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Title: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: jmar on July 25, 2015, 02:53:57 PM
http://247sports.com/Bolt/IN-REAL-TIME-Chronicling-Auburns-big-recruiting-week-38346015

2017 Athlete Alaric Williams commits Saturday 25th.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: bgreene on July 25, 2015, 08:40:41 PM
He is from here in Southside. Watched him all last year as a soph.  Good kid, If he stays commited to AU he will be a good addition.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: jmar on July 27, 2015, 04:23:25 AM
Add Crestview receiver McClain as a commitment.

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2015/07/receiver_marquis_mcclain_commi.html
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: Buzz Killington on July 27, 2015, 08:51:47 AM
He had a couple of nice late hits there on defense...would have fit in perfectly with the 2014 defense.

On offense, he looks like a combination of Duke and Sammy.  He can run routes, catch the tough ball over the middle or on the corner fade and he appeared to have the speed to beat his man on the go route as well.  Looks like a great pickup imnsho.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 27, 2015, 09:21:57 AM
Let's not sugar coat this.  The kid needs......


 :starz:
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: jmar on July 27, 2015, 10:10:14 AM
He had a couple of nice late hits there on defense...would have fit in perfectly with the 2014 defense.

On offense, he looks like a combination of Duke and Sammy.  He can run routes, catch the tough ball over the middle or on the corner fade and he appeared to have the speed to beat his man on the go route as well.  Looks like a great pickup imnsho.
Then he would make a great pairing with Frost and Matthews. Chase them into the stands and continue the pummeling.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: GH2001 on July 27, 2015, 10:16:22 AM
On offense, he looks like a combination of Duke and Sammy. 

So you are saying he sprints down the field 60 yards, AND actually catches the easy short passes too?
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: jmar on July 27, 2015, 10:24:52 AM
So you are saying he sprints down the field 60 yards, AND actually catches the easy short passes too?
He's a two tool player.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: wesfau2 on July 27, 2015, 11:03:21 AM
Add Crestview receiver McClain as a commitment.

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2015/07/receiver_marquis_mcclain_commi.html

Making it a point to go watch McClain and Stove play this fall.  They'll conveniently be on the field together (on opposite teams, of course) a mere 5 miles from my house.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: WiregrassTiger on July 27, 2015, 11:13:47 AM
Glad to see the ball is rolling again on recruiting. I'm ready so shore up the DT position. That's the biggest area of concern in this class, imo.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: Buzz Killington on July 27, 2015, 11:33:37 AM
So you are saying he sprints down the field 60 yards, AND actually catches the easy short passes too?

Crazy, I know...
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: jmar on July 28, 2015, 09:53:58 AM
Glad to see the ball is rolling again on recruiting. I'm ready so shore up the DT position. That's the biggest area of concern in this class, imo.
Agree about DTs. No experienced depth for latter part of schedule for my liking. No excuse.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: WiregrassTiger on July 28, 2015, 11:21:34 AM
Agree about DTs. No experienced depth for latter part of schedule for my liking. No excuse.
Meanwhile, Bama and thugs load up at DT. Garner is one of the best recruiters in SEC history and thugs end up with Rocker who gets pegged as being a poor recruiter.

I don't get it. I assume we have some good targets. We lost the kid (Williams?) as a flipper a while back, I believe. I think Bama has 3, thugs a few and AU--0.

You want to render Muschamp ineffective right out of the gate? Hit us in the DT position.

I'm not pulling the fire alarm yet. I'm just concerned. And the mowr stars players are disappearing earlier every year. What doesn't make sense is that good DT's could prob come to AU and get into the rotation this year.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: jmar on July 28, 2015, 11:37:09 AM
Meanwhile, Bama and thugs load up at DT. Garner is one of the best recruiters in SEC history and thugs end up with Rocker who gets pegged as being a poor recruiter.

I don't get it. I assume we have some good targets. We lost the kid (Williams?) as a flipper a while back, I believe. I think Bama has 3, thugs a few and AU--0.

You want to render Muschamp ineffective right out of the gate? Hit us in the DT position.

I'm not pulling the fire alarm yet. I'm just concerned. And the mowr stars players are disappearing earlier every year. What doesn't make sense is that good DT's could prob come to AU and get into the rotation this year.
Yup we identied the problem in 2013 and it continues. Think we have three SEC ready inside. Wish we would stop it with the all purpose midgets and start paying some biguns.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: wesfau2 on July 28, 2015, 11:54:01 AM
Yup we identied the problem in 2013 and it continues. Think we have three SEC ready inside. Wish we would stop it with the all purpose midgets and start paying some biguns.

