Misguided? Really??? Seriously???????

[CCTAU]

Why can't "you people" keep it in your closet?  It was so much nicer back when people kept their sexuality to themselves.  Now, "you people" have to announce it, advertise it, stick it in everyone's faces and force them to accept it.  Has it ever occurred to you that we don't care?

I care! I have a three step plan that includes amnesty....eventually.


See previous posts for plan details.

[Token]

I care! I have a three step plan that includes amnesty....eventually.


See previous posts for plan details.

[GarMan]

I can't stand that people express themselves!  RABBLE RABBLE! 

Just keep it to yourself...  Your "conquests" are no concern of mine. 

[GarMan]

May 1, 2010 7:00 A.M.

What Arizona Must Live With
Gordon Brown called Gillian Duffy a “bigot,” then got into his limo and drove away. Remind you of anybody?

As I write, I have my papers on me — and not just because I’m in Arizona. I’m an immigrant, and it is a condition of my admission to this great land that I carry documentary proof of my residency status with me at all times and be prepared to produce it to law-enforcement officials, whether on a business trip to Tucson or taking a 20-minute stroll in the woods back at my pad in New Hampshire.

Who would impose such an outrageous Nazi fascist discriminatory law?

Er, well, that would be Franklin Roosevelt.

But don’t let the fine print of the New Deal prevent you from going into full-scale meltdown. “Boycott Arizona-stan!” urges MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann, surely a trifle Islamophobically. What has some blameless Central Asian basket case done to deserve being compared to a hellhole like Phoenix?

Boycott Arizona Iced Tea, jests Travis Nichols of Chicago. It is “the drink of fascists.” Just as regular tea is the drink of racists, according to Newsweek’s in-depth and apparently non-satirical poll analysis of anti-Obama protests. At San Francisco’s City Hall, where bottled water is banned as the drink of climate denialists, Mayor Gavin Newsom is boycotting for real: All official visits to Arizona have been canceled indefinitely. You couldn’t get sanctions like these imposed at the U.N. Security Council, but then, unlike Arizona, Iran is not a universally reviled pariah.

Will a full-scale economic embargo devastate the Copper State? Who knows? It’s not clear to me what San Francisco imports from Arizona. Chaps? But, at any rate, like the bottled-water ban, it sends a strong signal that this kind of hate will not be tolerated.

The same day that Mayor Newsom took his bold stand, I saw a phalanx of police officers doing the full Robocop — black body armor, helmets, and visors — as they marched down the street. Goosestepping? No, it’s actually quite hard to goosestep in those steel-reinforced kneepads. So just regular marching. Naturally, I assumed they were Arizona state troopers performing a routine traffic stop. In fact, they were the police department of Quincy, Ill., facing down a group of genial tea-party grandmas in sun hats and American-flag T-shirts. They were acting at the behest of President Obama’s Secret Service, who rightly recognized a polite knot of citizens singing “God Bless America” as a clear and present danger to the republic.

If I were a member of the Quincy PD, I’d wear a full-face visor, too, because I wouldn’t be able to look myself in the mirror. It’s a tough job making yourself a paramilitary laughingstock.

And yet the coastal frothers denouncing Arizona as the Third Reich or, at best, apartheid South Africa seem entirely relaxed about the ludicrous and embarrassing sight of peaceful protesters being menaced by camp stormtroopers from either a dinner-theater space-opera or uniforms night at Mayor Newsom’s reelection campaign.

Meanwhile, in Britain, a flailing Prime Minister Gordon Brown was on the stump in northern England and met an actual voter, one Gillian Duffy. Alas, she made the mistake of expressing very mild misgivings about immigration. And not the black, brown, and yellow kind, but only the faintly swarthy Balkan blokes from Eastern Europe. And actually, all she said about immigrants was that “you can’t say anything about the immigrants.” The prime minister brushed it aside blandly, made some chit-chat about her grandkids, and got back in his limo, forgetting that he was still miked. “That was a disaster,” he sighed. “Should never have put me with that woman. Whose idea was that . . . ? She’s just this sort of bigoted woman.”

