Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January

[AUTiger1]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc-morning_joe/#50480658

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/01/Is-This-Most-Insane-NRA-Ad-Ever-Yes-Yes-Definitely-Yes?mbid=social_retweet

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/01/16/nra-video-calls-obama-a-hypocrite/

http://www.eurweb.com/2013/01/nra-drags-obamas-kids-into-new-gun-ad-watch/

People are acting like this ad directly threatened to kill the Presidents' children. THAT would be fucked up. It's simply pointing out that in the United States, our ruler does not get privileges that the rest of us don't. Specifically armed protection. It's explicitly stated in the constitution. In the Bill of Rights.

Why is this so hard to understand? It's truly maddening to see so many people who so adamantly demand that their freedoms be stripped away...

Maddening, yes.  Shocking, no.  People are fucking morons Chizad.  People are willing to give up a little freedom to feel protected.  After a while you have no freedom left. 

[AUChizad]

So we're now legislating to prevent an anecdotal incident where a semi-automatic weapon that complied with the current CO assault ban, purchased legally after passing a background check, by enforcing background checks and banning assault weapons?

That's pure insanity to think that is $100Million well spent.

[Tarheel]

So we're now legislating to prevent an anecdotal incident where a semi-automatic weapon that complied with the current CO assault ban, purchased legally after passing a background check, by enforcing background checks and banning assault weapons?

That's pure insanity to think that is $100Million well spent.

Another knee-jerk reaction by The Pharaoh and his minions which won't really change anything when it comes to incidents like this. 

I'm really fed up with this imperial Fedgov beyond words. 

And the damn Republicans in the House have gone to sleep.  I thought that I saw House Speaker John Boehner's picture on the back of a milk carton!  Where are they in all of this?

[AWK]

Another knee-jerk reaction by The Pharaoh and his minions which won't really change anything when it comes to incidents like this. 

I'm really fed up with this imperial Fedgov beyond words. 

And the damn Republicans in the House have gone to sleep.  I thought that I saw House Speaker John Boehner's picture on the back of a milk carton!  Where are they in all of this?

Being full of shit politicians, per the usual.

[AUJarhead]

I can't wait for my doctor to ask if I own a weapon when I go in for a flu shot.

[Tarheel]

I can't wait for my doctor to ask if I own a weapon when I go in for a flu shot.

I wouldn't get the flu shot.  And to hell with the doctor asking me about weapons.  Not relevant.  But you know they are going after the 2nd Amendment Right from as many angles as they can.

[AUJarhead]

Totally agree, Tarheel.  If the doctor asks me and I tell him to fuck off, his he going to be required to report me to the government?

[Townhallsavoy]

He signed 23 executive orders.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/01/16/here-are-the-23-executive-orders-on-gun-safety-signed-today-by-the-president/

[Tarheel]

Totally agree, Tarheel.  If the doctor asks me and I tell him to fuck off, his he going to be required to report me to the government?

I really don't know; all I recall is "we have to pass the bill so we can see what's in the bill"; when it comes to Obamacare they will use this legislation to promote their agenda by any means necessary.

I can see the medical aspect of this being the most insidious in that an innocuous blood test can tell a lot of things about you (like what you've been ingesting) and a referral to a psychologist or psychiatrist for whatever reason could be used against you too.  "Hmm...Mr. Tarheel you seem pensive and angry when I asked you about weapons...I'm going to make an appointment for you to see Dr. Jung."

[Townhallsavoy]

I really don't know; all I recall is "we have to pass the bill so we can see what's in the bill"; when it comes to Obamacare they will use this legislation to promote their agenda by any means necessary.

I can see the medical aspect of this being the most insidious in that an innocuous blood test can tell a lot of things about you (like what you've been ingesting) and a referral to a psychologist or psychiatrist for whatever reason could be used against you too.  "Hmm...Mr. Tarheel you seem pensive and angry when I asked you about weapons...I'm going to make an appointment for you to see Dr. Jung."