Our DL size:

Ends:
President JR - 6'4" 263
Harrell SR - 6'4" 270
Thornton RFr- 6'5" 228

Bucks/Ends:
Lawson SO - 6'2" 257
Kennion SO - 6'6" 235
Toney SO - 6'1" 243
Cowart FR - 6'4" 280

Tackles:
Adams JR - 6'4" 306
Swain JR - 6'5" 295
Lawrence JR - 6'2" 281
Russell RFr - 6'3" 285
Lambert SR - 6'2" 283
Williams RFr - 6'4" 270


Except for Thornton and Kennion (who can carry much more weight on those long frames), I don't think we're undersized at all.  Especially when we'll only face a handful of true "pound the rock" offenses over the course of the season.

The Bucks are supposed to be hybrid 3-4 linebackers, I believe, with a hand in the dirt.

Seems that our failing has been in technique/execution, not size.  I blame Garner...and expect Muschamp to get that unit un-fudgeed sharpish.  I also think having Lawson and Cowart (presuming he's all he's hyped to be) eating up double-teams will help.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 28, 2015, 12:13:35 PM
Our DL size:

Ends:
President JR - 6'4" 263
Harrell SR - 6'4" 270
Thornton RFr- 6'5" 228

Bucks/Ends:
Lawson SO - 6'2" 257
Kennion SO - 6'6" 235
Toney SO - 6'1" 243
Cowart FR - 6'4" 280

Tackles:
Adams JR - 6'4" 306
Swain JR - 6'5" 295
Lawrence JR - 6'2" 281
Russell RFr - 6'3" 285
Lambert SR - 6'2" 283
Williams RFr - 6'4" 270


Except for Thornton and Kennion (who can carry much more weight on those long frames), I don't think we're undersized at all.  Especially when we'll only face a handful of true "pound the rock" offenses over the course of the season.

The Bucks are supposed to be hybrid 3-4 linebackers, I believe, with a hand in the dirt.

Seems that our failing has been in technique/execution, not size.  I blame Garner...and expect Muschamp to get that unit un-fudgeed sharpish.  I also think having Lawson and Cowart (presuming he's all he's hyped to be) eating up double-teams will help.

Heights and weights make me moist.  You are correct, sir. We are fine with regard to size up front.  And while most of what I read indicates these two should redshirt, even though they have yet to suit up, if we got any kind of surprise contributions from Prince Tiki Wakonokalunogho at 6'8" 250 or Jauntravelosity Johnson at 6'2" 322, it would kick things up a notch.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: jmar on July 28, 2015, 12:36:03 PM
The entire defensive lineup does nothing to add reps to the DT position. Whitey tried every slight of hand tactic known to man by shuffling bodies in the 280 range . But a DE is not a tackle any more than a TE is a wide receiver, me an analyst, !!!-the real Chizad or Snaggle exceptionally funny...and whatnot.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: jmar on July 28, 2015, 12:54:33 PM
Heights and weights make me moist.  You are correct, sir. We are fine with regard to size up front.  And while most of what I read indicates these two should redshirt, even though they have yet to suit up, if we got any kind of surprise contributions from Prince Tiki Wakonokalunogho at 6'8" 250 or Jauntravelosity Johnson at 6'2" 322, it would kick things up a notch.
One is recovering and the other bullied large children last season and neither has seen the likes of a oline like Arky ie.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: GH2001 on July 28, 2015, 12:55:38 PM
Our DL size:

Ends:
President JR - 6'4" 263
Harrell SR - 6'4" 270
Thornton RFr- 6'5" 228

Bucks/Ends:
Lawson SO - 6'2" 257
Kennion SO - 6'6" 235
Toney SO - 6'1" 243
Cowart FR - 6'4" 280

Tackles:
Adams JR - 6'4" 306
Swain JR - 6'5" 295
Lawrence JR - 6'2" 281
Russell RFr - 6'3" 285
Lambert SR - 6'2" 283
Williams RFr - 6'4" 270


Except for Thornton and Kennion (who can carry much more weight on those long frames), I don't think we're undersized at all.  Especially when we'll only face a handful of true "pound the rock" offenses over the course of the season.

The Bucks are supposed to be hybrid 3-4 linebackers, I believe, with a hand in the dirt.

