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A Little Different Perspective On Marshall

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A Little Different Perspective On Marshall
« on: September 19, 2014, 01:09:04 PM »
From Stewie Mandel with Fox Sports.  Personally, I thought the biggest problem last night was consistently bad reads by NM in the running game.  I've seen comments on here about KSU stunting linebackers and various defensive looks they were giving.  I'll defer to those that know teh X's and O's far better than Corch Snags on that subject.  It just appeared to me that unlike last year, he kept handing off when he clearly had wide open space to run in.  Anywayz....with regard to his football throwing prowess, this piece makes me feel a little better about our QB.  (Sure wanted JJ to get some throws last night)


MANHATTAN, Kan. -- Auburn coach Gus Malzahn and offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee spent the offseason vowing that quarterback Nick Marshall would get to show off what Malzahn deemed an "NFL arm." Last season, the juco transfer barely had time to digest the playbook upon his arrival, so the Tigers relied heavily on Heisman finalist Tre Mason and a powerful rushing attack to reach the BCS National Championship Game.

Earlier this week, Lashlee lamented that he still hadn't had a chance to truly unleash his quarterback, who was suspended for the first half of the season opener against Arkansas and played less than three quarters of the following week's blowout of San Jose State. "We've been able to run the ball effectively, but teams are going to load up," he said. "We know we're going to have to throw the ball efficiently when it comes time to win games."

Fast forward to late Thursday night at Bill Snyder Family Stadium. Holding a 20-14 lead with less than three minutes left, Auburn faced a third and 9 from its own 37. Fail to convert and the Tigers would punt the ball back to the Wildcats and their All-American returner Tyler Lockett, giving their foe one last chance to win.

Instead, Marshall took the snap, made a subtle pump-fake and hit receiver Duke Williams in perfect stride on a slant-and-go that wound up gaining 39 yards. No. 5 Auburn gained its first close win of 2014, and in doing so showed that Marshall and the passing game will likely play a much bigger role in this year's potential championship run.

"We knew they [the Wildcats] came here to stop the run," said Tigers receiver Ricardo Louis, "so throwing the ball was the No. 1 thing we had to execute."

Indeed, Snyder's quintessentially sound defense held Auburn to its worst rushing performance of Malzahn's 17-game tenure as head coach, a mere 2.8 yards per carry. It managed a lone field goal for most of the first half and caught several breaks in the form of three missed K-State field goals and three Wildcats turnovers, one of them on an interception off a dropped pass in the end zone by the normally steady Lockett.   
 
But shortly before halftime, Marshall led the Tigers on a nine-play, 75-yard drive in which he never handed off, throwing a 40-yard touchdown to Louis to go up 10-7. He was 3-for-3 on third downs and hit Williams for a 10-yard score on the second half drive that put the Tigers up 17-7.

But Marshall, whose ostensibly modest stat line (17-of-31 for 231 yards, two touchdowns and an interception) suffered in part from several drops by his receivers on downfield throws, made his biggest play when it mattered most. Much like his lethal play-action pop pass against Alabama in last year's Iron Bowl or the famous Miracle at Jordan-Hare tipped bomb against Georgia.

"He has that knack for when the game is on the line," said Malzahn. "He did all last year, and he did it tonight. He helped find a way to help our team to win the game."

It's time to bury for good the misperception that Marshall, the former Georgia defensive back, is a runner who occasionally throws. While his decision-making isn't perfect and his accuracy could be better, the senior has a laser for an arm when his coaches opt to deploy it. And on Thursday he showed just how many strides he's made now having a full season in Malzahn's system.

Case in point, the game-sealing play. By both he and his coordinator's own admissions, Auburn likely couldn't have called it, much less Marshall execute it, a year earlier.

"My confidence level is really high right now," Marshall said. "Last year I probably would have flinched in the pocket, but this year I trust my offensive line. I just stayed in the pocket and delivered the ball."

Marshall had his share of problems in the first half. He threw two passes so low they were easily deflected at the line of scrimmage. One of those turned into an interception.

