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Five blind mice... so far
Five members of Saban's staff have bolted Tuscaloosa so far.  That doesn't even count ana-coach-alyst Butchie who was at one point said to be vamoosing.  

Of course Saban has a staff of 1144 members so it's barely a drop in the ocean, but could you imagine the freak out by the state media if that many members of the Auburn staff disappeared?  

They'd be drawing comparisons to the Hindenburg and writing four-part essays on the toxic culture that permeates the team.  

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Five members of Saban's staff have bolted Tuscaloosa so far.  That doesn't even count ana-coach-alyst Butchie who was at one point said to be vamoosing. 

Of course Saban has a staff of 1144 members so it's barely a drop in the ocean, but could you imagine the freak out by the state media if that many members of the Auburn staff disappeared? 

They'd be drawing comparisons to the Hindenburg and writing four-part essays on the toxic culture that permeates the team. 
I wouldn't doubt it if Saban retires sometime soon.
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Does this mean they will have more travelling buses for the players than coaches now?
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Does this mean they will have more travelling buses for the players than coaches now?
Coaches take limos. 
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That's because Saban's coaches leave for better positions, Auburn's coaches leave for lateral moves or to become tractor trailer salesman.
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That's because Saban's coaches leave for better positions, Auburn's coaches leave for lateral moves or to become tractor trailer salesman.
I don't think he sold them. I think he just told then where to go. Its not his fault they didn't go in the right direction.
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2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
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4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
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Alex wonders about your question Kaos.  Watch yourself on some stairs Alex.


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Alabama coaching departures have Nick Saban seeking answers


By Alex Scarborough
ESPN Staff Writer

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- Alabama's annual game of musical chairs took place again on Friday morning, when a row of empty, leather-bound seats were filled by standouts Quinnen Williams, Jonah Williams and Josh Jacobs as they prepared to announce they would be leaving school early to enter the NFL draft. Right as the trio made their decisions public, Irv Smith Jr. wrote on Twitter that he, too, would be opting to turn pro rather than return for his senior season.

But beyond those chairs containing the departing stars of the Alabama offense and defense, beyond the walls of the Naylor Stone Media Suite and down the hallway behind it, was where the real action was taking place. Because if Nick Saban bothered to open any of the doors to his assistant coaches' offices that day, he would have seen a lot of empty desks and a lot of unanswered questions staring back at him.

Players leaving early for the NFL is nothing new. In fact, it's sort of a badge of honor for a program with more than its fair share of the country's top talent. But the mass exodus of assistant coaches that began almost immediately after Alabama's loss to Clemson in the College Football Playoff National Championship Game was different.

A year earlier, the shake-up on Alabama's staff was seen as Saban cleaning house of his own accord. This felt more like his assistants fleeing the premises.
Not only had offensive coordinator Mike Locksley left to become the head coach at Maryland, as expected, but offensive line coach Brent Key left for the same position at Georgia Tech, which was at best a lateral move. Then, co-offensive coordinator and receivers coach Josh Gattis left to become the OC at Michigan, which is a step up but not exactly a leap, either. And mere minutes after the trio of underclassmen wrapped up their news conference, it was announced that Dan Enos, the current quarterbacks coach and Locksley's presumptive replacement, would be off to Miami to become the offensive coordinator under new coach Manny Diaz.

Even then, amid all the upheaval before the weekend, there was the sense that it wasn't over yet. On Sunday, safety Deionte Thompson was a late declaration for the draft, as was linebacker Mack Wilson. There were whispers of more changes coming to the coaching staff, and there were more questions about where longtime quarterback Jalen Hurts would be heading as a graduate transfer, should he choose to take the last train out of Tuscaloosa along with everyone else.

The loss to Clemson was glaring in terms of the flaws it revealed in a program that was previously seen as invincible. But this? This felt more like a sea change. Although no one should be so bold as to declare the Alabama dynasty dead or on life support, no one should ignore the challenges ahead, either.

Saban has weathered many storms, but this offseason will test him and the seemingly unstoppable machine he has built over the past 12 years. Almost every facet of his program will need retooling if Alabama hopes to avenge its lopsided loss to Clemson.

The good news is that the Tide will continue to be loaded with talent, as always. Defensive lineman Raekwon Davis has NFL potential, but he decided to return to Tuscaloosa. Anfernee Jennings may stay with him. Coupled with returning starters Xavier McKinney, Dylan Moses and Patrick Surtain II, there's a strong nucleus any team would love to work with.

The secondary, which returned no starters from 2017 and looked utterly lost at times against Clemson, should improve with experience. But other areas that need as much attention yet have less optimism surrounding them are outside linebacker and defensive end -- specifically the pass-rushers. Although it's true that Alabama would have two nice cornerstones if Jennings comes back and Terrell Lewis returns from knee surgery, it's far from a finished product. Whether it's freshman Eyabi Anoma or another up-and-comer, Saban needs more depth at the position.

On offense, there are fewer glaring personnel issues. Quarterback Tua Tagovailoa and all of his top four wideouts, Jerry Jeudy, Henry Ruggs III, DeVonta Smith and Jaylen Waddle, are coming back, which should make up for the loss of Irv Smith at tight end. And while Jonah Williams and senior Ross Pierschbacher won't be easily replaced on the offensive line, there are returning starters such as Alex Leatherwood and Jedrick Wills Jr. to lean on.