Seems that our failing has been in technique/execution, not size.  I blame Garner...and expect Muschamp to get that unit un-fudgeed sharpish.  I also think having Lawson and Cowart (presuming he's all he's hyped to be) eating up double-teams will help.

Cowart's a got danged full growned man animal already. Good heavens.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: djsimp on July 28, 2015, 01:30:31 PM
Its presumed by many in the media realm that Auburn will be pretty solid both on the D-line and LBs. The concern is the depth with the DBs and not necessarily the talent at the starting positions. I'm not concerned at all. I would actually say I am closer to being excited.

As for recruiting, I truly believe what the AU defense produces this year will speak for itself.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: jmar on July 28, 2015, 04:50:48 PM
If you don't think I'm the real Chizad, meet me for a reach around. I'll show you who is real.
Can you reach north of the Magic City?

 :wartim:  :wartim:         Solo      Assisted      Total      Total/game
Jr. DT Adams                27            16          43           3.31
Sr. DT Lambert             12             12         24           2.18           
Jr. DT Lawrence             1              0            1             .25


This is our experience at tackle. Adams and Lambert had significant playing time. That's it!







             
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: Buzz Killington on July 28, 2015, 04:52:54 PM
Can you reach north of the Magic City?

 :wartim:  :wartim:         Solo      Assisted      Total      Total/game
Jr. DT Adams                27            16          43           3.31
Sr. DT Lambert             12             12         24           2.18           
Jr. DT Lawrence             1              0            1             .25


This is our experience at tackle. Adams and Lambert had significant playing time. That's it!







           

Lambert played mostly on the end as well...
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: jmar on July 28, 2015, 05:02:28 PM
Lambert played mostly on the end as well...
Well now I guess we are all set at DT then.
 So where is the REAL trouble area?
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: WiregrassTiger on July 29, 2015, 11:01:47 AM
Down to 2 for this 3* that Garner believes can be a multiple position guy. Still, not a DT out of the gate but could be in time. Battling VT for him.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/07/auburn_target_nick_coe_names_t.html
Nick Coe
Defensive end Nick Coe took his first visit to Auburn last weekend. (247Sports)
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on July 27, 2015 at 12:48 PM, updated July 27, 2015 at 2:26 PM

Following his first visit to the Plains last weekend, Nick Coe has named Auburn and Virginia Tech his top two schools.

Prior to releasing the above tweet, the 6-foot-4, 260-pound defensive end from Asheboro, N.C., told 247Sports Auburn is on top.

"They're No. 1," Coe said. "They're great. And they're planning on winning a national championship. They're not too far from it. I talked to some of the coaches about degrees. They'll make sure I get a degree. Make sure I graduate. If I go pro, they'll want me to come back and graduate still."

Coe has developed a solid relationship with Tigers defensive line coach Rodney Garner, who reportedly believes he can play multiple positions on the defensive line.

The three-star prospect has no commitment date set, but has already planned three of his five official visits to Auburn, North Carolina and Virginia Tech.

Coe is the No. 19 strong-side defensive end in the 247Sports Composite and the No. 14 player out of North Carolina. He tallied 70 tackles last season with 19 sacks.

Check out his highlights below.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 29, 2015, 11:07:32 AM
6'4" 260 with another year to play and off season workouts in front of him.  I could easily see DT in his future.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: wesfau2 on July 29, 2015, 03:32:22 PM
Well now I guess we are all set at DT then.
 So where is the REAL trouble area?

Which is it:  should we recruit only size (re: midget recruiting) our should we bitch about experience?   If your gripe is experience, then ongoing recruiting isn't your beef.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: WiregrassTiger on July 29, 2015, 03:57:56 PM
Which is it:  should we recruit only size (re: midget recruiting) our should we bitch about experience?   If your gripe is experience, then ongoing recruiting isn't your beef.
Why did you answer his question with a question?
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 29, 2015, 03:58:36 PM
Size is not a problem.  (That's what she said)  As long as we stay relatively healthy across our front 7, I think this group is going to be pretty dang skippy if Muschamp instills some Fairley style nastiness in em'.  Also, it helps to have a couple of senior linebackers right behind them that go 240 and 253.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 29, 2015, 04:25:41 PM
Just looked at an old sheet roster from a practice last year.  We easily had the biggest overall group of interior linemen we've ever had.

