Teams That Should Be Unranked If Held To Auburn Standard

AUChizad · « **on:** September 10, 2011, 10:27:45 PM »

Texas (Probably really will drop out)
Ohio State
Nebraska

chinook · « **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2011, 10:41:09 PM »

damn you stole my thunder ...just sitting here thinking about starting a similar thread.

definitely agree with ohio state...however the brad thayers of the world would kindly remind you that Toledo was 7 - 1 in conference and went bowling last year despite loosing.

do we pull ahead of Starkville?

djsimp · « **Reply #2 on:** September 10, 2011, 10:43:01 PM »

Auburn should be back in the top 25 this week.

Also. I would think Utah St is better than Toledo.

AUChizad · « **Reply #3 on:** September 10, 2011, 11:08:33 PM »

Almost forgot about Virginia Tech. Maybe South Carolina as well.

Kaos · « **Reply #4 on:** September 10, 2011, 11:55:13 PM »

Utah State put 60 on somebody today I think.

RWS · « **Reply #5 on:** September 11, 2011, 12:07:53 AM »

Quote from: Kaos on September 10, 2011, 11:55:13 PM

Utah State put 60 on somebody today I think.

Weber State from the mighty Big Sky conference.

Kaos · « **Reply #6 on:** September 11, 2011, 12:18:21 AM »

Quote from: RWS on September 11, 2011, 12:07:53 AM

Weber State from the mighty Big Sky conference.

Better than anybody Bama's played. Kent fucking State? Kiss my ass you goat fucking neanderthal.

RWS · « **Reply #7 on:** September 11, 2011, 02:30:06 AM »

Quote from: Kaos on September 11, 2011, 12:18:21 AM

Better than anybody Bama's played. Kent fucking State? Kiss my ass you goat fucking neanderthal.

Weber State > Penn State? Really?

Vandy Vol · « **Reply #8 on:** September 11, 2011, 03:51:25 AM »

Quote from: AUChizad on September 10, 2011, 10:27:45 PM

Texas (Probably really will drop out)
Ohio State
Nebraska

Texas will drop out, Ohio State and Nebraska will not. Nor should they if they are held to the "Auburn standard."

Ohio State barely beat Toledo, but was ranked 15th. Nebraska didn't put up a great performance, but still beat their opponent by 13 and was ranked 10th.

Auburn dropped four spots. Even if both were held to the "Auburn standard," (which Nebraska should not, in my opinion, based upon the margin of victory) neither would drop out of the top 25.

Kaos · « **Reply #9 on:** September 11, 2011, 06:52:35 AM »

Quote from: RWS on September 11, 2011, 02:30:06 AM

Weber State > Penn State? Really?

Yes. Weber makes grills. Penn makes stations. I prefer grills.

Goat fucker.

The Prowler · « **Reply #10 on:** September 11, 2011, 07:46:15 AM »

Quote from: Vandy Vol on September 11, 2011, 03:51:25 AM

Texas will drop out, Ohio State and Nebraska will not. Nor should they if they are held to the "Auburn standard."

Ohio State barely beat Toledo, but was ranked 15th. Nebraska didn't put up a great performance, but still beat their opponent by 13 and was ranked 10th.

Auburn dropped four spots. Even if both were held to the "Auburn standard," (which Nebraska should not, in my opinion, based upon the margin of victory) neither would drop out of the top 25.

I agree UT is probably out with OSU, VT & USCe each dropping a few spots...USCe & OSU more than VT.

Vandy Vol · « **Reply #11 on:** September 11, 2011, 09:24:26 AM »

Quote from: The Prowler on September 11, 2011, 07:46:15 AM

I agree UT is probably out with OSU, VT & USCe each dropping a few spots...USCe & OSU more than VT.

If it were up to me, USCe wouldn't drop more than VT. I give a close win against Georgia (even considering their recent years of relative shittiness) more props than a close win against East Carolina. Especially given the fact that USCe beat East Carolina by a larger margin. They started off slow, but blew them out in the second half, which is something VT failed to do.

I expect to see OSU drop out entirely, VT ranked between 20-25 (probably closer to 20), and USCe ranked 15-20 (probably closer to 20 as well).

dallaswareagle · « **Reply #12 on:** September 11, 2011, 10:51:11 AM »

Quote from: The Prowler on September 11, 2011, 07:46:15 AM

I agree UT is probably out with OSU, VT & USCe each dropping a few spots...USCe & OSU more than VT.

I am willing to bet OSU dosen't drop at all.

