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Marine gets other than honorable discharge

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Marine gets other than honorable discharge
« on: April 26, 2012, 06:22:46 AM »
I do not know what my Corps is coming to.  Fucking dumbasses.  You give him captain's mast or some other of non-judicial punishment if you really think it was wrong.

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Washington (CNN) -- A Marine who used his Facebook page to criticize President Barack Obama has been discharged, a Marine Corps spokesman said Wednesday.

Sgt. Gary Stein was given an "other-than-honorable" discharge, said Capt. Brian Block, a spokesman for the Marines.

Among other comments posted to his Facebook page, Stein called Obama a liar and suggested he would not follow some orders issued by the president.

An other-than-honorable discharge is given to a Marine who commits a "serious offense" that significantly differs from conduct expected of a Marine, the Corps said.

A statement from the Marines said it approved the findings of a military board, which in March recommended the discharge.

The board found Stein violated rules limiting political conduct by service members.

The Facebook page for Stein's Armed Forces Tea Party had a post Wednesday saying the discharge will be postponed until the results of a medical condition, with which he was diagnosed Monday, are returned and treatment is discussed.

"I have spent the last 9 years honorably serving this great nation and the Corps," Stein wrote on his personal Facebook page. "Even though I will be discharged no one can take the title of Marine away from me. I thank my family and friends for their support and love. Today is just the start of the rest of my life. Semper Fi."

Stein said earlier this month that the case against him was weak, based on personal opinion and not on legal aspects.
Marine has anti-Obama Facebook page

Stein, who is based at Camp Pendleton near San Diego, California, called Obama a liar in a January 26 post to the Armed Forces Tea Party Facebook page. Two days later, he said the president is "the 'Domestic Enemy' our oath speaks about."

Opinion: Marine's Facebook posts on Obama go too far

In a March 4 posting, Stein questioned Obama's birth certificate. Another discussion on the site in March said Stein would refuse to obey orders given by Obama. He later clarified to say he meant illegal orders, which he has explained as orders such as sending the military to Syria without congressional approval.

"The allegations drummed up against me are no more than an agenda by the Marine Corps to use me as an example," Stein previously said in a statement posted to his page. "If I am guilty of anything it would be that I am American, a freedom loving Conservative, hell bent on defending the constitution and preserving Americas greatness."

While the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects the free speech rights of ordinary citizens, a Defense Department rule prohibits service members from engaging in some forms of political activity.

Among the prohibited activities are publishing partisan political articles or serving in an official capacity with a partisan political club.

Stein has said that he carefully followed the Defense Department directive. The Facebook page notes that it does not represent and is not affiliated with the military or government.

Nearly 30,000 people "like" Stein's Armed Forces Tea Party page.

Facebook members responding to news of Stein's discharge Wednesday were largely supportive.

"You've got to be kidding me. OTH's (other-than-honorable discharges) are given to Marines who grossly violate the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice), as in drug use, excessive DUI's, adultery, etc. This is a joke," one wrote.

"So disappointed in the Corps. This is a poor decision," wrote another.

Another Facebook member, however, said Stein's punishment was expected.

"For any of you that thought that he was going to get anything but 'Other than honorable' ... you really dont know jack about the military," he wrote.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2012, 08:54:37 AM »
You have no 1A rights in the military, but that is fucking stupid, especially considering some of the conduct they let go with little or no discipline these days.  I didn't read the entire article, but suspect it was his stating he was going to refuse to follow orders that was the biggie.   Another victim of this generation that thinks you have to put every thing you think or do out there for public consumption just for the attention.   
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Re: Marine gets other than honorable discharge
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2012, 10:42:59 AM »
Wow.

He appears to be a true Marine. This is all PC BS. If it were a liberal or a muslim, this would be litigated.
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Re: Marine gets other than honorable discharge
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2012, 06:35:09 PM »
An OTH is very extreme for this case. This is PC thuggery in its purest form.

These panty waste, uber-liberal fucktards have taken over our military. It's sickening.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2012, 07:12:20 PM »
An OTH is very extreme for this case. This is PC thuggery in its purest form.

These panty waste, uber-liberal fucktards have taken over our military. It's sickening.
Is there any way we can get a like feature on this forum like the bookfaces have?  I would like this post a thousand times if I could.
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Re: Marine gets other than honorable discharge
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2012, 08:54:09 AM »
I work with a former marine.  He once explained to me that when you become part of the Corps, you swear to protect the constitution.  Never do you make the oath to protect the president. 
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2012, 09:47:51 AM »
I work with a former marine.  He once explained to me that when you become part of the Corps, you swear to protect the constitution.  Never do you make the oath to protect the president.


Something about defending it against all enemies foreign and domestic.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2012, 09:49:14 AM »

Something about defending it against all enemies foreign and domestic.

I suppose that would include domestic Muslim enemies as well?
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2012, 09:51:49 AM »
I suppose that would include domestic Muslim enemies as well?


I think it is oblivious to religion.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."