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What a Disgusting, Pathetic, Political Ploy
« on: July 29, 2008, 08:54:43 PM »
Democrats have no shame.   :taunt:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25921453

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House apologizes for slavery and Jim Crow
Resolution does not mention reparations; commits to rectifying 'misdeeds'


WASHINGTON - The House on Tuesday issued an unprecedented apology to black Americans for the wrongs committed against them and their ancestors who suffered under slavery and Jim Crow segregation laws.

"Today represents a milestone in our nation's efforts to remedy the ills of our past," said Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, D-Mich., chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus.
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Re: What a Disgusting, Pathetic, Political Ploy
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2008, 10:44:29 PM »
This begs the question:  How long will it take for the issue of reparations to resurface after Obama wins in November? 
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Re: What a Disgusting, Pathetic, Political Ploy
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2008, 02:59:13 AM »
Oh, there will be talk, and it will come and go.  But, they will never do anything.  Nobody's really serious about it... not even the Democrats.   :rofl:
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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Re: What a Disgusting, Pathetic, Political Ploy
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2008, 02:49:07 PM »
Democrats have no shame.   :taunt:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25921453


Actually the U. S. government could have done this 148 years ago and possibly began a process to avert the War Between the States (or at least one of the economic issues that caused it) without nary a shot being fired like so many other nations (including the British Empire which enacted a compensated abolition long before our "Civil War" started...the compensation was for "former" slave owners...not the newly freed slaves) did before the War Criminal (read as Lincoln) signed the so-called "Emancipation Proclamation" freeing slaves only in areas that he nor his government had any control over (namely the un-occupied parts of the Confederacy).

If reparations becomes an issue the Southern States should receive reparations for being raped and pillaged by the U. S. government and Republican carpet-baggers during reconstruction.  Not to mention compensation to the living relatives of former slaveholders who were robbed of their legal property.

And what about the Native Americans!?
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Re: What a Disgusting, Pathetic, Political Ploy
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2008, 02:58:10 PM »
Fletch - "You ever hear of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

Calculus Entropy - "Seems like I heard somthin' bout it but it didn't get much play down here."
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2008, 06:13:00 PM »
I thought that this article was a particularly interesting and enlightening commentary on the "Slavery Apology" by the do nothing (and know nothing) U. S. Congress this week...this is from Michael Medved who holds no punches on this subject at Townhall.com:

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Congress Endorses a Lie About Slavery
Posted by: Michael Medved at 3:54 AM

The much heralded “slavery apology” voted on Tuesday by the House of Representatives is far worse than a meaningless gesture. This illiterate and mendacious resolution also constitutes an assault on history and a vicious anti-American smear.

The problem with the resolution isn’t its condemnation of the institution of slavery or its denunciation of the brutal discrimination of Jim Crow; obviously, the oppression and exploitation of millions of African captives represented a monstrous and indefensible crime against humanity.

The resolution, however, makes a specific point that America bears unique guilt for the enslavement of Africans and suggests that slavery in the United States proved the worst in history, amounting to an unprecedented degradation of its victims.

The resolution (written, in obvious haste, by the fatuous freshman Congressman Steve Cohen of Tennessee) includes the following wildly misleading “whereas” clause as its deeply embarrassing third paragraph:

“Whereas slavery in America resembled no other form of involuntary servitude known in history, as Africans were captured and sold at auction like inanimate objects or animals...”

No reputable historian – no, not one – would agree with this outrageous statement.


The House suggests that slavery in America represents some horrible innovation, achieving incomparable levels of degradation? Actually, slavery in the United States strongly resembled all the most common forms of involuntary servitude that have constituted a universal human institution since the beginnings of recorded history. Yale professor David Brion Davis (author of the magisterial and definitive book Inhuman Bondage: The Rise and Fall of Slavery in the New World) suggests that in its very essence, slavery treats its victims like animals. In fact, the practice of enslaving humans began in the mists of pre-history at the same time as the domestication of beasts and pointedly used some of the same cruel techniques to secure unquestioning obedience from man as well as animal.

Davis writes of the hideous abuse of slaves by the Brazilian tribe, the Tupinamba, long before first contact with the Europeans: “It is crucial to realize that such slaves were being treated essentially as animals, a fact symbolized by their ritualistic slaughter and the final cannibal feast. This behavior dramatizes the point that, wholly apart from later economic functions, slaves from the very beginning were perceived as dehumanized humans – humans deprived of precisely those traits and faculties that are prerequisites for human dignity, respect and honor.”

Even among the famously civilized Greeks (more than two-thousand years before the emergence of the United States) Aristotle said the ox was the poor man’s slave and Xenophon “compared the teaching of slaves, unlike that of free workers, with the training of wild animals.”

None of this absolves from guilt the United States (or the British colonies that preceded independence): the institution of slavery wrecked the lives of millions. But the out-of context consideration of that guilt amounts to an irresponsible distortion of its essential nature and its extent. Of the estimated eleven to thirteen million human beings kidnapped from Africa and brought to the New World in the 400 years of the trans-Atlantic slave trade, less than 5% of them went to the British colonies in mainland North America. In other words, some nineteen out of twenty slaves were shipped to the West Indies and Latin America, not to the future United States.

The idea that the House of Representatives now officially endorses the claim that “slavery in America resembled no other form of involuntary servitude in history” is an embarrassment—one more shameful demonstration that preening politicians are willing to assault history, the truth, and even their own country in their mad, headlong pre-adjournment rush to serve the stern gods of brain-dead, America-hating political correctness.

The link:

http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/0fb4f49c-606b-4a92-9ebe-48f1ed7e9cb3
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The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Re: What a Disgusting, Pathetic, Political Ploy
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2008, 08:13:10 AM »
Well you know it is all about revising history.  Not learning from it.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."