Vandy Vol · « **Reply #13 on:** September 11, 2011, 07:46:48 PM »

Looks like South Carolina went up a spot, Virginia Tech went down two, and Ohio State went down two. Texas maintained its spot at 24.

They dropped Mississippi state 9 spots to #25, which helped Texas stay in, as did dropping Penn State out of the top 25.

Further proof that the polls make no sense.

AUChizad · « **Reply #14 on:** September 11, 2011, 08:21:04 PM »

Quote from: Vandy Vol on September 11, 2011, 07:46:48 PM

Looks like South Carolina went up a spot, Virginia Tech went down two, and Ohio State went down two. Texas maintained its spot at 24.

They dropped Mississippi state 9 spots to #25, which helped Texas stay in, as did dropping Penn State out of the top 25.

Further proof that the polls make no sense.

I rest my case, counselor.

Texas is Texas, so they don't move a goddamn spot. That's a textbook example of the bias I'm talking about. Ole Miss was ridiculed for losing to BYU by one point at the very end (as they should have been). Not Texas though. You stay right where you are in the polls Texas. Cause you're the Long-byGod-Horns.

Notice that none of them dropped 4 spots or more. And again, part of my argument is that we should not have been ranked as low as we were to begin with. Any other school coming off a NC would have gotten the benefit of the doubt. As evidenced by historical precedent.

If ECU gave Virginia Tech the fits they did, I wouldn't be surprised to see them struggle similarly with Arizona State next week. Will they drop more than two spots then? I doubt it.

Really and truly there should be no preseason polls because they are composed almost entirely on bias.

Godfather · « **Reply #15 on:** September 11, 2011, 10:22:09 PM »

Hey Chad how do you feel now that the AP has us at 21...and MSU at 25.

What a fuckin joke MSU at #25 and bammer jumps LSU after beating a shitty PSU team. These voters have their heads so far up their asses.

Vandy Vol · « **Reply #16 on:** September 11, 2011, 10:40:14 PM »

Quote from: AUChizad on September 11, 2011, 08:21:04 PM

I rest my case, counselor.

I never stated that the polls were perfect, or that they even made sense. My point of contention with your posts was that they have never heavily relied upon what a team did last season in order to rank them for this season, so expecting them to do so for Auburn is not realistic.

Teams are ranked on the preseason poll based upon a lot of speculation, and then are moved around from there based upon their performance as the season progresses. Now, that movement may not make sense, but again, the main point here was that it's never been based upon last year's performance.

AUChizad · « **Reply #17 on:** September 11, 2011, 10:45:21 PM »

Beyond ridiculous, of course.

Again, no team with a loss at this point should be ranked. Maybe in the 20-25 range if they beat a ranked yeam and barely lostto another ranked team. That doesn't apply to any of the 1-lossers. State beating Memphis, who got smoked by Arkansas State, and losing to an unranked team (us) is barely less impressive than us beating them and coming back from behind to beat Utah State. More impressive than our win last week.

jmar · « **Reply #18 on:** September 12, 2011, 05:34:47 AM »

Michigan has to have some ranked opponents to play with the feel good story running. Plus by the fourth or fifth week Smith, Herbie and other Big Ten honks will prop up some teams that they will need to oppose the W'rines to rationalize it. I think we could take 'em right now maybe 68-65. Roof would put a halt to that shit as everyone knows that defense wins championships.

AUChizad · « **Reply #19 on:** September 12, 2011, 09:33:09 AM »

Call me a homer.

I've been saying it all preseason. I don't see how Auburn is ranked as low as we are, primarily for losing Cam & Nick, while Alabama is considered world-beaters despite losing Greg, Marcel, Mark, & Julio. Haven't seen it in their first two games. Kent State is a fucking joke, and I don't think Penn State is a hell of a lot better. Put it this way Mississippi State was a far superior opponent than Penn State. For that matter, Utah State was a far superior opponent than Kent State.

Point being, yes, Alabama has played pretty solidly, making few mistakes. But I didn't see any jaw-dropping amazing plays. I didn't see an utter blowout. I didn't see this untouchable team the media seems to see. I didn't see much different than I have seen with Auburn so far. A better-than-average SEC team. I have zero doubt that the Iron Bowl will be much more evenly matched than any "expert" is predicting, and at this point, I would give us the edge if I'm being perfectly honest, just because it's at home, and we don't know how to lose close games.

October's going to be rough for us, no doubt. If the polls are based on how they think our final record will be based on our schedule (which is asinine, punishing teams for having a stronger strength of schedule), then I could see a point. Swap schedules with Alabama, and I doubt we're sitting at #3 and they're sitting at #21.