But after converting just 2-of-7 third downs in the first 30 minutes, the Tigers went 8-of-11 the rest of the way.   
 
"I told them after the game that this was a game that will help us in the future," Malzahn said of his team. "We faced some major adversity tonight and our guys responded well."

Minutes after Thursday's game ended, Lashlee bemoaned all the dropped passes, even pointing to specific spots on the field where they happened. But in the big picture, he wasn't complaining.

"We didn't play great," he said. "But when we needed a drive, needed a play, we made it." Noting his team's penchant for pulling out close victories dating back to last season, Lashlee said, "This is a new team. Our first game on the road, we learned a lot."

One thing he learned: He can count on his quarterback.
 
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Re: A Little Different Perspective On Marshall
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2014, 01:59:48 PM »
I was pleased with Nick's arm, excepting the batted balls. But, who would be happy with their balls getting batted, right?  Touch passes that were impossible last year are doable this season.
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Re: A Little Different Perspective On Marshall
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2014, 02:26:57 PM »
Johnson probably has a better overall touch and can throw the back shoulder stuff and corner fade better; but Nick has a canon to go with that speed to weave in and out of traffic if he finds someone courteous enough to let him in.
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Re: A Little Different Perspective On Marshall
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2014, 03:15:17 PM »
Johnson probably has a better overall touch and can throw the back shoulder stuff and corner fade better; but Nick has a canon to go with that speed to weave in and out of traffic if he finds someone courteous enough to let him in.

So you're saying that he is not forcing himself in there like Jamis Winston
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Re: A Little Different Perspective On Marshall
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2014, 03:31:01 PM »
So you're saying that he is not forcing himself in there like Jamis Winston

Marshall would be like Goodie MOB and Winston would be like Old Dirty Bastard.
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Re: A Little Different Perspective On Marshall
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2014, 01:55:11 PM »
They need to let NM smoke so e before the games. VV could not have pushed a straight pin up NM's ass the first half!

A couple if the dropsies were due to the ball being lasered.

Some act like laser is good! It's only good in certain situations.

A guy wide open down the middle of the field, give it a bit of touch and Duke scores easily.

Play Johnson the first half and I feel we score two bombs.

I like Nick, but when he comes out like that, the night will be bad.

As for the read option, I said when Tre left we would struggle unless NM develops a relationship with one of the backs. He has not. It is stick the ball out and let them run to it while making horrible reads. Tre and Nick looked intimate back there. Now, well let's just say it's not meshing as well. Fix that and the romp again.

It was a shitty game, but we won. And we can fix almost everything, except #3, he broke!
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Re: A Little Different Perspective On Marshall
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2014, 08:41:16 AM »
They need to let NM smoke so e before the games. VV could not have pushed a straight pin up NM's ass the first half!

A couple if the dropsies were due to the ball being lasered.

Some act like laser is good! It's only good in certain situations.

A guy wide open down the middle of the field, give it a bit of touch and Duke scores easily.

Play Johnson the first half and I feel we score two bombs.

I like Nick, but when he comes out like that, the night will be bad.

As for the read option, I said when Tre left we would struggle unless NM develops a relationship with one of the backs. He has not. It is stick the ball out and let them run to it while making horrible reads. Tre and Nick looked intimate back there. Now, well let's just say it's not meshing as well. Fix that and the romp again.

It was a shitty game, but we won. And we can fix almost everything, except #3, he broke!
I'm the some people but only as it applies to NM because I don't want him trying to do what most QBs do before they turn it loose. The only ball he throws with air under it is under thrown while trying to extend a play. JJ throws a much more catchable ball. It's just that I had rather Nick not start experimenting.
Nick has limitations and doesn't throw back shoulder on the fly and no one has yet to mention pre-game warmups where even backups in high school practice that high corner fade.
All that said though, I want him as our QB and hopefully as you say, he and Artis-Payne can develop more trust at the mesh point where defenses can't string Nick out wide by design.
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