After the broadcast of his “gaffe,” and the sight of Brown slumped with his head in his hands as a radio interviewer replayed the remarks to him, the prime minister found himself going round to Gillian Duffy’s home to abase himself before her. Most of the initial commentary focused on what the incident revealed about Gordon Brown’s character. But the larger point is what it says about the governing elites and their own voters. Mrs. Duffy is a lifelong supporter of Mr. Brown’s Labour party, but she represents the old working class the party no longer has much time for. Travis Nichols may be joking about “the drink of fascists,” but, in the same way as Gavin Newsom and Keith Olbermann, Gordon Brown genuinely believes Gillian Duffy has drunk deeply from the drink of bigots for so much as raising the subject of immigration. How dare she! Ungrateful bigot!

Gillian Duffy lives in the world Gordon Brown has created. He, on the other hand, gets into his chauffeured limo and is whisked far away from it.

That’s Arizona. To the coastal commentariat, “undocumented immigrants” are the people who mow your lawn while you’re at work and clean your office while you’re at home. (That, for the benefit of Linda Greenhouse, is the real apartheid: the acceptance of a permanent “undocumented” servant class by far too many “documented” Americans who assuage their guilt by pathetic sentimentalization of immigration.) But in border states, illegal immigration is life and death. I spoke this week to a lady who has a camp of illegals on the edge of her land: She lies awake at night, fearful for her children and alert to strange noises in the yard. President Obama, shooting from his lip, attacked the new law as an offense against “fairness.” Where’s the fairness for this woman’s family? Because her home is in Arizona rather than Hyde Park, Chicago, she’s just supposed to get used to living under siege? Like Gillian Duffy in northern England, this lady has to live there, while the political class that created this situation climbs back into the limo and gets driven far away.

Almost every claim made for the benefits of mass immigration is false. Europeans were told that they needed immigrants to help prop up their otherwise unaffordable social entitlements: In reality, Turks in Germany have three times the rate of welfare dependency as ethnic Germans, and their average retirement age is 50. Two-thirds of French imams are on the dole.

But wait: What about the broader economic benefits? The World Bank calculated that if rich countries increased their workforce by a mere 3 percent through admitting an extra 14 million people from developing countries, it would benefit the populations of those rich countries by $139 billion. Wow!

As Christopher Caldwell points out in his book Reflections on the Revolution in Europe, “The aggregate gross domestic product of the advanced economies for the year 2008 is estimated by the International Monetary Fund at close to $40 trillion.” So an extra $139 billion works out to a spectacular 0.35 percent. Caldwell compares the World Bank argument to Austin Powers’s nemesis, Dr. Evil, holding the world hostage for one million dollars! “Sacrificing 0.0035 of your economy would be a pittance to pay for starting to get your country back.” A dependence on mass immigration is not a gold-mine or an opportunity to flaunt your multicultural bona fides, but a structural weakness, and should be addressed as such.

The majority of Arizona’s schoolchildren are already Hispanic. So, even if you sealed the border today, the state’s future is as a Hispanic society; that’s a given. Maybe it’ll all work out swell. The citizenry never voted for it, but they got it anyway. Because all the smart guys in the limos bemoaning the bigots knew what was best for them.

— Mark Steyn, a National Review columnist, is author of America Alone. © 2010 Mark Steyn.

[GarMan]

With respect to "racial profiling" discussed earlier in this thread and the latest news story...

Times Square bomb suspect nabbed at airport
Pakistani-born U.S. citizen was attempting to fly to Dubai from JFK

NBC, msnbc.com and news services
updated 37 minutes ago
NEW YORK - Authorities arrested a U.S. citizen in connection with the failed bombing attempt in New York's Times Square as he tried to leave the country, Attorney General Eric Holder said Tuesday.

Faisal Shahzad, 30, was arrested at 11:45 p.m. ET Monday night by Customs and Border Protection agents as he attempted to board an Emirates airlines flight to Dubai at New York's JFK airport, officials said.

