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Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate

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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2010, 01:21:07 PM »
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2010, 01:30:37 PM »
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2010, 02:02:40 PM »
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2010, 02:09:36 PM »
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2010, 02:11:22 PM »
This is all theory, but I think during election times, when there are more questions, it probably becomes more accurate. (not saying mine isn't accurate, just saying it makes sense that the more that's fed into it, the more information it has to evaluate and plot).
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2010, 02:17:52 PM »
And, me.

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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2010, 02:27:09 PM »
Maybe we should have a thread pinned at the top of the SGA forum with a link to the quiz, and everyone that wants can take the quiz and post their chart (?).
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2010, 02:50:25 PM »
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2010, 03:41:29 PM »
And, me.


So essentially, one spot to the left of me fiscally and the exact same socially.

Interesting.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2010, 04:18:22 PM »
I think this mapping is flawed:





I've never thought of myself as a "Populist Leaning Conservative"

Anyway, interesting little political widget!  Thanks for posting the link to it jadennis.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2010, 04:28:53 PM »
I've been reading about Rand Paul. I admit that I did not know much about him until he was mentioned in this thread.

This is the guy.


Senate in 2010 & President in 2012.

I'm afraid Republicans will arrogantly pick another Sarah Palin-esque base motivator, who will alienate the middle.


Remember you heard it from the Tarheel first.  I might have to remind you of that when you vote for him.

 :poke:

Seriously, I like the guy too; he's a fresh face with some interesting ideas.

I think that the Republicans may have learned their lesson (at least for the next few years anyway). 

IF they can just keep the idiotic, bigoted, flat-earth, boring, touchy-feely, provincial, social conservatives like Huckabee from running in the primaries.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2010, 05:06:01 PM »
I think this mapping is flawed:
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It's definitely flawed.  I score the same as McCain AND Romney.  Can't be possible.
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-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2010, 05:22:19 PM »

It's definitely flawed.  I score the same as McCain AND Romney.  Can't be possible.

Yeah, but remember, it's your overall picture.  Their map is derived from far, far more information than the few questions in our quiz.  So they may be completely opposite of you on a few things, but enough like you overall, that they still fall in the same spot on the map.  

Just pretend that Obama was not pro-choice.  That alone wouldn't change his dot from being pegged the left wall of the map.  He's so liberal on so many things, that alone wouldn't make enough difference.

I'm sure it's flawed, especially on the personal quiz.  But I think it's a little closer on the actual candidates.

Check out this link to what part of the grid each person falls into on each issue.  Interesting, but not surprising on most of them. (make sure to scroll up, it loads in the middle of the page)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Candidate_Grid.htm#George_W__Bush
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2010, 05:22:33 PM »
I've never thought of myself as a "Populist Leaning Conservative"
Really?

I have.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2010, 05:28:54 PM »
Really?

I have.


Libertarians are always right.

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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2010, 06:36:07 PM »
Seriously, Huckabee still has traction?  Running this bigoted, neo-Con as a Presidential Candidate in 2012 will be a HUGE mistake in my opinion.  This guy is so far to the right socially so he'll turn-off most independents and his views on Crime are a travesty...

I know it's bad form to quote yourself but I wanted to keep things somewhat in context (and I do it all the time anyway)...this was a comment by a Native Alabamian on HotAir.com...I thought this was great!

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As a native of Alabama I can honestly say this poll doesn’t surprise me—if it was conducted at a covered dish gathering in the Fellowship Hall of the First Baptist Church of (fill in the blank). Huckaphony will NEVER be president. And if the GOP is foolish enough to nominate him they deserve to lose.

Redneck Woman on February 10, 2010

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/09/poll-of-alabama-republicans-huckabee-33-palin-23-romney-12/
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The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2010, 11:46:59 PM »
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As a native of Alabama I can honestly say this poll doesn’t surprise me—if it was conducted at a covered dish gathering in the Fellowship Hall of the First Baptist Church of (fill in the blank). Huckaphony will NEVER be president. And if the GOP is foolish enough to nominate him they deserve to lose.

