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KISS diss
« on: January 27, 2010, 06:22:01 PM »
On the face of it, KISS have done more for the cause of rock and roll than any other band on the planet. They wanted to rock and roll all nite to such an extent that they couldn’t even find the time to go to school to learn how to spell the word ‘night’ properly. They believed that God gave rock and roll to us, when in reality he’s only really responsible for Jesus and pestilence. They pledged allegiance to the state of rock and roll, even though rock and roll isn’t even a congressional district, let alone a state. That’s how much KISS love rock and roll.

Everything that the members of KISS have ever done, solo or as a band, has been done with end goal of being inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. Everything. The tongue waggling. The stupid facepaint. The deliberately bad hair. The genuinely harrowing sex tapes. The awful songs that all mentioned rock and roll every three lines. That world’s worst cover version of Firestarter. So they must be pretty arsed off that they were beaten to the punch by Abba and Phil Collins this year.


Yes, ABBA is in.  Chic is in.  The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  KISS, however, is not.  That makes such perfect sense.  Fuckers. 
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Re: KISS diss
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2010, 07:17:07 PM »
On the face of it, KISS have done more for the cause of rock and roll than any other band on the planet. They wanted to rock and roll all nite to such an extent that they couldn’t even find the time to go to school to learn how to spell the word ‘night’ properly. They believed that God gave rock and roll to us, when in reality he’s only really responsible for Jesus and pestilence. They pledged allegiance to the state of rock and roll, even though rock and roll isn’t even a congressional district, let alone a state. That’s how much KISS love rock and roll.

Everything that the members of KISS have ever done, solo or as a band, has been done with end goal of being inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. Everything. The tongue waggling. The stupid facepaint. The deliberately bad hair. The genuinely harrowing sex tapes. The awful songs that all mentioned rock and roll every three lines. That world’s worst cover version of Firestarter. So they must be pretty arsed off that they were beaten to the punch by Abba and Phil Collins this year.


Yes, ABBA is in.  Chic is in.  The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  KISS, however, is not.  That makes such perfect sense.  Fuckers.  

Fuck KISS.
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Re: KISS diss
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2010, 08:58:58 AM »
I like Phil Collins - solo or Genesis - but how exactly is he considered "rock and roll?"

Phil ain't never rocked. Ever!
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2010, 09:42:15 AM »
I like Phil Collins - solo or Genesis - but how exactly is he considered "rock and roll?"

Phil ain't never rocked. Ever!

Only the drum part halfway through "In the Air Tonight".
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Re: KISS diss
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2010, 10:38:09 AM »
On the face of it, KISS have done more for the cause of rock and roll than any other band on the planet. 
 

Sorry but this is about the most absurd thing I have ever heard this side of GreasyBammer saying Pat Dye was bad for Auburn.

Muddy Waters
Chuck Berry (although not a band)
Beatles
Queen
The Doors
Everly Brothers

To me all of these acts really did something different not done before and ushered Rock n Roll fwd into mainstream and got it into the limelight. All were pioneers in one way or another. Kiss - although I think they are a decent enough band and I think Simmons is actually quite a funny guy in real life - didn't do anything spectacular from a musical perspective IMHO.  Show me where they did something that was really just out there or brilliant in regards to a particular time signature or in their lyrics or where they pioneered some new technique (such as what Chuck Berry or George Harrison did).   BUT - with all that said, I think they deserve a place at the table (RnR HOF), I just don't think they are elite.
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Re: KISS diss
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2010, 10:42:01 AM »
I like Phil Collins - solo or Genesis - but how exactly is he considered "rock and roll?"

Phil ain't never rocked. Ever!

Aren't you forgetting Su-su-suuudio?
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Re: KISS diss
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2010, 10:53:20 AM »
Sorry but this is about the most absurd thing I have ever heard this side of GreasyBammer saying Pat Dye was bad for Auburn.

Muddy Waters
Chuck Berry (although not a band)
Beatles
Queen
The Doors
Everly Brothers

To me all of these acts really did something different not done before and ushered Rock n Roll fwd into mainstream and got it into the limelight. All were pioneers in one way or another. Kiss - although I think they are a decent enough band and I think Simmons is actually quite a funny guy in real life - didn't do anything spectacular from a musical perspective IMHO.  Show me where they did something that was really just out there or brilliant in regards to a particular time signature or in their lyrics or where they pioneered some new technique (such as what Chuck Berry or George Harrison did).   BUT - with all that said, I think they deserve a place at the table (RnR HOF), I just don't think they are elite.

More gold records than any American band (except maybe Aerosmith?) says different.

KISS helped create an entirely new genre of rock.  They pioneered stadium rock.  And they brought the world the rock ballad which is now a staple of most hard rock acts.  KISS made the live album a viable vehicle, something that has also become standard fare for most bands.

Were they the most creative? Nope.  They freely admit that they take bits and pieces of things they like from others and make their own versions (Black Diamond evolved from Brown Sugar, for instance).  Are they the most musically talented? Not even close. Greatest songwriters? It is to laugh.

You can't deny the influence the band had on the metal scene, though.  Numerous acts -- some already enshrined in this farcical Hall -- credit KISS as one of their primary influences.  

I guess it depends on what you're looking for.  Will KISS' musical catalog speak to the ages?  Do they have a piece of work that will endure for generations (well, I guess that's already happened)?   They don't have a Hotel California or a Stairway to Heaven in their repertoire, but that's not what they are.  

Does ABBA have any of that?  Donna Summer? Chic? The O'Jays? Brenda Fucking Lee? The Moonglows?  Parliament?  

You see, I have no issue with denying KISS entry on the grounds that they don't meet some high falootin' standard of what rock music should be.  You know, the Dylanites who think that if you mumble some gooble shit it has great societal meaning.  But if you're going to enshrine ABBA? And The Moonglows?  Then you're just being a hypocrite to exclude a band that has sustained itself -- very successfully -- for nearly 40 years playing nothing but rock and roll.  
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2010, 10:59:57 AM »
John Mayer and Dave Mathews will fuck Kiss up.
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Re: KISS diss
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2010, 11:07:27 AM »
More gold records than any American band (except maybe Aerosmith?) says different.

KISS helped create an entirely new genre of rock.  They pioneered stadium rock.  And they brought the world the rock ballad which is now a staple of most hard rock acts.  KISS made the live album a viable vehicle, something that has also become standard fare for most bands.

Were they the most creative? Nope.  They freely admit that they take bits and pieces of things they like from others and make their own versions (Black Diamond evolved from Brown Sugar, for instance).  Are they the most musically talented? Not even close. Greatest songwriters? It is to laugh.

You can't deny the influence the band had on the metal scene, though.  Numerous acts -- some already enshrined in this farcical Hall -- credit KISS as one of their primary influences.  

I guess it depends on what you're looking for.  Will KISS' musical catalog speak to the ages?  Do they have a piece of work that will endure for generations (well, I guess that's already happened)?   They don't have a Hotel California or a Stairway to Heaven in their repertoire, but that's not what they are.  

Does ABBA have any of that?  Donna Summer? Chic? The O'Jays? Brenda phuking Lee? The Moonglows?  Parliament?  

You see, I have no issue with denying KISS entry on the grounds that they don't meet some high falootin' standard of what rock music should be.  You know, the Dylanites who think that if you mumble some gooble poop it has great societal meaning.  But if you're going to enshrine ABBA? And The Moonglows?  Then you're just being a hypocrite to exclude a band that has sustained itself -- very successfully -- for nearly 40 years playing nothing but rock and roll.  

For American acts - yes, but overall, Nada - not even close.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_certification#Artists_with_the_most_certifications_of_Gold.2C_Platinum_and_Multi-Platinum_albums

Beatles have 45, Stones have 42, Aerosmith has 25, Clapton (solo and with Bands) 25....But yeah, I mean 24 is a GREAT. Like I said, I think KISS is deserving of the RnR HOF. Multi levels above Abba. Not only did Abba suck but who considers that Rock n Roll. I guess I just don't consider them as ELITE as you. But hey, different strokes.....you make good arguments.  :thumbsup:


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Led Zep has 19
Pink Floyd has 18
Elvis (not a band) has 82 - most all time
Chicago - 22
E Street Band - 21
AC/DC - 21
The Doors - 19
Queen - 18
The Who - 18
U2 - 16
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Re: KISS diss
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2010, 12:51:41 PM »
You can't deny the influence the band had on the metal scene, though.  Numerous acts -- some already enshrined in this farcical Hall -- credit KISS as one of their primary influences. 

I like KISS, one of my favorites? No.  This statement is spot on.  They were a huge influence in the metal scene.

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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2010, 02:49:55 PM »
John Mayer and Dave Mathews will fuck Kiss up.
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Both will make it into the HOF.
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2010, 03:11:23 PM »
Both will make it into the HOF.

No doubt, since faggishness seems to be the first criteria.
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2010, 03:14:25 PM »
No doubt, since faggishness seems to be the first criteria.

You got a problem with bubblegum tongues?
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