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It was fun while it lasted
« on: August 23, 2017, 07:14:05 PM »
Saw on the twitters that Clint Meyers announced his retirement.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2017, 09:52:24 PM by Pell City Tiger »
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2017, 09:50:00 PM »
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2017, 09:52:51 PM »
This is why we can't have nice things.
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2017, 07:39:12 AM »
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2017, 07:52:32 AM »
I am not happy about this.
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2017, 11:42:48 PM »
So the saga gets sordid.

A player who wasn't good enough to play is cut.  She unleashes hell. A letter to the governor?  Really?

Things to say directly:

1) if Corey was sleeping with players or actually harassing them? He should have been gone. What today passes for "harassment" is, however, asinine. One player claiming she was slapped on the butt after a good play? I'm sorry. There's nothing sexual about that.

2) If Clint was made aware of his son sleeping with a player and tried to cover for him?  He needed to go.  In his defense his son probably lied to him.  He didn't want to believe.  But still. Never a good idea to have kids work for you.

3) If Meredith Jenkins told the players to delete evidence? She's gonna feel the axe. I don't believe it.  I've dealt with Meredith for more than 20 years.  I just don't buy their version.

4) The crucifixion is gauche.  I can guarantee you that every one of those girls joked and played along. In all likelihood Corey had a general idea he was crossing lines but their responses gave him every reason to believe it was cool.  Only AFTER the fact do they come out with knives and the "oh he was a creep anyway" stuff.  It's a variation of the "we didn't want him anyway" reaction.

5) How completely "us" if the thing that gets rid of Jay Jacobs is a freaking softball sex scandal. 
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2017, 01:31:02 AM »
If it gets rid of the lesbian running the AD, I'm all for it.
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2017, 09:40:03 AM »
So the saga gets sordid.

A player who wasn't good enough to play is cut.  She unleashes hell. A letter to the governor?  Really?

Things to say directly:

1) if Corey was sleeping with players or actually harassing them? He should have been gone. What today passes for "harassment" is, however, asinine. One player claiming she was slapped on the butt after a good play? I'm sorry. There's nothing sexual about that.

2) If Clint was made aware of his son sleeping with a player and tried to cover for him?  He needed to go.  In his defense his son probably lied to him.  He didn't want to believe.  But still. Never a good idea to have kids work for you.

3) If Meredith Jenkins told the players to delete evidence? She's gonna feel the axe. I don't believe it.  I've dealt with Meredith for more than 20 years.  I just don't buy their version.

4) The crucifixion is gauche.  I can guarantee you that every one of those girls joked and played along. In all likelihood Corey had a general idea he was crossing lines but their responses gave him every reason to believe it was cool.  Only AFTER the fact do they come out with knives and the "oh he was a creep anyway" stuff.  It's a variation of the "we didn't want him anyway" reaction.

5) How completely "us" if the thing that gets rid of Jay Jacobs is a freaking softball sex scandal.
I read the story yesterday and came away with basically the same opinion as you.

With the benefit of hindsight, smacking a female player's ass was probably a bad idea but I can also see how in the context of a coach-player scenario him not even thinking about it. If it were a dude baseball player it would not be thought twice about and would never have come up as a thing.

As for what apparently actually did him in, it sounds like he was consensually fucking one of the few straight players on the team and the rest of the girls were hatin'. This is a wildly unpopular take, but it's what the facts lead to. I can't for the life of me understand how they are so outraged at their fellow teammate for gettin' some dick.

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It was an act that set the stage for all that was to follow: an emotionally charged postgame confrontation between Fagan and Florida coach Tim Walton, who unwittingly stepped into the Auburn storm; the three-hour March 30 "quarantine" described in Greenberg's letter; the resignation of Corey Myers; and, perhaps most remarkably, the refusal of several members of the team, including Fagan and 2016 All-American Kasey Cooper, to board the bus to Athens in the company of the player who allegedly exchanged text messages with Corey Myers.

"We said that if she gets on, we're staying off," Fagan said. "It was a team decision."

And yeah, I don't know if it's criminal to confiscate someone's cell phone and take pictures of their texts, but it sure as shit is a blatant invasion of privacy and immoral.

Which is about the level of offense I'm willing to assign to Corey Meyers at this point. Apparently, he's married with three kids. So fucking the twenty-something-year-old player you coach is immoral, sure. It's Bobby Petrino on a motorcycle level immoral. Is it illegal? Is it even firable? I don't see how it is. I genuinely don't know the answer to this, but does Title IX bar male teachers and coaches from having consensual relationships with female students/players? I genuinely don't know, but if so I disagree that it should be. Consenting adults can do whatever they damn well please. That said, was it smart on Corey's part? Of course fucking not. Whether it's jealousy over the relationship or the impression that you're showing favortism as a result of said relationship, it's certainly not good for team chemistry, as was clearly demonstrated with this bus debacle.

Anyway, everyone's quick to throw everyone at Auburn under the bus like we were facilitating rape or something, but I have a hard time equating this to a Baylor situation or a Penn State situation or anything close.
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2017, 11:58:55 PM »
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2017, 07:07:22 AM »
:crickets:

Looks like you pretty much nailed it.  Not much else to say.

Besides....

Football.
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2017, 08:01:14 AM »
Looks like you pretty much nailed it.  Not much else to say.

Besides....

Football.

Yep. 

ESPN hoped for shock and awe. 

It got snore and yawn.
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2017, 11:22:50 AM »
Title IX is a pretty big deal.  I'm hearing rumblings that it may be Jacobs downfall.


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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2017, 01:37:49 PM »
Yep. 

ESPN hoped for shock and awe. 

It got snore and yawn.


Ehhhh even that said - and I agree with you - it doesn't take away the fact that Clint tended to turn a blind eye and defend things that he maybe shouldn't have. It's not just godawful penn state terrible. But there isn't total innocence here either. Like most things these days, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2017, 06:26:24 AM »
al.com is gnawing on this story like a starving rat.  Not sure what they hope to accomplish. 

I watched their interview with the girl who started it all. 

My opinion of this entire situation has changed somewhat.  She's a triggered little puffball, pissed off because she wasn't good enough to make the team and got cut.

Her angle here is a free ride.  She wants back on the team, but not under the coach who didn't want her. 

Regardless how this turns out in regard to Meyers, Jacobs, Jenkins and all I hope we don't let this cancerous distraction come back. 
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2017, 09:30:49 AM »
al.com is gnawing on this story like a starving rat.  Not sure what they hope to accomplish. 

I watched their interview with the girl who started it all. 

My opinion of this entire situation has changed somewhat.  She's a triggered little puffball, pissed off because she wasn't good enough to make the team and got cut.

Her angle here is a free ride.  She wants back on the team, but not under the coach who didn't want her. 

Regardless how this turns out in regard to Meyers, Jacobs, Jenkins and all I hope we don't let this cancerous distraction come back.


Can you imagine AL.com facilitating this highly produced interview for a Bama softball player making these same claims? She'd be rolled up in a Persian rug and thrown off a bridge into the Alabama River before anyone in Tuscaloosa OR AL.com allowed this to happen.

My opinion has remained the same from the first details I heard. Bitches be hatin'.

Seems like at least half the team are calling bullshit.

Rachael Walters:
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Excuse my language, but this is bullshit. Coach is a great man. I am disgusted w/ my former teammates for this. I don't agree.
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Former @AuburnSoftball player accused coaching staff of abusive treatment prior to Clint Myers retirement Wednesday.

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Funny the people talking are the ones that didn't play... 🐸☕️

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Exactly. These people are not in the immediate auburn softball family. They are going off the word of a small amount of auburn players.

Morgan Estell:
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It takes a few people to ruin the reputation of a great school and coach. Clint is an honorable man. hope y'all are happy now.
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Former @AuburnSoftball player accused coaching staff of abusive treatment prior to Clint Myers retirement Wednesday.

This story is just so fucking stupid to me. The girls that stole the phone of the girl getting railed and took screenshots of her private texts are the real victims of this story? Cause they cried while being forced into "quarantine"?

The bitch in the video is basically saying she wants everyone currently employed at Auburn to be fired from the top to the bottom. But would also like to rejoin the team. I guess she would be among the best players available once she's done razing the athletic department to the ground.

Fuck this story. Fuck placating people trying to make a big federal case out if. Fuck the virtue signalling.

Corey maybe shouldn't have been fucking one of his players but it was nobody's business but his, his family's and the consenting adult whom he was railing. Even still his dad made him "resign" prior to that Georgia trip, so what's done is done. Move the fuck on.
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2017, 10:01:56 AM »


Corey maybe shouldn't have been fucking one of his players but it was nobody's business but his, his family's and the consenting adult whom he was railing. Even still his dad made him "resign" prior to that Georgia trip, so what's done is done. Move the fuck on.

I agree with everything you said or posted with the quoted exception. 

Corey violated a policy in place by the university.  There is no maybe...if he wanted some young pussy he needed to head over to Southern Union...then it is "nobody's business but his, his family's and the consenting "adult" whom he was railing. 
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2017, 10:03:59 AM »
Can we have Clint back please?
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2017, 10:25:19 AM »
Okay, can somebody give me a the Reader's Digest version of this whole thing, because honestly, it's chick softball.  I wouldn't normally give any more of a fiddle fuck about it than the Debate team except for the fact that a local girl was probably the best player in America and they were playing for a National Championship. Worth at least keeping up with then. 

I don't know about all the texts and don't care.  Amirong in understanding an assistant corch was playing hide the salami with a player.  It got out and due to that being a University no-no, said corch was fired, forced to resign, agreed to part ways....whatever.  From the little bit I've read, he probably should have been let go (Resigned) a lot sooner than he was.  Or amirong about that?

Is there something more to this scandalous story?   
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2017, 10:41:09 AM »
Okay, can somebody give me a the Reader's Digest version of this whole thing, because honestly, it's chick softball.  I wouldn't normally give any more of a fiddle fuck about it than the Debate team except for the fact that a local girl was probably the best player in America and they were playing for a National Championship. Worth at least keeping up with then. 

I don't know about all the texts and don't care.  Amirong in understanding an assistant corch was playing hide the salami with a player.  It got out and due to that being a University no-no, said corch was fired, forced to resign, agreed to part ways....whatever.  From the little bit I've read, he probably should have been let go (Resigned) a lot sooner than he was.  Or amirong about that?

Is there something more to this scandalous story?   

Timeline:

1) Clint hired.  Brings sons Corey and some other C name with him.   Auburn softball soars! 

2) We good.  Damn good. Recruiting improves. Success!

3) Corey likes attention from younger women

4) Corey takes a "leave of absence" never explained

5) Corey returns to the team. 

6) Pretty widely known that he's either hooking up with or on the verge with some players.

7) Bitches be jealous because he likes her better. She's prettier. 

8) Corey resigns.

9) No talent walk-on gets cut from the team.  Cries a lot.  Wants to come back.  Isn't wanted.

10) No talent cut walk-on decides to burn it down.

11) ESPN and al.com happy to assist in burning.

12) Clint resigns

13) ESPN moves on.  James Creeper, our illustrious al.com beat writer smells Pulitzer and continues the crusade to burn it down.

14) Our dumbass AD makes it worse with his bloviating during and after the fact.

15) We can't have nice things.
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Re: It was fun while it lasted
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2017, 11:35:37 AM »
I agree with everything you said or posted with the quoted exception. 

Corey violated a policy in place by the university.  There is no maybe...if he wanted some young pussy he needed to head over to Southern Union...then it is "nobody's business but his, his family's and the consenting "adult" whom he was railing.
Is it stated university policy? It may be, and fine, I don't necessarily disagree only because of the practical purpose of not fucking with team chemistry. But even still, violating an internal university policy is a far fucking cry from the scandal the media and 90% of fans are trying to make this out to be. And I object to you putting "adult" in scare quotes. She's 22. Enough with the infantilizing twenty somethings. She's practically too old to do porn.
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