Redneck Woman on February 10, 2010

Good quote, I was going to mention this earlier.......I think the reason that Huck gets so much support here in AL is for a # of reasons.  Those reasons would be, he is on TV on Sunday's, he is a religious man, he is from the south...etc...etc...etc... Not that there is anything wrong with those reasons for liking someone, but I don't think one should base their vote on those reasons alone. 

Look, I am sure that Huck is a nice guy, I am pretty sure that he is a Godly man, once again nothing wrong with that.  It's just that I want my politicians to think like politicians and not like preachers.  When they do that they start to let the social issues take over the more important things like, national defense, taxes and the economy.

We have already had one Southern Baptist as a Pres and that didn't work out to well for us.  Hell, why repeat history?

In all seriousness, I would almost bet that A LOT of the people polled don't really know where he stands on any issue.  They just know he is from the south, once a preacher and is on TV on Sundays.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2010, 09:40:38 AM »
I've been reading about Rand Paul. I admit that I did not know much about him until he was mentioned in this thread.

This is the guy.

Senate in 2010 & President in 2012.

I'm afraid Republicans will arrogantly pick another Sarah Palin-esque base motivator, who will alienate the middle.

Ummm, in the last 4-5 elections we have picked:  Bush (loss), Dole (loss), Bush (win but barely), Bush (again - barely), McCain (zzzzzz - loss).  Hardly hard right conservatives. McCain was dead in the water until he picked Palin. But I also dont think she would be a good Presidential Candidate, but not for your mentioned reason. Palin made that election close. It energized the GOP. McCain was a joke and still is.

Rand Paul - I agree on. He is just like his old man. Love them both.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2010, 01:43:52 PM »
Ummm, in the last 4-5 elections we have picked:  Bush (loss), Dole (loss), Bush (win but barely), Bush (again - barely), McCain (zzzzzz - loss).  Hardly hard right conservatives. McCain was dead in the water until he picked Palin. But I also dont think she would be a good Presidential Candidate, but not for your mentioned reason. Palin made that election close. It energized the GOP. McCain was a joke and still is.

Rand Paul - I agree on. He is just like his old man. Love them both.
Disagree.

Bush is hardly a hard right conservative? Fiscally, maybe not, but that's exactly my point. He was about as socially right wing as you can possibly get, which is what eventually repulsed all but the far right in his corner.

McCain of 2000 was "hardly a hard right conservative", true enough. McCain of 2008, however, was molded by his campaign manager, stupidly in my opinion, to be the Bush replacement. Adding Palin to the ticket solidified this.
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Re: Poll of Alabama Republicans for 2012 Candidate
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2010, 04:19:42 PM »
Disagree.

Bush is hardly a hard right conservative? Fiscally, maybe not, but that's exactly my point. He was about as socially right wing as you can possibly get, which is what eventually repulsed all but the far right in his corner.

McCain of 2000 was "hardly a hard right conservative", true enough. McCain of 2008, however, was molded by his campaign manager, stupidly in my opinion, to be the Bush replacement. Adding Palin to the ticket solidified this.


Lets just face it, McCain of 2008 was a weak candidate; he was all over the place and difficult to define as anything other than another Neo-con at best...but even that was a stretch.  He was liberal on immigration, liberal on carbon tax, liberal on glowbull warming, and liberal on national healthcare.  The introduction of Palin into his campaign did, in fact, energize the hard right (and social conservatives) in the Party who never truly appreciated McCain.  The fiscal conservatives within the Republican Party were also energized by Palin; they never really warmed up to McCain completely because of the spending that he was involved with during the Bush years.  The only positive attributes of McCain to all Republicans is that his foreign policy and defense policy were solidly conservative.

And the only reason that the Republicans got McCain in the first place was due to the damn open primaries; this is what gave him the win.  Rush's "Operation Chaos" was not the only disruption going on during the primary process; ACORN and the other Dem Orcs were disrupting the right too in my opinion; but, of course, the Democratic media only reports on the right.
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-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
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The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson