor to bail him out.

right, thats all im saying, they really played up his ineptness more than I realized at the time. While the wife tended to be the level headed one that was always there and always right. Was it deliberate? I don't know. But some seem to think so including Allen. He also used cocaine a time or two during filming so....
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: wesfau2 on January 04, 2024, 12:01:53 PM
right, thats all im saying, they really played up his ineptness more than I realized at the time. While the wife tended to be the level headed one that was always there and always right. Was it deliberate? I don't know. But some seem to think so including Allen. He also used cocaine a time or two during filming so....

Well, sorry 'ol Tim got mega-rich playing that dumbshit character, but I've got no time for his bemoaning of some imagined loss of masculinity while he participated.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: Kaos on January 04, 2024, 12:16:05 PM
Well, sorry 'ol Tim got mega-rich playing that dumbshit character, but I've got no time for his bemoaning of some imagined loss of masculinity while he participated.

Key word. 

It isn't "imagined."   It's real.
Title: Re: Commercial insanity
Post by: GH2001 on January 04, 2024, 12:17:53 PM
Key word. 

It isn't "imagined."   It's real.

I give ole Timmy the benefit of the doubt here too....he worked with the writers, he did all the run throughs and read outs , he was behind the scenes. If hes had an epiphany of sorts that "it all makes sense now", I'll take his word for it. But I do think it makes sense looking back on it. Even though I enjoyed the show.