I just read an article about an Oregon sheriff that said he won't enforce any new gun regulations written by executive orders.  I wonder how many more states and areas will personally go about enforcing their own laws. 

[Snaggletiger]

I really don't know; all I recall is "we have to pass the bill so we can see what's in the bill"; when it comes to Obamacare they will use this legislation to promote their agenda by any means necessary.

I can see the medical aspect of this being the most insidious in that an innocuous blood test can tell a lot of things about you (like what you've been ingesting) and a referral to a psychologist or psychiatrist for whatever reason could be used against you too.  "Hmm...Mr. Tarheel you seem pensive and angry when I asked you about weapons...I'm going to make an appointment for you to see Dr. Jung."

Now, you've just gone overboard with the paranoia.  I've seen nothing in the bill that requires you to see a North Korean doctor.

[Tarheel]

Now, you've just gone overboard with the paranoia.  I've seen nothing in the bill that requires you to see a North Korean doctor.

Perhaps Dr. Freud would be more appropriate for me; "'Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.'"

[dallaswareagle]

I just read an article about an Oregon sheriff that said he won't enforce any new gun regulations written by executive orders.  I wonder how many more states and areas will personally go about enforcing their own laws.

I read that too, I like his reasoning.

http://news.yahoo.com/ore-sheriff-says-wont-enforce-025401639.html     

Our Gov Good hair has added to it.

“The Vice President’s committee was appointed in response to the tragedy at Newtown, but very few of his recommendations have anything to do with what happened there.

“Guns require a finger to pull the trigger. The sad young man who did that in Newtown was clearly haunted by demons and no gun law could have saved the children in Sandy Hook Elementary from his terror.

“There is evil prowling in the world – it shows up in our movies, video games and online fascinations, and finds its way into vulnerable hearts and minds. As a free people, let us choose what kind of people we will be.  Laws, the only redoubt of secularism, will not suffice.  Let us all return to our places of worship and pray for help. Above all, let us pray for our children.

“In fact, the piling on by the political left, and their cohorts in the media, to use the massacre of little children to advance a pre-existing political agenda that would not have saved those children, disgusts me, personally.  The second amendment to the Constitution is a basic right of free people and cannot be nor will it be abridged by the executive power of this or any other president.”
 

[Tarheel]

He signed 23 executive orders.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/01/16/here-are-the-23-executive-orders-on-gun-safety-signed-today-by-the-president/

Seven of those orders relate to healthcare.  I think it's laudable that mental health issues are being addressed.  But my gut tells me that this aspect of The Pharaoh's Edicts will be exploited and abused to the nth degree not for the good that mental health care can do for folk who need it but to push an agenda.

[Townhallsavoy]

Seven of those orders relate to healthcare.  I think it's laudable that mental health issues are being addressed.  But my gut tells me that this aspect of The Pharaoh's Edicts will be exploited and abused to the nth degree not for the good that mental health care can do for folk who need it but to push an agenda.

What happens to executive orders when a president leaves office?  Does the next president have to revoke them all, or are they considered null as soon as his term ends?

[Tarheel]

What happens to executive orders when a president leaves office?  Does the next president have to revoke them all, or are they considered null as soon as his term ends?

It'll be too late to revoke anything.  By then, it will be policy written into the Affordable Healthcare Act; they'll make damn sure of that.

I should add that to my knowledge Obamacare was passed with broad deference to the various agencies and departments that would be involved with it; basically giving them leeway to set policy.

[Townhallsavoy]

New gun laws via executive order could cost up to $4.5 billion. 

[Saniflush]

[Tiger Wench]

Any of y'all want to move out here to Bumfuck, Texas with me, I will make room for like minded folk. (Which leaves BF out...)  Have never been more glad to live out here... even with Governor Himbo.

[dallaswareagle]

Any of y'all want to move out here to Bumfuck, Texas with me, I will make room for like minded folk. (Which leaves BF out...)  Have never been more glad to live out here... even with Governor Himbo.

I love Auburn, Glad I live in Texas.