Ben Bradley  303
Jeffrey Whitaker  322
Angelo Blackson  306
Gabe Wright  284
Montravelosity Adams 306

4 of them were seniors.  In a word....suck!  I don't have gooder enough football smarts to have a clue as to why.  Coaching?  Technique?  Not mean enough?  Overrated?  But whether or not we had someone badass coming off the edge, they got their collective shoot pushed in.  In looking at some of the preseason mags and checking out what teams are putting on the field in this conference and around the country, this ain't no small group of guys. 
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: djsimp on July 29, 2015, 06:14:03 PM
But whether or not we had someone badass coming off the edge, they got their collective shoot pushed in. 

This was just it. The collective opinion here is the opposing offenses could focus almost entirely on the interior since Auburn had no real threat on the ends. I think most feel Auburn has that issue fixed up a bit. You add that with a different defensive scheme with WC, I feel we will all see a big difference. Whether or not we get into that top 30 D remains to be see but I am hopeful.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: djsimp on July 29, 2015, 08:01:22 PM
1. Who is this WC you speak of? 2. It has already been clearly explained on here that the defense has to be top 25.

Can you read? TOP 25.

Will Champ...duh
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 29, 2015, 08:03:40 PM
Will Cusschamp
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: jmar on July 29, 2015, 11:24:55 PM
We lack experience and numbers at the core. After Adams our leading returning tackler up front was Gimel President.
Know you have your O & Bs on but you need to realize we have shoot inside if somehow either of our two starters can't go.
I'm just seeing it as it is.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: dallaswareagle on July 30, 2015, 10:29:59 AM
Down to 2 for this 3* that Garner believes can be a multiple position guy. Still, not a DT out of the gate but could be in time. Battling VT for him.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/07/auburn_target_nick_coe_names_t.html
Nick Coe
Defensive end Nick Coe took his first visit to Auburn last weekend. (247Sports)
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on July 27, 2015 at 12:48 PM, updated July 27, 2015 at 2:26 PM

Following his first visit to the Plains last weekend, Nick Coe has named Auburn and Virginia Tech his top two schools.

Prior to releasing the above tweet, the 6-foot-4, 260-pound defensive end from Asheboro, N.C., told 247Sports Auburn is on top.

"They're No. 1," Coe said. "They're great. And they're planning on winning a national championship. They're not too far from it. I talked to some of the coaches about degrees. They'll make sure I get a degree. Make sure I graduate. If I go pro, they'll want me to come back and graduate still."

Coe has developed a solid relationship with Tigers defensive line coach Rodney Garner, who reportedly believes he can play multiple positions on the defensive line.

The three-star prospect has no commitment date set, but has already planned three of his five official visits to Auburn, North Carolina and Virginia Tech.

Coe is the No. 19 strong-side defensive end in the 247Sports Composite and the No. 14 player out of North Carolina. He tallied 70 tackles last season with 19 sacks.

Check out his highlights below.

I kept looking but haven't seen any?   Is this it?

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/-753372725e291ead1_zpspzkvtwvi.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/miked0003/media/-753372725e291ead1_zpspzkvtwvi.jpg.html)
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: jmar on July 30, 2015, 11:37:02 AM
I kept looking but haven't seen any?   Is this it?

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/-753372725e291ead1_zpspzkvtwvi.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/miked0003/media/-753372725e291ead1_zpspzkvtwvi.jpg.html)
I like the stars but just as soon have a kid like this you can motivate that grows into the position without all of the ego stroking such as the guys that allowed Fairley to become such a force.
Muschamp and Garner can probably get more bang for the buck out of the inexperienced inside guys we have on the roster but on paper it's not an area of strength...not by any stretch.
Another area of note:  Who will man the vacated Neiko Thorpe/Trovon Reed position as lockdown corner opposite Jones?
Discuss.
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: WiregrassTiger on July 30, 2015, 11:43:38 AM
We lack experience and numbers at the core. After Adams our leading returning tackler up front was Gimel President.
Know you have your O & Bs on but you need to realize we have shoot inside if somehow either of our two starters can't go.
I'm just seeing it as it is.
What you fail to realize is that we have Will Muschamp, you big dummy. He does have eligibility left, doesn't he?
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: jmar on July 30, 2015, 11:59:31 AM
What you fail to realize is that we have Will Muschamp, you big dummy. He does have eligibility left, doesn't he?
Ah c'mon...he only has to swear loudly, make distorted faces and get them lined up correctly.
Championship!
Title: Re: July Recruiting Weekend
Post by: dallaswareagle on July 30, 2015, 12:22:35 PM
Ah c'mon...he only has to swear loudly, make distorted faces and get them lined up correctly.
Championship!


A little blood wouldn't hurt either.