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NCAA Officially Clears Cam!

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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #100 on: December 01, 2010, 04:30:25 PM »
I've just flipped around the channels and it's almost to the point of ridiculous and flat out hilarious how all the experts and media types from ESPN to Sporting News to Finebum etc. are all trying desperately to save face by insisting it's not over because of this wording or that.  Really?  Why is it not over?  What other issue is there to decide?  The NCAA has investigated and made a ruling.  Cecil Hurt is now on saying that it's "Clear the NCAA is saying (By never saying) that there's an ongoing investigation". 

Really?  Says who?  Where Cam Newton and Auburn are concerned, what the hell else do you have to look into?  Bottom line, all the people who cried foul and wanted to scoop the story of the century now have egg all over their collective faces and are claiming anything to not look like the fucking vultures they are.
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Cam Newton has now been cleared to compete without conditions.
This means that there will be NO VACATION OF WINS, which means IT'S OVER.

Don't get why that's hard for the media to comprehend. Well, really I do, it's everything you just mentioned...
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #101 on: December 01, 2010, 04:31:21 PM »
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #102 on: December 01, 2010, 04:33:45 PM »
All that matters:This means that there will be NO VACATION OF WINS, which means IT'S OVER.

Don't get why that's hard for the media to comprehend. Well, really I do, it's everything you just mentioned...
Also, this.

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The NCAA won't say its case is closed on Newton. However, its statement notes that reinstatement likely occurs "prior to the close of an investigation."
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #103 on: December 01, 2010, 04:35:25 PM »
All that matters:This means that there will be NO VACATION OF WINS, which means IT'S OVER.

Don't get why that's hard for the media to comprehend. Well, really I do, it's everything you just mentioned...

Two reasons why some media/people won't let this story die the way it's wanting to:

1.  They don't want to admit they're wrong, and they don't want to lose credibility.  This goes for super secret internet insiders.

2.  They actually believe the FBI is knocking on Auburn's doors and about to expose Auburn for being involved with McGregor's casino. 
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #104 on: December 01, 2010, 04:36:55 PM »
2.  They actually believe the FBI is knocking on Auburn's doors and about to expose Auburn for being involved with McGregor's casino.
Are there really people outside of BOL that believe that pile of bullshit?
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #105 on: December 01, 2010, 04:42:31 PM »
All that matters:This means that there will be NO VACATION OF WINS, which means IT'S OVER.

Don't get why that's hard for the media to comprehend. Well, really I do, it's everything you just mentioned...
I think the following quotes from the NCAA is everybody's hangup:

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Based on the information available to the reinstatement staff at this time

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Reinstatement decisions are independent of the NCAA enforcement process and typically are made once the facts of the student-athlete’s involvement are determined.

I think the investigation is still ongoing. They're just at the point where they have decided whether Cam was involved or not. The NCAA didn't really comment on the finality of the investigation itself, just the status of Cam's eligibility. Still, I don't think AU has anything to worry about unless they paid him, which I highly doubt. This investigation is probably still ongoing on the MSU end.
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #106 on: December 01, 2010, 04:44:24 PM »
I think the following quotes from the NCAA is everybody's hangup:

I think the investigation is still ongoing. They're just at the point where they have decided whether Cam was involved or not. The NCAA didn't really comment on the finality of the investigation itself, just the status of Cam's eligibility. Still, I don't think AU has anything to worry about unless they paid him, which I highly doubt. This investigation is probably still ongoing on the MSU end.

What the hell else can they say? 

"Well, we investigated and no matter what evidence is ever brought forth in the future, we're closing this case."??

They are leaving the door open as a CYA move.  And, I agree, MSU is just beginning to feel the heat here.
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #107 on: December 01, 2010, 04:44:54 PM »
BWAAAAHAHAHAHA...the "Expert" from Ohio University is on Finebung right now and he's absolutley making a fool of himself.  Just said the NCAA got caught with their pants down because they had no rule concenring soliciting money for a player to play some where.  He said it's speaks volumes that Slive was not at the Iron Bowl, but PF just said....well, he actually hasn't to many games at all this year.  This guy is fucking making a fool of himself.
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #108 on: December 01, 2010, 04:49:17 PM »
What the hell else can they say? 

"Well, we investigated and no matter what evidence is ever brought forth in the future, we're closing this case."??

They are leaving the door open as a CYA move.  And, I agree, MSU is just beginning to feel the heat here.
^Gets it.

"Based on the information available to the reinstatement staff at this time, the future, forever and ever, Amen."
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #109 on: December 01, 2010, 04:49:21 PM »
He's now saying any other school not so high proifile would have suspended their QB immediately.  But the NCAA is so inconsistent in how they handle low/high profile schools. 
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #110 on: December 01, 2010, 04:54:55 PM »
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #111 on: December 01, 2010, 04:56:09 PM »
See your problem is you put the pussy on a pedestal.

Which is as it should be...
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #112 on: December 01, 2010, 04:56:49 PM »
What the hell else can they say? 

"Well, we investigated and no matter what evidence is ever brought forth in the future, we're closing this case."??

They are leaving the door open as a CYA move.  And, I agree, MSU is just beginning to feel the heat here.

