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« Reply #60 on: March 09, 2012, 06:59:57 PM »
If you don't think that alcohol can't be a physical dependence then watch someone go through the DTs with your own eyes in front of you. 




Saw a guy in his 30s seize violently while in alcohol withdrawal.  Seized again 3 days later and died.  I'm sure he was a beta male and it was all in his mind. 
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« Reply #61 on: March 09, 2012, 09:29:08 PM »
The psychological dependance may be more difficult to break, but there's definitely a physical dependance too.  So, is your exposure and knowledge of chemical dependance limited to what you can find on the innnerwebz that supports your preconceived notions, or do you have any real life experience dealing with people who are addicted?

Real life experience with family members...  Heroine...  Alcohol...  Pain killers...  Just to name a few... 
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

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Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

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« Reply #62 on: March 09, 2012, 09:32:33 PM »
Real life experience with family members...  Heroine...  Alcohol...  Pain killers...  Just to name a few...

And you think it's mostly psychological?   
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« Reply #63 on: March 09, 2012, 09:34:22 PM »
If you don't think that alcohol can't be a physical dependence then watch someone go through the DTs with your own eyes in front of you. 

Saw a guy in his 30s seize violently while in alcohol withdrawal.  Seized again 3 days later and died.  I'm sure he was a beta male and it was all in his mind.

We've already covered this boys...  But, thanks for commenting!
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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« Reply #64 on: March 09, 2012, 09:35:59 PM »
And you think it's mostly psychological?

Did I say that?  What is it, selective reading comprehension?
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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« Reply #65 on: March 09, 2012, 09:36:51 PM »
We've already covered this boys...  But, thanks for commenting!

What you believe isn't evidence.   Thanks for playing.
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« Reply #66 on: March 09, 2012, 09:37:33 PM »
Did I say that?  What is it, selective reading comprehension?

yeah, you did, unless you crawfished.
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« Reply #67 on: March 09, 2012, 09:48:57 PM »
yeah, you did, unless you crawfished.
Nah...  It's how you understand it.  That's all.  Alcohol withdrawal symptoms are not always indicative of an addiction.  Chemical dependence, maybe...  Read up on it.
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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« Reply #68 on: March 09, 2012, 09:51:33 PM »
Nah...  It's how you understand it.  That's all.  Alcohol withdrawal symptoms are not always indicative of an addiction.  Chemical dependence, maybe...  Read up on it.
Trust me, I have, maybe you should.
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« Reply #69 on: March 09, 2012, 10:00:16 PM »
Trust me, I have, maybe you should. 
Swinging Richard Weekly prolly isn't a reputable source...  You might consider a health or psychology publication. 
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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« Reply #70 on: March 09, 2012, 10:09:07 PM »
Swinging Richard Weekly prolly isn't a reputable source...  You might consider a health or psychology publication.

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« Reply #71 on: March 10, 2012, 01:39:24 PM »
pffffft 
Last sound you hear before a pubic hair hits the ground... 
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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« Reply #72 on: March 10, 2012, 02:09:43 PM »
Last sound you hear before a pubic hair hits the ground...

Also the sound heard when I dismiss an idiotic argument.
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« Reply #73 on: March 12, 2012, 10:40:34 AM »
Also the sound heard when I dismiss an idiotic argument.

Was reading something on Amy Winehouse recently, that stated her cause of death was physical "detox seizure". It was all in her head.
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« Reply #74 on: March 12, 2012, 10:50:41 AM »
Was reading something on Amy Winehouse recently, that stated her cause of death was physical "detox seizure". It was all in her head.

On a side note Whitney Houston has been sober for over a month now.
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« Reply #75 on: March 12, 2012, 10:57:44 AM »
On a side note Whitney Houston has been sober for over a month now.


Wouldn't it be cool if she and Amy came back as zombies?   
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« Reply #76 on: March 12, 2012, 10:59:26 AM »

Wouldn't it be cool if she and Amy came back as zombies?

What would be different?
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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« Reply #77 on: March 12, 2012, 11:02:35 AM »
What would be different?

Don't tell Wes, but this happens on next week's episode.
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« Reply #78 on: March 12, 2012, 11:18:49 AM »
Was reading something on Amy Winehouse recently, that stated her cause of death was physical "detox seizure". It was all in her head.

Does this disprove any of my statements?  No...  A few of you continue to confuse addiction with withdrawal symptoms and detox.  I can't help your ignorance. 
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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« Reply #79 on: March 12, 2012, 11:28:47 AM »
Does this disprove any of my statements?  No...  A few of you continue to confuse addiction with withdrawal symptoms and detox.  I can't help your ignorance.

Listen here, Sweetcakes.  I thought I was having DT seizures, but the doctor told me it was all in my head.
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My doctor told me I needed to stop masturbating.  I asked him why, and he said, "because I'm trying to examine you."