"It is clear that the intent behind this terrorist act was to kill Americans," Holder said.
<snip> 

I was certain that this time, it was going to be a 72 year-old, white woman.  I'm shocked.  I certainly hope that Mr. Shahzad's 4th and 14th Amendment protections weren't violated.  That always seems to be more important than the fact that he tried to kill hundreds, if not thousands, of people. 

[CCTAU]

I find that it is usually one of these evil people:

[GH2001]

With respect to "racial profiling" discussed earlier in this thread and the latest news story...

I was certain that this time, it was going to be a 72 year-old, white woman.  I'm shocked.  I certainly hope that Mr. Shahzad's 4th and 14th Amendment protections weren't violated.  That always seems to be more important than the fact that he tried to kill hundreds, if not thousands, of people. 

Ah now GarMan - lets be nice. He's a human. Maybe he'd prefer some counseling and we can sit around and sing kumbaya. C'mon Mr Terrorist (oooops - man made disaster guy), lets play nice. Yeah - thats it, that'll work.

[GarMan]

Ah now GarMan - lets be nice. He's a human. Maybe he'd prefer some counseling and we can sit around and sing kumbaya. C'mon Mr Terrorist (oooops - man made disaster guy), lets play nice. Yeah - thats it, that'll work.

Yeah, I know...  I need to show some of that "empathy" for those with of a different race, religion, sexuality, nationality, etc...  Even when his religion mandates death to the non-believers of his religion.  Yeah...  That makes a lot of sense. 

[AWK]

Yeah, I know...  I need to show some of that "empathy" for those with of a different race, religion, sexuality, nationality, etc...  Even when his religion mandates death to the non-believers of his religion.  Yeah...  That makes a lot of sense. 

Not everyone that is Muslim is an extremist.  Just like not every Christian is an extremist.  You are painting with a broad brush.

[Snaggletiger]

What ever happened to that Al-Quadar Timothy Machmud McVeigh Muhammed character?

[AUChizad]

What ever happened to that Al-Quadar Timothy Machmud McVeigh Muhammed character?

Or Joseph Achmud Stack Abdulla?

[Iwannaplay]

Or Joseph Achmud Stack Abdulla?

Or Eric Shabazz Rudolph Ali?

[GarMan]

Not everyone that is Muslim is an extremist.  Just like not every Christian is an extremist.  You are painting with a broad brush. 

Nice try...  Well...  No, that was actually a fairly pathetic attempt.  I know, work with and manage several Muslims right now, so your little game accusing me of unreasonable stereotyping doesn't play out.  Although, it's still an amazing coincidence that 95 out of 100 terrorists are Muslim.  Silly biased stats… 

[AUChizad]

Nice try...  Well...  No, that was actually a fairly pathetic attempt.  I know, work with and manage several Muslims right now, so your little game accusing me of unreasonable stereotyping doesn't play out.  Although, it's still an amazing coincidence that 95 out of 100 terrorists are Muslim.  Silly biased stats… 

If you work with several Muslims (as do I), yet they are all mandated by their religion to murder non-believers (not just the radical ones), why haven't they attempted to murder you yet?

[GarMan]

If you work with several Muslims (as do I), yet they are all mandated by their religion to murder non-believers (not just the radical ones), why haven't they attempted to murder you yet? 

Again, you're just stretching in an attempt to paint me as a racist.  I never said "all".  That's just your silly fabrication.  Many in the US have become "Westernized" or "Americanized", and some pay the price for it...
http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2010-03-31/news/honor-thy-father-muslim-honor-killing-in-phoenix-arizona/

[AWK]

Again, you're just stretching in an attempt to paint me as a racist.  I never said "all".  That's just your silly fabrication.  Many in the US have become "Westernized" or "Americanized", and some pay the price for it...
http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2010-03-31/news/honor-thy-father-muslim-honor-killing-in-phoenix-arizona/

You implied all, but I guess if you never said it...

[GarMan]

You implied all, but I guess if you never said it...  

There's no implication or guess, so put your paintbrush down and pay attention to the words for a change.  

[AWK]

There's no implication or guess, so put your paintbrush down and pay attention to the words for a change.  

