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Miles: Crowton's Schemes too "elaborate"
« on: February 08, 2011, 03:55:32 PM »
Too elaborate for whom, Les?  You or the players?  **snicker**

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Miles: Crowton schemes were too 'elaborate'
Posted on: February 8, 2011 12:59 pm
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

 On paper, it's hard to imagine Maryland landing a better offensive coordinator than they did when Randy Edsall hired old colleague Gary Crowton in January. Crowton was the mastermind behind two of the nation's most explosive offenses of the past 15 years, first at Louisiana Tech and then BYU, and would go on to earn a national championship ring as the coordinator for Les Miles' 2007 LSU team. Speaking in terms of overall resume, only a handful of offensive coaches in the entire country are in Crowton's ballpark.

But if Crowton looks like a big catch for the Terps, it's without noticing the big catch on that resume: his final two years in Baton Rouge, in which his offenses -- despite a bounty of talent (quarterback arguably aside) that would be the envy of nearly any team in the country -- managed to finish dead last and 11th in the SEC in total offense, respectively. Despite Crowton's high-flying history at Tech and BYU, the Tiger passing game was particularly atrocious, finishing 97th in the nation in aerial yardage in 2009 and 107th in 2010.

What went so wrong? Speaking to the press this weekend about what he was looking for out of new coordinator hire Steve Kragthorpe, Miles may have let slip about what he saw as the problem (emphasis added):

"I just felt like [Kragthorpe] could short cut some of the elaborate thought process that was going on ," LSU coach Les Miles said. "I think the reality of it is I need a guy who needs execution. I don't want him to say, 'Boy, that's a good idea.' The 'good idea' that's not executed looks like an ugly play, OK. And so for me, I needed it to be done extremely well."

It doesn't even take much reading between the lines to see that Miles believes Crowton's philosophy got too "elaborate," that he tried to incorporate more "ideas" into the offense than his team could correctly execute.

As Chris Brown at Smart Football pointed out when Crowton was hired at Maryland , the kitchen-sink strategy was nothing new for Crowton. From a 1998 Sports Illustrated profile of record-breaking Tech quarterback Tim Rattay:

Rattay also liked Crowton, the mastermind behind what some people in football call a “global offense” for its anything-goes approach to moving the ball. As a journeyman assistant, Crowton studied under LaVell Edwards, Mike Holmgren and Tom Coughlin , among others, and at Tech he has established his reputation as a formation geek who really likes to chuck the ball. Having run out of numbers with which to label his plays, Crowton, who became head coach in 1996, turned to the heavens for inspiration. “We’ve got formations called Moon, Sun, Stars and Mars,” he says. “Something we did looked like a star, so I called it that."

Sometime between Crowton's early successes and LSU failures, Crowton crossed the line from keeping defenses off-balance with his offense's variety and keeping his own team off-balance and uncertain (a process Brown calls "subtraction by addition"), with Miles's stinging comments the final, don't-let-the-door-hit-you confirmation. That's in no way meant to suggest Crowton can't succeed and succeed in style at Maryland, but it also seems clear that to live up to his full resume's billing, he's going to have to simplify, simplify, simplify. As Miles said: at some point, putting even the best ideas to use is a bad idea.
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Re: Miles: Crowton's Schemes too "elaborate"
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2011, 04:03:30 PM »
Don't know if you can just shrug off the "(quarterback arguably aside)" comment.  LSU has had no continuity at the position for the last couple of years and I have no doubt that made a huge difference.  Jefferson is easily the most talented but Miles or whoever, seemed quick to pull him if things weren't going just right.  Don't know how many watched them against TA&M but Jeffereson was plain scary looking that night. 

And Miles is a winner but he can say the dumbest assed things for someone in that position.
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Re: Miles: Crowton's Schemes too "elaborate"
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2011, 04:09:53 PM »
And Miles is a winner but he can say the dumbest assed things for someone in that position.

Sounds like Bobby Knight during his last 10 years at Indiana.
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Re: Miles: Crowton's Schemes too "elaborate"
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2011, 04:11:02 PM »
Don't know if you can just shrug off the "(quarterback arguably aside)" comment.  LSU has had no continuity at the position for the last couple of years and I have no doubt that made a huge difference.  Jefferson is easily the most talented but Miles or whoever, seemed quick to pull him if things weren't going just right.  Don't know how many watched them against TA&M but Jeffereson was plain scary looking that night.  And Miles is a winner but he can say the dumbest assed things for someone in that position.

He looked ridiculously good in their bowl game against Ga. Tech in 2008, too.  I thought he'd turned the corner and LSU was going to dominate in 2009.   Not so much. 
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Re: Miles: Crowton's Schemes too "elaborate"
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2011, 04:13:48 PM »
He looked ridiculously good in their bowl game against Ga. Tech in 2008, too.  I thought he'd turned the corner and LSU was going to dominate in 2009.   Not so much.

He's Kodi Burns Part Deaux.

Athletic.  Strong arm.  Potentially amazing.  But he's just off with every throw and decision.
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Re: Miles: Crowton's Schemes too "elaborate"
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2011, 04:24:09 PM »
He's Kodi Burns Part Deaux.

Athletic.  Strong arm.  Potentially amazing.  But he's just off with every throw and decision.

Good analogy.  He was their whole offense against AU this year, which wasn't much.  He somehow got the corner several times with his speed, but I was pumped when he decided to throw it.  Way off.
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Re: Miles: Crowton's Schemes too "elaborate"
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2011, 04:48:12 PM »
You cant discount the QB situation.  Miles may be smarter than folks think.  You can try and do too much, and be good at nothing.
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Re: Miles: Crowton's Schemes too "elaborate"
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2011, 04:52:05 PM »
You cant discount the QB situation.  Miles may be smarter than folks think.  You can try and do too much, and be good at nothing.

There is no way you actually think Miles is a smart dude...
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Re: Miles: Crowton's Schemes too "elaborate"
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2011, 05:02:56 PM »
There is no way you actually think Miles is a smart dude...

Karl Childers thinks Les needs a drool-bib.
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Re: Miles: Crowton's Schemes too "elaborate"
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2011, 05:10:24 PM »
There is no way you actually think Miles is a smart dude...
Re-read what I wrote.
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Re: Miles: Crowton's Schemes too "elaborate"
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2011, 06:14:22 PM »
Re-read what I wrote.

I think he is a fucking idiot...so I small step smarter than that would be what?
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Re: Miles: Crowton's Schemes too "elaborate"
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2011, 08:32:10 PM »
I think he is a fucking idiot...so I small step smarter than that would be what?

Smart enough to get rid of an OC that's running a hodgepodge offense, and trying to do more than the practice time and personnel will allow them to run effectively?
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