And as always, the Tide will reload through recruiting; they welcome in the nation's No. 1 class, highlighted by 28 ESPN 300 prospects.
But with so few returning offensive assistant coaches, the direction of the offense in general is a serious question.

If you're looking for a silver lining in Enos' departure, it's this: For as well-regarded a playcaller and developer of talent that he is, he has never run the style of offense Locksley did. And fitting a pro-style playcaller with a spread call sheet -- as we saw with Brian Daboll a year earlier -- can have its issues. Wherever Saban goes next for his offensive coordinator, he would do well to look for someone adept at using multiple receivers and the run-pass option game.

Late Saturday, ESPN's Dianna Russini and Chris Low reported that Steve Sarkisian would return to Alabama as offensive coordinator after two underwhelming seasons in the pros with the Atlanta Falcons. His relationship with Tagovailoa is strong from the recruiting trail, but his swift exit after coaching -- and losing -- his one game as the Tide's OC in 2017 has many fans nervous about next season.

But whomever Saban chose, it wouldn't be the same. Almost the entire offensive staff will be filled with new faces when spring practice starts, and that's to say nothing of the speculation surrounding the defense.

The ship isn't sinking. Alabama won't be left without a seat when the music stops. But these are turbulent times, and it's worth paying attention to how Saban handles the months ahead.

Replacing stars such as Quinnen Williams is one thing. Overhauling a coaching staff for the second straight season and recovering from the beatdown the Tide suffered in the national title game is something altogether different.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25755578/alabama-coaching-departures-nick-saban-seeking-answers

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The Jacobs kid might be the most successful of the group. He is slippery and can hold up to the punishment. He scared me more than any other back they had. And he plays with a chip.
Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.


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The Jacobs kid might be the most successful of the group. He is slippery and can hold up to the punishment. He scared me more than any other back they had. And he plays with a chip.
So now they're putting chips in their players to program them?  

I saw where MIT was close to being able to 'Matrix' memory and provide plug and play inserts that would allow people to immediately be able to play the piano, speak a different language, access and erase memories, etc.  But I didn't know they'd already gotten the chip ready that would boost athletic performance.  Cheaters.  

I'd like a memory chip that would give me memories of when I used to live naked with Kate Beckinsale.  
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So now they're putting chips in their players to program them? 

I saw where MIT was close to being able to 'Matrix' memory and provide plug and play inserts that would allow people to immediately be able to play the piano, speak a different language, access and erase memories, etc.  But I didn't know they'd already gotten the chip ready that would boost athletic performance.  Cheaters. 

I'd like a memory chip that would give me memories of when I used to live naked with Kate Beckinsale. 
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« Last Edit: January 17, 2019, 01:07:42 PM by CCTAU »
Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.


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So we are up to seven now?  

Tosh3.2 was "shown the door" and took an NFL job.  

Also Lou Soprano or somebody I don't recall. 

But it's all good.  Everybody who left was asked to leave because they weren't cutting it.  
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So we are up to seven now? 

Tosh3.2 was "shown the door" and took an NFL job. 

Also Lou Soprano or somebody I don't recall.

But it's all good.  Everybody who left was asked to leave because they weren't cutting it. 
Look we have 37 "Analysts" whom have no restrictions, cause I'm Saban.  AIGHT! We just gonna move one up and keep the process going AIGHT!  Next stupid Question.   AIGHT
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Look we have 37 "Analysts" whom have no restrictions, cause I'm Saban.  AIGHT! We just gonna move one up and keep the process going AIGHT!  Next stupid Question.  AIGHT
Ole Butch was all over the sidelines in that last game. Did he recently get a promotion?
Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.


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Ole Butch was all over the sidelines in that last game. Did he recently get a promotion?
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Now I may be an idiot, but there is one thing I am not, sir, and that, sir, is an idiot.


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Ole Butch was all over the sidelines in that last game. Did he recently get a promotion?
Nope
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QB coach and the next bama OC, Dan Enos, left to go to Miami, without telling Saban bye, LMAO.

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"The remaining Crimson Tide staffers and Saban gathered for a meeting last Friday, and several of them knew Enos had accepted an offer from new Miami Hurricanes coach Manny Diaz, per Feldman. Saban, though, was unaware, prompting the coach to ask, 'Where the F#$% is Dan?!?' Bruce Feldman wrote. Enos' office had already been cleared out."
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"Patriotism and popularity are the beaten paths for power and tyranny." Good, no worries about tyranny w/ Trump

"Alabama's Special Teams unit is made up of Special Ed students." - Daniel Tosh

"The HUNH does cause significant Health and Safety issues, Health issues for the opposing fans and Safety issues for the opposing coaches." - AU AD Jay Jacobs


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QB coach and the next bama OC, Dan Enos, left to go to Miami, without telling Saban bye, LMAO.
Cracks beginning to show?   One can hope.
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Deer Antler Juice Man is still there. 

The Moneybags men and women are still there. 

Mark Emmert is still at the NCAA. 

Alabama ain't going no-damn-where. 
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Deer Antler Juice Man is still there.

The Moneybags men and women are still there.

Mark Emmert is still at the NCAA.

Alabama ain't going no-damn-where.
This sums it up nicely.
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