I pay attention to words, a good example would be the names mentioned above.  All of which were names of white gentlemen, non-muslims, who committed terrorist attacks. 

Also,

Even when his religion mandates death to the non-believers of his religion.

You weren't inferring anything to the Muslim religion and there members...right.
 
But it's cool, carry on.

[GarMan]

I pay attention to words, a good example would be the names mentioned above.  All of which were names of white gentlemen, non-muslims, who committed terrorist attacks. 

You'll find nuts and freaks from all walks of life, but there's nothing wrong with identifying the extremist Muslims as a risk to Western Civilization.  Call it what you will.  It is what it is... 

Also,

You weren't inferring anything to the Muslim religion and there members...right.
 
But it's cool, carry on. 

Just the extreme nutjobs...  You know who they are, and there's nothing wrong with identifying them. 

[GarMan]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/05/blame-the-white-man/

EDITORIAL: Blame the white man
Leftist racial profiling was thwarted again by reality

By THE WASHINGTON TIMES

There was no joy in liberal land when the prime suspect in the Times Square bomb plot turned out to be a Pakistani-American. The right-wing terrorist boogeyman vanished. Leftist racial and ethnic profiling failed again.

The widely distributed videotape of a lighter-complected suspect near the attack scene - almost universally reported as a "white man" - raised expectations in some quarters that this could be the work of right-wing extremists, maybe even - oh dare it be hoped? - a Tea Party Republican.

The right-wing bomber story line quickly established itself in the meme stream. New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, prompted by CBS News reader Katie Couric, speculated that the culprit was "homegrown, maybe a mentally deranged person or someone with a political agenda that doesn't like the health care bill or something." MSNBC's Chris Matthews and NBC News "terrorist analyst" Roger W. Cressey dwelt long on the idea of the bomber being someone with a "right-wing" agenda. Geraldo Rivera seemed fixated on the idea that the bomber was a "white man." Similar unsubstantiated musings and outright accusations were rife in the liberal blogosphere.

But then a suspect was apprehended on a Dubai-bound airplane, and his name was Faisal Shahzad. Talk about an inconvenient truth. It would be nice if this were just another opportunity to mock the haplessness of those liberals who are so captive to their agenda that they subordinate reality to their warped worldview. Delusions like this, however, place the country in danger.

Whether officials will admit it or not, the United States is at war with a loosely organized sect of Islamic extremists who are attempting to disrupt U.S. interests abroad and create mayhem here at home. Muslim extremists should be considered the default culprits in every random act of terrorism unless compelling evidence exists to the contrary. It's possible that terrorists could be motivated by other orientations - witness Andrew Joseph Stack, who flew a small plane into the Internal Revenue Service offices in Austin, Texas, in February - but such incidents are outliers and, as in the Stack case, tend to be isolated.

The Times Square bombing attempt was the kind of terror attack in which al Qaeda, the Taliban and their cohorts are well-schooled, and it's reasonable to assume this was not an isolated incident, given Mr. Shahzad's recent travels to the Pakistani frontier. This was an attack either directly ordered or inspired by our enemies; it was part of their unfolding war plan against the United States. As in the Christmas Day underwear bombing attempt, we are lucky it failed.

Blaming the white American man is an ingrained habit, driven by political correctness and unapologetic biases. This is the same knee-jerk response that occurred over the October 2002 D.C. snipers. The prevailing view at the time was that the perpetrator was some kind of white, male, veteran, right-wing, religious nut. Commentators, self-appointed terrorism experts and security officials discussed the profile as though it were incontestable. When the shooters turned out to be two black males under the spell of radical Islam who virtually worshipped Osama bin Laden, the narrative collapsed. But the damage was done; shooters John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo passed a police checkpoint during their killing spree, perhaps because they didn't fit the prevailing profile.

Those who style themselves as the intellectual class are so captive to hatred for a particular kind of American citizen that they immediately and without evidence ascribe acts of violence to them. These liberals should reflect on the fact that they've become the most bigoted people in America.  

Pardon me...
 

<Clearing my throat...>
- AMEN