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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #113 on: December 01, 2010, 05:11:54 PM »
Cecil Hurt really sounds just that...hurt.  He actually sounds like he's about to cry.
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #114 on: December 01, 2010, 05:50:58 PM »
I think the following quotes from the NCAA is everybody's hangup:

I think the investigation is still ongoing. They're just at the point where they have decided whether Cam was involved or not. The NCAA didn't really comment on the finality of the investigation itself, just the status of Cam's eligibility. Still, I don't think AU has anything to worry about unless they paid him, which I highly doubt. This investigation is probably still ongoing on the MSU end.

I listened to several experts on this today, that are NOT involved.  While the investigation may not be over, 2 things are clear.  They have all the fact currently known, and made this ruling, and it's clear by the ruling Auburn has no culpability in anything...meaning IF any enforcement action were to take place on the currently known facts, they'd be against MSU. 

I maintained this all along...if they couldn't find that money ever changed hands, and that there was no evidence of shopping Cam to Auburn...the NCAA would not punish Auburn either with sanctions, or by ruling Cam ineligible for any games. 

The way this played out confirms what I and others have said...like Tony Barnhart...Auburn is/was supremely confident that Auburn's hands were clean, and that no money ever changed hands...and they knew that cooperation with the NCAA would result in what happened today.  Auburn will NEVER be punished here unless someone uncovers something completely new and unknown to this point, namely that some Auburn booster paid Cam or Cecil.  The only entity that has a worry at this point, is MSU, and I doubt they have much to worry about since they at least gave lip service to reporting this...although it was after Cam went to Auburn...and they've agreed to ban Rogers. 
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #115 on: December 01, 2010, 10:01:05 PM »
It's like you had a videocamera on my life two months ago.
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #116 on: December 02, 2010, 10:25:59 AM »
For those following my facebook drama with this particular bammer, who has an article about how it's not over yet posted on his wall right now...

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Chad: Some links "Not connected to Auburn": http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/feed/2010-11/cam-newton-probe/story/truth-of-the-matter-newton-cleared-of-wrongdoing
http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2010/12/01/stop-whining-ncaa-got-it-right-on-cam-newton-auburn/

Josh: lol
you still crying

Chad: And this one is "connected", but makes another good point
http://auburn.scout.com/2/1027309.html
Just trying to inform you
I didn't post it on your wall

Josh: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sec/2010-12-01-ncaa-newton-eligibility-q-and-a_N.htm
11 months from now, when I hear the NCAA say "this is over and AU is innocent, then i'll change my opinion...until then, not going to happen
fyi, I do appreciate you sending this on a message and not arguing with me so everyone can see it... look I have no problem that you have your own opinion, and I don't mind a good debate, but lets just keep it between you and me and not on each others wall so everyone can see it

Chad: ok
http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/12/01/sec-commissioner-mike-slive-speaks-on-cam-newton-eligibility/
Slive said that he received a final set of established facts in the Newton case on Monday of this week. It was only upon receiving these established facts -- those facts that were agreed to by both the NCAA and Auburn -- that Slive was able to determine whether Newton violated SEC bylaws as well.
FINAL SET
does final not mean last?
there are people hanging on how they want to interperet the NCAA's statements
because the media looks like fools now
Auburn was never under investigation, despite what that article says
only Cam's recruitment at MSU

Josh: look if this is all bs, then I hope every media outlet that smeared Cam's name is sued and out of a job forever...just want to say that
but here is the main point of my opinion and also what the rumors that have been flying around is
2 of AU biggest boosters are in serious trouble for some of the most corrupt indictments i've ever seen in this state... do you agree with that?

Chad: McGregor is Troy's biggest booster too
he's not directly linked to Auburn

Josh: yes he is... but mcgregor is not nearly involved as Lowder

Chad: Lowder has had close to no power at Auburn in over 5 years

Josh: and lowder owns Auburn

Chad: owNED

Josh: he is the lead chairman and head of finance at AU right now
he has a monopoly over Auburn... I think he is the most corrupt modern day gangster in the south
I think that he has put Auburn in a situation that they could not get out of, because of his power and money
and I think Auburn has wanted him away from their program for a LONG time, but they can't get rid of him
I just think Lowder is going to be the downfall, and it is NOT Auburn's fault... I think they had no choice
I've said all along that the NCAA does not have the power, resources or authority to catch lowder and possibly mcgregor... the only way that he is caught is if the FBI finds out anything while they had him under servellence(sp)
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #117 on: December 02, 2010, 10:31:33 AM »
For those following my facebook drama with this particular bammer, who has an article about how it's not over yet posted on his wall right now...

Chad, I think you should point out to this guy that the McGregor rumor was started by two bammers in Huntsville trying to sell books. Also, the only ones reporting this was TMZ.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2010, 10:32:37 AM by djsimp41 »
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #118 on: December 02, 2010, 10:33:32 AM »
For those following my facebook drama with this particular bammer, who has an article about how it's not over yet posted on his wall right now...

Love how all of bammers know so much about Milton and Lowder. If he had half a brain, he'd know Rane owns Auburn now  :thumsup:
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Re: NCAA Officially Clears Cam!
« Reply #119 on: December 02, 2010, 10:35:55 AM »
Love how all of bammers know so much about Milton and Lowder. If he had half a brain, he'd know Rane owns Auburn now  :thumsup:

You're right about that, coach.
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